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Post by sayne on Jun 15, 2017 1:33:45 GMT -5
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Post by lowbasso on Jun 15, 2017 6:45:54 GMT -5
Nice to give her the recognition she deserved for co-writing the iconic song.
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 15, 2017 16:39:13 GMT -5
Yoko signed off of a change in writer credit? Shocking!
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 15, 2017 18:39:21 GMT -5
The story made the ABC Nightly News tonight!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2017 10:35:13 GMT -5
How many years has it taken for a no talent Avant Garde artist to gain dubious recognition, what a load of bollocks.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jun 16, 2017 19:04:54 GMT -5
I wonder if there are any other songs Yoko will ask co-writing credit for.
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Post by sayne on Jun 17, 2017 0:02:49 GMT -5
I wonder if there are any other songs Yoko will ask co-writing credit for. She never asked, not like your precious Paul.
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Post by lowbasso on Jun 17, 2017 10:35:55 GMT -5
I wonder if there are any other songs Yoko will ask co-writing credit for. How Do You Sleep. It is Yoko's favorite song by John......
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 18, 2017 11:37:34 GMT -5
I would have liked this better if John was alive to expressly consent to it.
Yes, I have read where John gives Yoko credit for his initial inspiration from her book writings about the concept of imagining stuff yet he never changed the credits in his lifetime so I would feel a lot better if John was here to say, yes this is exactly want I want.
Those words never came out of his mouth in his lifetime.
I think changing songwriting credits like this can be a slippery slope when the established songwriter is long dead. But here we at least have John's thoughts on it even if he didn't change the songwriting credit himself.
At least it is not Paul "re-claiming" the song!
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Post by debjorgo on Jun 18, 2017 12:50:23 GMT -5
I would have liked this better if John was alive to expressly consent to it. Yes, I have read where John gives Yoko credit for his initial inspiration from her book writings about the concept of imagining stuff yet he never changed the credits in his lifetime so I would feel a lot better if John was here to say, yes this is exactly want I want. Those words never came out of his mouth in his lifetime. I think changing songwriting credits like this can be a slippery slope when the established songwriter is long dead. But here we at least have John's thoughts on it even if he didn't change the songwriting credit himself. At least it is not Paul "re-claiming" the song! No, but Paul did inspire the lyrics to How Do You Sleep.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 18, 2017 15:37:27 GMT -5
I would have liked this better if John was alive to expressly consent to it. Yes, I have read where John gives Yoko credit for his initial inspiration from her book writings about the concept of imagining stuff yet he never changed the credits in his lifetime so I would feel a lot better if John was here to say, yes this is exactly want I want. Those words never came out of his mouth in his lifetime. I think changing songwriting credits like this can be a slippery slope when the established songwriter is long dead. But here we at least have John's thoughts on it even if he didn't change the songwriting credit himself. At least it is not Paul "re-claiming" the song! No, but Paul did inspire the lyrics to How Do You Sleep. True, let's add Paul to the songwriting credit on "How Do You Sleep" so then it might get played on The Beatles Channel as it still has not to my knowledge!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 18, 2017 20:10:41 GMT -5
I would have liked this better if John was alive to expressly consent to it. Yes, I have read where John gives Yoko credit for his initial inspiration from her book writings about the concept of imagining stuff yet he never changed the credits in his lifetime so I would feel a lot better if John was here to say, yes this is exactly want I want. Those words never came out of his mouth in his lifetime. I think changing songwriting credits like this can be a slippery slope when the established songwriter is long dead. But here we at least have John's thoughts on it even if he didn't change the songwriting credit himself. At least it is not Paul "re-claiming" the song! John said it more than once in 1980, and it seems to be at the very end of his life just before he died where he was into the idea. I think that had he lived, he would have put it into effect himself. When he said "it really should be a Lennon-Ono" song, that is more than enough concession. But I would have been of a completely different POV had John never said this and it was concocted all by itself. That is why I am "okay" with this. But I wish John had changed this songwriting credit in his lifetime and his failure to do so suggests that he wasn't quite ready to so change it. He could have easily set that in motion but did not do so. Why?!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 19, 2017 21:27:10 GMT -5
That is why I am "okay" with this. But I wish John had changed this songwriting credit in his lifetime and his failure to do so suggests that he wasn't quite ready to so change it. He could have easily set that in motion but did not do so. Why?! He was quoted in the December 6th BBC interview like he was finally ready to champion it, and then he died on December 8th. When was he going to do it, presuming the real desire struck him during the Dec. 6th interview? (You're not going to say Dec. 7th, are you? ) . Actually that would have been cool! December 7th is the anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and what cooler gesture than John giving his Japanese wife credit for "Imagine," a peace anthem, on that very day! East meets West and West is East, where the twain shall meet! John was a slacker! He should have signed the papers the day after his Dec. 6, 1980 interview!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 10:34:29 GMT -5
How many years has it taken for a no talent Avant Garde artist to gain dubious recognition, what a load of bollocks. As usual, you don't quite know what you're talking about. John Lennon himself said in audio interviews from 1980 that the song IMAGINE was certainly inspired by Yoko, and that lyrically it was taken from her book GRAPEFRUIT. He said in 1980 that he wanted to give her credit which was overdue, but at the time of the recording he didn't quite have the nerve to put a co-writing credit on it. So this is not as if Yoko went around trying to do something devious. Without Yoko, there would be no "Imagine", which is John's most well-known song. Furthermore, Yoko is indeed talented in her own abstract right, though you are not required to perceive that. And you obviously don't. Complete bullshit Joe, your specialty. Yoko is worse than Linda. When John was murdered, so was her credibility. Yoko surely broke up the Beatles, why, she had no musical ability, and yet, coz she was drug fucked, she was in denial, Yoko was a pest for a band in decline.
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