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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 16, 2012 7:02:58 GMT -5
And don't get me started on the Frog Song!
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Post by mikev on Jul 16, 2012 7:12:27 GMT -5
With A Little luck - all about his thwarted wishes to take flying lessons and indulge in civil engineering, especially drainage: With a little luck, we can help it out. We can make this whole damn thing work out. - Reference to dam(n) - wish to solve flooding issues. With a little love, we can lay it down. - reference to drainpipes Cant you feel the town exploding? - because of pressure of water from undammed drainpipes There is no end to what we can do together. - other than bring the drain to an end, at the dam There is no end, there is no end. The wiliow turns his back on inclement weather; - because of flooding to his roots due to inadequate drainage And if he can do it, we can do it, just me and you, And a little luck, we can clear it up. - flooding to the runway, clearance necessary prior to: We can bring it in for a landing, - the plane he wants to learn to fly With a little luck, we can turn it on. - the plane's engine (a Cessna, obviously) There can be no misunderstanding. - I just explained! A Cessna! Pay attention! There is no end to what we can do together. - whether flying lessons or rectifying drainage issues (or, best of all, both at the same time) There is no end, there is no end. The willow turns his back on inclement weather; We can do it, just me and you. With a little push, we could set it off. - obviously, you want your plane to start first time, but if there is too much moisture due to inadequate drainage, you might need a push We can send it rocketing skywards. - Cessna, straight up! With a little love, we could shake it up. - you would need to - if you're rocketing skywards, all the fuel would go to the back of the tank, possibly leading to: Don't you feel the comet exploding? - OK, so that's a bit over-poetic for a Cessna. Turn it down a tad, Paul. ;D I still remember that extra bonus Beatles Anthology disc where Paul speaks to the camera while delivering a foal while denying that Pete Best ever existed, then talks from the sideline while coaching the Liverpool FC where he discusses how John helped him write In My Life, later is shown on a computer laying out a complex drainage structure while he talks about the neverending fist fights between George and John. ;D
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 16, 2012 8:17:56 GMT -5
;D I still remember that extra bonus Beatles Anthology disc where Paul speaks to the camera while delivering a foal while denying that Pete Best ever existed, then talks from the sideline while coaching the Liverpool FC where he discusses how John helped him write In My Life, later is shown on a computer laying out a complex drainage structure while he talks about the neverending fist fights between George and John. ;D Not to mention the interview where Paul explains why he kept screwing up during "The One After 909" studio recording as captured on AI, said interview while Paul pilots solo the Space Shuttle Endeavour
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Post by sayne on Jul 16, 2012 9:03:24 GMT -5
. . . Martin Luther was a German monk, priest, professor of theology and iconic figure of the Protestant Reformation . . . he taught that salvation is not earned by good deeds or giving large amounts of money but received only as a free gift of God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ . . . Okay fancy pants. Here we go: Martin Luther (10 November 1483 – 18 February 1546) was a German monk, priest, professor of theology and iconic figure of the Protestant Reformation . . . Luther taught that salvation is not earned by good deeds but received only as a free gift of God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ as redeemer from sin . . . I will refrain by citing all the other sentences you stole.
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Post by lowbasso on Jul 16, 2012 9:22:59 GMT -5
With A Little luck - all about his thwarted wishes to take flying lessons and indulge in civil engineering, especially drainage: With a little luck, we can help it out. We can make this whole damn thing work out. - Reference to dam(n) - wish to solve flooding issues. With a little love, we can lay it down. - reference to drainpipes Cant you feel the town exploding? - because of pressure of water from undammed drainpipes There is no end to what we can do together. - other than bring the drain to an end, at the dam There is no end, there is no end. The wiliow turns his back on inclement weather; - because of flooding to his roots due to inadequate drainage And if he can do it, we can do it, just me and you, And a little luck, we can clear it up. - flooding to the runway, clearance necessary prior to: We can bring it in for a landing, - the plane he wants to learn to fly With a little luck, we can turn it on. - the plane's engine (a Cessna, obviously) There can be no misunderstanding. - I just explained! A Cessna! Pay attention! There is no end to what we can do together. - whether flying lessons or rectifying drainage issues (or, best of all, both at the same time) There is no end, there is no end. The willow turns his back on inclement weather; We can do it, just me and you. With a little push, we could set it off. - obviously, you want your plane to start first time, but if there is too much moisture due to inadequate drainage, you might need a push We can send it rocketing skywards. - Cessna, straight up! With a little love, we could shake it up. - you would need to - if you're rocketing skywards, all the fuel would go to the back of the tank, possibly leading to: Don't you feel the comet exploding? - OK, so that's a bit over-poetic for a Cessna. Turn it down a tad, Paul. ;D I still remember that extra bonus Beatles Anthology disc where Paul speaks to the camera while delivering a foal while denying that Pete Best ever existed, then talks from the sideline while coaching the Liverpool FC where he discusses how John helped him write In My Life, later is shown on a computer laying out a complex drainage structure while he talks about the neverending fist fights between George and John. ;D So how many times did George hit John, or did John hit George? Inquiring minds need to know.....
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Post by mikev on Jul 16, 2012 16:20:02 GMT -5
Is this the Martin Luther you're on about? I've never seen this MP skit before ;D.
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Post by acebackwords on Jul 16, 2012 16:40:06 GMT -5
Martin Luther was a German monk, priest, professor of theology and iconic figure of the Protestant Reformation who was excommunicated from the Catholic Church of England becsuse he taught that salvation is not earned by good deeds or giving large amounts of money but received only as a free gift of God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ. His theology challenged the authority of the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church by teaching that the Bible is the only source of divinely revealed knowledge.Those who identify with Luther's teachings are called Lutherans. I might be wrong here (and not the first time for that!) but I always assumed the "Martin Luther" and the "Martin Luther Lennon" lines referred to Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. who, like Lennon, had been deified as a holy martyr. What do you guys think?
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Post by scousette on Jul 16, 2012 17:14:52 GMT -5
Martin Luther was a German monk, priest, professor of theology and iconic figure of the Protestant Reformation who was excommunicated from the Catholic Church of England becsuse he taught that salvation is not earned by good deeds or giving large amounts of money but received only as a free gift of God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ. His theology challenged the authority of the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church by teaching that the Bible is the only source of divinely revealed knowledge.Those who identify with Luther's teachings are called Lutherans. I might be wrong here (and not the first time for that!) but I always assumed the "Martin Luther" and the "Martin Luther Lennon" lines referred to Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. who, like Lennon, had been deified as a holy martyr. What do you guys think? I like that!
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Post by joeyself on Jul 16, 2012 17:52:10 GMT -5
This song is Paul's plea to the church to not be so exclusional about heaven. This entire post needs to be remembered when we nominate the funniest ones of the year--it's hilarious, and apparently some of you are taking it seriously! Good job, RTP! But I leave that last sentence to point out that it makes no difference what MAN says--himself, or through a church organization--about who is getting into heaven; that's the role of the Judge, the Creator. I recognize you were just having a larf here, and maybe I shouldn't have even bit on that one line. JcS
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Post by Panther on Jul 16, 2012 18:04:09 GMT -5
Still waiting for the interpretation of 'Ode to a Koala Bear'...
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Post by winstonoboogie on Jul 16, 2012 20:02:44 GMT -5
Is this the Martin Luther you're on about? I've never seen this MP skit before ;D. Yes! Me either!
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Post by sayne on Jul 16, 2012 21:10:42 GMT -5
This song is Paul's plea to the church to not be so exclusional about heaven. This entire post needs to be remembered when we nominate the funniest ones of the year--it's hilarious, and apparently some of you are taking it seriously! Good job, RTP! You've given him another out. Not only will he be able to say "What Paul really meant" or "Paul meant to be silly" when he is faced with evidence of Paul's lyrical stumbles, you have now allowed him to say, "I was kidding," whenever he is caught lying, stealing, or being ridiculous. Thanks guy.
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Post by joeyself on Jul 16, 2012 21:33:12 GMT -5
So? At least the conversation will be over, and it won't be on the top 100 any longer.
JcS
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Post by sayne on Jul 17, 2012 9:25:35 GMT -5
So? At least the conversation will be over, and it won't be on the top 100 any longer. JcS "So"? It matters. It's okay for all of us to disagree with one another. It's okay for us to debate FACTS. It's okay for us to interpret FACTS. It's okay for us to draw different conclusions from those FACTS. What is NOT okay is for people to pass off other people's words or thoughts as their own without attribution. If one wants to say Mean Mr. Mustard is about the NASA Space Program, then say, "In my interpretation of the song and things I've read . . . " Cite your sources, state your case, and begone. Don't say that it IS about NASA or give a general "it's been written," or lift from sources and claim them as your own. I like debating and sharing ideas with people on this board. But, it is insulting for people to have to be subjected to someone who does not respect us or this board enough to be intellectually honest. Here's an addage that I made up a long time ago that I think is appropriate here: "The truth will set you free."
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Post by andyb on Jul 17, 2012 9:38:08 GMT -5
Is this the Martin Luther you're on about? I've never seen this MP skit before ;D. It was snipped out of the "Meaning of Life" and included as a deleted scene on the DVD. It was originally going to come after the Protestant Couple scene where they are talking proudly about how they can use condoms if they want to but those "bloody" catholics across can't and have to have hundreds of children. Cue "Every Sperm is Sacred" Song. ;D I thought it was really funny and a shame it was left out but apparently it interrupted the flow of the film and John Cleese wasn't too keen.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jul 17, 2012 10:33:54 GMT -5
That's fine. Everyone can laugh at me. I don't mind being made fun of. But I just think more often than not when someone like Paul is moved to write a song, it is special to him. Not just the music but the words too. If he didn't care about the words and meaning, he would farm that out to someone elso like Elton John does. He cares about every detail of his songs when he is writing a serious lyric. His style to to veil the meaning. When you take the words literally, you are taking a short cut and it is a lazy way to view Paul's lyrics. Some of his songs mean nothing, but when he makes it so obvious by using the name Martin Luther, the champion of opening up the Catholic church to all people, its hard to miss Paul's point. For example, San Ferry Anne being about homosexuality. Its clear to me.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 17, 2012 10:47:44 GMT -5
As AndyB has said somewhere, Paul wears a mask on his inner-most personal feelings.
Paul is said to revere the memory of his parents.
In Paul's old age, I wonder if he has ever thought about re-embracing his mother's Catholicism which was very, very important to Mary McCartney. Or at least certain aspects of it, big picture stuff. Mary Mac made sure Paul and Michael were baptized and organized religion apparently was part of Paul's life while his mother was alive.
James McCartney was of a Protestant background but really agnostic but had such love and respect of his wife Mary that he did not interfere with her wishes, in her lifetime at least, as to the boys' religious training.
I was struck by the overtly religious expressions found, in all places, the poppish "Motor Of Love" which was the first time I can remember Paul ever expressing such sentiments other than in perhaps his mock gospel style he sometimes embraces.
Here are the lyrics:
I Can't Get Over Your Love No Matter How Hard Life Seems, There's A Light In My Dreams Thanks To You.
My Friends Keep Asking Me Why There's Such A Smile On My Face, There's A Home At My Place, Thanks To You.
I Don't Want Anything From You, Turn On Your Motor Of Love. Motor Of Love, Motor Of Love. Heavenly Father Look Down From Above, I Can't Get Over Your Powerful Motor Of Love.
I Can't Get Over Your Love No Matter How Lost I Feel, I Know My Love Is Real, Thanks To You.
You Simply Reached Out Your Hand And Touched Me Deep In My Soul, I Came In Out Of The Cold, Thanks To You.
I Won't Steal Anything From You, You Give Me More Than Enough. Motor Of Love, Motor Of Love. Heavenly Father Look Down From Above, I Can't Get Over Your Powerful Motor Of Love.
There Was A Time When I Was Down And Counted Out, Well I Remember I Felt So Bad I Nearly Threw Away, Nearly Threw Away The Keys.
Motor Of Love, Motor Of Love. Heavenly Father Look Down From Above, Motor Of Love, Motor Of Love. Heavenly Father Look Down From Above, I Can't Get Over Your Powerful Motor Of Love.
The "Heavenly Father" reference startled me back in 1989 as it came from our seemingly agnostic Paul but look at the whole lyrics. There is something going on here beyond a wife or lover.
I am convinced that Paul borrowed a page from the George Harrison playbook and wrote what appears to be a love song to a woman, perhaps Linda, but it is really a love song to God. If that is true, this would be a major philosophical shift with Paul McCartney and thus elevate this song in importance in his catalog from the seeming and deliberate obscurity Paul chose for it by sticking it towards the end of a long album.
I do not ascribe any deeper meaning to this song other than pretty explicit evidence of Paul's own personal spiritual re-awakening dormant since the death of his mother.
In my opinion, these lyrics are not aimed at a physical lover but just like George was wont to do, these are couched for a higher spiritual being.
I have found a dearth of Paul quotes on "Motor Of Love" and even if he comments on it somewhere I don't expect him to be fully frank on the song's meaning; Paul rarely is as to any song.
This is just my opinion from the context of these lyrics including the overt "Heavenly Father" phrase.
I am not endorsing any views on religion other than if I am correct, this song represents a major personal shift with Paul and is thus noteworthy and not some bland love song cranked out by Paul a million times before.
I also realize I write this on the eve of RTP's startling claim on "Let 'Em In" but my opinion does not seem radical in view of Paul's own lyrics in MOL and I only claim an apparent spiritual reawakening by Paul, not a lyric getting into serious theological doctrine on salvation!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 17, 2012 10:56:10 GMT -5
That's fine. Everyone can laugh at me. I don't mind being made fun of. But I just think more often than not when someone like Paul is moved to write a song, it is special to him. Not just the music but the words too. If he didn't care about the words and meaning, he would farm that out to someone elso like Elton John does. He cares about every detail of his songs when he is writing a serious lyric. His style to to veil the meaning. When you take the words literally, you are taking a short cut and it is a lazy way to view Paul's lyrics. Some of his songs mean nothing, but when he makes it so obvious by using the name Martin Luther, the champion of opening up the Catholic church to all people, its hard to miss Paul's point. For example, San Ferry Anne being about homosexuality. Its clear to me. I don't know if everyone is laughing at you but just asking for your source of information if you are making an assertion of fact rather than stating an opinion on the song's meaning. sayne laid that point out nicely. As I have indicated, I hope you are correct RTP on "Let 'Em In" but I would love to read that interview you yourself referenced where Paul apparently said LEI was about theology! I don't ever rule out any opinion you assert on Macca as there are still pretty good Las Vegas odds that you are either Paul himself, brother Michael or maybe Stella McCartney!
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Post by mikev on Jul 17, 2012 11:01:33 GMT -5
So? At least the conversation will be over, and it won't be on the top 100 any longer. JcS "So"? It matters. It's okay for all of us to disagree with one another. It's okay for us to debate FACTS. It's okay for us to interpret FACTS. It's okay for us to draw different conclusions from those FACTS. What is NOT okay is for people to pass off other people's words or thoughts as their own without attribution. If one wants to say Mean Mr. Mustard is about the NASA Space Program, then say, "In my interpretation of the song and things I've read . . . " Cite your sources, state your case, and begone. Don't say that it IS about NASA or give a general "it's been written," or lift from sources and claim them as your own. I like debating and sharing ideas with people on this board. But, it is insulting for people to have to be subjected to someone who does not respect us or this board enough to be intellectually honest. Here's an addage that I made up a long time ago that I think is appropriate here: "The truth will set you free." I have a better one...Gimme Some Truth ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by mikev on Jul 17, 2012 11:17:29 GMT -5
;D I still remember that extra bonus Beatles Anthology disc where Paul speaks to the camera while delivering a foal while denying that Pete Best ever existed, then talks from the sideline while coaching the Liverpool FC where he discusses how John helped him write In My Life, later is shown on a computer laying out a complex drainage structure while he talks about the neverending fist fights between George and John. ;D So how many times did George hit John, or did John hit George? Inquiring minds need to know..... to digress from the 1974 encounter, Sulpy's book talks in depth (actual Beatle dialogue)about a headline saying that John and George came to blows when George walked out January 10th. They laughed, talked about suing the reporter, and mentioned that they fought only once at dinner in Hamburg in the early years. Can't say about 1974, but it definitely didn't happen between 64 and 69.
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Post by andyb on Jul 17, 2012 11:22:29 GMT -5
So how many times did George hit John, or did John hit George? Inquiring minds need to know..... to digress from the 1974 encounter, Sulpy's book talks in depth (actual Beatle dialogue)about a headline saying that John and George came to blows when George walked out January 10th. They laughed, talked about suing the reporter, and mentioned that they fought only once at dinner in Hamburg in the early years. Can't say about 1974, but it definitely didn't happen between 64 and 69. Well remembered Mike. I could only remember part of the story mentioned in the Sulphy book. No one is laughing at you RTP. You're a valuable, if a little one sided, contributor to the board. If you make such claims it's best to have the quotes to hand or just express something explicitly as your opinion. That's all. Back to it lads and lasses.
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Post by andyb on Jul 17, 2012 11:25:14 GMT -5
Mike.
The dialogue you mentioned in your post. Is that in the latest edition of the book? Mine didn't actually have any dialogue transcripts but rather summaries of the conversations with endless listings of the songs played.
If so, is that version of the book a good read?
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jul 17, 2012 11:44:54 GMT -5
This entire post needs to be remembered when we nominate the funniest ones of the year--it's hilarious, and apparently some of you are taking it seriously! Good job, RTP! You've given him another out. Not only will he be able to say "What Paul really meant" or "Paul meant to be silly" when he is faced with evidence of Paul's lyrical stumbles, you have now allowed him to say, "I was kidding," whenever he is caught lying, stealing, or being ridiculous. Thanks guy. I didn't lie or steal. I was just trying to explain who Martin Luther was. I added some of my own words. I should have cited the source. I am sorry if I misled anyone. I did't intend to do that. I didn't say anything about Martin Luther that wasn't true. I just should have cited the source. I did not steal or lie.
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Post by scousette on Jul 17, 2012 12:01:32 GMT -5
You've given him another out. Not only will he be able to say "What Paul really meant" or "Paul meant to be silly" when he is faced with evidence of Paul's lyrical stumbles, you have now allowed him to say, "I was kidding," whenever he is caught lying, stealing, or being ridiculous. Thanks guy. I didn't lie or steal. I was just trying to explain who Martin Luther was. I added some of my own words. I should have cited the source. I am sorry if I misled anyone. I did't intend to do that. I didn't say anything about Martin Luther that wasn't true. I just should have cited the source. I did not steal or lie. OK, "Let 'im in!"
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Post by zemargla on Jul 17, 2012 12:03:07 GMT -5
I do believe, in "Motor Of Love" it's NOT God Paul is thinking of, but actually his dearly beloved father James McCartney himself. As AndyB has said somewhere, Paul wears a mask on his inner-most personal feelings. Paul is said to revere the memory of his parents. In Paul's old age, I wonder if he has ever thought about re-embracing his mother's Catholicism which was very, very important to Mary McCartney. Or at least certain aspects of it, big picture stuff. Mary Mac made sure Paul and Michael were baptized and organized religion apparently was part of Paul's life while his mother was alive. James McCartney was of a Protestant background but really agnostic but had such love and respect of his wife Mary that he did not interfere with her wishes, in her lifetime at least, as to the boys' religious training. I was struck by the overtly religious expressions found, in all places, the poppish "Motor Of Love" which was the first time I can remember Paul ever expressing such sentiments other than in perhaps his mock gospel style he sometimes embraces. Here are the lyrics: I Can't Get Over Your Love No Matter How Hard Life Seems, There's A Light In My Dreams Thanks To You.
My Friends Keep Asking Me Why There's Such A Smile On My Face, There's A Home At My Place, Thanks To You.
I Don't Want Anything From You, Turn On Your Motor Of Love. Motor Of Love, Motor Of Love. Heavenly Father Look Down From Above, I Can't Get Over Your Powerful Motor Of Love.
I Can't Get Over Your Love No Matter How Lost I Feel, I Know My Love Is Real, Thanks To You.
You Simply Reached Out Your Hand And Touched Me Deep In My Soul, I Came In Out Of The Cold, Thanks To You.
I Won't Steal Anything From You, You Give Me More Than Enough. Motor Of Love, Motor Of Love. Heavenly Father Look Down From Above, I Can't Get Over Your Powerful Motor Of Love.
There Was A Time When I Was Down And Counted Out, Well I Remember I Felt So Bad I Nearly Threw Away, Nearly Threw Away The Keys.
Motor Of Love, Motor Of Love. Heavenly Father Look Down From Above, Motor Of Love, Motor Of Love. Heavenly Father Look Down From Above, I Can't Get Over Your Powerful Motor Of Love.The "Heavenly Father" reference startled me back in 1989 as it came from our seemingly agnostic Paul but look at the whole lyrics. There is something going on here beyond a wife or lover. I am convinced that Paul borrowed a page from the George Harrison playbook and wrote what appears to be a love song to a woman, perhaps Linda, but it is really a love song to God. If that is true, this would be a major philosophical shift with Paul McCartney and thus elevate this song in importance in his catalog from the seeming and deliberate obscurity Paul chose for it by sticking it towards the end of a long album. I do not ascribe any deeper meaning to this song other than pretty explicit evidence of Paul's own personal spiritual re-awakening dormant since the death of his mother. In my opinion, these lyrics are not aimed at a physical lover but just like George was wont to do, these are couched for a higher spiritual being. I have found a dearth of Paul quotes on "Motor Of Love" and even if he comments on it somewhere I don't expect him to be fully frank on the song's meaning; Paul rarely is as to any song. This is just my opinion from the context of these lyrics including the overt "Heavenly Father" phrase. I am not endorsing any views on religion other than if I am correct, this song represents a major personal shift with Paul and is thus noteworthy and not some bland love song cranked out by Paul a million times before. I also realize I write this on the eve of RTP's startling claim on "Let 'Em In" but my opinion does not seem radical in view of Paul's own lyrics in MOL and I only claim an apparent spiritual reawakening by Paul, not a lyric getting into serious theological doctrine on salvation!
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Post by acebackwords on Jul 17, 2012 12:16:43 GMT -5
You've given him another out. Not only will he be able to say "What Paul really meant" or "Paul meant to be silly" when he is faced with evidence of Paul's lyrical stumbles, you have now allowed him to say, "I was kidding," whenever he is caught lying, stealing, or being ridiculous. Thanks guy. I didn't lie or steal. I was just trying to explain who Martin Luther was. I added some of my own words. I should have cited the source. I am sorry if I misled anyone. I did't intend to do that. I didn't say anything about Martin Luther that wasn't true. I just should have cited the source. I did not steal or lie. Yes but you still haven't responded to my question. How do you know if Paul was referring to Martin Luthur or Rev. Martin Luther King Jr? In fact, in "Let Em In" Paul refers to all the other characters by first name only. No last names. Which makes me suspect he was writing about King. But the larger point (which is the general criticism of your posts on this board): How do you know for sure what Paul is singing about? Its just your interpretation. And not always a particularly sharp interpretation.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 17, 2012 13:06:37 GMT -5
I do believe, in "Motor Of Love" it's NOT God Paul is thinking of, but actually his dearly beloved father James McCartney himself. So Paul pulled a page from his own playbook, i.e. "Let It Be," and elevated his other deceased parent to deity status! ;D When LIB the song came out, everyone was surprised and thought Paul was referring to the Virgin Mary, the mother of Christ in Christian belief. In fact, the average person even today who doesn't read Beatles books or Paul interviews would still reasonably think that because of the context in which Paul uses "Mother Mary" in the song. I have in fact considered that reference being about father James but I couldn't see Paul playing that trick twice. I don't totally discount that thought though, zemargla! Most people would think of "heavenly father" as God but Paul surprised us in LIB with "mother Mary comes to me" being literally his mother! The use "heavenly" is interesting nonetheless as it is still expressing a belief in a spiritual afterlife. Many Beatles fans would be uncomfortable with Paul singing about God. One religious Beatle already is one too many for some folks. As I say, I am not taking a position on whether Paul should sing about God or is right to sing about God(if in fact he is) but just stated my opinion that this was an ode to a deity Paul had not written about before and would represent a major philosophical change in him which I would then find fascinating. It is just my opinion and fun to think about.
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Post by mikev on Jul 17, 2012 14:22:52 GMT -5
Mike. The dialogue you mentioned in your post. Is that in the latest edition of the book? Mine didn't actually have any dialogue transcripts but rather summaries of the conversations with endless listings of the songs played. If so, is that version of the book a good read? My version does not have transcripts (just some description of their general conversation), but it is the last edition as far as I know. I probably have the actual recording somewhere in my vast collection of flac files that I'll probably never get to. Turned out when Sulpy e-mailed me the pdf- he noticed my current hometown is where he grew up. I responded but never heard back from him.
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Post by andyb on Jul 17, 2012 14:27:14 GMT -5
Ok. I'll look it up and see if it's worth getting the latest version. Cheers.
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Post by zemargla on Jul 17, 2012 14:52:48 GMT -5
Indeed I've heard or read a remark from Paul where he said he'd become more interested in religion and God. This was after Linda had died. He thought it might help to cope with the loss. (Won't find the source, sorry) I agree the 'heavenly' shows a believe in the afterlive. I have no doubt Paul is a spiritual person. I do believe, in "Motor Of Love" it's NOT God Paul is thinking of, but actually his dearly beloved father James McCartney himself. So Paul pulled a page from his own playbook, i.e. "Let It Be," and elevated his other deceased parent to deity status! ;D When LIB the song came out, everyone was surprised and thought Paul was referring to the Virgin Mary, the mother of Christ in Christian belief. In fact, the average person even today who doesn't read Beatles books or Paul interviews would still reasonably think that because of the context in which Paul uses "Mother Mary" in the song. I have in fact considered that reference being about father James but I couldn't see Paul playing that trick twice. I don't totally discount that thought though, zemargla! Most people would think of "heavenly father" as God but Paul surprised us in LIB with "mother Mary comes to me" being literally his mother! The use "heavenly" is interesting nonetheless as it is still expressing a belief in a spiritual afterlife. Many Beatles fans would be uncomfortable with Paul singing about God. One religious Beatle already is one too many for some folks. As I say, I am not taking a position on whether Paul should sing about God or is right to sing about God(if in fact he is) but just stated my opinion that this was an ode to a deity Paul had not written about before and would represent a major philosophical change in him which I would then find fascinating. It is just my opinion and fun to think about.
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