lowbasso
A Hard Day's Knight
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Post by lowbasso on Nov 20, 2014 13:08:07 GMT -5
I think history proved Paul was right about Allen Klein. I think common sense showed the others were right about not having Paul's family in control of their affairs (although, the investment advice Paul got did turn out well for him). So, there were, what, 3 billion people on the planet at the time, and out of them, they couldn't find management that wasn't either familial or reptilian? JcS I would have done anything to manage them. Timing in our ages wasn't right, and I was on the wrong side of the pond. But if those issues had been resolved, I sure would have tried!
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Post by stavros on Nov 20, 2014 16:00:11 GMT -5
But John was not keeping up with Paul in terms of quantity in 1969. I have written before that John Lennon's 1969 and 1970 output is stronger than people usually give him credit for because Paul had the A-Sides except for TBOJAY and maybe Come Together if that is counted as a double A-Side. I realize the Let It Be album material was recorded in 1969 but it was not released until 1970, including the single "Let It Be" and in the U.S. "The Long And Winding Road." SONGS RELEASED IN 1969 John Hey Bulldog (Recorded 11 February 1968) Don't Let Me Down The Ballad of John and Yoko Come Together I Want You (She's So Heavy) Because Sun King Mean Mr. Mustard Polythene Pam Across The Universe ["Wildlife" Version] Give Peace A Chance Paul
All Together Now (Recorded 12 May 1967) Get Back Maxwell's Silver Hammer Oh! Darling You Never Give Me Your Money She Came In Through The Bathroom Golden Slumbers Carry That Weight The End Her Majesty I think John did pretty well in 1969 with two iconic solo singles to boot(as indicated above) and Side 1 of Live Peace In Toronto. In 1970, count John's LIB album songs, the amazing and iconic single "Instant Karma(We All Shine On)" and his stupendous solo album Plastic Ono Band and 1970 is another amazing year for John Lennon! P.S. I can't get my columns lined up in final as I did in the draft but you get the point. Tried to line up those columns and gave up . I've also left out the 'live' tracks for the same reason. But that's a 'Damn' good post to come back with. Although some of the songs date back prior to 1969 (even their recording dates). Don't forget Paul recorded Come & Get It for Badfinger as well. I think all 4 Beatles decided to work on Abbey Road, make it a masterpiece and forget the bad blood from their winter of discontent. Their stories are all of a more conducive working atmosphere. In fact there are sound bites from the time that still circulate on the web. All the Beatles seem rightly proud of what they'd achieved. Even, the recently deceased (in 1969), Paul McCartney But hey! I don't want to come down too hard on John for his lethargy during the Get Back sessions. He was great on the White Album. I like to listen to that album all in one session, more so than Pepper, to take it all in. But John's mind was drifting away from the Beatles by late 1969 and probably well before. Yes he came back strong on Abbey Road. It is such a pity that there is very little footage of the Beatles from the Summer of '69. But eventually it all fell apart. The 1967 -1969 Beatles' albums still tend to be the best selling ones. This is despite two years with no manager, a crazy cash haemorrhaging business like Apple and the tensions building up within the band. Despite all that they managed to go out on top.I still don't think there are many tracks on the whole Anthology CDs that I'd place above the final versions they recorded. But there are a few.
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Post by joshferrell on Nov 20, 2014 18:35:40 GMT -5
too bad the Beatles didn't get signed up with Colonel Tom Parker that way we would have a bunch of Beatle movies and they would have performed in Vegas.. lol...
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 20, 2014 19:12:38 GMT -5
You have to remember Get Back was as much about Paul wanting the Beatles to play live again, to be a band again, as it was about being the next Beatle project/film. It was supposed to fix the problems they had recording the White Album. He may have thought if they took the Holidays off, they might not ever get back together.
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 21, 2014 11:58:24 GMT -5
SONGS RELEASED IN 1969 John Hey Bulldog (Recorded 11 February 1968) Don't Let Me Down The Ballad of John and Yoko Come Together I Want You (She's So Heavy) Because Sun King Mean Mr. Mustard Polythene Pam Across The Universe ["Wildlife" Version] Give Peace A Chance Paul
All Together Now (Recorded 12 May 1967) Get Back Maxwell's Silver Hammer Oh! Darling You Never Give Me Your Money She Came In Through The Bathroom Golden Slumbers Carry That Weight The End Her Majesty
Tried to line up those columns and gave up . I've also left out the 'live' tracks for the same reason.
But that's a 'Damn' good post to come back with. Although some of the songs date back prior to 1969 (even their recording dates). Don't forget Paul recorded Come & Get It for Badfinger as well.
I think all 4 Beatles decided to work on Abbey Road, make it a masterpiece and forget the bad blood from their winter of discontent. Their stories are all of a more conducive working atmosphere. In fact there are sound bites from the time that still circulate on the web. All the Beatles seem rightly proud of what they'd achieved. Even, the recently deceased (in 1969), Paul McCartney
But hey! I don't want to come down too hard on John for his lethargy during the Get Back sessions. He was great on the White Album. I like to listen to that album all in one session, more so than Pepper, to take it all in. But John's mind was drifting away from the Beatles by late 1969 and probably well before.
Yes he came back strong on Abbey Road. It is such a pity that there is very little footage of the Beatles from the Summer of '69. But eventually it all fell apart. The 1967 -1969 Beatles' albums still tend to be the best selling ones. This is despite two years with no manager, a crazy cash haemorrhaging business like Apple and the tensions building up within the band.
Despite all that they managed to go out on top.I still don't think there are many tracks on the whole Anthology CDs that I'd place above the final versions they recorded. But there are a few.Thanks for trying to line them up! LOL in my draft it looked so nice, John and his songs on the left, Paul and his songs on the right(no political commentary there!). I threw in John's "Hey Bulldog" and Paul's "All Together Now" in 1969 because my source said the YS album came out in January 1969 so I figured that's when the great majority of fans first heard them on record but you are very corect Stavros, they were recorded earlier and I used the same logic for the "Wildlife" version of "Across The Universe" not actually released until early 1969. So a young Beatles' fan in Wanatah, Indiana in early 1969 might exclaim at school, "Fellows, I dig these new Beatles's songs HB and ATN off that crazy new YS movie soundtrack album and I hear the Beatles also have a new song on a compilation album to save endangered animals, groovy man!" But I understand your point Stavros but I just have two missions here in our Beatles' world: 1. Please fans, do not write off John Lennon musically in 1969 and 1970; and 2. Please fans, do not write off Paul McCartney's solo music from 1970 to immediately before BOTR(because everyone already digs BOTR).
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Post by dcshark on Nov 24, 2014 8:12:18 GMT -5
Any rumours on a iTunes 'bootleg' release for recordings from 1964?
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 24, 2014 18:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by stavros on Nov 20, 2015 16:32:21 GMT -5
I am shamelessly bumping this thread again because it was around 20 years ago today....
Yes - Anthology hit our TV screens in mid-November of 1995. We were all so much younger than today.
For whatever reasons Apple chose to go with the "Beatles 1 Video package" as their major Beatles release of 2015. Totally ignoring the 20th anniversary of Anthology. Well except for tweaking the sound to the videos for 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love'.
Perhaps it's still in the pipeline for a re-boot for the 25th anniversary?
Perhaps not?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 20:36:26 GMT -5
I am shamelessly bumping this thread again because it was around 20 years ago today.... Yes - Anthology hit our TV screens in mid-November of 1995. We were all so much younger than today. For whatever reasons Apple chose to go with the "Beatles 1 Video package" as their major Beatles release of 2015. Totally ignoring the 20th anniversary of Anthology. Well except for tweaking the sound to the videos for 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love'. Perhaps it's still in the pipeline for a re-boot for the 25th anniversary? Perhaps not? They might be saving it for after the Let It Be dvd release.
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Post by Panther on Nov 20, 2015 21:13:00 GMT -5
I think Apple (or whatever's left of it, soon -- Dhani Harrison?) will eventually issue a new, different 'Anthology'-style release of rare tracks, outtakes, and so on. Don't expect another 6-CD package, as that's very hard to market nowadays. It'll probably be something like one double-CD, which is probably what Anthology should have been anyway.
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 20, 2015 21:41:20 GMT -5
I am shamelessly bumping this thread again because it was around 20 years ago today.... Yes - Anthology hit our TV screens in mid-November of 1995. We were all so much younger than today. For whatever reasons Apple chose to go with the "Beatles 1 Video package" as their major Beatles release of 2015. Totally ignoring the 20th anniversary of Anthology. Well except for tweaking the sound to the videos for 'Free As A Bird' and 'Real Love'. Perhaps it's still in the pipeline for a re-boot for the 25th anniversary? Perhaps not? They might be saving it for after the Let It Be dvd release. So you're saying more like the 25th century? Here is a new interview with Lindsey-Hogg. He is saying 18 months for Let it Be. I wonder if that is based on anything or just a number he pulled out. www.esquire.com/entertainment/news/a39896/beatles-eric-clapton-last-days/
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 20, 2015 22:02:51 GMT -5
I think Apple (or whatever's left of it, soon -- Dhani Harrison?) will eventually issue a new, different 'Anthology'-style release of rare tracks, outtakes, and so on. Don't expect another 6-CD package, as that's very hard to market nowadays. It'll probably be something like one double-CD, which is probably what Anthology should have been anyway. I had to look. I didn't remember but the three two-disc sets came out very spaced apart. Anthology 1 was released November 20th, 1995, 2 came out March 18, 1996 and 3 on October 28, 1996. But I agree the shorter format would get a better response. A 4 hour documentary would sell better to a network, Netfix, hulu or one of the a la carte platforms that are springing up fairly regular now. Just to support my duplicitous nature, a longer mini-series format might sell better too, maybe twice the length of the original TV release. What would that be 18 hours. It seems like one or two of the nights were 2 hours long. So maybe a 14 hour set, on demand to satisfy the binge viewing that people do so often now. Think Mark Lewisohn. There could maybe even be a tie-in. Oops, if Mark's in, count Apple out. Let's go with The Very Long and Winding Road.
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