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Post by vectisfabber on Apr 10, 2013 10:51:29 GMT -5
Good to see that Rockshow will be complete.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 10, 2013 11:12:54 GMT -5
Ha Ha, Wogblog has a story "Wings Over $140".
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 13, 2013 8:44:55 GMT -5
Rockshow is playing May 17 & 18 at some artsy fartsy theater in Shelbyville, Indiana. I am going both nights and am hoping to go with former Board member ChuckE but I hope the film's showing recreates the atmosphere of the "Midnight Madness" showings of the mid to late 1970's and early 1980's for rock films!  I want to sit in a packed theater of drunken/stoned/beligerent teens, I want to be surrounded by couples in heavy petting and more, I want to hear the clankerings of whiskey bottles rolling on the sticky floors and I most want the sweet aroma of second-hand reefer smoke drifting through my nostrils and giving me that free buzz! When Paul yells, "How you feeling, feeling alright!?" I want to yell back, "You were great, and you were great and you were great" and point my finger dramatically at the screen at each Wings member except Linda, because she was never great.  I will be so bummed if it is just Chuck and I and none of the above. 
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Post by kc on Apr 13, 2013 19:02:21 GMT -5
I'm definitely looking forward to buying Rockshow. Unfortunately, I'm not so excited about Wings Over America though after seeing that there is to be no intermediate CD release; you know, the sets previously offered that lay between the standard edition and the deluxe edition for Band On The Run, McCartney, McCartney II and Ram. These are the ones I have been buying up until now. They delivered most of the bonus audio of the deluxe editions, which is what I'm mainly interested in, at a reasonable price. This archive series is starting to become a mess.
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Post by scousette on Apr 13, 2013 19:18:13 GMT -5
Ha Ha, Wogblog has a story "Wings Over $140". |
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 14, 2013 5:52:30 GMT -5
I'm definitely looking forward to buying Rockshow. Unfortunately, I'm not so excited about Wings Over America though after seeing that there is to be no intermediate CD release; you know, the sets previously offered that lay between the standard edition and the deluxe edition for Band On The Run, McCartney, McCartney II and Ram. These are the ones I have been buying up until now. They delivered most of the bonus audio of the deluxe editions, which is what I'm mainly interested in, at a reasonable price. This archive series is starting to become a mess. Yes indeed. I have NO interest in WINGS OVER AMERICA. I am only interested in buying the stand-alone DVD for ROCKSHOW, if that ever does come out by itself. I'm just not a very big fan of "live" stuff, and I always prefer the studio albums best when it comes to actually listening to Music. I still never even bought the last RAM SPECIAL EDITION because it was so damned expensive. So far I have only bought the "book" editions of McCARTNEY and McCARTNEY II, and I got the BAND ON THE RUN CD SET without the book. I haven't decided what to do as a Vinyl record collector yet; I have never bought any of Paul's "remastered" versions on LP, as of yet. I am not big on buying LPs that are revised; I prefer owning the original vintage records. The exceptions may be because the vinyls will have bonus tracks which makes them different. |
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Post by vectisfabber on Apr 14, 2013 8:38:16 GMT -5
Pretty much the same here. I'm prepared to pay sensible money for something I haven't got. So that's a DVD/Blu-ray, especially if it has previously unreleased stuff on it. It's the album, if it is bundled with a documentary DVD and/or unreleased tracks.
It is NOT remasters - I've already got that stuff, usually multiple times. And it's certainly not silly money prices, especially not for stuff I've already got. Mr M has had a great deal of my money over the years: I'm not averse to him having more, but it has to be for something I want, and it's not going to be at prices which assume I'm a millionaire. I've got a holiday to pay for!
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 14, 2013 21:43:32 GMT -5
On a long drive today I enjoyed the original Capitol Records c.d. version of Wings Over America. It sure brings back memories. I first owned it on 8-track tape.  I played it loud in my car. "Venus and Mars/Rockshow" is a great start to the concert. Paul has never had a better opening. Very few other bands/artists have opened a concert as cool as "Venus and Mars/Rockshow." It was still pretty new and perfect for Paul's return to the U.S. It is a good album representing the band well for 1976. New Paul fans in 2013 would scream and cry, "Where is 'Hey Jude' where is 'Let It Be' blah, blah blah." Newbies will cry, "Why is it so focused on the BOTR, V&M and SOS albums?" Because Paul ruled the charts and he had something to say!Sonically the c.d. was not very good so I look forward to the remastered version. Three songs that I thought were very exciting live from WOA: Jimmy's "Medicine Jar" (recorded in Chicago!); "Time To Hide" which is awesome live, listen to Jimmy's guitar throughout and Denny's vocal is good; and "Beware My Love" from Paul. Those three really caught my attention today and are excellent live. I may get the super dooper pooper scooper version of WOA and I will definitely buy "Rockshow." I have yet to buy a super deluxe box of the McCartney remasters but I will here and for Wings Wild Life. I played WWL first today and it was amazing on a sunny Spring day. "Mumbo", "Bip Bop," "Wild Life," "Some People Never Know," "Tomorrow," and "Dear Friend," man, Paul just does not get any better than that! |
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 15, 2013 6:32:49 GMT -5
On a long drive today I enjoyed the original Capitol Records c.d. version of Wings Over America. It sure brings back memories. I first owned it on 8-track tape. I played it loud in my car. "Venus and Mars/Rockshow" is a great start to the concert. Paul has never had a better opening. Very few other bands/artists have opened a concert as cool as "Venus and Mars/Rockshow." It was still pretty new and perfect for Paul's return to the U.S. It is a good album representing the band well for 1976. New Paul fans in 2013 would scream and cry, "Where is 'Hey Jude' where is 'Let It Be' blah, blah blah." Newbies will cry, "Why is it so focused on the BOTR, V&M and SOS albums?" V&M is one of my very favorite Paul LPs of all time. And I agree that V&M/ROCKSHOW was a great opening, but I still prefer HELLO GOODBYE and MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR as openings. (Worst opening song ever was FIGURE OF EIGHT -- I like the song okay, just not as an opening). You make no sense though, John. What are you doing blasting the "sell-out Paul" (according to your own logic) of 1976 in your car? You are not allowed to listen to that album!  I should think you'd be the FIRST person to cry that a concert is so focused on the BOTR, V&M and SOS albums! You are wildly inconsistent here; but I'm pretty sure that's just due to your penchant to always be outrageous!  |
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Apr 15, 2013 13:12:23 GMT -5
Chhttp://rockshowonscreen.com/
Check your local theatre for a play date for the movie around May 15.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 15, 2013 16:05:25 GMT -5
On a long drive today I enjoyed the original Capitol Records c.d. version of Wings Over America. It sure brings back memories. I first owned it on 8-track tape. I played it loud in my car. "Venus and Mars/Rockshow" is a great start to the concert. Paul has never had a better opening. Very few other bands/artists have opened a concert as cool as "Venus and Mars/Rockshow." It was still pretty new and perfect for Paul's return to the U.S. It is a good album representing the band well for 1976. New Paul fans in 2013 would scream and cry, "Where is 'Hey Jude' where is 'Let It Be' blah, blah blah." Newbies will cry, "Why is it so focused on the BOTR, V&M and SOS albums?" V&M is one of my very favorite Paul LPs of all time. And I agree that V&M/ROCKSHOW was a great opening, but I still prefer HELLO GOODBYE and MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR as openings. (Worst opening song ever was FIGURE OF EIGHT -- I like the song okay, just not as an opening). You make no sense though, John. What are you doing blasting the "sell-out Paul" (according to your own logic) of 1976 in your car? You are not allowed to listen to that album! I should think you'd be the FIRST person to cry that a concert is so focused on the BOTR, V&M and SOS albums! You are wildly inconsistent here; but I'm pretty sure that's just due to your penchant to always be outrageous! Joe you break my heart! "Hello Goodbye" and "Magical Mystery Tour" are two of Paul's lamest Beatles songs, I think both blow as openers. I am not inconsistent. I prefer the music Paul was making on his first four solo albums when the critics and most fans hated him but I also appreciate that by selling out and being "Beatle Paul" again, Paul ruled the Pop World for about three or four years. WOA was Paul at the height of his commercial success and he did it with contemporary material mostly. I prefer hippy Paul of The JSD Postulate era but Paul as a walking, talking God in 1976 was pretty cool too, I must admit! Also, in 1976 I was drinking the Paul Kool-Aid and I was in line with the conventional wisdom on Paul: Paul sucked until BOTR! WOA is very nostalgic to me. I realize now that Paul was going 90 mph down a dead-end street and would crash and burn with London Town and Back To The Egg but I didn't know it then. |
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 16, 2013 7:30:02 GMT -5
Joe you break my heart! "Hello Goodbye" and "Magical Mystery Tour" are two of Paul's lamest Beatles songs, I think both blow as openers. You may feel both songs are lame (well, I could sort of understand this for HG, but not for MMT).... however, what I like about them as "openers" is that HG is, of course, welcoming people with "Hello, Hello", while MMT is the blasting "welcome to the show!" type of opener (it opens the MMT film). MMT, at least, is a natural-born opener, much as SPLHCB was. We'll have to agree to disagree on your matter of consistency. You now say you don't care for that period of Paul's albums, and you feel it's where he sold out and got weak -- yet you turn around and say he was a contemporary 1976 God with WOA. It sounds completely contradictory to me, sorry. |
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 16, 2013 13:43:54 GMT -5
I am in a rush but SPLHCB would be a great opener for Paul, I'd like that. HG is anti-climatic and MMT is just a xerox copy of SPLHCB.
Didn't Paul open 1993 with "Drive My Car?" That sucked! I love the Beatles version from RS but I never liked solo Paul doing it.
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Post by coachbk on Apr 17, 2013 20:18:31 GMT -5
I loved "Drive My Car" as an opener. Paul used it at Citi Field. A great choice. It really rocked!
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 17, 2013 20:36:41 GMT -5
Drive My Car was pretty good as one of the four songs for the Super Bowl.
I vote Venus and Mars as the best opener. Band on the Run would have been good.
I guess if he was still opening with Venus and Mars, we would be tired of it. I'd prefer the new stuff.
Let's hope he doesn't decide to take our advice with the new album and it's all techno dance.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 20, 2013 7:18:50 GMT -5
Rock Show is on amazon.com for pre-order now. $24.49 for just the plain Blu-ray. I'm surprised it doesn't have the dvd included like everything else you can order these days.
If it comes out in a more deluxe packaging, I'll cancel and re-order. That's assuming they don't release a deluxe after the regular edition comes out. They really whipped me around with the Electric Arguments and Kisses releases.
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Post by sayne on Apr 20, 2013 8:51:18 GMT -5
. . . I agree that V&M/ROCKSHOW was a great opening, but I still prefer HELLO GOODBYE and MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR as openings. (Worst opening song ever was FIGURE OF EIGHT . . . I agree with you. One needs to remember, too, that it's also about the "curtain rise." I recall that when Paul opened with Hello Goodbye there were these dancers around the arena, the lights went out, a silhouette of his Hofner appeared on a screen, then he appeared in silhouette holding his Hofner up high, the screen went up and the band appeared walking forward like gunslingers ready to blow people away. That was a good opening. Magical Mystery Tour, I think, was a much simpler build-up with the band simply appearing from behind a multi-color kaleidescope screen. Here's a clip of Paul doing the song later in a set and the song does not seem to work as well compared to as an opener: Venus and Mars worked really well because it had a great build up. It masterfully raised our excitement. I've especially like this song because when I saw him in San Diego back in 1976 and a few years ago at the Hollywood Bowl, it seemed very special to hear him sing "Sitting in the stands of the Sports Arena," and "Rock show at the Hollywood Bowl." For the San Diego show, I think we may have been the only venue of the tour that had "sports arena" as part of its name. Hello Goodbye, Venus and Mars, and MMT are all good. Figure of Eight, Jet, Drive My Car are less successful to me. Didn't he, way back when, open with Big Barn Bed? That's a good one. Maybe it was in his TV special. |
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 26, 2013 20:11:41 GMT -5
Rock Show is on amazon.com for pre-order now. $24.49 for just the plain Blu-ray. I'm surprised it doesn't have the dvd included like everything else you can order these days. If it comes out in a more deluxe packaging, I'll cancel and re-order. That's assuming they don't release a deluxe after the regular edition comes out. They really whipped me around with the Electric Arguments and Kisses releases. Okay, it's started. Here's Rockshow Blu-ray with a booklet and tee-shirt. $98.00? That had better one hell-a-va booklet. Worth $74? amzn.to/11LbtCV |
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Post by kc on May 15, 2013 20:33:14 GMT -5
I've just seen a price online for the deluxe version of Wings Over America here in Australia: A$175.99. Absolutely ridiculous, and that is from a discount chain. A$29.99 for the standard CD release.
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Post by OldFred on May 15, 2013 20:55:13 GMT -5
Funny how I started this thread in 2008, and now it's back in vogue due to the upcoming releases of both WOA and Rockshow. I'm going to see the the Rockshow screening in Montclair, NJ on May 16, and I placed my pre-order for the Best Buy version of WOA which includes the extra disc found in the deluxe box set. I have my copy of the 'Wings Over The World' documentary which I transferred to DVD sometime ago. I'd love to have a better copy of the documentary which is in the deluxe box, but my copy will do. So, to get back on this threads topic as started by the 'original poster', (nudge nudge, wink wink ); Do you prefer WOA or Rockshow as an accurate document capture of the 1976 Wings tour? |
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Post by sayne on May 16, 2013 2:14:10 GMT -5
.. . I will be so bummed if it is just Chuck and I and none of the above. I bet that is what's going to happen. I remember going to see the Concert for George film and I got there early to get parking and a good seat. My date and I were two of only 4 people in the theater. I overheard one of the other people ask the usher if other showings were more crowded and he said they had all been almost empty. This was in LA! |
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Post by John S. Damm on May 16, 2013 8:11:09 GMT -5
I bet that is what's going to happen. I remember going to see the Concert for George film and I got there early to get parking and a good seat. My date and I were two of only 4 people in the theater. I overheard one of the other people ask the usher if other showings were more crowded and he said they had all been almost empty. This was in LA! Well now I don't know if I can even go as the showing is 2 hours, 15 minutes away! I didn't know where Shelbyville, Indiana was! I thought it right next to Indy, but it is to the southeast. My other choice is the suburbs of Chicago which is no good either as it is only tonight! "Date?" I thought you were an old married man, sayne! I guess that film was back in 2003 or something. |
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Post by sayne on May 16, 2013 20:47:16 GMT -5
"Date?" I thought you were an old married man, sayne! Yeah, some married people do still date. Now, sex, is another story. |
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Post by John S. Damm on May 16, 2013 22:27:43 GMT -5
"Date?" I thought you were an old married man, sayne! Yeah, some married people do still date. Now, sex, is another story. LOL! Hey, sayne you'll be glad to know my friend SlyRose saw "Rockshow" tonight at The Arboretum in South Barrington, Illinois(a suburb of Chicago) and the theater was full! I am telling you, people want Wings! They weren't just there for Paul. They want to see Denny Laine play that doubleneck electric guitar; they want to see hard living Jimmy rip great solos with ease; they want to see Joe English pound those drums like his life depended on it; they want to see Paul's horn section boogie when not blowing; and they want to see Linda tickle those......oh who am I kidding, they don't want to see or hear Linda!  |
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Post by OldFred on May 16, 2013 22:30:04 GMT -5
Got back from the Rockshow screening. While not a sold out house, it was still a good sized one. It was fun seeing the film again on a big screen, the last time was during its original 1980 run. What I like best about Rockshow as compared to other McCartney concert films is that for the majority of the movie the cameras are locked on Paul and Wings with few audience shots, quite a difference from the MTV style of quick cutting and frequent, intrusive audience shots in the later concert films. The recent 'Good Evening, New York City!' film of the Shea/Citifield concert comes closest to focusing on just Paul and the band. I'm really looking forward to picking up the Bluray of 'Rockshow'.  |
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Post by sayne on May 16, 2013 23:34:00 GMT -5
LOL! Hey, sayne you'll be glad to know my friend SlyRose saw "Rockshow" tonight at The Arboretum in South Barrington, Illinois(a suburb of Chicago) and the theater was full! . . . Nice to hear. Was there no Pacer game? |
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Post by scousette on May 16, 2013 23:51:38 GMT -5
Yeah, some married people do still date. Now, sex, is another story. LOL! Hey, sayne you'll be glad to know my friend SlyRose saw "Rockshow" tonight at The Arboretum in South Barrington, Illinois(a suburb of Chicago) and the theater was full! I am telling you, people want Wings! They weren't just there for Paul. They want to see Denny Laine play that doubleneck electric guitar; they want to see hard living Jimmy rip great solos with ease; they want to see Joe English pound those drums like his life depended on it; they want to see Paul's horn section boogie when not blowing; and they want to see Linda tickle those......oh who am I kidding, they don't want to see or hear Linda! LMAO! I just saw Rockshow in San Rafael CA. It was a pretty good crowd. Yeah, somebody remind me why Linda was in Wings. Denny Laine is in my ears and in my eyes, Jimmy McCulloch was really cute and owned those guitar solos. What's Howie Casey doing these days? You're right, JSD, Paul was a rock God and he wore a totally awesome jacket and satin pants!!!! |
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Post by Steve Marinucci on May 17, 2013 0:37:35 GMT -5
Saw "Rockshow" in San Jose. The screening was practically empty, but the film more than made up for it.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2013 19:56:21 GMT -5
Rocko..
When do we see all this Paul stuff on sale over here...
The dvd
The album
What else is in this release ?
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Post by glenn1966 on May 22, 2013 21:18:21 GMT -5
I just got back from a screening in Sparta, NJ.
I was 10 in 1976. My biggest concern was which comic books I was going to spend my allowance on, so I really missed out on seeing Wings.
I did see Paul in '89 and '90 and I really liked it at the time. Last night, I put Tripping The Live Fantastic in the CD player, and found myself disappointed. I thought his voice was too raspy.
The film was awesome. The theatre had four other people in it. Normally, I find concert films boring, so I'm usually content to get the CD. I'll probably get the Best Buy 3 disc set.
I was glad I got to experience Wings in full color, great sound, a REAL horn section and Paul at the top of his game.
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I should think you'd be the FIRST person to cry that a concert is so focused on the BOTR, V&M and SOS albums! You are wildly inconsistent here; but I'm pretty sure that's just due to your penchant to always be outrageous! 
