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Post by stavros on Nov 18, 2014 18:41:26 GMT -5
Surprised this hasn't been on here yet. But there again this pretty exclusive to Britain.
Christmas Commercial using a cover version of Real Love.
This version actually seems closer to John's demo. Not a bad version but I think I prefer the Beatles version.
(Oddly enough whilst I was posting this I was watching a program about the Monty Python gang and the 1980 Hollywood Bowl show comes up. No one mentions meeting a George Harrison or John Lennon at that show despite a number of mentions just before that George was actually in a sketch with them!. So the Badman book and the alleged last meeting of George & John in 1980 remains a mystery).
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 19, 2014 0:04:32 GMT -5
Surprised this hasn't been on here yet. But there again there again this pretty exclusive to Britain. Christmas Commercial using a cover version of Real Love. This version actually seems closer to John's demo. Not a bad version but I think I prefer the Beatles version. (Oddly enough whilst I was posting this I was watching a program about the Monty Python gang and the 1980 Hollywood Bowl show comes up. No one mentions meeting a George Harrison or John Lennon at that show despite a number of mentions just before that George was actually in a sketch with them!. So the Badman book and the alleged last meeting of George & John in 1980 remains a mystery).Wow, that was brilliant! That proves there is a very good song there when recorded properly and not some cassette demo or whatever.
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Post by mikev on Nov 19, 2014 9:45:08 GMT -5
Surprised this hasn't been on here yet. But there again there again this pretty exclusive to Britain. Christmas Commercial using a cover version of Real Love. This version actually seems closer to John's demo. Not a bad version but I think I prefer the Beatles version. (Oddly enough whilst I was posting this I was watching a program about the Monty Python gang and the 1980 Hollywood Bowl show comes up. No one mentions meeting a George Harrison or John Lennon at that show despite a number of mentions just before that George was actually in a sketch with them!. So the Badman book and the alleged last meeting of George & John in 1980 remains a mystery).Wow, that was brilliant! That proves there is a very good song there when recorded properly and not some cassette demo or whatever. Mary Chapin Carpenter and Glen Campbell had recorded poignant versions of Grow Old With Me as well. I still feel very strongly that proper versions of some of John's complete cassette songs need to at the very least get published. Memories, Gone From This Place, Mucho Mungo, Sally and Billy, She Was a Friend of Dorothy's are all pure Lennon classics IMO. These and others do have some fragments of songs actualy released, but are still different in various ways. This new cover also suggests that some strings may have lifted the Beatles' version of Real Love higher. Wonderful version.
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 19, 2014 10:03:24 GMT -5
Mike, I absolutely love Mary Chapin Carpenter's and Glen Campbell's covers of "Grow Old With Me." You are so correct.
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Post by stavros on Nov 19, 2014 17:22:13 GMT -5
Now I've heard this "Real Love" version a few times I am warming to it. It is quite easy to imagine John's vocal over this arrangement. Now I am wondering if John's vision of the song was more like this?
He probably didn't think it was ever going to be a Beatles record.
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Post by coachbk on Nov 20, 2014 10:00:18 GMT -5
OK version, but I prefer how the Beatles did it by a wide margin.
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 20, 2014 10:13:39 GMT -5
The thing I don't like about The Beatles' version of "Real Love" is John's distant, robotic vocal. Sure, it is much better than his FAAB vocal but there is still no warmth or heart and soul in what they used. There are better takes of "Real Love" but apparently they were found afterwards or Yoko didn't share those ones with the guys.
In the commercial here the singer sounds like he means it: finding real love. It is lovely and I would like to find the complete version.
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Post by lowbasso on Nov 20, 2014 13:21:42 GMT -5
Surprised this hasn't been on here yet. But there again this pretty exclusive to Britain. Christmas Commercial using a cover version of Real Love. This version actually seems closer to John's demo. Not a bad version but I think I prefer the Beatles version. (Oddly enough whilst I was posting this I was watching a program about the Monty Python gang and the 1980 Hollywood Bowl show comes up. No one mentions meeting a George Harrison or John Lennon at that show despite a number of mentions just before that George was actually in a sketch with them!. So the Badman book and the alleged last meeting of George & John in 1980 remains a mystery).If you like the cover version on the commercial, you can buy the song here on ITunes; itunes.apple.com/gb/album/real-love-single/id936897528
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Post by stavros on Nov 20, 2014 14:59:23 GMT -5
The thing I don't like about The Beatles' version of "Real Love" is John's distant, robotic vocal. Sure, it is much better than his FAAB vocal but there is still no warmth or heart and soul in what they used. There are better takes of "Real Love" but apparently they were found afterwards or Yoko didn't share those ones with the guys. In the commercial here the singer sounds like he means it: finding real love. It is lovely and I would like to find the complete version. Here you go Johnny. It's by a young singer by the name of Tom Odell It actually comes in at just over 2 minutes. BTW - Thanks lowbasso for I-Tunes link. It's actually picking up a lot of airplay over here in Blighty and is short odds to be our Christmas No.1. Although for the last decade that often goes to the winner of X-Factor (which across the pond is the same sort of show as American Idol).I still prefer the Beatles version too (but this version does grow on you). Now it's screaming out for a better vocal from John on that 90s Beatles track. Perhaps with all the interest the song is getting it may stir Apple into action to at least do something for the 20th anniversary of the Anthology. Not sure if this is getting any interest outside our small group of islands though?
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 20, 2014 18:47:05 GMT -5
There are better takes of "Real Love" but apparently they were found afterwards or Yoko didn't share those ones with the guys. You mean like the version on Imagine: John Lennon, released 8 years earlier?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Nov 21, 2014 7:31:53 GMT -5
You mean like the version on Imagine: John Lennon, released 8 years earlier? I'm glad Yoko did not re-use that 1988 version for ANTHOLOGY; it was already its own released track. And on that '88 version, John sings "Real LIFE". He also sort of seems to be singing the words less clearly, and it seems there are fewer of them to work with than in the Anthology "Real Love".
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 21, 2014 11:43:11 GMT -5
You mean like the version on Imagine: John Lennon, released 8 years earlier? I'm glad Yoko did not re-use that 1988 version for ANTHOLOGY; it was already its own released track. And on that '88 version, John sings "Real LIFE". He also sort of seems to be singing the words less clearly, and it seems there are fewer of them to work with than in the Anthology "Real Love". What Joe said.
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Post by lowbasso on Nov 21, 2014 12:23:27 GMT -5
Real Love really is a beautiful song. Tom Odell does a gorgeous cover rendition of it for this commercial. I for one, am glad that John's little embryo cassette ditty of this song turned out to be one of his better compositions as a solo artist. Right up there melodically with Imagine, Good Night, and Julia for it's sheer beauty. Personally I think Paul and George could have come up with a better arrangement for the Beatles version, but then again, I guess we should be happy those two could get on well enough to come out with what they did given their track record of co-writing anything.
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 21, 2014 14:12:16 GMT -5
The thing I don't like about The Beatles' version of "Real Love" is John's distant, robotic vocal. Sure, it is much better than his FAAB vocal but there is still no warmth or heart and soul in what they used. There are better takes of "Real Love" but apparently they were found afterwards or Yoko didn't share those ones with the guys. In the commercial here the singer sounds like he means it: finding real love. It is lovely and I would like to find the complete version. Here you go Johnny. It's by a young singer by the name of Tom Odell It actually comes in at just over 2 minutes. BTW - Thanks lowbasso for I-Tunes link. It's actually picking up a lot of airplay over here in Blighty and is short odds to be our Christmas No.1. Although for the last decade that often goes to the winner of X-Factor (which across the pond is the same sort of show as American Idol).I still prefer the Beatles version too (but this version does grow on you). Now it's screaming out for a better vocal from John on that 90s Beatles track. Perhaps with all the interest the song is getting it may stir Apple into action to at least do something for the 20th anniversary of the Anthology. Not sure if this is getting any interest outside our small group of islands though? Oh man, I tried to play the video but it says, "The Provider has not made this available in your country!" But thanks Stavros and lowbasso, now I know where to look. I am really moved by this cover! Also, there is a complete version on The John Lennon Anthology which I like.
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 21, 2014 15:27:33 GMT -5
Here is a video that will play in the U.S.:
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 21, 2014 15:27:53 GMT -5
Here is a video that will play in the U.S.:
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 21, 2014 15:30:10 GMT -5
Here is a video that will play in the U.S.:
Mr. Odell omits the verse starting with, "From this moment on I'm sure...."
Still, a very lovely cover that was a hit in the U.K. That is cool.
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Post by stavros on Nov 21, 2014 17:14:10 GMT -5
Here is a video that will play in the U.S.: Mr. Odell omits the verse starting with, "From this moment on I'm sure...." Still, a very lovely cover that was a hit in the U.K. That is cool. Yes it's currently up to No.7 in our charts at the moment. I am sorry you guys across the Atlantic can't watch the original Tom Odell video. I had no idea it was blocked state side (hint: find a proxy server). Strange that you can watch the same song in a commercial for a store you'd have to cross the Atlantic to visit. A few years ago I re-evaluated my opinion of John Lennon circa 1980 by listening to a few of his final interviews. He seemed happier than perhaps he'd been for a long time. I think he was coming to terms with the fact that he would always be seen as a Beatle and had long buried his petty differences with Paul. And the old sly dog hadn't stopped writing songs in his "house husband" years. It is so sad that we never got to hear more from John Lennon as we approach an anniversary many of us would prefer to forget. Because he could still turn out a decent tune.
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 21, 2014 18:47:07 GMT -5
You mean like the version on Imagine: John Lennon, released 8 years earlier? I'm glad Yoko did not re-use that 1988 version for ANTHOLOGY; it was already its own released track. And on that '88 version, John sings "Real LIFE". He also sort of seems to be singing the words less clearly, and it seems there are fewer of them to work with than in the Anthology "Real Love". Well, I hadn't thought of it like that. Real Love is a much better lyric. I really brought it up because Paul and George always said the songs they worked on were songs that were never released. They either forgot about it being used in Imagine: John Lennon or did not see the film.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 23:51:20 GMT -5
He probably didn't think it was ever going to be a Beatles record. And it wasn't, well, not really, we're meant to pretend it was.
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Post by vectisfabber on Nov 22, 2014 5:31:11 GMT -5
And - we're off!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 5:51:20 GMT -5
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Post by sayne on Nov 22, 2014 11:42:25 GMT -5
. . .She Was a Friend of Dorothy's . . . I like that title, "nod, nod, wink, wink."
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 22, 2014 13:15:31 GMT -5
If there was a John Lennon tribute album like The Art Of Paul McCartney: The Songs Of Paul McCartney Sung By the Greatest Artists In The World, I'd want Bob Dylan doing "Real Love" in his gravely 2014 voice! It would be perfect: world-weary, heartbroken, living sleazy Dylan of his current persona singing about innocent little boys and girls and then finding "real love!" It would be perfect. There is an incredible sadness in this song in my opinion and Dylan could draw that out beautifully.
It would need a very simple backing with a piano I think but Dylan's band is awesome.
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Post by mikev on Dec 13, 2014 10:26:15 GMT -5
I like that title, "nod, nod, wink, wink." Just saw this...I think that was what Lennon was writing about. It is a very different sound from him and would have been a cool colab with Bowie (because of musical style not lifestyle) or even McCartney.
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