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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 7, 2012 6:07:44 GMT -5
If you don't know this song, play it here!
Then rate the song by voting in the poll, but ALSO PLEASE WRITE YOUR THOUGHTS HERE, AND TELL US WHICH NUMBER YOU CHOSE AND WHAT YOU ACTUALLY THINK OF THE SONG!
Thanks!
"Somedays" - Paul McCartney, FLAMING PIE (1997)
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 7, 2012 6:11:18 GMT -5
4 -- One of the best songs Paul ever did. Excellent ... touching... sublime... This sounds like a Beatles song to me, and this is the example I always bring up when trying to show that the solo Beatles have gems that are as good as their Beatles work.
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Post by coachbk on May 7, 2012 6:54:33 GMT -5
4 One of several fine songs on FLAMING PIE (my #4 ranked Paul album behind BAND ON THE RUN, RAM, and TUG OF WAR). Style and substance reminds me of "For No One", which is Paul at his best. Thus this song is also an example of Paul at his best!
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2012 7:40:19 GMT -5
Here are the lyrics....
Somedays...
Somedays I look I look at you with eyes that shine Somedays I don't I don't believe that you are mine It's no good asking me what time of day it is, Who won the match or scored the goal Somedays I look Somedays I look into your soul
Sometimes I laugh I laugh to think how young we were. Sometimes it's hard It's hard to know which way to turn
Don't ask me where I found that picture on the wall How much it cost or what it's worth Sometimes I laugh I laugh to think how young we were
We don't need anybody else To tell us what is real Inside each one of us is love And we know how it feels
Somedays I cry, I cry for those who live in fear Somedays I don't I don't remember why I'm here
No use reminding me, it's just the way it is Who ran the race or came in first Somedays I cry, I cry for those who fear the worst
We don't need anybody else To tell us what is real Inside each one of us is love And we know how it feels
Somedays I look, I look at you with eyes that shine Somedays I don't I don't believe that you are mine
It's no good asking me what time of day it is, Who won the match or scored the goal Somedays I look Somedays I look into your soul.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2012 7:41:17 GMT -5
Nice song from macca
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Post by vectisfabber on May 7, 2012 11:30:57 GMT -5
4
A mature, and greatly underrated, piece from Paul.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 7, 2012 12:50:20 GMT -5
4. I always thought Paul wrote this when he felt he might lose Linda. When he says "sometimes I look at you with eyes that shine" it implies to me that there were days when her eyes didn't shine, when the chemo made her sick or when she just felt bad. Some people say they can look in someone's eyes and see if they are healthy or not. I think there were days when Paul looked at Linda and thought she might be slipping away. I think he wrote this brilliant song in that context.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 7, 2012 12:51:35 GMT -5
4 -- One of the best songs Paul ever did. Excellent ... touching... sublime... This sounds like a Beatles song to me, and this is the example I always bring up when trying to show that the solo Beatles have gems that are as good as their Beatles work. Joe you're right about this and the former Beatles at least equalling their group work at times. This is a perfect example.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 7, 2012 13:00:46 GMT -5
4. I always thought Paul wrote this when he felt he might lose Linda. When he says "sometimes I look at you with eyes that shine" it implies to me that there were days when her eyes didn't shine, when the chemo made her sick or when she just felt bad. Some people say they can look in someone's eyes and see if they are healthy or not. I think there were days when Paul looked at Linda and thought she might be slipping away. I think he wrote this brilliant song in that context. It may have been Paul thinking about Linda, but I don't think it had to be about her sick days and chemo just because Paul writes that sometimes a person's eyes shine. And if you consider the lyrics more closely, it could also be Paul's eyes that shine "I look at you with eyes that shine". Paul says he wrote this song in two hours after driving Linda to a photogrpahy session for a cookery assignments she was doing, and he wanted to set a deadline to see if he could write a song in the time it took her to get finished. Sometimes it's really not more involved than that.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 7, 2012 13:20:33 GMT -5
4. I always thought Paul wrote this when he felt he might lose Linda. When he says "sometimes I look at you with eyes that shine" it implies to me that there were days when her eyes didn't shine, when the chemo made her sick or when she just felt bad. Some people say they can look in someone's eyes and see if they are healthy or not. I think there were days when Paul looked at Linda and thought she might be slipping away. I think he wrote this brilliant song in that context. It may have been Paul thinking about Linda, but I don't think it had to be about her sick days and chemo just because Paul writes that sometimes a person's eyes shine. And if you consider the lyrics more closely, it could also be Paul's eyes that shine "I look at you with eyes that shine". Paul says he wrote this song in two hours after driving Linda to a photogrpahy session for a cookery assignments she was doing, and he wanted to set a deadline to see if he could write a song in the time it took her to get finished. Sometimes it's really not more involved than that. That song was Young Boy not this one. But you have a point. It can be interpreted both ways. That's the characteristic of a good lyric. I suppose the line that got me thinking in that way was the follows up line: Somedays I look, I look at you with eyes that shine Somedays I don't I don't believe that you are mine It suggests to me that he realizes that their time together might be short and that their time together is precious. It the kind of revelation you might have when you think you might lose someone. Again, its subject to interpretation.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 7, 2012 13:28:15 GMT -5
It may have been Paul thinking about Linda, but I don't think it had to be about her sick days and chemo just because Paul writes that sometimes a person's eyes shine. And if you consider the lyrics more closely, it could also be Paul's eyes that shine "I look at you with eyes that shine". Paul says he wrote this song in two hours after driving Linda to a photogrpahy session for a cookery assignments she was doing, and he wanted to set a deadline to see if he could write a song in the time it took her to get finished. Sometimes it's really not more involved than that. That song was Young Boy not this one. Wrong. It was this one. Go and re-read the FLAMING PIE album notes. YOUNG BOY was yet another time when Paul "worked against the clock". In that case he said he wrote it in the time it took Linda to cook a lunch. Sometimes it can be a good thing. Other times it can be misunderstood (like John offending people who didn't get what he meant with "- and no religion too").
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 7, 2012 13:30:25 GMT -5
It suggests to me that he realizes that their time together might be short and that their time together is precious. It the kind of revelation you might have when you think you might lose someone. Again, its subject to interpretation. SOMEDAYS may even have been written before Linda was diagnosed.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 7, 2012 14:16:05 GMT -5
It suggests to me that he realizes that their time together might be short and that their time together is precious. It the kind of revelation you might have when you think you might lose someone. Again, its subject to interpretation. SOMEDAYS may even have been written before Linda was diagnosed. Linda was diagnosed in December, 1995. The song was written in the summer of 1996.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 7, 2012 14:18:24 GMT -5
SOMEDAYS may even have been written before Linda was diagnosed. Linda was diagnosed in December, 1995. The song was written in the summer of 1996. Are you sure you got the date of the song right? (I ask because you got the circumstances of how Paul came to write it incorrect).
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 7, 2012 14:39:47 GMT -5
Linda was diagnosed in December, 1995. The song was written in the summer of 1996. Are you sure you got the date of the song right? (I ask because you got the circumstances of how Paul came to write it incorrect). Yes the dates are right smarty pants. ;D Here is the story of Somedays: “I’d driven Linda to a session for one of her cookery assignments. Knowing she’d be about two hours, I set myself a deadline to write a song in that time – so that when she’d finished and would say ‘Did you get bored? What did you do?’, I could say ‘Oh, I wrote this song. Wanna hear it?” The circumstances were almost identical for Young Boy. Linda was cooking a lunch for a feature in the New York Times and Paul wanted to kill time while waiting and he liked to write with a deadline: “This was another written against the clock. I wrote it in the time that it took Linda to cook a lunch for a feature in The New York Times."
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 7, 2012 14:44:39 GMT -5
Here is the story of Somedays: “I’d driven Linda to a session for one of her cookery assignments. Knowing she’d be about two hours, I set myself a deadline to write a song in that time – so that when she’d finished and would say ‘Did you get bored? What did you do?’, I could say ‘Oh, I wrote this song. Wanna hear it?” The circumstances were almost identical for Young Boy. Linda was cooking a lunch for a feature in the New York Times and Paul wanted to kill time while waiting and he liked to write with a deadline: “This was another written against the clock. I wrote it in the time that it took Linda to cook a lunch for a feature in The New York Times." You don't have to tell me ... I already knew the circumstances with SOMEDAYS... it was you, "Mr. Infallible", who got it wrong!
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 7, 2012 15:12:49 GMT -5
Here is the story of Somedays: “I’d driven Linda to a session for one of her cookery assignments. Knowing she’d be about two hours, I set myself a deadline to write a song in that time – so that when she’d finished and would say ‘Did you get bored? What did you do?’, I could say ‘Oh, I wrote this song. Wanna hear it?” The circumstances were almost identical for Young Boy. Linda was cooking a lunch for a feature in the New York Times and Paul wanted to kill time while waiting and he liked to write with a deadline: “This was another written against the clock. I wrote it in the time that it took Linda to cook a lunch for a feature in The New York Times." You don't have to tell me ... I already knew the circumstances with SOMEDAYS... it was you, "Mr. Infallible", who got it wrong! I just asked if you ever heard of infalibility. I'm not going there.
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Post by kc on May 7, 2012 16:39:00 GMT -5
4. Gorgeous sounding. Great use of guitar. Nice singing. Some of the lyrics are a bit weak, so it's not perfect.
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Post by nicole21290 on May 7, 2012 20:08:35 GMT -5
It may have been Paul thinking about Linda, but I don't think it had to be about her sick days and chemo just because Paul writes that sometimes a person's eyes shine. And if you consider the lyrics more closely, it could also be Paul's eyes that shine "I look at you with eyes that shine". Paul says he wrote this song in two hours after driving Linda to a photogrpahy session for a cookery assignments she was doing, and he wanted to set a deadline to see if he could write a song in the time it took her to get finished. Sometimes it's really not more involved than that. That song was Young Boy not this one. But you have a point. It can be interpreted both ways. That's the characteristic of a good lyric. I suppose the line that got me thinking in that way was the follows up line: Somedays I look, I look at you with eyes that shine Somedays I don't I don't believe that you are mine It suggests to me that he realizes that their time together might be short and that their time together is precious. It the kind of revelation you might have when you think you might lose someone. Again, its subject to interpretation. I'd always thought, if any lyrics were to do with Linda's illness, these were: Somedays I cry, I cry for those who live in fear Somedays I cry, I cry for those who fear the worst Beautiful song, in any case. Just gorgeous and, as with many of these songs (incl. Calico Skies), I find it even more moving when watching that accompanying Flaming Pie related TV show.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 7, 2012 20:28:32 GMT -5
That song was Young Boy not this one. But you have a point. It can be interpreted both ways. That's the characteristic of a good lyric. I suppose the line that got me thinking in that way was the follows up line: Somedays I look, I look at you with eyes that shine Somedays I don't I don't believe that you are mine It suggests to me that he realizes that their time together might be short and that their time together is precious. It the kind of revelation you might have when you think you might lose someone. Again, its subject to interpretation. I'd always thought, if any lyrics were to do with Linda's illness, these were: Somedays I cry, I cry for those who live in fear Somedays I cry, I cry for those who fear the worst Beautiful song, in any case. Just gorgeous and, as with many of these songs (incl. Calico Skies), I find it even more moving when watching that accompanying Flaming Pie related TV show. Right, the whole song has a foreboding quality to it. The lyrics certainly fit that scenario.
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Post by ursamajor on May 7, 2012 21:04:32 GMT -5
I like this song it's a 4.0
The first six songs of Flaming Pie are 4.0's for me, unfortunately the album went downhill after that.
But this one would make the Beatles proud.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 7, 2012 22:50:36 GMT -5
4 but only if it really has meaning to Paul and is not just something he knocked off as a songwriting exercise. I think there was a Today Show interview with Paul where Matt Lauer pressed him on "Somedays" and Paul got a slight smile and all but admitted that "Somedays" might be more than an excercise in songwriting. Ah, I found the transcript and if you see the video, Paul knows Lauer is on to him as to "Somedays:" "MATT LAUER, co-host: Paul McCartney is one of the most prolific and successful recording artists of all time. His current album, "Flaming Pie," is his 68th release since he first recorded back with the Beatles back in the 1960s. Recently I sat down with McCartney at his recording studio in Sussex, England, and I asked him if songwriting comes as quickly to him these days as it did back then. Mr. PAUL McCARTNEY ("Flaming Pie"): This album actually is--was quite quick. There wasn't an awful lot of deliberation on the songs. A little trick I have was--during this album, I did it on two songs: "Some Days" and "Young Boy." Two songs. What would happen was, Linda would be going to a cookery assignment. So I said, `Well, I'll drive you. I'm not doing anything.' We're kind of out on holiday. I said, `Well, I'll drive you and I'll bring you back.' You know. I like her, she's great. And I'm cheap. So I drove her there. I take my guitar in case there's nothing for me to do, as there often is. So I'll just go into the little back room and I'll make it--make it a little sort of game with myself and say, `OK, I'm going to write a song in the next three hours.' Because when they finished, one of them--probably one of them is bound to say, `Did you get bored? What did you do?' You know. LAUER: Right. Mr. McCARTNEY: And I'll say, well, I wrote a song. And they go, `Never. Three hours? What?' I say sure, you want to hear? And it focuses me. LAUER: Well, you mentioned the song "Some Days." Mr. McCARTNEY: Hmm. LAUER: Tell me about that song. Mr. McCARTNEY: Well, I was doing the cookery thing. See, I'm cheap... LAUER: I mean, what's--what's the inspiration for that song? Mr. McCARTNEY: Inspiration. It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking. And someone like me--when you've learned to songwrite, it gives you the confidence to just reach in there and find something. Eleanor Rigby. Rice, church, picks up. Oh, OK. We know where we're going. LAUER: Is "Some Days" a love song? Mr. McCARTNEY: Yeah. LAUER: Is it written for Linda? Mr. McCARTNEY: Any love song I write is written for Linda. Yeah. LAUER: Wh--what did she say the first time you played it for her? Mr. McCARTNEY: `That's a nice song, dear.' No, I can't remember what she said. `Great,' she loved it." Here's the link to the full transcript: www.macca-central.com/macca-archives/nbc-today7-97.asp
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 8, 2012 5:56:46 GMT -5
Mr. McCARTNEY: Inspiration. It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking. And someone like me--when you've learned to songwrite, it gives you the confidence to just reach in there and find something. Eleanor Rigby. Rice, church, picks up. Oh, OK. We know where we're going. LAUER: Is "Some Days" a love song? Mr. McCARTNEY: Yeah. LAUER: Is it written for Linda? Mr. McCARTNEY: Any love song I write is written for Linda. Yeah. LAUER: Wh--what did she say the first time you played it for her? Mr. McCARTNEY: `That's a nice song, dear.' No, I can't remember what she said. `Great,' she loved it." Here again is still more proof from Paul himself that he basically just writes songs and most of the time doesn't even know what they're about or why, things just come to him with little meaning. Then a dedicated Paul fan such as our own RTP comes along to take the liberty of telling us (and Paul) what the song "means". I don't say that "all" of Paul's songs are meaningless and uninspired; obviously that isn't the case (HEY JUDE and LITTLE WILLOW come to mind for starters). But let's face it, fans often read into things that Paul and the others never intended.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2012 6:13:35 GMT -5
Mr. McCARTNEY: Inspiration. It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking. And someone like me--when you've learned to songwrite, it gives you the confidence to just reach in there and find something. Eleanor Rigby. Rice, church, picks up. Oh, OK. We know where we're going. LAUER: Is "Some Days" a love song? Mr. McCARTNEY: Yeah. LAUER: Is it written for Linda? Mr. McCARTNEY: Any love song I write is written for Linda. Yeah. LAUER: Wh--what did she say the first time you played it for her? Mr. McCARTNEY: `That's a nice song, dear.' No, I can't remember what she said. `Great,' she loved it." Here again is still more proof from Paul himself that he basically just writes songs and most of the time doesn't even know what they're about or why, things just come to him with little meaning. Then a dedicated Paul fan such as our own RTP comes along to take the liberty of telling us (and Paul) what the song "means". I don't say that "all" of Paul's songs are meaningless and uninspired; obviously that isn't the case (HEY JUDE and LITTLE WILLOW come to mind for starters). But let's face it, fans often read into things that Paul and the others never intended. Don't get him started on Maxwell's Silver Hammer...
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 8, 2012 15:51:26 GMT -5
Mr. McCARTNEY: Inspiration. It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking. And someone like me--when you've learned to songwrite, it gives you the confidence to just reach in there and find something. Eleanor Rigby. Rice, church, picks up. Oh, OK. We know where we're going. LAUER: Is "Some Days" a love song? Mr. McCARTNEY: Yeah. LAUER: Is it written for Linda? Mr. McCARTNEY: Any love song I write is written for Linda. Yeah. LAUER: Wh--what did she say the first time you played it for her? Mr. McCARTNEY: `That's a nice song, dear.' No, I can't remember what she said. `Great,' she loved it." Here again is still more proof from Paul himself that he basically just writes songs and most of the time doesn't even know what they're about or why, things just come to him with little meaning. Then a dedicated Paul fan such as our own RTP comes along to take the liberty of telling us (and Paul) what the song "means". I don't say that "all" of Paul's songs are meaningless and uninspired; obviously that isn't the case (HEY JUDE and LITTLE WILLOW come to mind for starters). But let's face it, fans often read into things that Paul and the others never intended. You are conflating two things here. When Matt asked him about inspiration, Paul immediately went toward explaining where the melody came from. That is what he was referring to when he said It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know "where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking." He is saying coming up with a tune such as that is magical, unexplainable. The lyrics are another matter. Matt was talking about the lyrics and Paul was on the melody. You can't diminish the beautiful and heartfelt lyrics of this song. You are trying to say Paul had nothing to say, no emotion to convey in this song and that is just wrong. You can hear it in his vocal. Linda was sick at the time with breast cancer. You can't deny that. His mother had died from 40 years earlier. It was bound to be on his mind. I don't know what you are trying to say. Paul's lyrics have meaning. He writes in such a clever way that you can discern more than one meaning often. He might not know where he is going at the beginning of writing the song. He doesn't sit down and say "now I'm going to write a song about poverty'. That would be too contrived and hackneyed. He writes in a more organic and less by the numbers method. I think you need to take a break and give Paul some credit for his lyrics once in a while.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 8, 2012 15:53:20 GMT -5
4 but only if it really has meaning to Paul and is not just something he knocked off as a songwriting exercise. I think there was a Today Show interview with Paul where Matt Lauer pressed him on "Somedays" and Paul got a slight smile and all but admitted that "Somedays" might be more than an excercise in songwriting. Ah, I found the transcript and if you see the video, Paul knows Lauer is on to him as to "Somedays:" "MATT LAUER, co-host: Paul McCartney is one of the most prolific and successful recording artists of all time. His current album, "Flaming Pie," is his 68th release since he first recorded back with the Beatles back in the 1960s. Recently I sat down with McCartney at his recording studio in Sussex, England, and I asked him if songwriting comes as quickly to him these days as it did back then. Mr. PAUL McCARTNEY ("Flaming Pie"): This album actually is--was quite quick. There wasn't an awful lot of deliberation on the songs. A little trick I have was--during this album, I did it on two songs: "Some Days" and "Young Boy." Two songs. What would happen was, Linda would be going to a cookery assignment. So I said, `Well, I'll drive you. I'm not doing anything.' We're kind of out on holiday. I said, `Well, I'll drive you and I'll bring you back.' You know. I like her, she's great. And I'm cheap. So I drove her there. I take my guitar in case there's nothing for me to do, as there often is. So I'll just go into the little back room and I'll make it--make it a little sort of game with myself and say, `OK, I'm going to write a song in the next three hours.' Because when they finished, one of them--probably one of them is bound to say, `Did you get bored? What did you do?' You know. LAUER: Right. Mr. McCARTNEY: And I'll say, well, I wrote a song. And they go, `Never. Three hours? What?' I say sure, you want to hear? And it focuses me. LAUER: Well, you mentioned the song "Some Days." Mr. McCARTNEY: Hmm. LAUER: Tell me about that song. Mr. McCARTNEY: Well, I was doing the cookery thing. See, I'm cheap... LAUER: I mean, what's--what's the inspiration for that song? Mr. McCARTNEY: Inspiration. It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking. And someone like me--when you've learned to songwrite, it gives you the confidence to just reach in there and find something. Eleanor Rigby. Rice, church, picks up. Oh, OK. We know where we're going. LAUER: Is "Some Days" a love song? Mr. McCARTNEY: Yeah. LAUER: Is it written for Linda? Mr. McCARTNEY: Any love song I write is written for Linda. Yeah. LAUER: Wh--what did she say the first time you played it for her? Mr. McCARTNEY: `That's a nice song, dear.' No, I can't remember what she said. `Great,' she loved it." Here's the link to the full transcript: www.macca-central.com/macca-archives/nbc-today7-97.aspI don't know if this really illustrated the point you expressed.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 8, 2012 16:09:48 GMT -5
You are conflating two things here. When Matt asked him about inspiration, Paul immediately went toward explaining where the melody came from. That is what he was referring to when he said It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know "where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking." He is saying coming up with a tune such as that is magical, unexplainable. The lyrics are another matter. Matt was talking about the lyrics and Paul was on the melody. You can't diminish the beautiful and heartfelt lyrics of this song. You are trying to say Paul had nothing to say, no emotion to convey in this song and that is just wrong. You can hear it in his vocal. Linda was sick at the time with breast cancer. You can't deny that. His mother had died from 40 years earlier. It was bound to be on his mind. I don't know what you are trying to say. Paul's lyrics have meaning. He writes in such a clever way that you can discern more than one meaning often. He might not know where he is going at the beginning of writing the song. He doesn't sit down and say "now I'm going to write a song about poverty'. That would be too contrived and hackneyed. He writes in a more organic and less by the numbers method. I think you need to take a break and give Paul some credit for his lyrics once in a while. I think you need to take a break and stop wiping Paul's ass once in a while. You're really something else, RTP. I LOVE this song SOMEDAYS and I am always praising it to the hilt -- and that includes the lyrics here. And there are plenty of Paul McCartney songs which I credit as having good lyrics. Your problem is that you cannot handle any -- and I mean ANY -- criticism of Paul in any way, shape, or form. Two times recently I have posted a quote from Paul from the Aspel show in 1984 where Paul said himself that he very rarely writes songs about himself and his own life, and that George Harrison used to ask him "how can you do that?". And both of the times I've brought this quote up, you danced past it. Many times Paul has said he just makes up lyrics to fit into the melody much of the time. Why is it you are aware of every word that Paul has ever uttered except for these explanations of how he often writes? Getting back to SOMEDAYS -- What!? I love everything about this song! Including its tear-jerking and wonderful words and sentiments! SOMEDAYS is not one of those times where I think Paul is writing nothing. Now, you may think whatever you like as to what he's singing about here.... You think he's directly referencing Linda's cancer with that one line, and I don't. I think the words in this song are wonderful, and highly touching --- I just don't think Paul's looking into Linda's cancer-filled eyes that "some days shine". Don't go around telling everyone the "truth" when they're just your own interpretations. (I realize you've said Paul writes songs open to different interpretations, but you still push for yours as "correct"). You do not know all there is to know about Paul's songs and everyone else's songs. Please don't ruin this gorgeous song for me as you've ruined so much by making me have to take Paul down a few pegs because you're so overbearing about him, okay? As to his lyrics, yeah -- Paul was never generally considered a great lyricist. This is common knowledge and opinion, it's not something I created. However, that doesn't mean Paul "never" writes great lyrics... I believe he has a number of times ... and I think SOMEDAYS is one of those times where he wrote some great ones. (Even if the only inspiration for them here was for Paul to see how quickly he could knock off a song in the time it took Linda to be done with her appointment one typical day). Or OK -- maybe they're specifically about Linda and her cancer. But I hear more of a concern for the people of the world in this song, just as well. How much money do you spend a day on toilet paper for Paul?
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Post by John S. Damm on May 8, 2012 22:29:36 GMT -5
I don't know if this really illustrated the point you expressed. I agree in print it is not as clear but I watched this interview when first broadcast and where I truly believe Lauer called out Paul in a respectful way was when Matt zooms in on Paul's earlier reference to "Somedays:" LAUER: Well, you mentioned the song "Some Days." Mr. McCARTNEY: Hmm. LAUER: Tell me about that song. Mr. McCARTNEY: Well, I was doing the cookery thing. See, I'm cheap... But this is where one really needs to watch the video to see the facial expressions and tone in voice of Matt and Paul" LAUER: I mean, what's--what's the inspiration for that song? Matt stammers with the "what's-what's" he was clearly being very delicate about this because Linda is still alive but ill when this interview takes place. What was critical and made me say ""Wow" was Paul's very careful response: Mr. McCARTNEY: Inspiration. It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking. And someone like me--when you've learned to songwrite, it gives you the confidence to just reach in there and find something. Eleanor Rigby. Rice, church, picks up. Oh, OK. We know where we're going. There should have been a question mark after Paul's repeating the word, inspiration. There was a pause with Paul looking intently at Matt and he says very carefully: "It's very difficult." He goes off then into vagaries again. But when you watch this exchange, Paul with his facial expressions and tone of voice seems to admit that "Somedays" was in response to Linda's ongoing illness. I watched it and clearly walked away with that impression. Remember, Linda was still alive so maybe Paul didn't want to state the obvious so as not to upset her. The exchange was revealing and not done justice in mere print.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 9, 2012 9:00:07 GMT -5
I don't know if this really illustrated the point you expressed. I agree in print it is not as clear but I watched this interview when first broadcast and where I truly believe Lauer called out Paul in a respectful way was when Matt zooms in on Paul's earlier reference to "Somedays:" LAUER: Well, you mentioned the song "Some Days." Mr. McCARTNEY: Hmm. LAUER: Tell me about that song. Mr. McCARTNEY: Well, I was doing the cookery thing. See, I'm cheap... But this is where one really needs to watch the video to see the facial expressions and tone in voice of Matt and Paul" LAUER: I mean, what's--what's the inspiration for that song? Matt stammers with the "what's-what's" he was clearly being very delicate about this because Linda is still alive but ill when this interview takes place. What was critical and made me say ""Wow" was Paul's very careful response: Mr. McCARTNEY: Inspiration. It's very difficult. I know there is an inspiration but I don't know where it comes from. It's like a vast reservoir of music out there. All these atoms contain all the music there ever was. And it's all there for the picking. And someone like me--when you've learned to songwrite, it gives you the confidence to just reach in there and find something. Eleanor Rigby. Rice, church, picks up. Oh, OK. We know where we're going. There should have been a question mark after Paul's repeating the word, inspiration. There was a pause with Paul looking intently at Matt and he says very carefully: "It's very difficult." He goes off then into vagaries again. But when you watch this exchange, Paul with his facial expressions and tone of voice seems to admit that "Somedays" was in response to Linda's ongoing illness. I watched it and clearly walked away with that impression. Remember, Linda was still alive so maybe Paul didn't want to state the obvious so as not to upset her. The exchange was revealing and not done justice in mere print. Now I get it. You go into more detail and I think you're right. Paul was trying to steer clear of talking about the inspiration because it is emotional for him. Its clear from Nicole's post with these lyrics: Somedays I cry, I cry for those who live in fear Somedays I cry, I cry for those who fear the worst But I was taken aback by Joe K's remarks. Maybe I misread them. I know he gave the song a 4, but this is what he posted in response to the interview: I agree that fans read things into Paul's lyrics that may or may not be there, but that is the sign of a clever lyricist. Also, in the case of Somedays, there is a definite sadness and worry to Paul's voice and the lyrics indicate something was on his mind. He just doesn't knock us over the head with it. Like a country song or usual pop song, he doesn't state the obvious to garner more emotion. He really has such an elegant and subtle style on many of his songs. And it doesn't take a rabid fan to discern Paul's meanings. It just takes someone who doesn't take everything at face value. Paul uses more metaphores than many people realize. For example, Little Lamb Dragonfly. Yes, a lamb died at the farm and that got things going on the lyric. But as so often happens with Paul, he takes it much further than that. But if you get stuck with the literal meaning, you miss any deeper meaning. If you buy the idea that Paul is so shallow that he can't write songs with deep meaning, then you say things like "Paul doesn't know what he is writing about most of the time."
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 9, 2012 9:17:35 GMT -5
Its clear from Nicole's post with these lyrics: Somedays I cry, I cry for those who live in fear Somedays I cry, I cry for those who fear the worst How is that clear? I always take those lyrics to mean that Paul's heart goes out to the countless people suffering and fearing with their own troubles in the world. I don't attribute these words directly to Linda. I stand by what I wrote there. You've got no business declaring what Paul means in his songs as if you're "certain", if Paul doesn't come right out and say so. They are your own interpretation and nothing more. You have heard every quote Paul has ever uttered and yet you conveniently disregard every time he's ever said that he 'mainly' writes melodies and then sticks words in to fit later on. Meanwhile, you just keep harping on my first remark after I elaborated afterward on my original comments and praised the words of SOMEDAYS as being great lyrics coming from Paul's heart. I said this song is an example of Paul's fine lyrics. And why do you keep ignoring -- as I have pointed out for, what, like the THIRD or FOURTH time now --? --- the 1984 Aspel TV show comment for Paul when he says George used to ask Paul why he doesn't tap into his own experiences when writing songs, asking Paul how he could do that. (George meaning that he couldn't write like that, as he needs to tap into himself). So did Paul lie one way or the other? First he says he wrote it just as an exercise to kill time (which he also put into the CD liner notes)... and then he smiles when Matt Lauer asks if the song was about Lind so he says "yeah". Why does Paul first describe it as a knockoff with a time limit, and later waffle a bit with Linda? I don't know if you've done so yet or not, but I hope you will address my last reply to you from yesterday. Oh, knock it off. Do you know where I get that quote from? PAUL HIMSELF! That's right --- countless times over the years when pressed as to where certain songs come from or what they mean, Paul often says he himself doesn't even know, that they often (not ' always') are just words. It's amazing how you know every fart Paul ever let loose and every syllable he has ever said, and yet you never heard him admit most of his songs are just words stuck into a melody. Read more: abbeyrd.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=joek&thread=3679&page=1#ixzz1uNlS8r43
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