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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jan 18, 2012 0:09:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2012 6:06:23 GMT -5
Ringo's Wings is not too bad at all...nice guitar work in that song..
Well done Ringo........you're now almost better than that other ex Beatle.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 22, 2012 13:35:56 GMT -5
Ringo's Wings is not too bad at all...nice guitar work in that song.. Well done Ringo........you're now almost better than that other ex Beatle. Many won't agree with me, but IMO Ringo's work has been better than Paul's from the 1990's to date. Not knocking Paul, I still listen to all his stuff, but Ringo's been doing some fine Rock and Roll albums, good melodies, good riffs...if just a little cutesy at times.
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Post by debjorgo on Jan 23, 2012 23:32:07 GMT -5
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Post by kc on Jan 25, 2012 5:09:01 GMT -5
The album will be released here on Friday 3rd. February. I'll be getting a copy.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 25, 2012 17:44:32 GMT -5
It's got a good beat. The lyrics are kind of Meh. What is Ringo proposing we do to obtain peace and love?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 25, 2012 19:21:40 GMT -5
It's got a good beat. The lyrics are kind of Meh. What is Ringo proposing we do to obtain peace and love? To start with, Ringo can stop grumbling at fans and sign more autographs!
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 25, 2012 19:36:20 GMT -5
It's got a good beat. The lyrics are kind of Meh. What is Ringo proposing we do to obtain peace and love? To start with, Ringo can stop grumbling at fans and sign more autographs! So funny, all the crap he set himself up for. Who imagined that he used to spend his days catching up on his mail and sending off autographs just like the Ringo in the Simpsons episode? He just should have kept his mouth shut and thrown out all the personal items like most other celebs would. I'm glad I already have my Ringo autographs...and I've never been tempted to put them on Ebay!
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 25, 2012 19:37:37 GMT -5
The album will be released here on Friday 3rd. February. I'll be getting a copy. Get two! One for home, one for the car! We're trying to get Ringo 2012 way up on the charts!
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Post by debjorgo on Jan 25, 2012 20:07:19 GMT -5
The album will be released here on Friday 3rd. February. I'll be getting a copy. Get two! One for home, one for the car! We're trying to get Ringo 2012 way up on the charts! I cancelled my purchase. I had to get the version with the DVD. Does this count towards the sales of the single disc?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 26, 2012 6:54:16 GMT -5
So funny, all the crap he set himself up for. Who imagined that he used to spend his days catching up on his mail and sending off autographs just like the Ringo in the Simpsons episode? He just should have kept his mouth shut and thrown out all the personal items like most other celebs would. I'm glad I already have my Ringo autographs...and I've never been tempted to put them on Ebay! Ringo was on a TV show last year or two (I've forgotten which one, but it's on YouTube) and the interviewer asked him about the "No Autographs" announcement. Ringo's decision not to sign anymore goes for ANY autographs, not just the ones sent to his home. He said he feels he's done enough by now, but mainly that he doesn't like that dealers make money off him on Ebay. This pisses me off whenever any celebrity goes that extreme. For one thing, Ringo's gaining new young fans every year who were not around back when he was signing. For another thing, this whole "Ebay" thing really hurts good fans who really want the autographs for themselves and have no intention of selling them. I'd love to talk to Ringo and impress upon him the fact that even when dealers sell his autograph, in the end it will wind up in the happy hands of some fan somewhere who loves Ringo and couldn't get an autograph from Ringo himself personally. Or in other words, every autograph Ringo ever does will wind up in the right hands in the end. (And I dare say, if some dealer winds up making money from Ringo's signature on the side, is it really soooo bad? Ringo's never goning to be hurting for money, and he's still got millions). This applies to any greedy celebrity with "Ebay Phobia".
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Post by vectisfabber on Jan 26, 2012 7:31:00 GMT -5
I quite agree with you. Anything which people want is always going to develop a market but, while traders are obvisouly in that market to make money, the product ultimately goes to those who want it and, importantly, might not otherwise be able to get something which means a lot to them. So thank heavens for the internet and ebay. My office walls are covered with original comic art (UK and US), much obtained from traders, all at prices which I have felt were reasonable, and all of which is much loved by me.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 26, 2012 11:46:58 GMT -5
The album will be released here on Friday 3rd. February. I'll be getting a copy. Get two! One for home, one for the car! We're trying to get Ringo 2012 way up on the charts! I love your enthusiasm anyoneanyhow but that is a tall order if Ringo's sales figures for the last 25 years are any indication. I will legally buy the album to help sales although I now see from debjorgo's post that there must be the obligatory "deluxe" version. I'll see if I can find it somewhere, probably amazon, since I live in a land where new Ringo Starr c.d.s long ago disappeared from the shelves of retailers.
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Post by debjorgo on Jan 26, 2012 19:47:58 GMT -5
So Ringo don't sign autographs. You can buy one on ebay.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 26, 2012 19:54:19 GMT -5
So Ringo don't sign autographs. You can buy one on ebay. Speaking for myself, an autograph is valuable to me only as a keepsake from a brief encounter with someone I admire. It is the meeting part that is important and an autograph is a nice souvenir of that. I would never pay for an autograph because there is no personal connection with it to me.
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Post by debjorgo on Jan 26, 2012 21:27:48 GMT -5
So Ringo don't sign autographs. You can buy one on ebay. Speaking for myself, an autograph is valuable to me only as a keepsake from a brief encounter with someone I admire. It is the meeting part that is important and an autograph is a nice souvenir of that. I would never pay for an autograph because there is no personal connection with it to me. I agree. I was just being ironic. Or at least I think it is irony. I forget about all of the grammar geniuses around here (in this world in which we live in).
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 27, 2012 8:23:02 GMT -5
So Ringo don't sign autographs. You can buy one on ebay. Speaking for myself, an autograph is valuable to me only as a keepsake from a brief encounter with someone I admire. It is the meeting part that is important and an autograph is a nice souvenir of that. I would never pay for an autograph because there is no personal connection with it to me. As a collector, I have paid for only a few autographs, and Ringo's was one of them. I agree with you though, JSD - I don't like paying for them or buying them because there is no personal connection to me, and also because you never can be 100% sure it's authentic, no matter who tells you it is or how accurate it looks. In Ringo's case, I bought a signed copy of the STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES album cover, because Ringo's full name signature is so easily distinctive & identifiable and because in 1981 Ringo appeared on ROCKLINE to promote this LP and he said on air that he was going to sign 50 copies of the album to give away. (So I figured it was a possibility this was one of those covers). I was lucky to get close to Ringo at his New York hotel in 1995, when he was there to promote his All-Starr Band and appeared on DONAHUE. There were about 10 people waiting there but unfortunately, it was yet another depressing NYC observation for me with one of the Fabs (like with Paul that same year), as Ringo just got out of his limo shaking his head and brushing quickly through the small crowd of fans muttering words under his breath that didn't sound pleasant. I saw Ringo go into the hotel and briefly explain something to the doorman... later on, I asked the doorman what Ringo said to him, and the doorman quoted something like Ringo saying how can they expect him to do anything when they're all around him like that (words to this effect). I didn't see anyone "mob" him at all, but whatever, Ringo.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 27, 2012 10:07:01 GMT -5
As a collector, I have paid for only a few autographs, and Ringo's was one of them. I agree with you though, JSD - I don't like paying for them or buying them because there is no personal connection to me, and also because you never can be 100% sure it's authentic, no matter who tells you it is or how accurate it looks. In Ringo's case, I bought a signed copy of the STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES album cover, because Ringo's full name signature is so easily distinctive & identifiable and because in 1981 Ringo appeared on ROCKLINE to promote this LP and he said on air that he was going to sign 50 copies of the album to give away. (So I figured it was a possibility this was one of those covers). Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge collectors who do buy autographs and your example is a good one, Joe. That sounds like a neat thing to have. I just haven't done it. If someone offered me an Abbey Road vinyl album cover signed by all four for a reasonable "fire sale" price, I might buy that. Wow, I wonder if there is such a signed AR cover by all four as the lads were probably not in one place very often after that album was released. I have to imagine there are many more all four signed early albums than later ones.
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Post by markc on Jan 27, 2012 10:28:30 GMT -5
Should have sung out at Ringo: "All I want is an autograph, cause I realize you're not coming back anymore" (at least not until the next All Starr tour).
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 27, 2012 10:47:13 GMT -5
Should have sung out at Ringo: "All I want is an autograph, cause I realize you're not coming back anymore" (at least not until the next All Starr tour). ;D Something like that may make Ringo laugh and give an autograph. I have been wondering if he signs body parts of attractive women. You won't see those autographs sold on EBay.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 27, 2012 15:29:20 GMT -5
As a collector, I have paid for only a few autographs, and Ringo's was one of them. I agree with you though, JSD - I don't like paying for them or buying them because there is no personal connection to me, and also because you never can be 100% sure it's authentic, no matter who tells you it is or how accurate it looks. In Ringo's case, I bought a signed copy of the STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES album cover, because Ringo's full name signature is so easily distinctive & identifiable and because in 1981 Ringo appeared on ROCKLINE to promote this LP and he said on air that he was going to sign 50 copies of the album to give away. (So I figured it was a possibility this was one of those covers). Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge collectors who do buy autographs and your example is a good one, Joe. That sounds like a neat thing to have. I just haven't done it. Believe me, it's a poor substitute for the Real Deal, 'In Person' ... but what can you do? I think I paid $75 for this at the time. Not too bad, and it's really a nice one, framed and all --- that is, if it IS really Ringo's signature!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 27, 2012 17:25:31 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge collectors who do buy autographs and your example is a good one, Joe. That sounds like a neat thing to have. I just haven't done it. Believe me, it's a poor substitute for the Real Deal, 'In Person' ... but what can you do? I think I paid $75 for this at the time. Not too bad, and it's really a nice one, framed and all --- that is, if it IS really Ringo's signature! And it is on an album cover, something you can hang on the wall. I guess what I wouldn't buy is an autograph on some crappy piece of paper. That same crappy piece of paper and autograph would be priceless to me if I was the one who handed it to the star to sign but to buy it from someone else wouldn't mean anything to me. A signed album cover is cool though.
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Post by lowbasso on Jan 27, 2012 20:42:20 GMT -5
As a collector, I have paid for only a few autographs, and Ringo's was one of them. I agree with you though, JSD - I don't like paying for them or buying them because there is no personal connection to me, and also because you never can be 100% sure it's authentic, no matter who tells you it is or how accurate it looks. In Ringo's case, I bought a signed copy of the STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES album cover, because Ringo's full name signature is so easily distinctive & identifiable and because in 1981 Ringo appeared on ROCKLINE to promote this LP and he said on air that he was going to sign 50 copies of the album to give away. (So I figured it was a possibility this was one of those covers). Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge collectors who do buy autographs and your example is a good one, Joe. That sounds like a neat thing to have. I just haven't done it. If someone offered me an Abbey Road vinyl album cover signed by all four for a reasonable "fire sale" price, I might buy that. Wow, I wonder if there is such a signed AR cover by all four as the lads were probably not in one place very often after that album was released. I have to imagine there are many more all four signed early albums than later ones. In 1994 I saw an Abbey Road album that was already signed by John and Paul. The dealer offered to sell it to me for $2500 and said all I needed to do was fly to the UK and get George and Ringo to sign it. Should have done it at the time. Instead I bought John's book "In His Own Write" 1st Edition (1964) that was signed by all four Fabs on their first US Tour in the summer of 1964. I bought that for $2500. That was a good deal. I could probably get $25,000 today if I wanted to sell it. If you find a signed Abbey Road album by all four, or any album for that matter signed by all four, expect to pay $50,000 or more. Abbey Road or Sgt. Pepper would probably cost you $75,000-$80,000. I always wondered if that dealer managed to get George and Ringo to sign that Abbey Road album. Signed album covers are the most coveted Beatles Memorabilia except for original written song lyrics, which command 6 figures now.
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Post by lowbasso on Jan 27, 2012 20:55:30 GMT -5
Speaking for myself, an autograph is valuable to me only as a keepsake from a brief encounter with someone I admire. It is the meeting part that is important and an autograph is a nice souvenir of that. I would never pay for an autograph because there is no personal connection with it to me. As a collector, I have paid for only a few autographs, and Ringo's was one of them. I agree with you though, JSD - I don't like paying for them or buying them because there is no personal connection to me, and also because you never can be 100% sure it's authentic, no matter who tells you it is or how accurate it looks. In Ringo's case, I bought a signed copy of the STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES album cover, because Ringo's full name signature is so easily distinctive & identifiable and because in 1981 Ringo appeared on ROCKLINE to promote this LP and he said on air that he was going to sign 50 copies of the album to give away. (So I figured it was a possibility this was one of those covers). I was lucky to get close to Ringo at his New York hotel in 1995, when he was there to promote his All-Starr Band and appeared on DONAHUE. There were about 10 people waiting there but unfortunately, it was yet another depressing NYC observation for me with one of the Fabs (like with Paul that same year), as Ringo just got out of his limo shaking his head and brushing quickly through the small crowd of fans muttering words under his breath that didn't sound pleasant. I saw Ringo go into the hotel and briefly explain something to the doorman... later on, I asked the doorman what Ringo said to him, and the doorman quoted something like Ringo saying how can they expect him to do anything when they're all around him like that (words to this effect). I didn't see anyone "mob" him at all, but whatever, Ringo. Frank Caiazzo is the man you go to to authenticate any Beatles autographs. Unless you actually were there when it was signed. But if you decide to sell it, you still have to get a letter from him. If he gives you a Letter of Authentication regarding an autographed piece it will be accepted at any auction house, or any dealer. You should never buy any Beatles autographed memorabilia without his ok first. Many pieces out there come with a letter by him already when you see them for sale.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 28, 2012 7:43:32 GMT -5
And it is on an album cover, something you can hang on the wall. I guess what I wouldn't buy is an autograph on some crappy piece of paper. That same crappy piece of paper and autograph would be priceless to me if I was the one who handed it to the star to sign but to buy it from someone else wouldn't mean anything to me. The paper could also me mounted with a photo or something and framed also. In some cases of older 1930s and 1940s actors, they didn't usually sign photos or anyhting. I have a collection of some older signatures which are single pages taken out of old autograph books.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 28, 2012 17:27:20 GMT -5
Speaking for myself, an autograph is valuable to me only as a keepsake from a brief encounter with someone I admire. It is the meeting part that is important and an autograph is a nice souvenir of that. I would never pay for an autograph because there is no personal connection with it to me. As a collector, I have paid for only a few autographs, and Ringo's was one of them. I agree with you though, JSD - I don't like paying for them or buying them because there is no personal connection to me, and also because you never can be 100% sure it's authentic, no matter who tells you it is or how accurate it looks. In Ringo's case, I bought a signed copy of the STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES album cover, because Ringo's full name signature is so easily distinctive & identifiable and because in 1981 Ringo appeared on ROCKLINE to promote this LP and he said on air that he was going to sign 50 copies of the album to give away. (So I figured it was a possibility this was one of those covers). I was lucky to get close to Ringo at his New York hotel in 1995, when he was there to promote his All-Starr Band and appeared on DONAHUE. There were about 10 people waiting there but unfortunately, it was yet another depressing NYC observation for me with one of the Fabs (like with Paul that same year), as Ringo just got out of his limo shaking his head and brushing quickly through the small crowd of fans muttering words under his breath that didn't sound pleasant. I saw Ringo go into the hotel and briefly explain something to the doorman... later on, I asked the doorman what Ringo said to him, and the doorman quoted something like Ringo saying how can they expect him to do anything when they're all around him like that (words to this effect). I didn't see anyone "mob" him at all, but whatever, Ringo. In hindsight I'm suprised that I (and Old Fred) didn't see you at Ringo's 1998 CD signing at Tower records (for Storytellers.) He also did one for the Anthology...So Far shortly afterwards, also in NYC.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 28, 2012 17:30:33 GMT -5
As a collector, I have paid for only a few autographs, and Ringo's was one of them. I agree with you though, JSD - I don't like paying for them or buying them because there is no personal connection to me, and also because you never can be 100% sure it's authentic, no matter who tells you it is or how accurate it looks. In Ringo's case, I bought a signed copy of the STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES album cover, because Ringo's full name signature is so easily distinctive & identifiable and because in 1981 Ringo appeared on ROCKLINE to promote this LP and he said on air that he was going to sign 50 copies of the album to give away. (So I figured it was a possibility this was one of those covers). Don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge collectors who do buy autographs and your example is a good one, Joe. That sounds like a neat thing to have. I just haven't done it. If someone offered me an Abbey Road vinyl album cover signed by all four for a reasonable "fire sale" price, I might buy that. Wow, I wonder if there is such a signed AR cover by all four as the lads were probably not in one place very often after that album was released. I have to imagine there are many more all four signed early albums than later ones. A record shop in Cape Cod was showing a Hey Jude (or Beatles Again) cover with all 4 signatures, where the signatures were acquired over a number of years. Authentic? Who knows but a fascinating concept.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 28, 2012 17:37:46 GMT -5
I always figured one day I would hang out at the Dakota and get me a Lennon autograph. Waited too long. Around 1978 I saw a Lennon autograph on a nice sheet music photo for Whatever Gets You Through The Night that failed to sell at a Beatlefest auction. I went to buy it afterwards but the seller asked the only other guy there "will you give me $15 for it" and the deal was struck before I even had a chance to open my mouth...though he might next ask me for $20 but he just grabbed the guy's money. Pretty sure it was authentic, my biggest regret as far as collectibles are concerned.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 28, 2012 17:50:27 GMT -5
Get two! One for home, one for the car! We're trying to get Ringo 2012 way up on the charts! I love your enthusiasm anyoneanyhow but that is a tall order if Ringo's sales figures for the last 25 years are any indication. I will legally buy the album to help sales although I now see from debjorgo's post that there must be the obligatory "deluxe" version. I'll see if I can find it somewhere, probably amazon, since I live in a land where new Ringo Starr c.d.s long ago disappeared from the shelves of retailers. Purely tongue in cheek, John, in case there's a doubt. You actually have cd retailers in your neck of the woods? I wondered where they got to. What I don't get, is why doesn't Ringo sell his latest CD's at his concerts like so many acts do? That is his core potential market. He could probably double the sales of his cd's (to 24 from 12, say) if he did that. Unless he doesn't want to detract from t-shirt sales?
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Post by debjorgo on Jan 28, 2012 18:54:30 GMT -5
What I don't get, is why doesn't Ringo sell his latest CD's at his concerts like so many acts do? That is his core potential market. He could probably double the sales of his cd's (to 24 from 12, say) if he did that. Unless he doesn't want to detract from t-shirt sales? He doesn't sing many of his new songs at his shows does he? So he's not really promoting the new discs.
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