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Post by joeyself on Jul 16, 2010 8:19:15 GMT -5
THE BEATLES, Side 1
"Back in the U.S.S.R." 2:43 "Dear Prudence" 3:56 "Glass Onion" 2:17 "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da" 3:08 "Wild Honey Pie" 1:01 "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill" 3:05 "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" 4:45 "Happiness Is a Warm Gun" 2:43
ABBEY ROAD, Side 1
"Come Together" 4:20 "Something" 3:03 "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" 3:27 "Oh! Darling" 3:26 "Octopus's Garden" 2:51 "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" 7:47
AR 1 got here by beating WITH THE BEATLES 2 by a 13-10 count. Now it takes on simply THE BEATLES 1, released less than a year before ABBEY ROAD.
JcS
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Post by RockoRoll on Jul 16, 2010 8:24:38 GMT -5
ABBEY ROAD, Side 1
It is quality rather than quantity that matters......
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 16, 2010 10:06:34 GMT -5
THE BEATLES, Side 1
There are four classics on TB-1 and only three on AR-1. And the classics from TB-1 are not over-saturated, especially "Dear Prudence" and "Happiness Is A Warm Gun."
True, TB-1 has Oh Blah Dumb but AR has the even worse Maxwell(both songs helping put the nail in the lid of The Beatles' coffin). "Octopus Garden" and "Oh!Darling" don't help the cause either. I must say that John and George try to make AR-1 competitive with great offerings but Paul is curiously lame here. Ringo trys, bless him.
Sides 1 and 4 of TB are important slabs of music by our Fabs.
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Post by wooltonian on Jul 16, 2010 10:36:10 GMT -5
As soon as I saw this match-up on the thread heading I groaned and knew instantly that I needed a night in the pub and copious amounts of ale before a decision could be reached... ...will report back tomorrow.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 16, 2010 10:50:24 GMT -5
First side of "Abbey Road." The album is brilliant.
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Post by joeyself on Jul 16, 2010 11:32:00 GMT -5
As soon as I saw this match-up on the thread heading I groaned and knew instantly that I needed a night in the pub and copious amounts of ale before a decision could be reached... ...will report back tomorrow. Who are you trying to kid? That's your way of deciding ANYTHING! JcS
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Post by joeyself on Jul 16, 2010 11:32:33 GMT -5
First side of "Abbey Road." The album is brilliant. Steve, I think you may have forgotten to click the poll choice. JcS
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 16, 2010 11:36:09 GMT -5
TB1 narrowly.
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Post by JCV on Jul 16, 2010 12:00:23 GMT -5
ABBEY ROAD, Side 1Very tough decision that I made without going to the pub. ;D My only holdback was "Maxwell's Silver Hammer." Luckily, I don't hear it everyday because it would get old quickly. JCV
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Post by acebackwords on Jul 16, 2010 12:39:04 GMT -5
Ew boy. Now we're getting into the creme de la creme. I have to go with the White Album, if only because "Dear Prudence" is one of my all-time fave Beatles songs. (Responding to these album survey questions, I'm realizing how many all-time fave Beatles songs I have.)
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Post by scousette on Jul 16, 2010 13:38:50 GMT -5
THE BEATLES, Side 1
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Post by coachbk on Jul 16, 2010 14:26:31 GMT -5
Another tough one. Two great songs to start things off, but "Back To USSR" I give the edge over "Come Together", it rocks a bit more and has more energy. "Something" and "WMGGW" is a toss-up. George at his best in two different styles "Obladi Oblada" over "Maxwell" in a match of McCartney songs many don't like (but I do) "Dear Prudence" by a very slight edge over "Octopus Garden" in another match of two songs I love. "I Want You" gets the nod over whatever other song you want to put it up against, (I'll put HIAWG since it closes the side.) "Oh Darling" is as good as "Bungalow Bill" and "Glass Onion" and better than "Wild Honey Pie".
So looking at the song matchups I'm going with THE BEATLES side one.
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Post by stavros on Jul 16, 2010 14:30:37 GMT -5
This is a tough one. I'll have to think it over. In fact if I hang around maybe McCabe will buy me Guinness or three to help me cogitate.
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Post by acebackwords on Jul 16, 2010 14:38:21 GMT -5
This is a tough one. I'll have to think it over. In fact if I hang around maybe McCabe will buy me Guinness or three to help me cogitate. I don't know if thats a good idea, Stavros. I ended up taking a few substances to help me cogitate and ended up voting for "Wonderwall" by George Harrison.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Jul 16, 2010 16:29:08 GMT -5
This is a tough one. I'll have to think it over. In fact if I hang around maybe McCabe will buy me Guinness or three to help me cogitate. You can have as many as you like, and you don't even have to vote.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Jul 16, 2010 16:31:11 GMT -5
This is a tough one. I'll have to think it over. In fact if I hang around maybe McCabe will buy me Guinness or three to help me cogitate. I don't know if thats a good idea, Stavros. I ended up taking a few substances to help me cogitate and ended up voting for "Wonderwall" by George Harrison. Nothing wrong with Wonderwall, man. It's Electronic Sound that I find a little tough to take without substances.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Jul 16, 2010 16:40:04 GMT -5
In an earlier match-up I gave my thoughts about AR1. Only two songs of note, and they are the bookends. Even Something leaves me cold, as its lyrics simply don't work for me.
But TB1. Ah, near perfection. Only Bungalow Bill is a low point: when Lennon is obvious, he tends to be embarrassing.
Classics abound on TB1: Back In The USSR, Dear Prudence, While My Guitar Gently Weeps (THE song of the album, imo), Happiness Is A Warm Gun.
And I LIKE Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da, do you hear? It's great: a story with a nice twist at the end (yes, it was serendipity at work, but lots of great discoveries come about by chance), and it bops along very nicely: think West Indies, and you'll be OK, eh mon?
As for Glass Onion, and Wild Honey Pie - eccentric and nonetheless cool for that.
My vote is obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2010 17:14:44 GMT -5
ABBEY ROAD, Side 1 A couple of George classics on this side of Abbey Road, that was enough to sway my vote......
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Post by ursamajor on Jul 16, 2010 17:53:52 GMT -5
This one's quite tough actually.
TB - S1 for me
I was almost going to go for Abbey Road S1 only because I could never stand the tinny drum sound on Back in the USSR, why are the drums so trashcan and then on Dear Prudence they're much fuller ?
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Jul 16, 2010 18:19:01 GMT -5
ABBEY ROAD, Side 1 A couple of George classics on this side of Abbey Road, that was enough to sway my vote...... Only one George song on Side 1 - Something.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Jul 16, 2010 20:41:24 GMT -5
I could never stand the tinny drum sound on Back in the USSR, why are the drums so trashcan and then on Dear Prudence they're much fuller ? Because Ringo and Paul miked the drums differently? Oh yes - my vote! Hmmmmmmm....tough one, indeed! I'll have to go with..... THE BEATLES 1 by a narrow margin, as I dislike "Wild Honey Pie" less than "I Want You" (Waaaay too long for my tastes, although I know many people like it.)
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Post by wooltonian on Jul 17, 2010 5:46:35 GMT -5
As soon as I saw this match-up on the thread heading I groaned and knew instantly that I needed a night in the pub and copious amounts of ale before a decision could be reached... ...will report back tomorrow. Who are you trying to kid? That's your way of deciding ANYTHING! JcS Pretty much spot on! ;D I'm going to go with Abbey Road - side one. It contains the one great song from both these sides in 'Come together' and the most interesting and unusual in terms of song construction and recording in 'I want you (she's so heavy)'. Many of the songs on WA-1 have faded in their appeal over the years and I find the combination of the Lennon sardonicism and McCartney cheeseball that's on offer a bit wearisome. The more I think about it, the more I reckon I'm a Beatles 65-67 man, first and foremost. From the White Album onwards, they had some great moments, but I find these last three albums very hit-and-miss (although I have a big soft spot for 'Let it be', and AR-2 is strong in terms of arrangement and production.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2010 6:02:51 GMT -5
ABBEY ROAD, Side 1 A couple of George classics on this side of Abbey Road, that was enough to sway my vote...... Only one George song on Side 1 - Something. correct ;D
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Post by JCV on Jul 17, 2010 12:50:22 GMT -5
Who are you trying to kid? That's your way of deciding ANYTHING! JcS Pretty much spot on! ;D I'm going to go with Abbey Road - side one. It contains the one great song from both these sides in 'Come together' and the most interesting and unusual in terms of song construction and recording in 'I want you (she's so heavy)'. Many of the songs on WA-1 have faded in their appeal over the years and I find the combination of the Lennon sardonicism and McCartney cheeseball that's on offer a bit wearisome. The more I think about it, the more I reckon I'm a Beatles 65-67 man, first and foremost. From the White Album onwards, they had some great moments, but I find these last three albums very hit-and-miss (although I have a big soft spot for 'Let it be', and AR-2 is strong in terms of arrangement and production.) All right, woolie! You must have had some of the good stuff! JCV
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Post by joeyself on Jul 17, 2010 13:23:02 GMT -5
I took TB 1, and without any hesitation. I voted against AR 1 in the last round, and my opinion of it hasn't changed in the past couple of weeks. Starting with the sonic blast of "Back In The USSR" and winding down with the quirky "Happiness Is A Warm Gun," I like everything on this side (well, OK, I could have done without the interlude of "Wild Honey Pie," but it's been there the whole time, so I'm used to it).
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Post by stavros on Jul 17, 2010 17:16:27 GMT -5
Well I've cogitated and now I think that TB1 wins simply because it only hits a bit of a low point with Wild Honey Pie and Bungalow Bill.
AR1 I once loved because it's immaculate production disguised the now annoying "Silver Hammer" and the cheesy "Octopus's Garden". "Come Together" , "Something" and then "Oh Darling" are pretty decent songs. "I Want You" is perhaps an inkling of how the Beatles may have progressed had things been different and they'd made another album or two. But TB1 is the best side of the "White Album" and as a whole it beats AR1 for me.
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Post by lowbasso on Jul 17, 2010 19:42:48 GMT -5
I could never stand the tinny drum sound on Back in the USSR, why are the drums so trashcan and then on Dear Prudence they're much fuller ? Because Ringo and Paul miked the drums differently? Oh yes - my vote! Hmmmmmmm....tough one, indeed! I'll have to go with..... THE BEATLES 1 by a narrow margin, as I dislike "Wild Honey Pie" less than "I Want You" (Waaaay too long for my tastes, although I know many people like it.) Didn't Paul also play drums on Dear Prudence as well? Don't have my Beatle books with me, but I thought those two songs were both done during Ringo's "absence".
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 18, 2010 4:45:55 GMT -5
Yes, Paul drummed on Dear Prudence.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Jul 18, 2010 9:22:52 GMT -5
Yes, Paul drummed on Dear Prudence. Oh. OK. I wasn't sure re: Prudence. Then I don't know the answer to ursamajor's question. Maybe someone should ask Geoff Emerick - if he even still remembers?
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Post by joeyself on Jul 18, 2010 19:36:43 GMT -5
Yes, Paul drummed on Dear Prudence. Oh. OK. I wasn't sure re: Prudence. Then I don't know the answer to ursamajor's question. Maybe someone should ask Geoff Emerick - if he even still remembers? Geoff wouldn't remember--because he wasn't there. Emerick quit in July, and those songs were recorded in August. The difference in sound could be due to the different engineers--Ken Scott on "USSR" and Barry Sheffield on "Prudence"--or that they were recorded in different studios (EMI for "USSR" and Trident for "Prudence"). Or it could be both... JcS
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