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Post by joshferrell on Jul 20, 2009 18:53:36 GMT -5
what do you consider to be mccartneys worst album and his worst song.(yes it can include songs he did with the beatles as well) mine would be (for songs)
mine would be (for songs) 1.mull of kyntire 2.let em in his worst album (in my opinion) 1.mccartney2 2.give my regards to broadstreet (just because it's songs already released before)
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 21, 2009 5:07:10 GMT -5
Out of the mainstream material I would go for:
Song: Temporary Secretary - pointless cacophonous racket and it seems like there's hours of it. Album: Driving Rain - the most upbeat thing I can say about it is "meh."
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 21, 2009 6:09:44 GMT -5
DRIVING RAIN is, hands down, the worst album by Paul for me. Not even close... not one single good song off it. Even Ringo has at least one song I like on each of his solo albums!
I can't just randomly come up with ONE song which I'd consider to be Paul's worst. There are many contenders. I'd guess it could be most any one off DR.
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Post by mikev on Jul 21, 2009 7:04:46 GMT -5
Worst song: The Girl is Mine Worst album: Off the Ground (Though Lovers That Never Were is one of his best solo songs).
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Post by sayne on Jul 21, 2009 10:02:44 GMT -5
I remember on the old thread we were, as always, discussing Paul's set list. As a joke, I wrote about this Earth shattering set list (my memory will only be able to write a partial and merely conceptual recreation that will make my point).
The lights go off. Video projections and sound collages blast through the speakers. Paul, as always, manages to build the audience to a frenzy just prior to him taking the stage. In the dark the audience goes wild as they see the silhouettes of the band members walking to their spots and goes even wilder and louder as they first see Paul. Paul counts "1, 2, 3, 4" and the band plows into "Loop, the First Indian on the Moon". He then follows with "Mary Had a Little Lamb", "Big Bop", and "I'm Carrying." Then he comes to his John, George, and Linda tribute and does "Attica", "It is He", and "Cook of the House" . . .
A stunning show for all ;D
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 21, 2009 11:15:43 GMT -5
I remember on the old thread we were, as always, discussing Paul's set list. As a joke, I wrote about this Earth shattering set list (my memory will only be able to write a partial and merely conceptual recreation that will make my point). The lights go off. Video projections and sound collages blast through the speakers. Paul, as always, manages to build the audience to a frenzy just prior to him taking the stage. In the dark the audience goes wild as they see the silhouettes of the band members walking to their spots and goes even wilder and louder as they first see Paul. Paul counts "1, 2, 3, 4" and the band plows into "Loop, the First Indian on the Moon". He then follows with "Mary Had a Little Lamb", "Big Bop", and "I'm Carrying." Then he comes to his John, George, and Linda tribute and does "Attica", "It is He", and "Cook of the House" . . . A stunning show for all ;D LOL! Yeah, even I, the biggest Macca setlist crybaby, would not like that line-up. Least Favorite Macca Song: Tie: "The Other Me" and "Mr. Bellamy." A "dustbin lid?" Who cares if boring old Bellamy ever comes down although I have a theory on who Mr. Bellamy really is and why he won't come down from the roof or tree! He was cellmates at a horrible state mental institution with Maxwell Edison, who had once majored in medicine, and Bellamy, younger than Maxwell, had heard and learned by memory all of Dr. Edison's murderous deeds. He now spends his days repeating those bloody deeds out-loud if only to himself. Hmm, I like my theory about this song better than what Paul probably had in mind! ;D Honorable Mention: Songs where Paul makes funny voices like "Famous Groupies." Exception: "The Pound Is Sinking" and "Rockshow." Least Favorite Macca Album: Give My Regards To Broadstreet and if we are not counting that one then Pipes Of Peace although I think the songs with Michael Jackson are a highlight along with "Through Our Love."
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Post by mikev on Jul 21, 2009 11:29:17 GMT -5
I remember on the old thread we were, as always, discussing Paul's set list. As a joke, I wrote about this Earth shattering set list (my memory will only be able to write a partial and merely conceptual recreation that will make my point). The lights go off. Video projections and sound collages blast through the speakers. Paul, as always, manages to build the audience to a frenzy just prior to him taking the stage. In the dark the audience goes wild as they see the silhouettes of the band members walking to their spots and goes even wilder and louder as they first see Paul. Paul counts "1, 2, 3, 4" and the band plows into "Loop, the First Indian on the Moon". He then follows with "Mary Had a Little Lamb", "Big Bop", and "I'm Carrying." Then he comes to his John, George, and Linda tribute and does "Attica", "It is He", and "Cook of the House" . . . A stunning show for all ;D ;D "Cahoookk of the Houssssseeeeee" George Harrison was quoted in the late 70s as enjoying I'm Carrying.
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Jul 21, 2009 12:15:02 GMT -5
"Mull Of Kintyre" is great. I'm astounded it would be listed as a worst song. It always inspires me. We hardly ever heard it here in the US.
Back on topic: Worst Song: "Bip Bop" Worst Album: DRIVING RAIN
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Post by Beatle Bob on Jul 21, 2009 14:02:15 GMT -5
Oh this is easy. Hands down worst album: A tie - WILD LIFE and McCARTNEY 2 Worst Song: A Tie - Bip Bop and Waterfalls How about worst album cover?-- DRIVING RAIN (the slipcase issued after it's released was much better) Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by mikev on Jul 21, 2009 14:25:36 GMT -5
worst lyric sub-category: 1-2-3-4-5 let's go for a drive. Light years of difference between that and 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 All good children go to heaven. Can't explain it-just a huge diffference.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 21, 2009 15:30:30 GMT -5
Oh this is easy. Hands down worst album: A tie - WILD LIFE and McCARTNEY 2 Worst Song: A Tie - Bip Bop and Waterfalls How about worst album cover?-- DRIVING RAIN (the slipcase issued after it's released was much better) Regards, Beatle Bob Beatle Bob, Wings Wild Life worst(well, I guess you did call a tie)!? Really? ;D Jump in your automobile on a sunny day, head to the country, roll down the windows and crank Wild Life. Friendly people will waive at you, birds will chirp, your blood pressure will be at it's healthiest and all will be good. I challenge you! And "Waterfalls" as the worst song!? Oh dear. This is one of those hidden gems in my opinion. I feel faint.
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Post by secretfriend on Jul 21, 2009 16:07:22 GMT -5
I've never cared for "Wings at the Speed of Sound", although there are a few good tracks on there. However, I'd take that LP over "Driving Rain" any day. Worst song? It's a 3-way tie between "Walking in the Park with Eloise", "Zoo Gang" and "My Carnival".
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Post by Beatle Bob on Jul 21, 2009 18:55:09 GMT -5
Oh this is easy. Hands down worst album: A tie - WILD LIFE and McCARTNEY 2 Worst Song: A Tie - Bip Bop and Waterfalls How about worst album cover?-- DRIVING RAIN (the slipcase issued after it's released was much better) Regards, Beatle Bob Beatle Bob, Wings Wild Life worst(well, I guess you did call a tie)!? Really? ;D Jump in your automobile on a sunny day, head to the country, roll down the windows and crank Wild Life. Friendly people will waive at you, birds will chirp, your blood pressure will be at it's healthiest and all will be good. I challenge you! And "Waterfalls" as the worst song!? Oh dear. This is one of those hidden gems in my opinion. I feel faint. Sorry John. Let me get you some water "Waterfalls" grates on my nerves. Whinny, slow and just dreadful. The melody should be used for funeral processions. WILDLIFE. Paul should have released that under a pseudonym such as FIREDMAN Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by theman on Jul 21, 2009 23:18:06 GMT -5
I'm usually put off by Paul's falsetto songs, so...
My worst song is probably a tie between "Distractions" and "Footprints". However, I do like "Girlfriend" .
Driving Rain is my least favorite album. Not that I have any kind of big hate towards it (I'm one of the few here that like the song "Driving Rain"). It's just his album that I'm least likely to pull out of the rack anymore.
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Post by nine on Jul 22, 2009 7:47:04 GMT -5
It always amazes me that my fave Macca songs aren't everybody else's. How could you not love Wild Life and McCartney II? How could you like Through Our Love, Your Loving Flame, C'Mon People, However ABsurd and all that pompous nonsense?
Hmmm.... I think The Other Me - even with its Cockney rhyming slang - is very cool indeed. I like Morse Moose too. I like Dragon Fly and Only One More Kiss. I like Mull Of Kintyre and Sally G. I hate Ebony and Ivory, I love Temporary Secretary. Love Footprints, hate Once Upon A long Ago. I love Closer and Old Siam Sir and Figure Of Eight and Ever Present Past and Mama's Little Girl.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 22, 2009 12:03:11 GMT -5
It always amazes me that my fave Macca songs aren't everybody else's. How could you not love Wild Life and McCartney II? How could you like Through Our Love, Your Loving Flame, C'Mon People, However ABsurd and all that pompous nonsense? LOL! I love that last group of songs you slam! I bet you would also add "Motor of Love" to the latter as I love that one too. While we are at it, how about "Wine Dark Open Sea," another JSD favorite? ;D
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Post by scousette on Jul 22, 2009 12:06:10 GMT -5
I remember on the old thread we were, as always, discussing Paul's set list. As a joke, I wrote about this Earth shattering set list (my memory will only be able to write a partial and merely conceptual recreation that will make my point). The lights go off. Video projections and sound collages blast through the speakers. Paul, as always, manages to build the audience to a frenzy just prior to him taking the stage. In the dark the audience goes wild as they see the silhouettes of the band members walking to their spots and goes even wilder and louder as they first see Paul. Paul counts "1, 2, 3, 4" and the band plows into "Loop, the First Indian on the Moon". He then follows with "Mary Had a Little Lamb", "Big Bop", and "I'm Carrying." Then he comes to his John, George, and Linda tribute and does "Attica", "It is He", and "Cook of the House" . . . A stunning show for all ;D ;D
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Post by ursamajor on Jul 22, 2009 20:43:14 GMT -5
No way is Driving Rain Paul's worst album, you have got to be kidding me.
Paul's worst album by far has to be McCartney II. When they call it experimental it means it's crap.
Worst song is a tie between Temporary Secretary, Nobody Knows, Front Parlour, Summer's Day Song, Bogey Music and Dark Room.
Ewwwww !!!
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Post by jimc on Jul 22, 2009 23:47:25 GMT -5
McCartney II has slowly revealed its charms over the years. I think it's a good record. I'd take it any day over SOS. "Summer's Day Song"? One of my top 25 Macca tracks, easily.
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Post by secretfriend on Jul 23, 2009 0:55:13 GMT -5
I love McCartney II, but I realize it's not for everyone. Coming Up (studio version) is my all time favorite Macca song. The video is brilliant. I also think Bogy Music and Nobody Knows are fun. I love the bluesy "On the Way". Summers Day Song is a haunting, sweet song. I especially love "Secret Friend" from the McCartney II sessions (even used it as my board name)
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Post by ursamajor on Jul 23, 2009 1:01:05 GMT -5
I love McCartney II, but I realize it's not for everyone. Coming Up (studio version) is my all time favorite Macca song. The video is brilliant. I also think Bogy Music and Nobody Knows are fun. I love the bluesy "On the Way". Summers Day Song is a haunting, sweet song. I especially love "Secret Friend" from the McCartney II sessions (even used it as my board name) Secret Friend is good, he should have put that and Check My Machine on it instead of Front Parlour and other horrendous songs. Coming Up, Waterfalls, On the Way and One of These Days are good but everything else is of a very low standard imo.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 23, 2009 5:34:59 GMT -5
I love McCartney II, but I realize it's not for everyone. Coming Up (studio version) is my all time favorite Macca song. The video is brilliant. I also think Bogy Music and Nobody Knows are fun. I love the bluesy "On the Way". Summers Day Song is a haunting, sweet song. I especially love "Secret Friend" from the McCartney II sessions (even used it as my board name) I love McCARTNEY II as well, and some of that is because it came out right before I graduated high school in 1980, so I have fond memories of that period through the music. When anyone says some of the music is "not up to standard", I always have to laugh and say "well, no shit -- it's an EXPERIMENTAL ALBUM!"[/i] You aren't supposed to expect tracks like Check My Machine, Frozen Jap, or Temporary Secretary to be on par with Wanderlust, Band on the Run, or My Love!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 23, 2009 5:50:10 GMT -5
No way is Driving Rain Paul's worst album, you have got to be kidding me. No, I'm really not kidding you. It is truly a pile of mediocre crap without a single "good" song off it (MACCA II at least has Coming Up, Waterfalls, and One of These Days). And by the way -- the underwhelming PRESS TO PLAY is not very far off from the bottom of Paul's album list. No, it means it's not done traditionally, and that different sounds or technological adventures are being tried. ELECTRIC ARGUMENTS may also be called "experimental" ... is it crap too?
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Post by mikev on Jul 23, 2009 8:42:12 GMT -5
I love McCartney II, but I realize it's not for everyone. Coming Up (studio version) is my all time favorite Macca song. The video is brilliant. I also think Bogy Music and Nobody Knows are fun. I love the bluesy "On the Way". Summers Day Song is a haunting, sweet song. I especially love "Secret Friend" from the McCartney II sessions (even used it as my board name) I've always hated both versions of Coming Up, but I can listen to it over time as it was his last non duet no.1 song (and I really enjoyed the video).
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Post by ursamajor on Jul 23, 2009 9:40:31 GMT -5
No, I'm really not kidding you. It is truly a pile of mediocre crap without a single "good" song off it (MACCA II at least has Coming Up, Waterfalls, and One of These Days). And by the way -- the underwhelming PRESS TO PLAY is not very far off from the bottom of Paul's album list. If you think that Driving Rain has not one single good song on it then you are either tone deaf or just trying to get some attention by being faux controversial. Are you for real ? How can you compare Macca II with Electric Arguments. If Macca II is an experimental album then release it under Percy Thrills. But it wasn't. After the fact we get the whole fooling around with synthesizers excuses from Paul. He's lucky there were four good songs on it.
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Post by Beatle Bob on Jul 23, 2009 10:34:49 GMT -5
I love McCartney II, but I realize it's not for everyone. Coming Up (studio version) is my all time favorite Macca song. The video is brilliant. I also think Bogy Music and Nobody Knows are fun. I love the bluesy "On the Way". Summers Day Song is a haunting, sweet song. I especially love "Secret Friend" from the McCartney II sessions (even used it as my board name) Interesting as you pick the same songs I find that are salvageable from McCartney 2. Even when there isn't a "great" McCartney album issued, he always has about 6 - 8 very good to excellent songs that I'll come back to. I find his problem is that he's not good at editing himself and has always had to many "yes men" around. I think the best producer in years was Nigel Godrich, who helped produce his best modern album, Chaos and Creation In The Backyard. For once there isn't one clunker or track that you find necessary to skip! Paul even admits he'd tell him when something wasn't working or wasn't up to par. Like what George Martin did to Paul when he presented his "Rude Studio Demos" that eventually became Tug Of War-- George told him what he didn't like and made him go back and revise some songs. Paul was taken aback, but you know what resulted....? A classic album! Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 23, 2009 13:26:46 GMT -5
No, I'm really not kidding you. It is truly a pile of mediocre crap without a single "good" song off it (MACCA II at least has Coming Up, Waterfalls, and One of These Days). And by the way -- the underwhelming PRESS TO PLAY is not very far off from the bottom of Paul's album list. If you think that Driving Rain has not one single good song on it then you are either tone deaf or just trying to get some attention by being faux controversial. Are you for real ? How can you compare Macca II with Electric Arguments. If Macca II is an experimental album then release it under Percy Thrills. But it wasn't. After the fact we get the whole fooling around with synthesizers excuses from Paul. He's lucky there were four good songs on it. Come on ursamajor, you can disagree with Joe entirely but to question the sincerity of his opinions or suggest that he has something wrong to prevent him from enjoying an album is getting personal and is going to lead us into firefights. I strongly disagree with Joe on Driving Rain but I know that he is totally sincere in that belief. Others here have strongly condemned that album. I personally love it and did from the very first listen which is rare for me on a Macca record. Joe once lead(and I think started) the really fun Survivor tourneys on the old Board and he singlehandedly changed my mind on Macca II because I bought it the day it came out, played it, was horrified because I was use to everything else Paul had ever done and this didn't sound like that(at first blush) and never played it again. I had to play it years later in order to intelligently vote in Survivor and I totally got into it one summer's night, listening to it in my backyard with a chest of beer next to me. Sure, I still can't totally get into some of the instrumentals but there are some lovely, even great, songs there that I had missed for 20 plus years. Maybe Joe's mind and others can be changed on Driving Rain. It is more fun to re-discover an album than to not ever like it or grow sick of it!
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Post by sayne on Jul 23, 2009 15:56:38 GMT -5
[quote author=jsd board=paul thread=1162 post=11777 time=1248373606
. . . listening to it in my backyard with a chest of beer next to me. [/quote]
I think this is the 2nd or 3rd time in the last week or so that you've said something like this followed by a statement about enjoying an album. Maybe it's the beer. I'm just sayin' ;D
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 23, 2009 16:42:42 GMT -5
[quote author=jsd board=paul thread=1162 post=11777 time=1248373606 . . . listening to it in my backyard with a chest of beer next to me. I think this is the 2nd or 3rd time in the last week or so that you've said something like this followed by a statement about enjoying an album. Maybe it's the beer. I'm just sayin' ;D[/quote] Good point. I need to take my beer and my one or two Radiohead c.d.'s outside to the garden to see if I have a breakthrough there!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 23, 2009 17:16:34 GMT -5
If you think that Driving Rain has not one single good song on it then you are either tone deaf or just trying to get some attention by being faux controversial. JSD said it all for me already (thanks, JSD) but I'll add here that there is nothing "controversial" in my hating DRIVING RAIN. Because generally speaking, most people also don't seem to care for it, so I'm just one among many. How's that controversial? If I'd said I didn't like REVOLVER -- now, that's controversial (and there's nothing "faux" about anything I write when it comes to opinions). That's already 4 songs better than DRIVING RAIN! ;D And I believe MACCA II was indeed an experimental album initially. Paul didn't just come up with this as an excuse "after the fact"; in the album itself it's written how it was primitively recorded. And he didn't need to come up with any excuses, as I believe the album still did well in the U.S., peaking at Position 2. If you ever heard the rough unreleased 2-disc set for McCARTNEY II (and of course I'd never expect you to bother since you hate the regular release) you'd realize that this was what we might very aptly label Paul's "Earliest Fireman Stuff". Paul might very well have used a different name on such a project had it been done in recent years; but at the time, he wasn't calling himself 'The Fireman'. But if you think about it, naming the album "McCARTNEY II" for its time, that was about as "offbeat" as Paul got with primitive experimental titles back in the day (spinning off from the offbeat McCARTNEY I ) .
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