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Post by debjorgo on Mar 10, 2016 22:47:01 GMT -5
Yeah, he should have had a PR guy write it for him.
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Post by stavros on Mar 11, 2016 16:48:26 GMT -5
It's not the example Paul brought up, it's the way he words it that I find self-serving and inappropriate. He should have written something just as you describe it, like this: "We (The Beatles) would often bring raw or unusual ideas to George, who, by rights, should have just dismissed them as any producer in the early/mid-1960s would have; however, George always had the grace and generosity to listen to our ideas and work to make them reality. As a result, the magic of The Beatles' recordings occurred because of the recording collaboration between us and him." But no, he had to bring up "my" song, and "my" idea, and of course he randomly chose his most successful song for his example. Funny how he didn't mention 'Ebony and Ivory'. For god sake have some respect. The man has got Alzheimer's. George Martin illustrates how it set in at an early age in this clip by proving Paul thought he'd written "Yesterday" with John, George and Mozart. Joking apart I don't think Paul was trying to re-write history with his comments.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 5:52:59 GMT -5
It's not the example Paul brought up, it's the way he words it that I find self-serving and inappropriate. He should have written something just as you describe it, like this: "We (The Beatles) would often bring raw or unusual ideas to George, who, by rights, should have just dismissed them as any producer in the early/mid-1960s would have; however, George always had the grace and generosity to listen to our ideas and work to make them reality. As a result, the magic of The Beatles' recordings occurred because of the recording collaboration between us and him." But no, he had to bring up "my" song, and "my" idea, and of course he randomly chose his most successful song for his example. Funny how he didn't mention 'Ebony and Ivory'. For god sake have some respect. The man has got Alzheimer's. George Martin illustrates how it set in at an early age in this clip by proving Paul thought he'd written "Yesterday" with John, George and Mozart. Joking apart I don't think Paul was trying to re-write history with his comments. "The man has got Alzheimer's" I thought "the other thread" had dismissed that as typical Enquirer crap. Which means Paul is as calculated as history shows he's always been.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 13, 2016 11:10:53 GMT -5
A remembrance from Quincy Jones:
George Martin and I go all the way back. We met before the Beatles and Rolling Stones came to America in 1964 because I had taken Lesley Gore over to England when she was number 1. I’d stay at his house near Oxford, and we’d go to a trout restaurant. Food, music, women, how you like to party—that’s what makes the greatest friendship, doesn’t it?
I met Paul McCartney back then and Mick Jagger, too, and we’d all talked about how well they knew American culture. In fact, I even made a bet with Paul that the Beatles wouldn’t happen in America. That was stupid.
George and the Beatles—that was a match made in heaven. He was an amazing musician who knew his craft and had the vision and the background in orchestration to take the Beatles to the top. He was responsible for the string quartet in “Eleanor Rigby” and the symphony orchestra in “A Day in the Life.” Any man that understands orchestration can go anywhere.
I played the same role with Michael Jackson; I brought the orchestration and he brought the dancing. That’s what it takes to make a great combination. But the bottom line is, you have to have humility, and George was very humble.
Everything I did with George was a joy, from the time he asked me to do arrangements for Ringo Starr’s album Sentimental Journey to the times he’d call me from “Abbey Road” and we’d try to figure out how to stack vocals. Working with George was a sonic kind of a journey.
From Time.com
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 13, 2016 15:04:16 GMT -5
A remembrance from Quincy Jones: George Martin and I go all the way back. We met before the Beatles and Rolling Stones came to America in 1964 because I had taken Lesley Gore over to England when she was number 1. I’d stay at his house near Oxford, and we’d go to a trout restaurant. Food, music, women, how you like to party—that’s what makes the greatest friendship, doesn’t it? I met Paul McCartney back then and Mick Jagger, too, and we’d all talked about how well they knew American culture. In fact, I even made a bet with Paul that the Beatles wouldn’t happen in America. That was stupid. George and the Beatles—that was a match made in heaven. He was an amazing musician who knew his craft and had the vision and the background in orchestration to take the Beatles to the top. He was responsible for the string quartet in “Eleanor Rigby” and the symphony orchestra in “A Day in the Life.” Any man that understands orchestration can go anywhere. I played the same role with Michael Jackson; I brought the orchestration and he brought the dancing. That’s what it takes to make a great combination. But the bottom line is, you have to have humility, and George was very humble. Everything I did with George was a joy, from the time he asked me to do arrangements for Ringo Starr’s album Sentimental Journey to the times he’d call me from “Abbey Road” and we’d try to figure out how to stack vocals. Working with George was a sonic kind of a journey. From Time.com Cool. I had no idea they knew each other. I'm wondering how much that came into play with Paul working with Michael.
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Post by Panther on Mar 14, 2016 2:33:11 GMT -5
Thanks, lowbasso. That's a great tribute from Quincy Jones, someone I have enormous respect for. (I also envy him since he was once married to Nastassja Kinksi.) I think 'Q' was hugely responsible for a lot of Michael Jackson' recording successes on 'Off The Wall' and 'Thriller'. Martin was more in the classical music tradition, and Q more from jazz, and each of them brought this type of knowledge into a 'pop' context, with extraordinary talents to work with, to fantastic effect.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 14, 2016 15:15:50 GMT -5
I'm hearing he was buried today.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 14, 2016 15:24:39 GMT -5
I'm hearing he was buried today. I was curious about that, the actual burial service. If I was the British P.M., but I am not, I would have insisted there be a grand State Funeral with a week of mourning! Sir George was that amazing of a representative for Great Britan!
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Post by sallyg on Mar 14, 2016 19:36:59 GMT -5
Prayers for George's family and friends on this day. I am grateful for all the fine work that George did with the Beatles and other artists. George was in the right place at the right time and therefore he was able to help the Beatles realize their artistic vision.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 14, 2016 21:36:56 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Mar 15, 2016 5:35:10 GMT -5
Two writers now calling George Martin the "3rd Beatle" jumping him over George and Ringo! Really?? How utterly idiotic. I'm not. Ringo contributed more, song per song, to The Beatles with his drumming than George Martin did. But GM is always The True Fifth Beatle in my book.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Mar 15, 2016 5:36:37 GMT -5
Yes, particularly when it comes to now having written nearly all of John Lennon's songs. Paul has never claimed to "have written nearly all of John's songs". Your arguments lose a lot of credibility when you make an exaggeration like that. I think it's Paul's credibility that sometimes gets lost from his increasing exaggerations of what he did on John's songs.
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Post by sallyg on Mar 15, 2016 19:13:24 GMT -5
Two writers now calling George Martin the "3rd Beatle" jumping him over George and Ringo! Oh brother, that is ridiculous! Talk about revisionist history. These writers don't know what they're talking about.
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Post by vectisfabber on Mar 16, 2016 4:21:02 GMT -5
I think it's Paul's credibility that sometimes gets lost from his increasing exaggerations of what he did on John's songs. Only someone else who was there at the time would know whether it was exaggeration or not.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 16, 2016 7:19:33 GMT -5
I think it's Paul's credibility that sometimes gets lost from his increasing exaggerations of what he did on John's songs. Only someone else who was there at the time would know whether it was exaggeration or not. RTP is that you!?
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Post by vectisfabber on Mar 16, 2016 9:47:46 GMT -5
No, it's only me! Point being Paul may well be exaggerating his input on John's songs, or he may be disclosing detail which has remained undisclosed (for whatever reason) since the 60s, but the only people who know which is which are Paul, John, and anyone else who was around at the time, and there's no guarantee than any of them will remember accurately anyway. I certainly have no idea whether he is exaggerating or not, and neither do any of us. Unless one of us was there - anyone going to own up? I do suspect that there are people who want to think he is exaggerating (and those who want to think he isn't): neither group has any grounds for their position.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 16, 2016 10:39:18 GMT -5
This trailer is for an upcoming PBS Series to be aired this November in the States about the role of the Producer in Pop music history. Paul & Ringo were interviewed and possibly even George Martin, though he does not appear in the trailer. But this looks to be very good;
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 16, 2016 17:30:16 GMT -5
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 17, 2016 12:52:14 GMT -5
Steve has been pretty busy lately with all the news on Sir George's passing. So I don't recall him posting this news here on this board. Could be wrong. If I am not, then some folks here on this board might be glad I mentioned it. Including Steve. This information is free......won't cost you a penny...
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 17, 2016 16:59:55 GMT -5
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 17, 2016 18:39:49 GMT -5
That is true, but they don't always make it over to this board, so sometimes we help him out..
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 17, 2016 23:38:17 GMT -5
That is true, but they don't always make it over to this board, so sometimes we help him out.. Thank you, all. I'm covering the current Lennon stuff, fyi.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 17, 2016 23:39:09 GMT -5
And I loved the story of George R. R. Martin ("Game of Thrones") coming out to tell people HE was alive.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 19, 2016 14:09:07 GMT -5
This trailer is for an upcoming PBS Series to be aired this November in the States about the role of the Producer in Pop music history. Paul & Ringo were interviewed and possibly even George Martin, though he does not appear in the trailer. But this looks to be very good; I am adding an edit to this post to make sure everyone here knows that Steve posted this story first on his Facebook Beatles page, where I saw it, and I simply copied it over to put it on this board for all to see here in case they were not following Steve on another board or Facebook as I do. I got my hand slapped for posting this here and not waiting for Steve to do so, not by Steve, but by another poster here... So; (My right hand is on a Bible)"I swear on the souls of my dearly departed mother and father that I was not trying to take sole credit as the reporter who uncovered this breaking story this past week. All credit,honors, and awards forthwith, shall be attributed to Steve Mariucci for this newsworthy posting. I can only hope I will not face a crippling lawsuit from Steve over this matter that could put me in financial ruin and leave my reputation in tatters for all my remaining days. I promise to forthwith give all credit to any posting I first see by Steve elsewhere, and post here, to Mr. Mariucci from this day forward. So help me God..... Any comments forthwith shall be directed to my legal counsel which I hereby choose to represent me in this matter; JSD, Esquire, in the State of Indiana...."
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 19, 2016 14:54:04 GMT -5
All I meant to say was that had you checked Steve's Examiner page, you'd know that Martin was not only interviewed but was a co-producer of the show.
No hand slap intended.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 22, 2016 10:56:15 GMT -5
Clips from this video seen on Anthology, but I had never seen the entire video before. Some of you have probably seen it in its entirety. Posted last week. Watch it before Apple decides to take it down off Youtube.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Mar 22, 2016 19:44:35 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that, lowbasso! Who is the guy in the orange shirt next to the two Georges? Chris Thomas? Geoff Emerick?
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Post by sallyg on May 13, 2016 5:28:40 GMT -5
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Post by John S. Damm on May 13, 2016 10:01:18 GMT -5
And the articles also said it was thought that Yoko Ono was also present. Stella McCartney was there.
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Post by lowbasso on May 13, 2016 10:39:48 GMT -5
Sean & Stella were at G. Martin Memorial Service; (Lennon/McCartney)
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