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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 8, 2009 2:34:20 GMT -5
Now, I have heard several of the mono and stereo remasters (Revolver, Pepper, MMT, White, and that era's singles). Yes: I know it's not Wednesday yet, but there are ways. And I have not been listening to compressed mp3s: I am talking about full, uncompressed tracks.
As we all are, I'm very familiar with the "1987" CDs. I am also very familiar with the above albums in mono, owning several on vinyl, and having all the Ebbetts mono pirates.
When I played the mono remasters (Revolver etc as listed above), I thought: yes, very good, but not a great leap up from what my ears already knew. Yes, a "little leap", not a great one. Those reviewers raving about the mono albums - maybe they have not heard them before!
But I was blown away by how absolutely superb the STEREO remasters of these albums were. I have very good sound gear, but I have never heard the Beatles sounding this good, ever. The stereo image, the clean crisp sounds, oh! - everything about these STEREO remasters is outstanding.
I have a mono box set waiting for me tomorrow, and I can't wait to get my hands on it ... but while at the shop, I might just pick up the stereo box set as well. Downloading is all very well - but if the product is good, I'll buy it.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 8, 2009 9:22:30 GMT -5
Okay, if Joseph McCabe, a man of logic and cool reserve, is excited about the stereo remasters, then I am now officially giddy like a school child!
I fear amazon.com is toying with me on delivery of the stereo box but that is another story altogether. We will see if it is delivered tomorrow as promised for weeks now.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 8, 2009 10:18:48 GMT -5
I am a Beatles' fan starting in the 1970's so I was used to stereo recordings before hooking up with the Fabs. I don't have any pre-conceived fondness for mono like the older fans do. I am finally getting excited, however, about the release of the remastered mono recordings and I am glad that Mr. McCabe finds improvement there too, if not as dramatic as on stereo. Question: Will the 2009 mono's of Please Please Me, With The Beatles, A Hard Day's Night, and Beatles For Sale sound better than the 1987 mono's or are they the same? We have talked about people at least keeping those of the 1987 batch because they are in mono. I thought that they were being improved too but from the varied discussions I am not sure now. I suppose there could still be "drop-outs" on the 1987 mono versions that could be fixed now with the advancement of technology, such drop-out as exists on the song "Please Please Me" that I first learned about on the B.B.C. radio show about George Martin. If the first four Beatles' albums are being improved in mono re the 2009 versions, than it is not as simple as saying keep the first four 1987 c.d.'s because then you have them in mono. Does someone want to re-link us here to the most concise, thorough and accurate article on the stereo and mono remasters that has previously been posted simply for ease in reference?
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 8, 2009 15:46:25 GMT -5
I had a listen to a couple of mono tracks from With The Beatles and AHDN, last night. They weren't real careful listens, as I'm getting a bit Beatled out if that's possible! My feeling was the new monos are better: more presence, cleaner, crisper. Certainly, for Revolver, Pepper, MMT & White Album, the mono is excellent quality. As I said before, better than what I'm used to from vinyl, Ebbetts etc, but not a huge leap in quality.
Since I posted yesterday evening, I played Revolver and parts of Pepper in STEREO for the family. I made them sit down in front of the speakers, settle comfortably, and be prepared.
Since they live with me, all the family know the Beatles' music well. So what did they think? Comments ranged :
*the bass is brilliantly clear - all instruments are, but everyone commented on the new level of bass in Beatle music. Yes! *the vocals are excellent; the harmony singing was especially mentioned *the music has much more presence. One said, 'They are still not live in the room, but I can feel their "vibe" more than ever. '
McCabe
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 8, 2009 16:42:46 GMT -5
I had a listen to a couple of mono tracks from With The Beatles and AHDN, last night. They weren't real careful listens, as I'm getting a bit Beatled out if that's possible! My feeling was the new monos are better: more presence, cleaner, crisper. Certainly, for Revolver, Pepper, MMT & White Album, the mono is excellent quality. As I said before, better than what I'm used to from vinyl, Ebbetts etc, but not a huge leap in quality. Though we don't agree often, listening to your comparisons about "Stereo vs. Mono" have pretty much convinced me to go for the STEREO.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 8, 2009 17:32:49 GMT -5
Though we don't agree often, listening to your comparisons about "Stereo vs. Mono" have pretty much convinced me to go for the STEREO. Get both! I've ordered the mono box (picking it up this afternoon: I rang yesterday, and it's there!). But after listening to the downloaded stereo stuff, I'm going to get the stereo box also. Joe, I urge you to get the mono box as well as the stereo. Folks, BOTH are essential! Honestly everyone, I feel as if I've rediscovered the Beatles. I'm not going to gorge myself: I'm going to rediscover each "era" slowly, prolonging the pleasure ....!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 8, 2009 18:22:29 GMT -5
Get both! I've ordered the mono box (picking it up this afternoon: I rang yesterday, and it's there!). But after listening to the downloaded stereo stuff, I'm going to get the stereo box also. Joe, I urge you to get the mono box as well as the stereo. Folks, BOTH are essential! See, the thing is I guess I'm not just that "completist" I always was when I was younger, so much younger than today. Back then I used to buy all the Japanese imports, and every other kind of vinyl variant, just to have every different version I could get my hands on. I also had more expendable income back in those years. I used to get a kick out of stuff like The Mono White Album, but now I don't feel I'll play it much. And that's another thing. These days I tend to play my solo CDs more than The Beatles! When I was a teen, before there were VCRs and DVDs, I used to come home from school or work and put an ALBUM on to relax with. I would approach each separate album as a unique piece of work to be savored. Nowadays I am much more likely to throw on a CD in the car, or while I'm on the computer ... and I don't really "treasure" it like I did in those pre-VHS/DVD days (now I prefer to watch a movie). So I don't even play The Beatles much anymore. And believe it or not, when I DO, it tends to be the U.S. CAPITOL VERSIONS! After so many years growing and shunning those American versions, now I find myself comfortable with them most of all. Do I need BOTH the Stereo and Mono versions of these albums? Not really for me, I don't think so. If each and every CD was available individually I'd probably cherry pick whatever ones I wanted in this or that format. Plus, I've already got the early discs in MONO from 1987 (inferior though they'll be) and I have STEREO and MONO versions on the Capitols. And after all of this writing, I'm STILL not sure what I'm doing tomorrow. But it'll have to be after work at about 5pm, and I'll be going to Best Buy as it turns out. I will probably either buy the entire STEREO SET or I'll pick several individual STEREO CDs to start out with. Then again, there is always my BEST BUY CREDIT CARD!!! (though it's almost paid off now!!) ;D Maybe I CAN get both!
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Post by OldFred on Sept 8, 2009 18:41:50 GMT -5
Get both! I've ordered the mono box (picking it up this afternoon: I rang yesterday, and it's there!). But after listening to the downloaded stereo stuff, I'm going to get the stereo box also. Joe, I urge you to get the mono box as well as the stereo. Folks, BOTH are essential! See, the thing is I guess I'm not just that "completist" I always was when I was younger, so much younger than today. Back then I used to buy all the Japanese imports, and every other kind of vinyl variant, just to have every different version I could get my hands on. I also had more expendable income back in those years. I used to get a kick out of stuff like The Mono White Album, but now I don't feel I'll play it much. And that's another thing. These days I tend to play my solo CDs more than The Beatles! When I was a teen, before there were VCRs and DVDs, I used to come home from school or work and put an ALBUM on to relax with. I would approach each separate album as a unique piece of work to be savored. Nowadays I am much more likely to throw on a CD in the car, or while I'm on the computer ... and I don't really "treasure" it like I did in those pre-VHS/DVD days (now I prefer to watch a movie). So I don't even play The Beatles much anymore. And believe it or not, when I DO, it tends to be the U.S. CAPITOL VERSIONS! After so many years growing and shunning those American versions, now I find myself comfortable with them most of all. Do I need BOTH the Stereo and Mono versions of these albums? Not really for me, I don't think so. If each and every CD was available individually I'd probably cherry pick whatever ones I wanted in this or that format. Plus, I've already got the early discs in MONO from 1987 (inferior though they'll be) and I have STEREO and MONO versions on the Capitols. And after all of this writing, I'm STILL not sure what I'm doing tomorrow. But it'll have to be after work at about 5pm, and I'll be going to Best Buy as it turns out. I will probably either buy the entire STEREO SET or I'll pick several individual STEREO CDs to start out with. Then again, there is always my BEST BUY CREDIT CARD!!! (though it's almost paid off now!!) ;D Maybe I CAN get both! I know what you mean, Joe. For financial reasons, I'm going to stick with just the stereo box. The mono one would be nice, but at the moment, NOT financially essential for me. Plus, I already have the mono Sgt. Pepper on vinyl, and that will suffice for me. (But, I wouldn't mind a mono box as a gift for my Birthday in October, or Christmas! Nudge Nudge, Wink Wink, Say No More! ;D)
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Post by winstonoboogie on Sept 8, 2009 20:13:16 GMT -5
Okay, if Joseph McCabe, a man of logic and cool reserve, is excited about the stereo remasters, then I am now officially giddy like a school child!
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 8, 2009 20:23:19 GMT -5
I was able to pick up a few titles at Wal-Mart tonight ( Abbey Road, White Album, Pepper, Past Masters) which are my intended "fill-in" CDs to round out the mono box I'll hopefully be able to pick up tomorrow--and sampled a few tracks so far. Right now every review I've read is spot on and I can't find fault with the remastering at all. Incredible sonics throughout. The bass is improved everywhere. Detail unlike I've every heard before. Guitars on Pepper lash out. Paul's vocals on You Never Give Me Your Money feel as if he's in the room with you. There is more to hear in the crowd noises on Pepper. It's a noisy crowd! While My Guitar Gently Weeps has an underlying density that I've never been aware of. Because feels like you're sitting there in Carnegie Hall with a choir. Ringo benefits most from the remasters. The most striking difference is the drums. They kick-ass like never before. The band feels like it rocks harder on each CD sampled. All without the benefit of being a remixed project. Like one review said, it's like lifting a mask off the recording you never knew was there. I'll be spending many hours with the remasters. Oh yeah, I do like the packaging too Regards, Beatle Bob _________________
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 8, 2009 20:46:41 GMT -5
I was able to pick up a few titles at Wal-Mart tonight ( Abbey Road, White Album, Pepper, Past Masters) which are my intended "fill-in" CDs to round out the mono box I'll hopefully be able to pick up tomorrow--and sampled a few tracks so far. Right now every review I've read is spot on and I can't find fault with the remastering at all. Incredible sonics throughout. The bass is improved everywhere. Detail unlike I've every heard before. Guitars on Pepper lash out. Paul's vocals on You Never Give Me Your Money feel as if he's in the room with you. There is more to hear in the crowd noises on Pepper. It's a noisy crowd! While My Guitar Gently Weeps has an underlying density that I've never been aware of. Because feels like you're sitting there in Carnegie Hall with a choir. Ringo benefits most from the remasters. The most striking difference is the drums. They kick-ass like never before. The band feels like it rocks harder on each CD sampled. All without the benefit of being a remixed project. Like one review said, it's like lifting a mask off the recording you never knew was there. I'll be spending many hours with the remasters. Oh yeah, I do like the packaging too Regards, Beatle Bob _________________ My mouth literally dropped when I heard the remastered "Abbey Road" drum solo for the first time. It was that much better.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Sept 8, 2009 21:19:11 GMT -5
I was able to pick up a few titles at Wal-Mart tonight ( Abbey Road, White Album, Pepper, Past Masters) which are my intended "fill-in" CDs to round out the mono box I'll hopefully be able to pick up tomorrow--and sampled a few tracks so far. Right now every review I've read is spot on and I can't find fault with the remastering at all. Incredible sonics throughout. The bass is improved everywhere. Detail unlike I've every heard before. Guitars on Pepper lash out. Paul's vocals on You Never Give Me Your Money feel as if he's in the room with you. There is more to hear in the crowd noises on Pepper. It's a noisy crowd! While My Guitar Gently Weeps has an underlying density that I've never been aware of. Because feels like you're sitting there in Carnegie Hall with a choir. Ringo benefits most from the remasters. The most striking difference is the drums. They kick-ass like never before. The band feels like it rocks harder on each CD sampled. All without the benefit of being a remixed project. Like one review said, it's like lifting a mask off the recording you never knew was there. I'll be spending many hours with the remasters. Oh yeah, I do like the packaging too Regards, Beatle Bob _________________ wow! More high praise, from one of the premier audiophiles of the board! We're getting Rock Band tomorrow (hopefully!) so the remasters will have to wait. But Christmas is coming....
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 8, 2009 22:43:35 GMT -5
I am now playing mono SPLHCB. These c.d.'s are wonderfully and carefully packaged. Oh by the way, the back of the Mono box is white too and it is an insert with all the helpful info. I am sticking it in the box. Out of the first three songs, Sgt. Pepper's stabbing guitars are awesome and I'm hearing little licks at the end of the song I am not sure I've ever noticed before and "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" is brilliant, powerful, knocks me out of my chair and as I wrote, I am younger so mono has never been my thing. Oh wow, "Getting Better is great, the opening guitar bit is alive! So far only "With A Little Help From My Friends" hasn't jumped out at me. "Fixing A Hole" is good too, the intro in particular. I am clearly telling a difference in Paul's vocal on "She's Leaving Home" mono than the more common stereo version. The strings have a bite to them, man very good! Hey, I'm signing off to enjoy this first listen. Posting while listening to these remasters for the first time is like posting while making love with a new lover, very distracting! ;D Whoa, one last thing, the swirling carnival noises in "Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite" are clearly different and cool! Again, I have mono Pepper on bootleg but haven't played it much. Folks, this SPLHCB mono disc is a big winner... hey wait a minute, they've put the "Tomorrow Never Knows" drums on "Within You Without You!?" WTF!? Just kidding! The laughter at the end of George's song is more pronounced, another cool difference
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 8, 2009 23:02:25 GMT -5
SPLHCB Mono Part 2"When I'm Sixty-Four" is good, a nice full sound. "Lovely Rita" was exciting, the bass really jumping out, our ChuckE will be excited. "Good Morning Good Morning" is good, again a very full, powerful sound what with the horns and Ringo's ferocious drumming. But as noted by another poster on another Thread, the rooster clucking is weird and there is talking I've never heard right before the count-in to Sgt. Pepper Reprise which is a real highlight to the whole album. It is full, powerful and packs a punch! It is great and at the end, right before "A Day In The Like," Paul goes nuts, yelling like a carnival barker! I have never, ever heard that, it kind of reminds me of the song MMT! A nice touch, consistent with the original theme of the album. "A Day In The Life" is good and man, the bass really comes alive but this is one song where my prejudice for stereo may limit my praise: mono ADITL as remastered is very, very good but I can't wait until I hear the remastered stereo version! Whew, that was good. I am a mono Pepper fan now!
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 8, 2009 23:12:06 GMT -5
Wow, at least with the Mono Box, the discs themselves are stored in plastic sleeves but included is a replica of the paper dust covers as Pepper's is that psychedelic dust sleeve we all know was used and Rubber Soul has the white dust sleeve with the center hole and it warns, "Important-Take good care of your Microgroove Records Check Your Gramophone Stylus Regularly...."
What a hoot, I bet for guys like vectis that brings back memories!
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Post by ursamajor on Sept 8, 2009 23:33:52 GMT -5
I picked up the stereo Revolver, Abbey Road and Let It Be and I've started listening to Revolver. I am abit disappointed, I can hear some improvement but not that much. Taxman, I'm Only Sleeping and And Your Bird Can Sing sound alot better to me but the others I didn't notice so much of a difference. I think the Yellow Submarine Songtrack has kind of spoilt me into thinking these songs would sound so good. On Eleanor Rigby the vocal was abit more centred on the YSS but here it is back to the left channel. I have to agree that the biggest improvement has been the bass so far. It it clear, clear and crisp.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 9, 2009 0:28:16 GMT -5
Okay, I have just about completed the 1965 stereo mix for Rubber Soul and I am floored, stunned and in rapture.
Sure it is vocals one side, drums and guitars on the other side but it is absolutely beautiful. Paul was in my living room on "Michelle" as John is on "Girl." John forgot to wipe his feet at the door!
Sorry but I may never play the 1987 George Martin stereo mix again. The 1965 stereo mix is warmer and more intimate IMO. Maybe Sir George wanted to get an 80's sound in '87?
For crying out loud, "What Goes On" sounds fantastic, the choppy guitar licks and all. That is pure magic at remastering to make one of the lesser Beatles's songs sound interesting and indeed vital.
As others have noted, the bass comes alive giving the songs depth.
Apple sure did it right by giving us the 1965 stereo mixes of Help! and Rubber Soul.
I hear a big improvement to Rubber Soul over the 1987 c.d. and I don't mean just because of the particular stereo mix. Everything is better. Hell, John is snarling at me on "Run For Your Life."
I can't wait to hear more but I am mindful of Joseph McCabe's warning of not getting "Beatled-out" right off the bat.
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 9, 2009 1:29:37 GMT -5
This is great hearing so much praise for the Remasters. I have the Mono Box on the way(and will be getting some of the Stereos Tomorrow). You guys were lucky to get some of these before 9-9-9. I tried but had no luck!! I agree with Joseph..Get them all and you'll have no complaints. Happy Listening Everyone!!
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 9, 2009 2:05:40 GMT -5
So here I am, at home now, and pleased that I got both boxes. The mono I had ordered already, and I was not going to get the stereo box right off. However, after I had listened to some of the stereo albums that I had downloaded, I decided that I must have the stereo albums also.
I listened to Pepper and Revolver in stereo, loud, before I left for work this morning. I say to everyone, it is like hearing the music for the first time again. So much detail, breadth AND depth. I am overwhelmed. Tomorrow is White Album day MONO and STEREO, as I have a rostered day off (except - damn! - for two hours in the morning).
McCabe
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 9, 2009 5:22:34 GMT -5
While driving in my car last night I played the STEREO discs for RUBBER SOUL, REVOLVER, and SGT PEPPER. Is the sound quality greatly improved? Yes. Is it louder and more vibrant? Without question. But did I hear anything so different that I'd never heard before? Honestly, NO. Which is getting me to think it's not really "as" big a deal as I thought.
My local Best Buy opens this morning in 4 hours, and I was thinking of having my wife get there while I'm at work to try and snag me a MONO box set. But after hearing the three STEREO albums last night, what is it exactly that I hope to "discover" by acquiring both versions of every album? Sure, I'm aware of the slight differences in some cases for the MONO versions, but am I really going to take these off my shelves very often?
Oh, and a question -- on RUBBER SOUL there is no "false start" to I'M LOOKING THROUGH YOU. I thought it was the STEREO version which had this false start? Could it be that even with both the MONO and STEREO editions of RS, people still won't be getting it?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 9, 2009 5:27:12 GMT -5
I picked up the stereo Revolver, Abbey Road and Let It Be and I've started listening to Revolver. I am abit disappointed, I can hear some improvement but not that much. Taxman, I'm Only Sleeping and And Your Bird Can Sing sound alot better to me but the others I didn't notice so much of a difference. I think the Yellow Submarine Songtrack has kind of spoilt me into thinking these songs would sound so good. On Eleanor Rigby the vocal was abit more centred on the YSS but here it is back to the left channel. I have to agree that the biggest improvement has been the bass so far. It it clear, clear and crisp. That's what I'm saying. I noticed much more of a difference with that YSS disc, and I agree completely about ELEANOR RIGBY ... I prefer the vocal more centered, not with Paul's voice suddenly disappearing off to one side. I hate the same thing with the "Love, Love, Love" intro to ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE. It's for individual reasons like this that I reconsider and think about getting the MONO set after all... but it's really a matter of just picking individual tracks here and there as to which version I prefer.
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Post by cheerdown67 on Sept 9, 2009 6:33:38 GMT -5
I'm going to get the stereo box today-i worked labor day so i could take today off; i am like a liitle child except i'm 42 and i all i wanna do is.....boogaloo...wish i could get the mono, but that will have to wait, if any are left; but as an 80's child, I only knew the stereo versions; in fact i was so disapointed that the 1st four were in mono upon 1st CD release...i always remember my mom's vinyl in stereo sounding much better-stereo seperation and all...
i do have an honest question-wasn't mono designed to be listened to on cheaper turntables at the time-like the ones with one built in speaker, correct me if i'm wrong, but how could something that sounded like it was built for a cheap sound system sound good on the high end speakers we have nowadays..
.I am interested in the mono, for sake of comparison, and stereo for pleasure....but wish they had included both on the discs like they did with capitol versions...all the early albums could have fit both easily...the latter ones could have been expanded out to 2 discs-one stereo and mono-everything could have been neatly put together on a deluxe box for the fans that wanted both...and a cheaper stereo only package could have been put together for the rest of us...
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 9, 2009 6:50:20 GMT -5
While driving in my car last night I played the STEREO discs for RUBBER SOUL, REVOLVER, and SGT PEPPER. Is the sound quality greatly improved? Yes. Is it louder and more vibrant? Without question. But did I hear anything so different that I'd never heard before? Honestly, NO. Which is getting me to think it's not really "as" big a deal as I thought. I think the reason for your disappointment lies in your opening statement: "While driving in my car ..." A car is a very poor acoustic environment. If you want to hear detail and subtle nuances, don't listen in a car! The better your sound gear, and your listening environment, the more you'll get out of the music.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 9, 2009 16:46:28 GMT -5
I think the reason for your disappointment lies in your opening statement: "While driving in my car ..." A car is a very poor acoustic environment. If you want to hear detail and subtle nuances, don't listen in a car! The better your sound gear, and your listening environment, the more you'll get out of the music. But I just listened to the STEREO remaster of MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR in my car and it blew me away! ;D Everyone's got different opinions, and the way the music sounds in my car is optimum, believe it or not - it's a great system. Sounds better listening to CDs in there than anywhere in my home. Seriously.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 9, 2009 17:01:57 GMT -5
Okay, now I've got all of the STEREO releases -- that is, all except for the new Yellow Submarine (I figure the remix from 1999 CD will suit me fine; I like that one). I went to Best Buy after work and bought them individually, placing them on my BB credit card. I just couldn't pass up the price - $12.99 each, and $16.99 for The WHite Album.
So after all's said and done, I did wind up getting both the STEREO and MONO versions. I haven't heard any MONO albums yet, but as I listen to the STEREO ones here on the computer, I think I would have been perfectly satisfied just having the Stereo versions!
It was GREAT going into Best Buy today; there was an aura of Beatlemania all around! People flocking the displays, choosing which albums they wanted to purchase (the box sets had been sold out). Nothing but Beatles music was on the store stereo system, I think they're having an all-day Beatles Marathon on one of the local radio stations.
When I got outside there was a mom and her young daughter placing THREE boxes of the new "Beatles Rock Band" game into the trunk of their car. "Be careful!," the girl chided her mom when she sort of bumped one of the boxes, "this is THE BEATLES!!".
It was like 1964 again for a while.
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Post by gripweed on Sept 9, 2009 17:28:29 GMT -5
Joe, the false start on I'm Looking Through You was only on the Capitol Release which is why I am going to continue to primarily listen to that one. I can't stand not hearing it.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 9, 2009 17:53:48 GMT -5
One thing I just spotted while playing PAST MASTERS was that the version of Thank You Girl is actually the one that has the added harmonica at the end of the song, as well as accompanying the line "way that you do"..and then echoing "too good to be true".... in other words, the version included on the great BEATLES' SECOND ALBUM! This was great news to me, as I never liked this song as much when the harmonica was missing in these sections.
Also on PAST MASTERS, I wasn't wild about the sound on either KOMM, GIB MIR DEINE HAND or SIE LIEBT DICH.. I think the vocals for the former sounded even better on the U.S. SOMETHING NEW, and the latter may have been bested on the old PAST MASTERS. Just an inkling I have.
On I'm Down ... has John's (I assume it's John's) voice repeating "Dowwnnnnnn...." always sounded so pronounced after Paul sings the words "I'm Down"...? I don't think so. I heard a few different things in here, and actually in other songs too. I guess we'll all hear differences... tough to keep tabs on all of them!
Get Back (single version) has never sounded this crisp and powerful to me before. Ditto for its B-side, Don't Let Me Down.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Sept 9, 2009 20:41:38 GMT -5
One thing I just spotted while playing PAST MASTERS was that the version of Thank You Girl is actually the one that has the added harmonica at the end of the song, as well as accompanying the line "way that you do"..and then echoing "too good to be true".... in other words, the version included on the great BEATLES' SECOND ALBUM! This was great news to me, as I never liked this song as much when the harmonica was missing in these sections. Me too. So that makes two of us.
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 9, 2009 22:38:19 GMT -5
While driving in my car last night I played the STEREO discs for RUBBER SOUL, REVOLVER, and SGT PEPPER. Is the sound quality greatly improved? Yes. Is it louder and more vibrant? Without question. But did I hear anything so different that I'd never heard before? Honestly, NO. Which is getting me to think it's not really "as" big a deal as I thought. I think the reason for your disappointment lies in your opening statement: "While driving in my car ..." A car is a very poor acoustic environment. If you want to hear detail and subtle nuances, don't listen in a car! The better your sound gear, and your listening environment, the more you'll get out of the music. I tend to agree with you..however Car systems vary and listening to the New White Album in my car made it obvious that Paul's Bass and Ringo's Drums are very much improved. While many love Vinyl(as I also do) it is so nice to finally have "legal" Beatles Cds that sound so nice. JoeK.. if your Car stereo is better than your house system it might be time for an upgrade. ;D
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Post by ursamajor on Sept 10, 2009 1:50:53 GMT -5
I thought Abbey Rd was fantastic and Let It Be has been restored to it's rightful place as the definitive Let It Be. I prefer the remastered Let It Be in every way to Let It Be... Naked, sound quality, mixes, Spector's production and track order.
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