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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 29, 2016 19:58:21 GMT -5
Now, please allow me to say I do not believe a word of this. At least not yet, until something more concrete should ever come through (and let's all hope and pray it's all just another stupid tabloid gossip rag of lies). But I did see the cover headline on this thing, and it also said: "He Can't Remember His Songs!"... "He Doesn't Recognize Ringo!" ...
Because of my love for Paul and the other Beatles, I couldn't resist thumbing through this thing to see if there was any type of germ of truth here, while at the same time hoping it smacked of sheer nonsense. I only glanced through it, but there was something about Paul himself saying he sometimes can't come up with remembering the words to his own songs, or something like that. Allegedly --- that is allegedly --- he is seeking help to see what's what. The whole "can't recognize Ringo" thing supposedly stems from Paul seeing an old photo and did not realize it was Ringo --- or something.
Probably none of this is true. Or if Paul can't come up with words or his memory isn't what it used to be -- well, that is normal for someone about to turn 74. The Ringo thing was no big deal as reported .. ok, so you see a photo where someone you know doesn't look like himself in the picture --- it happens.
But I just wanted to report this here anyway. I hope this is as far as this story goes, and that there is not the least grain of validity to it. But this is a Beatles Message Board, after all... and I thought I'd put it out there. What does everyone think about this "news/tale" ?
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 1, 2016 0:26:48 GMT -5
I have heard about this article but now I'll need to plan a trip to the supermarket tomorrow to read it! I'll need to get behind someone with a full shopping cart.
This claim by the Enquirer is legitimate to report here even if it proves(hopefully) to be false. We need to get use to such assertions as our Rock heroes get really old just as we are getting use to major Rock stars popping off at an increasingly fast rate.
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Post by vectisfabber on Mar 1, 2016 4:57:13 GMT -5
My Dad got diagnosed with it last week, but it was no surprise: we've known for a couple of years now. At least he now believes us when we say "But Dad, we DID tell you!"
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 1, 2016 8:33:08 GMT -5
I spent 4 years taking care of my father as he went thru the stages of Alzheimer's until it finally killed him. Symptoms of dementia are not simply forgetting song lyrics, or misidentifying someone in a photo. Diagnosis of dementia is very specific and when done by a medical professional fairly accurate. I pray that Paul or anyone else is not showing any symptoms, but I doubt The Enquirer would have the first knowledge of this.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 1, 2016 10:15:59 GMT -5
LOL, Paul seemed in full control of his faculties when he realized that he wasn't getting into that rapper's Grammy party!
He responded well to the TMZ guy who made the Rolling Stones crack(Paul stared at the dude and frowned as if looks could kill) and Paul was coherently funny and sarcastic when told two times he wasn't getting through that door!
How many times have we read from this rag that the Obamas are divorced!
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 1, 2016 15:34:11 GMT -5
I spent 4 years taking care of my father as he went thru the stages of Alzheimer's until it finally killed him. Symptoms of dementia are not simply forgetting song lyrics, or misidentifying someone in a photo. Diagnosis of dementia is very specific and when done by a medical professional fairly accurate. I pray that Paul or anyone else is not showing any symptoms, but I doubt The Enquirer would have the first knowledge of this. Yup. I haven't seen the article yet. Like John, I intend to make a trip to the market. But the sad part is all it takes is someone in print or on the internet to start this crap and others believe it.
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Post by sallyg on Mar 1, 2016 17:10:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I doubt that any of this is true. I saw Paul in concert last year and he didn't have any difficulty remembering lyrics and looked and sounded great.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Mar 2, 2016 18:57:18 GMT -5
I spent 4 years taking care of my father as he went thru the stages of Alzheimer's until it finally killed him. Symptoms of dementia are not simply forgetting song lyrics, or misidentifying someone in a photo. Diagnosis of dementia is very specific and when done by a medical professional fairly accurate. I pray that Paul or anyone else is not showing any symptoms, but I doubt The Enquirer would have the first knowledge of this. Yup. I haven't seen the article yet. Like John, I intend to make a trip to the market. But the sad part is all it takes is someone in print or on the internet to start this crap and others believe it. I hope you guys don't think I believe it just because it was in print in The Enquirer... but I did feel it was worth mentioning here, as this is a Beatles Forum. But as for the condition... I always thought that the first earliest signs would be rather basic stuff, nothing more serious. I would imagine that -- as the disease progresses -- it gets more complex. But if the article is to be believed, supposedly Paul was at least concerned enough to consult someone about it. It's probably complete BS, but anyway -- that's the article.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 3, 2016 10:57:26 GMT -5
Yup. I haven't seen the article yet. Like John, I intend to make a trip to the market. But the sad part is all it takes is someone in print or on the internet to start this crap and others believe it. I hope you guys don't think I believe it just because it was in print in The Enquirer... but I did feel it was worth mentioning here, as this is a Beatles Forum. But as for the condition... I always thought that the first earliest signs would be rather basic stuff, nothing more serious. I would imagine that -- as the disease progresses -- it gets more complex. But if the article is to be believed, supposedly Paul was at least concerned enough to consult someone about it. It's probably complete BS, but anyway -- that's the article. A common comparison to the difference between senility and dementia; When you misplace your car keys and can't remember where they are until you spot them and go "oh yea, that's where I left them. That is simple forgetfullness or mild senility. Harmless. When you misplace your car keys and find them in the freezer. That is an indication of possible early dementia and you should get tested.
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Post by joshferrell on Mar 3, 2016 20:22:14 GMT -5
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Post by Panther on Mar 4, 2016 0:55:25 GMT -5
If we knew Paul had had Alzheimer's since 1972 or so, that would explain his forgetting good taste since then.
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Post by vectisfabber on Mar 4, 2016 6:32:21 GMT -5
Oh, meow. (but true).
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 4, 2016 16:32:07 GMT -5
John Lennon couldn't(or wouldn't) remember his own written song lyrics in his 20's and 30's often butchering them or making up new ones! I think our Paul is okay!
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 4, 2016 16:36:11 GMT -5
If we knew Paul had had Alzheimer's since 1972 or so, that would explain his forgetting good taste since then. Hey, his and Linda's matching mullets were cool! or
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 4:35:23 GMT -5
If we knew Paul had had Alzheimer's since 1972 or so, that would explain his forgetting good taste since then. Some of Paul's lyrics over the years are well worth forgetting.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 5, 2016 10:53:38 GMT -5
If we knew Paul had had Alzheimer's since 1972 or so, that would explain his forgetting good taste since then. Some of Paul's lyrics over the years are well worth forgetting. Maybe but not the lyrics to "Mumbo" or "Bip Bop."
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 5, 2016 18:40:24 GMT -5
I bought the stupid Enquirer, and it's a bunch of whispers. If he had Alzheimer's, he wouldn't be doing half the shit he is.
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Post by mikev on Mar 7, 2016 5:17:34 GMT -5
If we knew Paul had had Alzheimer's since 1972 or so, that would explain his forgetting good taste since then. Hey, his and Linda's matching mullets were cool! or It's Paul and Ziggy Star-lust!!
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Post by mikev on Mar 7, 2016 5:22:14 GMT -5
I bought the stupid Enquirer, and it's a bunch of whispers. If he had Alzheimer's, he wouldn't be doing half the shit he is. But you BOUGHT it so their job was accomplished. I bought it last in 1982 when they claimed to have the final MASH secret script...and it really was the secret script-major spoiler alert for me and all the college friends I watched it with when I blurted out "it was a baby"...
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 7, 2016 17:00:54 GMT -5
Hey, his and Linda's matching mullets were cool! or It's Paul and Ziggy Star-lust!! LMAO! Good one Mike! Reminds me of a song by the Rolling Stones, it is on Goats Head Soup, its title is actually censored, it could very well apply to a certain ex-Beatle's then wife!
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Post by winstonoboogie on Mar 11, 2016 21:14:42 GMT -5
It's Paul and Ziggy Star-lust!! LMAO! Good one Mike! Reminds me of a song by the Rolling Stones, it is on Goats Head Soup, its title is actually censored, it could very well apply to a certain ex-Beatle's then wife! You don't mean "***k-s*ck*r Blues", do you?
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 11, 2016 21:50:11 GMT -5
LMAO! Good one Mike! Reminds me of a song by the Rolling Stones, it is on Goats Head Soup, its title is actually censored, it could very well apply to a certain ex-Beatle's then wife! You don't mean "***k-s*ck*r Blues", do you? He means Star Star, better known as Star F**ker. "***k-s*ck*r Blues", they'd have to censor more than the title on that one. Then there was the follow up song, "I'm no school boy, but I know what I like. Brown Sugar".
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 12, 2016 3:34:43 GMT -5
You don't mean "***k-s*ck*r Blues", do you? He means Star Star, better known as Star F**ker. "***k-s*ck*r Blues", they'd have to censor more than the title on that one. Then there was the follow up song, "I'm no school boy, but I know what I like. Brown Sugar". Winston! Where is your mind, son! Actually, good call on an obscure Stones' song! Debjorgo nailed it. "Star Star" is how it is named on the album but if Mick or Keith refer to it they call it by its real name also pointed out by debjorgo. It is about a woman who liked to....let us say seduce Rock Stars. Sounds like someone in the Beatles' story! Someone who may have slept with a Stone or two!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Mar 12, 2016 19:05:27 GMT -5
He means Star Star, better known as Star F**ker. "***k-s*ck*r Blues", they'd have to censor more than the title on that one. Then there was the follow up song, "I'm no school boy, but I know what I like. Brown Sugar". Winston! Where is your mind, son! Actually, good call on an obscure Stones' song! Debjorgo nailed it. "Star Star" is how it is named on the album but if Mick or Keith refer to it they call it by its real name also pointed out by debjorgo. It is about a woman who liked to....let us say seduce Rock Stars. Sounds like someone in the Beatles' story! Someone who may have slept with a Stone or two! Joan Jett blows away the Stones' version of 'Star Star'
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Post by winstonoboogie on Mar 12, 2016 19:05:44 GMT -5
Ah! OK! Thanks!
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 12, 2016 22:19:43 GMT -5
Winston! Where is your mind, son! Actually, good call on an obscure Stones' song! Debjorgo nailed it. "Star Star" is how it is named on the album but if Mick or Keith refer to it they call it by its real name also pointed out by debjorgo. It is about a woman who liked to....let us say seduce Rock Stars. Sounds like someone in the Beatles' story! Someone who may have slept with a Stone or two! Joan Jett blows away the Stones' version of 'Star Star' I had front row seats for Joan Jett at the 1982 Chicagofest and saw her do that and Bowie's "Rebel Rebel" and both were great covers as was her hit, "Crinsom And Clover." In fact, she was wearing the same outfit as in that video!
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Post by cosmo on Mar 20, 2016 17:40:39 GMT -5
Just saw this thread and have to take up for Linda here. She is by far NOT the only woman in the world who slept with a couple of rock stars. By my count, based on what I've read, it was Jim Morrison, Mick Jagger, and maybe a couple of other not so famous musicians. So what? There are lots of ladies who went with the boys in the band, and why not? If you guys sniggering about this had been girls, and Mick Jagger or Jim Morrison or Paul McCartney invited you to bed, I am SO sure you would have said no! HA!
How does Mick Jagger even remember who he slept with, anyways - hasn't he slept with like 500 women? He could have written Star****** about any of them. The "divorcee" from Honky Tonk Women is a better bet to be about Linda- but even so - anyone who cares is a hypocrite. Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll - ok for men for not for women? I don't think so!
So lay off judging Linda for sleeping with Mick Jagger. You're just jealous because he didn't ask you! (and yes, that is directed at the guys!)
Ok, off soapbox. Just a topic that riles my feminist heart.
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Post by mikev on Mar 21, 2016 8:00:05 GMT -5
It just started off as a David Bowie look-alike joke, then I thought she looked like him during the Ziggy period, then the pun just dropped in. They (Paul and Linda) are major celebrities so I'm sure they've heard a lot worse over the years. All I ever knew was that she was known as a very rich groupie. To be honest-I never knew she slept with any other specific rock stars, but now I do.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 21, 2016 11:41:49 GMT -5
..........If you guys sniggering about this had been girls, and Mick Jagger or Jim Morrison or Paul McCartney invited you to bed, I am SO sure you would have said no! HA! ........So lay off judging Linda for sleeping with Mick Jagger. You're just jealous because he didn't ask you! (and yes, that is directed at the guys!) Speaking for myself, I wouldn't do it with those dudes especially Mick, just Tony Hicks, lead guitarist of The Hollies! Sex, drugs and Rock and Roll is awesome! I think the little jabs there at Linda were because she deliberately set out to "bag" a Rock Star, any Rock Star, and she grabbed the mother-load. Despite Paul's sentiments as sung in the Driving Rain song "Magic," it was not magic that brought them together but rather Linda's well-planned campaign to get her a Beatle(John, Paul it didn't matter) that made Eisenhower's D-Day planning look like spur-of-the-moment! Hey, whatever gets you thru the night!
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Post by cosmo on Mar 22, 2016 11:05:13 GMT -5
You know what, I had a plan to get Paul, too! Unfortunately, Linda got there first. I think Paul had a little something to do with them getting married, too. After all, almost every girl in the world was after him 1964-1968, and he managed to fend them all off! I'm sure if HE had thought that Linda was just another groupie, or if he was offended by her "campaign" to get him, they would't have wound up together, and they wouldn't have stayed together for almost 30 years. Now, if you want to talk about campaigns, let's discuss Heather Mills!
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