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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 16, 2016 12:34:03 GMT -5
Just got in late last night and still recovering, but it was a great couple of days. Covered the red carpet and then went to the show later and the after party. Paul and I somehow missed each other. Here's my first story. I took tons of pics that I'll go through today. www.axs.com/news/love-show-celebrates-10th-anniversary-with-beatles-and-assorted-stars-102783Here's a pic a friend sent with me waiting for the events to begin in the back on the right. Attachments:
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 16, 2016 12:42:38 GMT -5
I did a couple of Periscope reports before the ceremony. My account is under my name, so feel free to follow me. I have other non-Beatles reports, too.
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Post by lowbasso on Jul 16, 2016 23:38:53 GMT -5
I get nothing but advertisements when I click on your report link Steve.
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Post by sayne on Jul 17, 2016 1:27:05 GMT -5
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 17, 2016 11:58:28 GMT -5
I have to get out there to see LOVE. The changes sound for the better, putting the actual Beatles more into the show.
No Julian? I hope he doesn't feel uninvited!
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Post by lowbasso on Jul 17, 2016 12:19:31 GMT -5
It appears Giles has remixed all the Love Tracks into 2016 remixes, much like he did last year with many of the Beatles 1 video releases that included new versions of FAAB and RL. The new versions of the Threetles reunion songs are only available thru last year's DVD, so I had to pull them directly off the video versions to get audio clips of them for my Ipod. I think thw new versions are much better than the original ones released in 1994-95 on the anthology CD's. He also added a new song; a remix of "Twist & Shout" to the Love Soundtrack and the show. Planning to go later this year to see it once more. Last saw it in 2007.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 18, 2016 5:43:24 GMT -5
The new versions of the Threetles reunion songs ... I count Four of them on those tracks.
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Post by lowbasso on Jul 22, 2016 9:00:40 GMT -5
Heading to Vegas for 4 days in December. Got my Love tickets. Saw the show eight years ago so looking forward to the remixed songs and new routines!
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Post by lowbasso on Aug 3, 2016 11:23:01 GMT -5
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 3, 2016 20:30:15 GMT -5
That's by Allan Kozinn, my cohort on "Things We Said Today" and also a friend of a couple of you here.
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Post by lowbasso on Aug 4, 2016 15:17:26 GMT -5
That's by Allan Kozinn, my cohort on "Things We Said Today" and also a friend of a couple of you here. One of the most knowledgable and fairest critics the NY Times ever had. From Baroque Music to The Beatles. Why they have let other hacks continue and limit his reporting is beyond me.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 5, 2016 14:28:18 GMT -5
That's by Allan Kozinn, my cohort on "Things We Said Today" and also a friend of a couple of you here. One of the most knowledgable and fairest critics the NY Times ever had. From Baroque Music to The Beatles. Why they have let other hacks continue and limit his reporting is beyond me. Beyond me, too...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 16:17:28 GMT -5
The new versions of the Threetles reunion songs ... I count Four of them on those tracks. On the Augmented Lennon solo songs ?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 5, 2016 22:48:25 GMT -5
I count Four of them on those tracks. On the Augmented Lennon solo songs ? No ..... on the two Beatles songs that were ultimately released, using unfinished Lennon demos as a guide. And released as THE BEATLES with all four members in agreement to reunite as such (with Yoko speaking on John's behalf). The genesis of the tracks is not what matters; the end result is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 2:09:37 GMT -5
On the Augmented Lennon solo songs ? No ..... on the two Beatles songs that were ultimately released, using unfinished Lennon demos as a guide. And released as THE BEATLES with all four members in agreement to reunite as such (with Yoko speaking on John's behalf). The genesis of the tracks is not what matters; the end result is. So all four members didn't agree. for obvious reasons. The end result is a gimmick to promote product, that's what matters.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 6, 2016 6:14:01 GMT -5
No ..... on the two Beatles songs that were ultimately released, using unfinished Lennon demos as a guide. And released as THE BEATLES with all four members in agreement to reunite as such (with Yoko speaking on John's behalf). The genesis of the tracks is not what matters; the end result is. So all four members didn't agree. for obvious reasons. The end result is a gimmick to promote product, that's what matters. It doesn't matter whether it was a gimmick or done to sell snake oil. They still considered themselves The Beatles for those sessions. And John's participation is legally every bit as much as a Beatle as the whole Anthology documentary itself is called The Beatles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2016 6:34:02 GMT -5
So all four members didn't agree. for obvious reasons. The end result is a gimmick to promote product, that's what matters. It doesn't matter whether it was a gimmick or done to sell snake oil. They still considered themselves The Beatles for those sessions. And John's participation is legally every bit as much as a Beatle as the whole Anthology documentary itself is called The Beatles. The documentary was based on the Beatles career, when John was a part of it. The Anthologies augmented demo's of John's songs cannot be related to the same Beatles career they are promoting.
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Post by lowbasso on Aug 6, 2016 7:57:13 GMT -5
It doesn't matter whether it was a gimmick or done to sell snake oil. They still considered themselves The Beatles for those sessions. And John's participation is legally every bit as much as a Beatle as the whole Anthology documentary itself is called The Beatles. The documentary was based on the Beatles career, when John was a part of it. The Anthologies augmented demo's of John's songs cannot be related to the same Beatles career they are promoting. Argue semantics all you want. Bottom line; we got to hear the Fab Four on two more songs all together, great harmonies among the front line, and solid drumming behind them. Dead or alive, the sound of all four on a recording using 21st Century technology (Both songs were remixed in 2015) is music to my ears as The Beatles. If there are any more in the can, bring em on! I'll take more Beatles music with all four in any shape or form I can get.
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Post by mikev on Aug 8, 2016 7:23:00 GMT -5
The documentary was based on the Beatles career, when John was a part of it. The Anthologies augmented demo's of John's songs cannot be related to the same Beatles career they are promoting. Argue semantics all you want. Bottom line; we got to hear the Fab Four on two more songs all together, great harmonies among the front line, and solid drumming behind them. Dead or alive, the sound of all four on a recording using 21st Century technology (Both songs were remixed in 2015) is music to my ears as The Beatles. If there are any more in the can, bring em on! I'll take more Beatles music with all four in any shape or form I can get. What?? More Beatles??? Now and then....we may get lucky...
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 8, 2016 9:48:47 GMT -5
Argue semantics all you want. Bottom line; we got to hear the Fab Four on two more songs all together, great harmonies among the front line, and solid drumming behind them. Dead or alive, the sound of all four on a recording using 21st Century technology (Both songs were remixed in 2015) is music to my ears as The Beatles. If there are any more in the can, bring em on! I'll take more Beatles music with all four in any shape or form I can get. What?? More Beatles??? Now and then....we may get lucky... I wouldn't count on it at this point. I think that boat has sailed. But I agree. It was great to get the two songs. And they are a part of the Beatles canon, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by markc on Aug 8, 2016 12:51:03 GMT -5
As John said "It's now or never.....!"
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 8, 2016 15:58:03 GMT -5
This article claims that John wrote "Now And Then" for Paul in 1978 because he dedicates it to Paul on the demo tape: societyofrock.com/john-lennons-last-song-dedicated-to-paul-mccartney-now-and-then-rare/"I know it's true, it's all because of you. And if I make it through, it's all because of you. And now and then, if we must start again. Well we were not sure, that I love you." John Lennon "Now And Then" This is very McLennon! If you have not heard of McLennon, it is a rather significant school of thought from a significant group of fans who believe or fantasize that John and Paul loved each other more than brothers and were either actual lovers or frustrated wanna-be lovers. There are a ton of erotic fan sketches of "McLennon," short stories, poems, lyric interpretations, etc. If one is homophobic he/she would hate "McLennon." If one believes as fictional John said in the made for TV film Birth Of The Beatles that, "Any love is good love" then it is rather beautiful idea! Google images for "McLennon." If "Now And Then" is McLennon, then Paul needs to finish and release it as soon as possible! Here is a site called the "McLennon Anthology." mclennonanthology.tumblr.com/
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 8, 2016 16:10:48 GMT -5
As John said "It's now or never.....!" Not a bad imagining of what the real version might sound like.
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Post by lowbasso on Aug 8, 2016 16:47:57 GMT -5
What?? More Beatles??? Now and then....we may get lucky... I wouldn't count on it at this point. I think that boat has sailed. But I agree. It was great to get the two songs. And they are a part of the Beatles canon, as far as I'm concerned. Won't it be cool when (and it will be "when" not "if") technology will allow us to take recordings of The Beatles that have been digitally stored in bits, and then after composing any new song, it will be able to insert their voices into that new song with their instrumental work to create essentially a new Beatle song. It is the next step in technology after mashups. Paul could write a song when he is 90 years old and computers using digitally held information of all the fab four's voices on every note in the musical scale and as well as their instruments in the same way can fabricate the song as it would have sounded coming from them at their peak years in the 60's. This is just about possible to do now. Some will argue it is not the real Beatles, but semantics aside, it will sound as genuine as anything they ever recorded.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 8, 2016 18:36:25 GMT -5
As John said "It's now or never.....!" Not a bad imagining of what the real version might sound like. That is excellent!
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Post by lowbasso on Dec 13, 2016 8:32:30 GMT -5
Heading out to Vegas on Saturday to see and hear the LOVE show in its revamped form next Monday. Last saw the show in 2007. It is the only place on earth now one can go and listen to a "concert" by The Beatles covering their songs remixed and some gloriously mashed from their recordings. It feels like the band is standing just behind a curtain and are still in their prime as the music washes over you once more like it never could on our primitive transistor radios and caveman like stylus/vinyl stereo systems of the 1960's when I first heard them. Thank you Sir George Martin and Giles Martin for leaving us with this legacy of your work in making the band sound as good as they could on their recordings. And thank you George Harrison for leaving the fans with this show which keeps the music alive today as much as it was 50 years ago. Your vision with Cirque du Soleil to create the show was brilliant and one of the last gifts you left us with. As Paul remarked to Ringo while watching the Vegas show when they first saw it; "Damn! We really were a very good little band back then!" Yes they were, and what a nice little Christmas treat to sit back for about 90 minutes and hear them create that magic once more that makes them the gold standard of 20th Century pop music. "Ladies and gentlemen, The Beatles!!! Let's bring em on!"
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Post by lowbasso on Dec 20, 2016 18:18:40 GMT -5
Loved the new version of LOVE last night in Vegas at The Mirage. The Cirque performers have really re-vamped their routines to make them fantastic. Favorite is Octopus' Garden routine. Just magical. The soundtrack has been really remixed to make it even better than before. Lots of new studio banter added. I wish they were selling a CD of the new version of LOVE. It has been updated so well I think it deserves it's own CD. Had a great time! If you saw the original, get back to Vegas for this new version of LOVE. Definitely worth seeing.
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Post by kc on Dec 20, 2016 21:03:35 GMT -5
I wouldn't count on it at this point. I think that boat has sailed. But I agree. It was great to get the two songs. And they are a part of the Beatles canon, as far as I'm concerned. Won't it be cool when (and it will be "when" not "if") technology will allow us to take recordings of The Beatles that have been digitally stored in bits, and then after composing any new song, it will be able to insert their voices into that new song with their instrumental work to create essentially a new Beatle song. It is the next step in technology after mashups. Paul could write a song when he is 90 years old and computers using digitally held information of all the fab four's voices on every note in the musical scale and as well as their instruments in the same way can fabricate the song as it would have sounded coming from them at their peak years in the 60's. This is just about possible to do now. Some will argue it is not the real Beatles, but semantics aside, it will sound as genuine as anything they ever recorded. I’ve thought about this possibility before. It might be viable in time, but who knows when exactly. The possibilities are fantastic. Just a few off the top of my head: Having the Beatles sing the classic hits of the 1960s that were released by other artists. That is, Beatles versions of Satisfaction, Like A Rolling Stone, Good Vibrations etc. You could keep the original instrumentation, but insert John, Paul and George’s voices and make them Beatles' songs. Beatles versions of their solo material. Repaired versions of poor vocal performances. E.g., a version of Dark Horse with good George vocals. Or, old man Paul recordings with young man Paul vocals. Basically, if you could do this sort of thing in the home, you could create whatever you fancied and never rely on official releases again.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Dec 20, 2016 23:48:41 GMT -5
Won't it be cool when (and it will be "when" not "if") technology will allow us to take recordings of The Beatles that have been digitally stored in bits, and then after composing any new song, it will be able to insert their voices into that new song with their instrumental work to create essentially a new Beatle song. It is the next step in technology after mashups. Paul could write a song when he is 90 years old and computers using digitally held information of all the fab four's voices on every note in the musical scale and as well as their instruments in the same way can fabricate the song as it would have sounded coming from them at their peak years in the 60's. This is just about possible to do now. Some will argue it is not the real Beatles, but semantics aside, it will sound as genuine as anything they ever recorded. I’ve thought about this possibility before. It might be viable in time, but who knows when exactly. The possibilities are fantastic. Just a few off the top of my head: Having the Beatles sing the classic hits of the 1960s that were released by other artists. That is, Beatles versions of Satisfaction, Like A Rolling Stone, Good Vibrations etc. You could keep the original instrumentation, but insert John, Paul and George’s voices and make them Beatles' songs. Beatles versions of their solo material. Repaired versions of poor vocal performances. E.g., a version of Dark Horse with good George vocals. Or, old man Paul recordings with young man Paul vocals. Basically, if you could do this sort of thing in the home, you could create whatever you fancied and never rely on official releases again. One word: ABSURD. End of Rant.
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Post by vectisfabber on Dec 21, 2016 4:21:58 GMT -5
Another word - I'm open to it.
Plus I can't count.
Happy Christmas!
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