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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 8, 2016 15:44:02 GMT -5
Oh I think Denny is being coy about no falling out! Maybe in his mind.
Heck, even the hapless, potential thief Harry in Broadstreet was a dead-ringer for Denny Laine!
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Post by stavros on Mar 8, 2016 16:46:42 GMT -5
There seems to be a lot of conjecture about what caused Paul to break his "Wings". - Denny, (but more so) his wife Jo-Jo, dishing some dirt to the tabloids on the McCartneys.
- Denny's album "Japanese Tears" in the aftermath of Paul's arrest in Tokyo.
- Paul felt Wings had run their course and he could never top the 1975/76 era.
- John's death meant he no longer could see himself touring and didn't need a studio only band.
- Even George Martin has the finger pointed at him in encouraging Paul to become a solo artist.
I think the tabloid stories certainly meant Paul felt a sense of disloyalty. But then Paul plays on Denny's solo album on a number of tracks so I'm not sure he was that upset. "Japanese Tears" is no "How Do You Sleep?" Now maybe Paul had felt Wings were no longer worth persisting with once a new decade had been ushered in. "Back to the Egg" was not received well in Britain and produced no hit singles. Whilst "McCartney II" had seen "Coming Up" and "Waterfalls" become UK hits. This was also on the back of his cheesy but perennial "Wonderful Christmastime". Also under the McCartney (not Wings) name. I think John's death was also a factor. I don't think Paul wanted to tour and so there was no real need for his band any more. Some say that he was happy to keep Denny alongside him and Linda. But Denny eventually wanted to get out. As for George Martin. Well there's a minor conspiracy theory that he wanted Paul to breakaway. Personally I think, had Paul evaded Japanese airport security, that Wings could have gone on to tour the USA in late 1980 with a number one single "Coming Up" and then who knows? Wings always sounded like a band, not a bunch of Paul McCartney backing musicians. Once he went solo things were never quite the same. "Flowers in the Dirt" was a return to form of sorts. But by the time Paul was touring again he was touring as "Beatle Paul". I am not complaining about that. But I did note that when I last saw Paul live in Liverpool "Band on the Run" was the song that woke the crowd up and it was well after plenty of Beatle classics. However I have serious doubts he will ever try to bring about a "Wings" reunion.
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 8, 2016 18:39:32 GMT -5
? I don't get your comment at all. I'm being somewhat critical of Paul, saying he used an out for not giving his best. I'm also implying he started writing songs for kids. I would had understood your comment had it been attached to the one were I compared POB sales to Wild Life's. I can't speak for fabfour but I also thought of our friend RTP when you mentioned the singer-songwriter era. RTP has said Paul started that with his first solo album McCartney! Your point was the opposite, such singer/songwriter era didn't exist yet when Wings were formed so Paul used Wings as a crutch so to speak. I agree with you but just your mere mention of singer-songwriter era made me think of RTP! I hadn't picked up on that with Pepper. I think of him "as most likely to find no fault in Paul". I don't think Paul started the era but I think the Beatles' split helped make the Simon and Garfunkel split happen. James Taylor was major in that era. You had Carol King, Jackson Browne, Cat Stevens, Kris Kristofferson, who else? Major acts at the top of the heap. Of course, it was more a resurgence. (Hank Williams, Johnny Cash and all the country artists form the early sixties, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Bob Dylan, ....)
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 8, 2016 23:38:12 GMT -5
I wish he would tour with Wings!
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Post by Panther on Mar 9, 2016 2:21:28 GMT -5
I wish he would tour with Wings! My Love (does it cold) Live and Let Die (Euthanasia mix) Mary had an Old Sheep Sober Sober Sober Helen Dentures Listen to what the Doctor Said Let Me Roll Over Medicine Jar Senior's Farm With a Little Viagra
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 3:25:02 GMT -5
? I don't get your comment at all. I'm being somewhat critical of Paul, saying he used an out for not giving his best. I'm also implying he started writing songs for kids. I would had understood your comment had it been attached to the one were I compared POB sales to Wild Life's. I can't speak for fabfour but I also thought of our friend RTP when you mentioned the singer-songwriter era. RTP has said Paul started that with his first solo album McCartney! Your point was the opposite, such singer/songwriter era didn't exist yet when Wings were formed so Paul used Wings as a crutch so to speak. I agree with you but just your mere mention of singer-songwriter era made me think of RTP! It was the singer/songwriter line that made me think of RTP, that was an RTP classic statement back then..
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 9, 2016 15:36:26 GMT -5
I can't speak for fabfour but I also thought of our friend RTP when you mentioned the singer-songwriter era. RTP has said Paul started that with his first solo album McCartney! Your point was the opposite, such singer/songwriter era didn't exist yet when Wings were formed so Paul used Wings as a crutch so to speak. I agree with you but just your mere mention of singer-songwriter era made me think of RTP! It was the singer/songwriter line that made me think of RTP, that was an RTP classic statement back then.. I thought that was it! It was for me! Where art thou RTP?
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Post by stavros on Mar 9, 2016 16:27:07 GMT -5
I think The Enquirer reported that he had Alzheimer's didn't they. Or maybe that was me
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Post by Panther on Mar 9, 2016 21:28:23 GMT -5
I think RTP went to work for Paul's team, after Paul purged the last of his staff. Apparently someone implied that John may have written something in one Beatles' song, and Paul took offense and fired him.
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Post by vectisfabber on Mar 10, 2016 4:25:58 GMT -5
RTP may be ill, he may have some family/personal crisis, he may even have passed. No reason why we can't take the piss, though.
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 10, 2016 6:54:29 GMT -5
If you look at the members tab above ad sort by Last time on-line, you can see rtp was last here January 18.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 10, 2016 14:33:30 GMT -5
RTP may be ill, he may have some family/personal crisis, he may even have passed. No reason why we can't take the piss, though. Or he may have changed his name! Not to start paranoia and conspiracy theories! RTP was our friend as tenacious and narrow-focused on one particular Beatle as he was! While I did not think he was actually Paul himself, "he" could have been Mary or Stella in disguise! He was too quick-witted for James though! We are a livelier and more contentious place with RTP that is for sure!
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Post by Panther on Mar 10, 2016 22:06:26 GMT -5
He was too quick-witted for James though! Nothing makes me laugh more then when you rip apart 'Big Mac'. Do carry on, sir....
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Post by markc on Mar 11, 2016 10:34:21 GMT -5
Maybe Linda had more to do with ending Wings as a concept or a band. Sure she still appeared on albums and on stage with the Hamish/McIntosh era band. But some factors may have contribute to her not wanting to be an integral member: Japan bust may have been the straw that broke the camel's back. John's death may have made musical matters more introspective for Paul, plus he quit touring. This was the period where everything came to be about Paul, the musical giant. He needed to write all the songs and be THE guy. She may have wanted to focus on raising Little Mac. She was tired of being slagged by the press and Paul's contemporaries.
Or maybe Paul switched to working with Andy Stewart instead of Denny and didn't need a set band.
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Post by stavros on Mar 11, 2016 17:00:29 GMT -5
Maybe Linda had more to do with ending Wings as a concept or a band.......... I think that may well have been another of those factors we have to consider. Sometimes it's everything coming to a head. Paul's quote in the book "Wingspan : PAUL MCCARTNEY'S BAND ON THE RUN" is vague and throws no light on the situation.
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 11, 2016 17:53:07 GMT -5
I remember reading somewhere that Paul was forming his new band and he asked them what they all thought the band should be called. One of the members, I can't remember who it was, said that they did not need to name the band. They would just be his band.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 11, 2016 18:44:29 GMT -5
Maybe Linda had more to do with ending Wings as a concept or a band.......... I think that may well have been another of those factors we have to consider. Sometimes it's everything coming to a head. Paul's quote in the book "Wingspan : PAUL MCCARTNEY'S BAND ON THE RUN" is vague and throws no light on the situation. LOL, that is a nice passage from Paul on Wings! I guess maybe I should read Wingspan the book! I always just looked at the pictures.
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Post by nine on Mar 22, 2016 22:32:12 GMT -5
Did John really need "Elephant's Memory"? I never liked Elephant's Memory. I wish Lennon had of used the guys he recorded POB and Imagine with when he did the One to One concerts.
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