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Post by mikev on Jun 6, 2012 11:59:24 GMT -5
I just read that NBC is revampping the Munsters with Jerry O'Connel (Sliders) playing Herman. But instead of a half-hour sitcom, it will be a one hour drama. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HOW can you make the Munsters a DRAMA? If they are trying to tap into the whole werewolves and vampire drama thing using these characters- I just can't imagine how they could POSSIBLY pull this off! Could be the stupidest thing since The Bradys and Cop Rock .
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 6, 2012 12:11:28 GMT -5
Don't get me started. You should know my reputation for skewering absurd modernized TV and Movie Remakes over on my "Film Board"! ;D
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jun 6, 2012 12:39:31 GMT -5
I have to admit that the Brady remakes weren't that bad. But "Cop Rock" is legendary bad.
Yeah, this sounds like some idiot board room idea. Jeeez.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 6, 2012 12:52:57 GMT -5
Wow, instead of the loveable Al Lewis as Grandpa we will have some vicious, gothic vampire all bloody and gory. And Lily Munster will go around horrifically murdering the neighborhood children for their blood as Lucy did in Stoker's Dracula! Even Eddie Munster will rip apart and kill dogs and other small mammals. The only good thing about a drama is that we might see more skin and some action with hot Marilyn but even she wouldn't be safe from her "family." I don't like this idea at all. I'd rather have the new Yellow Submarine movie that got shelved.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 6, 2012 13:05:52 GMT -5
I don't like this idea at all. I'd rather have the new Yellow Submarine movie that got shelved. Or -- even better -- how about brand new ideas in TV and Movies?
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Post by mikev on Jun 6, 2012 13:25:21 GMT -5
I have to admit that the Brady remakes weren't that bad. But "Cop Rock" is legendary bad. Yeah, this sounds like some idiot board room idea. Jeeez. I didn't mean the hilarious Brady movie with Diane Chambers as Carol Brady, but the drama series where Martha Quinn was married to Bobby Brady, who got paralized, Sam the butcher went on a murder spree and Marcia came out french smoochin Laurie Partridge on a Jerry Springer like episode Okay I'm kiddin' about the last two...don't get too excited JSD!! ;D
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 6, 2012 13:50:07 GMT -5
I have to admit that the Brady remakes weren't that bad. But "Cop Rock" is legendary bad. Yeah, this sounds like some idiot board room idea. Jeeez. I didn't mean the hilarious Brady movie with Diane Chambers as Carol Brady, but the drama series where Martha Quinn was married to Bobby Brady, who got paralized, Sam the butcher went on a murder spree and Marcia came out french smoochin Laurie Partridge on a Jerry Springer like episode Okay I'm kiddin' about the last two...don't get too excited JSD!! ;D The Brady Movie with Shelley Long was hilarious. Davy Jones had a huge role in it. Marcia Brady and Laurie Partridge would be so HOT! But Jan Brady and Laurie kissing would just be wrong! Braces might lock. With Munsters, there is no way you could do that as a drama! Vampires don't mate with man-made monsters. And they don't have werewolf offspring(Eddie was a werewolf right or did he just have a living werewolf doll?). Part of the comedy of the original series was knowing how zany those pairings were. They might as well had a zombie aunt living with them! ;D
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Post by mikev on Jun 6, 2012 14:36:19 GMT -5
I didn't mean the hilarious Brady movie with Diane Chambers as Carol Brady, but the drama series where Martha Quinn was married to Bobby Brady, who got paralized, Sam the butcher went on a murder spree and Marcia came out french smoochin Laurie Partridge on a Jerry Springer like episode Okay I'm kiddin' about the last two...don't get too excited JSD!! ;D The Brady Movie with Shelley Long was hilarious. Davy Jones had a huge role in it. Marcia Brady and Laurie Partridge would be so HOT! But Jan Brady and Laurie kissing would just be wrong! Braces might lock. With Munsters, there is no way you could do that as a drama! Vampires don't mate with man-made monsters. And they don't have werewolf offspring(Eddie was a werewolf right or did he just have a living werewolf doll?). Part of the comedy of the original series was knowing how zany those pairings were. They might as well had a zombie aunt living with them! ;D I guess it can be campy drama like Desperate Housewifes and the fairy tail show that just finished up. Maybe even like Heroes, which I loved but watched only on Netflix and not its original run. An earlier example would be Dark Shadows- the original series. I do wonder if Jerry O'Connel will wear the original Universal Frankenstein make-up. I just can't see it. Eddie was a werewolf and Goofy was a dog.. (nod to Jerry O'Connell's original acting gig as the fat kid in Stand By Me).
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Post by mikev on Jun 6, 2012 14:44:44 GMT -5
I can see it now- an episode where Eddie actually gets worse when the doctor puts him on lithium, Herman files a lawsuit for discrimination in the office, Grampa disappears in the Munster mobile and a Gray Amber Alert goes out, and Lily tries to spice up her sex life in a adulterous romp with Gomez Adams.
Meanwhile Marilyn tries to get it on with the latest boyfriend under the stairs, where he gets third degree burns on his rump from Spot (the dragon) ;D
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 6, 2012 22:18:37 GMT -5
I can see it now- an episode where Eddie actually gets worse when the doctor puts him on lithium, Herman files a lawsuit for discrimination in the office, Grampa disappears in the Munster mobile and a Gray Amber Alert goes out, and Lily tries to spice up her sex life in a adulterous romp with Gomez Adams. Meanwhile Marilyn tries to get it on with the latest boyfriend under the stairs, where he gets third degree burns on his rump from Spot (the dragon) ;D LOL! I wonder who will play Marilyn? Maybe Lily and Morticia can hook up! Has anyone here ever met Butch Patrick at a car show or Sci Fi convention?
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Post by sayne on Jun 6, 2012 23:38:42 GMT -5
. . . An earlier example would be Dark Shadows- the original series. Well, if they can take a drama like Dark Shadows and remake it into a dark comedy, they can try to do it with the Munsters. Also, remember how they took the Lou Grant character from the Mary Tyler Moore sitcom and turned him into a serious character in a drama?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 7, 2012 5:38:55 GMT -5
Has anyone here ever met Butch Patrick at a car show or Sci Fi convention? Oh, sure. I met him at a show in 1991. He was very cool and down to earth, I recall. I'm a big MUNSTERS fan and have also met Pat Priest and -- best of all -- Al Lewis. I don't know if you're aware, but from 1987 to around 1992 or so, Lewis opened an Italian restaurant in the West Village (NYC) called "GRAMPA's"... and I went there to eat a few times and was able to chat with Lewis, get his autograph, and a photo together with him! I never met Fred Gwynne, but on the very first Grand Opening evening of "GRAMPA'S" in 1987, Gwynne appeared for the media blitz and I got to see him and Al Lewis posing for the news.
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Post by mikev on Jun 7, 2012 8:22:12 GMT -5
. . . An earlier example would be Dark Shadows- the original series. Well, if they can take a drama like Dark Shadows and remake it into a dark comedy, they can try to do it with the Munsters. Also, remember how they took the Lou Grant character from the Mary Tyler Moore sitcom and turned him into a serious character in a drama? Yeah, but how can you take a guy that looks like Frankenstein's monster in real life and make it into a drama? If you make him like the original Universal monster, he'd sit at the dinner table- declare bread "good" then proceed to rip apart his family limb from limb. One and done trauma drama ;D...
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 7, 2012 10:24:11 GMT -5
Has anyone here ever met Butch Patrick at a car show or Sci Fi convention? Oh, sure. I met him at a show in 1991. He was very cool and down to earth, I recall. I'm a big MUNSTERS fan and have also met Pat Priest and -- best of all -- Al Lewis. I don't know if you're aware, but from 1987 to around 1992 or so, Lewis opened an Italian restaurant in the West Village (NYC) called "GRAMPA's"... and I went there to eat a few times and was able to chat with Lewis, get his autograph, and a photo together with him! I never met Fred Gwynne, but on the very first Grand Opening evening of "GRAMPA'S" in 1987, Gwynne appeared for the media blitz and I got to see him and Al Lewis posing for the news. What side were you on in the Marilyn controversy, Joe? I loved original Marilyn, Beverley Owen from Season 1 but she disliked the role. Pat Priest is cool too. It is funny how cast changes can divide the fan base. I still think of the drumming scandal with that famous Rock Band(no not The Beatles), The Partridge Family. My younger brother and I fought like wild dogs over that, I supporting original Jeremy Gelbwaks and my brother fiercely defending Brian Forster for no better reason than my little Bro's middle name is Brian. The PF fired the Ringo and hired the Pete! Ass backwards! I join with MikeV and JoeK in demanding that production stop on the new Munsters. Nothing good will come out of this and I remember The New Monkees, a group/show maybe even OldFred found hard to love.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 7, 2012 15:02:35 GMT -5
What side were you on in the Marilyn controversy, Joe? I loved original Marilyn, Beverley Owen from Season 1 but she disliked the role. Beverley Owen all the way!
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Post by mikev on Jun 7, 2012 16:24:02 GMT -5
What side were you on in the Marilyn controversy, Joe? I loved original Marilyn, Beverley Owen from Season 1 but she disliked the role. Beverly Owen all the way! Wasn't there a third Marilyn in Munster Go Home? And a fourth in the pilot with a different Lily?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jun 7, 2012 17:28:46 GMT -5
Wasn't there a third Marilyn in Munster Go Home? And a fourth in the pilot with a different Lily? There was a third Marilyn for MUNSTER, GO HOME.... but the original pilot always had Beverley Owen...
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Post by winstonoboogie on Jun 8, 2012 21:00:22 GMT -5
Has anyone here ever met Butch Patrick at a car show or Sci Fi convention? Oh, sure. I met him at a show in 1991. He was very cool and down to earth, I recall. I met him when Beatlefest the Fest for Beatles Fans was in Orlando. I gushed like a fan boy to the point he probably thought I was a stalker! I praised his work in The Phantom Tollbooth and the Christmas Monkees episode (Fred knows what I'm talking about!) He was very patient with my gushing. (Good thing I forgot he was in Lidsville - I would have gushed about that too!) ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 0:44:29 GMT -5
Don't get me started. You should know my reputation for skewering absurd modernized TV and Movie Remakes over on my "Film Board"! ;D Film Board
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 11, 2012 8:29:04 GMT -5
Oh, sure. I met him at a show in 1991. He was very cool and down to earth, I recall. I met him when Beatlefest the Fest for Beatles Fans was in Orlando. I gushed like a fan boy to the point he probably thought I was a stalker! I praised his work in The Phantom Tollbooth and the Christmas Monkees episode (Fred knows what I'm talking about!) He was very patient with my gushing. (Good thing I forgot he was in Lidsville - I would have gushed about that too!) ;D That's pretty cool! I always wanted to meet Ritchie from The Dick Van Dyke Show. His performance of "The Little Drummer Boy" on the show's Christmas special was Ringo-worthy. Man, his stage mom was Mary Tyler Moore when she was smoking hot!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 8:33:30 GMT -5
I met him when Beatlefest the Fest for Beatles Fans was in Orlando. I gushed like a fan boy to the point he probably thought I was a stalker! I praised his work in The Phantom Tollbooth and the Christmas Monkees episode (Fred knows what I'm talking about!) He was very patient with my gushing. (Good thing I forgot he was in Lidsville - I would have gushed about that too!) ;D That's pretty cool! I always wanted to meet Ritchie from The Dick Van Dyke Show. His performance of "The Little Drummer Boy" on the show's Christmas special was Ringo-worthy. Man, his stage mom was Mary Tyler Moore when she was smoking hot! Mary was a hot unit in her day
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Post by mikev on Oct 12, 2012 5:56:57 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 12, 2012 5:59:20 GMT -5
Yeah, I heard about this on one of my horror movie message boards. I'm a huge fan of the original MUNSTERS so I really did not care much for this idea. But hearing it will now be a one-shot special and not a whole new TV series takes the sting off a bit.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 12, 2012 9:20:13 GMT -5
I think this will be awesome, a nice little birthday present to me on my Halloween birthday! I love the comments to the article where these people all talk about the original The Munsters being classic television. It ran for what, two or three years? It was deemed low-brow stuff back then. The "high-brow" horror people all loved The Addams Family just like the true sci-fi people thumbed their noses at Lost In Space in favor of Star Trek. Talk about revisionism and rampant nostalgia! The Munsters was a novelty show for a couple of seasons but now it is treated like Orson Welles! I could buy a $20.00 chair from Wal-Mart and if it is around 100 years from now is it a valuable antique or still just a cheap chair made in China! New Munsters will rock, be better than the old!
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Post by OldFred on Oct 12, 2012 13:14:12 GMT -5
It's official, Hollywood has run out of ideas and is creatively bankrupt.
Star Trek is the only series that has a modicum of success because they went with a whole new cast and premise rather than try and recast the old characters. Even the recent new Star Trek movie has the crew at the beginning with a whole new slate of adventures to come. They tried it with the New Monkees in 1987 and it flopped big time.
Munsters with a Twilight spin? No thank you!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 13, 2012 7:05:24 GMT -5
I love the comments to the article where these people all talk about the original The Munsters being classic television. It ran for what, two or three years? THE MUNSTERS is classic, whether you think so or not, Mister. (And doesn't it take TIME before things are labeled "classic"?). All sorts of games, comic books, toys, etc, were released in the '60s and kids loved the show even while it was on the air; the show was HUGELY popular -- as a fan I have all sorts of documentaries on it, where the cast made many guest appearances and toured in their costumes. It does not matter one single bit that The Munsters then found its classic niche even moreso later on in syndicated re-runs... so what? What about STAR TREK?? We all know what a "classic" STAR TREK is today, but in its actual day, it only lasted 79 episodes (for the record, that is only 9 episodes longer than THE MUNSTERS, which was 70). It was the diehard fans writing letters to get ST back on the air in re-runs that catapulted it into the classic it is today; STAR TREK was never a big hit when it was actually new and on the air for the first time. As an aside, what about THE HONEYMOONERS? It was never as big at the time as it is now, and it only lasted 39 episodes! This is a typical JSD nonsense remark designed to provoke. I'm sure even you don't really believe this. Give me THE MUNSTERS over THE ADDAMS FAMILY any day (Munsters still has a bigger following there)... and give me LOST IN SPACE over STAR TREK!
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 13, 2012 10:37:36 GMT -5
I love the comments to the article where these people all talk about the original The Munsters being classic television. It ran for what, two or three years? THE MUNSTERS is classic, whether you think so or not, Mister. (And doesn't it take TIME before things are labeled "classic"?). All sorts of games, comic books, toys, etc, were released in the '60s and kids loved the show even while it was on the air; the show was HUGELY popular -- as a fan I have all sorts of documentaries on it, where the cast made many guest appearances and toured in their costumes. It does not matter one single bit that The Munsters then found its classic niche even moreso later on in syndicated re-runs... so what? What about STAR TREK?? We all know what a "classic" STAR TREK is today, but in its actual day, it only lasted 79 episodes (for the record, that is only 9 episodes longer than THE MUNSTERS, which was 70). It was the diehard fans writing letters to get ST back on the air in re-runs that catapulted it into the classic it is today; STAR TREK was never a big hit when it was actually new and on the air for the first time. As an aside, what about THE HONEYMOONERS? It was never as big at the time as it is now, and it only lasted 39 episodes! This is a typical JSD nonsense remark designed to provoke. I'm sure even you don't really believe this. Give me THE MUNSTERS over THE ADDAMS FAMILY any day (Munsters still has a bigger following there)... and give me LOST IN SPACE over STAR TREK! Lost in Space over Star Trek??? I think that's pushing the envelope a bit. Lost in Space was pretty juvenile compared to Star Trek IMO.
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 13, 2012 10:39:23 GMT -5
It's official, Hollywood has run out of ideas and is creatively bankrupt. Star Trek is the only series that has a modicum of success because they went with a whole new cast and premise rather than try and recast the old characters. Even the recent new Star Trek movie has the crew at the beginning with a whole new slate of adventures to come. They tried it with the New Monkees in 1987 and it flopped big time. Munsters with a Twilight spin? No thank you! Best 60's show IMO; The Twilight Zone.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Oct 13, 2012 12:28:06 GMT -5
Re-doing the Munsters as a "Twilight" cousin is terribly stupid. Underscore stupid.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 13, 2012 12:35:11 GMT -5
Lost in Space over Star Trek??? I think that's pushing the envelope a bit. Lost in Space was pretty juvenile compared to Star Trek IMO. Yes, LOST IN SPACE was juvenile compared to STAR TREK -- but I still love it. I'm not sure how it's 'pushing the envelope' when I am only merely stating that it's my personal preference! (By the way, I have come to enjoy the original TREK!) .
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