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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 13, 2015 11:01:08 GMT -5
Once again McCartney talking out his ass about John! God it sucks that John and George are not still here to rebut Paul! Oh great Now he and Yoko will be back to feuding and it will be ten years before we see Let it Be. Really Paul? that's all you got??? How about the usual BS SOP..."yeah me and Ringo are bouncing around reforming the group with Jeff and Joe......" Paul's big headline now around the internet is, "John's whole life was a cry for help." There were aspects of that in John's life by his own admissions but every minute of it!? I gleefully think of when John was in his "House-husband" years and Paul was saying things like, "John's done everything but be John" and when John started to do interviews again in 1980 he dismissed all of Paul's speculation and as to that latter quote, John hilariously said, "What the hell does that mean?!" John also wrote a song about such speculation, "Watching The Wheels." I just think Paul threw this recent observation out too casually, too insensitively.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 3:55:20 GMT -5
I bought the standard dvd of Beatles 1 today and ordered the deluxe dvd. My wife has taken the standard one and wants the deluxe one when i get it. She will wrap them and give them back to me on December 5th, my birthday. 3 weeks to wait, they'll be old news by then.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Nov 15, 2015 11:59:28 GMT -5
A few thoughts on some mixes...
I didn't like what they did to PENNY LANE on the audio CD... they brought up the piano and some instruments too much, and it altered the song for me in a way I wasn't pleased with.
I didn't like that they left a piano note or two in the pause during BALLAD OF JOHN AND YOKO, after John says "Think!" -- no more dead quiet there for a moment.
Not many people have noticed this, but Giles "fixed" George's sloppy guitar solo on ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, where there always used to be an abrupt end where a stray note was played. The extra note is now gone.
I don't know why on Earth it was felt that George's original line in FREE AS A BIRD had to be altered. I preferred the original vocal.
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 15, 2015 13:46:35 GMT -5
Penny Lane certainly is louder, which is okay with me. I notice at the beginning, the bass seems to be louder in relation to Paul's vocals. The bass sounds good. I'd never noticed Paul's playing on this before. It sounds good mixed up in the mix but it does change the feel of the song, which I didn't think they were going to do.
The songs on 1 aren't the songs in the catalog that beg for a remix. They are the singles and they probably were mixed more in line with how they mixed the mono versions, with everything in the middle.
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 16, 2015 21:10:55 GMT -5
Penny Lane certainly is louder, which is okay with me. I notice at the beginning, the bass seems to be louder in relation to Paul's vocals. The bass sounds good. I'd never noticed Paul's playing on this before. It sounds good mixed up in the mix but it does change the feel of the song, which I didn't think they were going to do. The songs on 1 aren't the songs in the catalog that beg for a remix. They are the singles and they probably were mixed more in line with how they mixed the mono versions, with everything in the middle. Penny Lane came up in rotation in my car today. It just sounded bright, like all the 2009 releases. Not as jarringly different sounding as it was wearing headphones.
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 16, 2015 22:07:30 GMT -5
Once again McCartney talking out his ass about John! God it sucks that John and George are not still here to rebut Paul! Oh great Now he and Yoko will be back to feuding and it will be ten years before we see Let it Be. Boy, Yoko must be mad at the world. People have been making comments like Paul's comment every since the Beatles have been out. John losing people in his life is responsible for his sardonic humor, his caustic lyrics, his leaving the Beatles before they could leave him. The same with the Yoko incident after Nixon's reelection. Oh, and the best one, why John and Paul had so much in common, because they'd both lost their mothers so early in life. I didn't realize so many people talked out of their ass. I don't recall John rebutting any of this when he was alive. Maybe I just missed it.
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Post by kc on Nov 17, 2015 0:51:34 GMT -5
I managed to find and buy a copy of one of the book type deluxe sets yesterday. I was very happy to do so. Then, when I got home and opened the thing for the first time the end papers immediately split where they meet the cardboard cover, both back and front. Admittedly they are only minor tears, but you would think some thought would be applied to the construction and suitability of materials used for these things. Or, maybe I'm just unlucky and got a dud.
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 17, 2015 2:37:14 GMT -5
I managed to find and buy a copy of one of the book type deluxe sets yesterday. I was very happy to do so. Then, when I got home and opened the thing for the first time the end papers immediately split where they meet the cardboard cover, both back and front. Admittedly they are only minor tears, but you would think some thought would be applied to the construction and suitability of materials used for these things. Or, maybe I'm just unlucky and got a dud. I do not like how the package is put together. First I dislike greatly that the BluRay/DVD Discs are stacked with the 1 BluRay/DVD Disc secured on top of the Extra BluRay/DVD Disc. So if I want to watch the "Extra" disc I must remove the "1" disc and each time you have to pry the "1" disc out, you risk damaging or scratching that disc. And what do we do with the "1" BluRay/DVD disc while we are trying to pry out the "Extra BluRay/DVD disc from its holder? Wasn't there room to give each Disc(the 2 BluRay/DVD discs and the CD disc) its own holder?! And yes, I could see how the book could tear or break its binding. And damn-it, this is the same beef I have had with CD booklets from day 1 of CDs: the print is too damn small. I am not reading a whole book through a magnifying glass!
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Post by nine on Nov 17, 2015 6:14:47 GMT -5
Once again McCartney talking out his ass about John! God it sucks that John and George are not still here to rebut Paul! [/quote] It is sad. When Lennon was alive Macca said zilch...
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Nov 17, 2015 6:43:18 GMT -5
It is sad. When Lennon was alive Macca said zilch... Yup. Probably because Paul knew that John would cut him down and not stand for it. There are strong cliques of Macca Mad Hatters on some forums who are constantly bashing John and giving Paul all sorts of free passes these days. Many of these Macca Worshippers are youngsters who were born into the 1980's after Lennon was dead, and who have no real point of reference other than growing up with "Good Ol' Paulie, Who John Always Slighted". To them, John Lennon was basically "a bad guy who was nasty and insulting, whose songs were half-written by McCartney all the time, was a man who constantly lied in his interviews, always tried to belittle his partner Paulie, was a wife beating deadbeat dad, liked to make fun of poor crippled people, always stole his song ideas from other people's songs", etc, etc, etc, .. John Lennon has really become marginalized and it is disgusting.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Nov 17, 2015 6:46:01 GMT -5
Penny Lane certainly is louder, which is okay with me. I notice at the beginning, the bass seems to be louder in relation to Paul's vocals. The bass sounds good. I'd never noticed Paul's playing on this before. It sounds good mixed up in the mix but it does change the feel of the song, which I didn't think they were going to do. The songs on 1 aren't the songs in the catalog that beg for a remix. They are the singles and they probably were mixed more in line with how they mixed the mono versions, with everything in the middle. Penny Lane came up in rotation in my car today. It just sounded bright, like all the 2009 releases. Not as jarringly different sounding as it was wearing headphones. It's very different to me... the piano is way too loud and up front, which takes the focus off Paul's vocals. Also, the "ahhh's" after Paul sings "it's a clean machine" are buried lower in the mix as compared to how we've heard the song for nearly 50 years. I don't like it at all .
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 17, 2015 10:42:51 GMT -5
It is sad. When Lennon was alive Macca said zilch... Yup. Probably because Paul knew that John would cut him down and not stand for it. There are strong cliques of Macca Mad Hatters on some forums who are constantly bashing John and giving Paul all sorts of free passes these days. Many of these Macca Worshippers are youngsters who were born into the 1980's after Lennon was dead, and who have no real point of reference other than growing up with "Good Ol' Paulie, Who John Always Slighted". To them, John Lennon was basically "a bad guy who was nasty and insulting, whose songs were half-written by McCartney all the time, was a man who constantly lied in his interviews, always tried to belittle his partner Paulie, was a wife beating deadbeat dad, liked to make fun of poor crippled people, always stole his song ideas from other people's songs", etc, etc, etc, .. John Lennon has really become marginalized and it is disgusting. It is stunning the hatred of John Lennon on some Boards even from large numbers of members who call themselves Beatles fans. I haven't cared for certain statements made by Paul in interviews for the past 35 years and increasingly some anger me but I don't hate the dude and in fact still love and buy all of his music and further help fatten his wallet by seeing him in concert every three years or less. I don't diminish Paul's Beatles accomplishments(well maybe Maxwell and ObBlahDi) and view him and John as two amazing equals who propelled The Beatles into space and across the universe. I am the author of The JSD Postulate for crying out loud and have never stopped my fight to reclaim the greatness for a part of Paul's solo career that even these Paul fanatics dismiss in their superior tones and attitudes. But this new wave of Paul fans that Joe refers to are utterly vicious about John. They diminish John in all aspects of his life including the Beatle years and accuse him of things that would make Albert Goldman blush! I do see nasty stuff written about Paul but those writers make it clear they hate The Beatles in general and are not picking sides among the Fabs. But I agree with Joe that there is a very popular Music Message Board where so-called Beatles fans equate John Lennon to ISIS or something similarly horrible. Weird and scary to me. And if you defend John Lennon you get banned!! Not because the Mods feel that way but they are bullied by this particular group!
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 28, 2015 23:52:30 GMT -5
Comparing the Day Tripper versions from Past Masters, the latest version, to the version on the new Beatles 1 and I like the intro from PM better. The mix on 1 seems a little skewed to the left, especially the drums. PM is great. I like 1 better when the vocals kick in and settle in a little.
I was surprised that the intro on Day Tripper from Past Masters seem to rock more.
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