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Post by rbortega on Aug 14, 2019 23:53:00 GMT -5
I am surprised there has been no threads posted about this yet. Here is a preview of the upcoming reissue:
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Post by stavros on Aug 20, 2019 18:09:34 GMT -5
I think this forum has sadly been neglected for too long...
But there are also a number of other versions of "Something" from the upcoming AR50 collections
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 21, 2019 19:46:11 GMT -5
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 22, 2019 17:52:30 GMT -5
The other thread was for pre-announcement excitement build-up. We got the official announcement sooner that I thought we would. We only got 6 weeks notice on the previous releases which would make the announcement, well, today.
I have my deluxe box ordered. Sorry Taylor Swift, your album has to wait.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 26, 2019 21:36:20 GMT -5
Hey folks, if you see a killer price for AR50 Deluxe Box, please post it here!
I am seeing it competitively from $88 to $91. I am sure the good old Mom & Pop Record Stores have it for $111.00 if you want the integrity of avoiding a big corporate retailer. I don't, I want it cheap! I went amazon.com!
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Post by rbortega on Sept 27, 2019 9:55:31 GMT -5
To coincide with the release of the 50th anniversary edition of Abbey Road today here is a new music video for Here Comes The Sun that was posted on YouTube:
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 27, 2019 21:18:34 GMT -5
I love the video and working my way through the Box!
The Re-Mix is good but not as dramatic a change as with Pepper50 or WA50 but that is because AR was recorded so well to begin with! It has always sounded great!
I am really enjoying the alternate takes of songs! I LOVE the version given of TBOJAY! Paul kicks ass on drums and I love John's acoustic guitar playing and singing on this Take.
More to follow but so far so good!
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 27, 2019 23:40:42 GMT -5
Yeah. I wrote down six or seven comments as I was listening to the Deluxe set. I wrote it on a piece of paper that had a bunch of other stuff on it so I'm really not sure how many comments I wrote down.
But one comment says "Great drums on Ballad. Paul is no Ringo Starr but I was impressed."
That's going to be one of my 'go to' tracks.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 28, 2019 12:55:26 GMT -5
Yeah. I wrote down six or seven comments as I was listening to the Deluxe set. I wrote it on a piece of paper that had a bunch of other stuff on it so I'm really not sure how many comments I wrote down. But one comment says "Great drums on Ballad. Paul is no Ringo Starr but I was impressed." That's going to be one of my 'go to' tracks. LOL, can you even find your paper after chasing good beer with cheaper beer during your first listen?! I spent the wee hours trying to figure out how to use the on-screen menu for that damn Blu-Ray!
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 28, 2019 21:18:21 GMT -5
Yeah. I wrote down six or seven comments as I was listening to the Deluxe set. I wrote it on a piece of paper that had a bunch of other stuff on it so I'm really not sure how many comments I wrote down. But one comment says "Great drums on Ballad. Paul is no Ringo Starr but I was impressed." That's going to be one of my 'go to' tracks. LOL, can you even find your paper after chasing good beer with cheaper beer during your first listen?! I spent the wee hours trying to figure out how to use the on-screen menu for that damn Blu-Ray! Yeah, I've found my notes. I have that there is more guitar down in the mix of Come Together. The bass seems more rumbly in Something. (I'm not exactly sure what I mean by that.) Hammer seems trippier at the end. The guitar exchanges in The End seem to be left, middle, middle. I flipped my headphones and now it's right, middle, middle, so it's not my hearing. I'm listening through my PC with headphones. Maybe my headphones are going out, or the balance is off in the system. I liked Billy going nuts on the organ in I Want You at the Trident Studios. I loved The End Take 3 and Sun King Take 20.
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Post by hofner61 on Sept 30, 2019 7:53:14 GMT -5
I've just received a copy of this 50th anniversary Abbey Road set.
Now i need to make time to listen to it. (time)
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 30, 2019 18:00:55 GMT -5
I've just received a copy of this 50th anniversary Abbey Road set. Now i need to make time to listen to it. (time) It is a quicker listen than the White Album but then again that was a double album with twice as much material! Have fun!
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 30, 2019 18:54:54 GMT -5
I listened to all three disks earlier today at work. It went by pretty quick. I couldn't turn it up and really rock it, so it was just playing as I worked. It was over before I knew it.
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Post by hofner61 on Oct 2, 2019 5:59:44 GMT -5
I listened to the actual Abbey Rd album part of this 50th Anniversary release today.
When it got to "The End" i couldn't believe i'd remortgaged the house to buy AR50, only to find it sounds the same as all the other copies of Abbey Rd i have.
Is someone at Beatles Inc. taking the P155.
I'll have to see what the extras are like.
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Post by hofner61 on Oct 2, 2019 6:18:19 GMT -5
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Post by RockoRoll on Oct 5, 2019 20:11:28 GMT -5
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Post by keith on Oct 6, 2019 15:22:51 GMT -5
Slightly out of context quote from Giles Martin in the above video "It sounds so good, why remix it?" Precisely! I'm going to admit to being underwhelmed by the remix. Maybe I need a few more listens. But in reality, much like Pepper and The Beatles, I don't really care for the remixed album, what I want are the various takes of the songs. Now it might be that I never bothered with many Abbey Road era bootlegs, but I was happy to see that CDs 2 & 3 contained lots of takes that I hadn't heard. Absolutely adored the "Last chance to be loud" take, but then had to disinfect my ears after the first couple of bars of track 2 And, maybe a theme here, on track 12 on CD2 someone says "One more" and I scream - "NO! Just the one is too many"Ho hum ... Still, it did result in The Beatles being mentioned in the news for getting a #1 album. Class never dies.
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Post by debjorgo on Oct 6, 2019 16:34:16 GMT -5
There should had been two approaches to the remixes. Do we need a new definitive mix? If that answer is no, then they should be giving you an alternative mix, completely different. Giles tried to make the whole album the new definitive mix. Insert Giles' comment here and you get some songs with the prior mix repeated.
I guess there are a lot of folks buying the album for the first time and my approach might come out sounding a little spotty. But there a lot of people, like me, who have the previous mix and are left still wanting new exciting mixes.
That said, I love this new release.
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Post by nine on Oct 6, 2019 18:53:22 GMT -5
I'm in it for the outakes. At the moment I'm trying to figure out who plays what on the outakes of Oh Darling!, and Old Brown Shoe. Of the former I reckon it's Mccartney on piano, George on bass and Lennon on guitar. I don't buy into it being Paul on drums on the latter.
One thing that I hadn't really paid much attention to before was how good Ringo's drumming is on this album and many of the outakes.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 8, 2019 20:03:35 GMT -5
Slightly out of context quote from Giles Martin in the above video "It sounds so good, why remix it?" Precisely! I'm going to admit to being underwhelmed by the remix. Maybe I need a few more listens. But in reality, much like Pepper and The Beatles, I don't really care for the remixed album, what I want are the various takes of the songs. Now it might be that I never bothered with many Abbey Road era bootlegs, but I was happy to see that CDs 2 & 3 contained lots of takes that I hadn't heard. Absolutely adored the "Last chance to be loud" take, but then had to disinfect my ears after the first couple of bars of track 2 And, maybe a theme here, on track 12 on CD2 someone says "One more" and I scream - "NO! Just the one is too many"Ho hum ... Still, it did result in The Beatles being mentioned in the news for getting a #1 album. Class never dies. LOL, yeah the "Maxwell" alternate take is about identical to my ears to the Anthology 3 version down to Paul making those dumb, childish noises. I wanted to grab my 12-Gauge Shotgun and shoot my speakers after listening to that horrible song yet again! George is funny when he says, "and all the bad bits" I am appalled that Giles Martin took out John Lennon's grunting or almost moaning at the end of "Come Together." Giles Martin can be so "white bread" and that is a good example. He is trying to take the sexuality out of "Come Together!" As I chanted at an anti-AR50 Rally I attended, "Put the 'Cum' Back In 'Come Together!'"
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 12, 2019 2:57:00 GMT -5
I am with you Nine, the alternate stuff is my favorite on AR50!
The alternate take of "The Ballad Of John And Yoko" is my highlight from the Deluxe Box! That is fantastic as we hear John and Paul working that magic late in the game!
The alternate "Here Comes The Sun" is exciting and gorgeous as that song has avoided major bootlegging over the years unlike a lot of other AR! I am disappointed Giles did not follow-up on that awesome bonus video from Martin Scorsese's Living in the Material World where George and Giles Martin play for Dhani Harrison the "forgotten" lead guitar fills George did but did not use for HCTS.
That would have been an awesome bonus track, more like Giles' work for LOVE, "Here Comes The Sun 2019" with those electric guitar fills brought way up in the mix! I am not suggesting that would be the best version, George Harrison & The Beatles released the best but it would be interesting and in the words of George Harrison, "Give me plenty of that guitar!"
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 12, 2019 3:29:28 GMT -5
Hey gang, Abbey Road is #3 on The BILLBOARD 200 Album Chart and is the "Greatest Gainer" of the week of October 12, 2019! www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200That is exciting as Rocko has reported it being #1 in the U.K. Let's go America, push AR to #1 again in 2019!
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Post by keith on Oct 12, 2019 14:58:45 GMT -5
I am disappointed Giles did not follow-up on that awesome bonus video from Martin Scorsese's Living in the Material World where George and Giles Martin play for Dhani Harrison the "forgotten" lead guitar fills George did but did not use for HCTS. Goodness, I am getting old! I'd forgotten that. Should have used that instead of Track 12, CD2
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Post by RockoRoll on Oct 13, 2019 16:29:14 GMT -5
Ringo Starr: Abbey Road wasn't meant to be The Beatles' last album
www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49991164
Last week, The Beatles' Abbey Road returned to number one, almost 50 years after its original release.
Until recently, it was believed the band had entered the studio knowing they were making their final album - hoping to go out on a high after the fractious sessions for Let It Be.
But Beatles expert Mark Lewisohn recently uncovered a tape of the Fab Four discussing a follow-up in 1969.
Now Ringo Starr has confirmed the band wanted to keep recording into the '70s.
"We did do Abbey Road and we were like, 'Okay that's pretty good,'" he told BBC 6 Music, "but none of us said, 'OK, that's the last time we'll ever play together'. Nobody said that. I never felt that.
"We'd made this record, and then we would go off and do whatever we wanted to do. And then Paul would call us and say, 'Hey, you want to go in the studio lads?' and we'd do another one.
"So it was not the end - because in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make. So I never felt it [the end of the band] was in stone."
Starr also recalled the creation of the famous medley that made up Abbey Road's finale.
"Everybody was writing at a great level because they always did - but on side two, everybody wasn't finishing the songs. But that medley? It works so great.
"It's like we could do no wrong: You don't have to finish the song! Let's just edit them together and it works like a mini play. I love that section. It was really fun."
(Although Abbey Road was released before Let It Be, it was actually the final album the band worked on. The sessions for Let It Be took place earlier in 1969, with producer Phil Spector finishing off the record in early 1970, adding new mixes and overdubs.)
The star was speaking ahead of the release of his latest book, Another Day In The Life, which is the third in a series of collections of his own photographs - charting his life from childhood up to recent tours with his current group The All-Starr Band.
The band also play alongside Ringo on his new album, his twentieth, entitled What's My Name?
It sees the drummer working with a huge cast of collaborators including The Eagles' Joe Walsh, Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers' keyboardist Benmont Tench and, on the song Grow Old With Me, his former bandmate Sir Paul McCartney.
"It's the best. I love playing with him," Ringo says of teaming up with his old friend. "We played a lot together in 'that band' and he's still in the most melodic player. He's still incredible, for me, I feel the emotion when plays."
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 16, 2019 9:19:04 GMT -5
Well, the dream is over! Abbey Road 50 dropped 10 slots to 13 after obtaining its highest spot at #3! 😢 😡 www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200Number 3 is for losers! Damn-it, I know it was "Maxwell" that screwed us from going #1! Thanks Paul! And what is the matter with American Beatles' fans?! AR50 hit #1 in the U.K. and those people don't even like The Beatles anymore, bored of them and call them passé! American Beatles' fans suck! We don't want to win! I have never been more ashamed or embarrassed to be an American Beatles' fan than right now! #13 is disgraceful for AR50!
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Post by debjorgo on Oct 16, 2019 17:45:15 GMT -5
Maybe they can get some Korean look-alikes to pose as the band and they can pretend to be K-pop. The number 1 album is SuperM: The First Mini Album, the debut album by K-pop band SuperM. Abbey Road spent it's time at number 1. Let's see if SuperM can rack up 330 weeks on the chart.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 19, 2019 12:01:59 GMT -5
Okay, I am officially Abbey Roaded out!
Next...come on Deluxe LIB with at least six audio CDs of bonus music material and we know a film is coming from that Hobbit guy.
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Post by keith on Oct 19, 2019 14:35:29 GMT -5
AR50 hit #1 in the U.K. and those people don't even like The Beatles anymore, bored of them and call them passé! I suspect that many of my fellow Brits are idiots! More likely that after 50 years they think it's no longer cool/wicked/rad/whatever to admit that they like the Beatles. I wonder whether those that bought the CD did what buyers of Mr Lennon's first solo album did, and asked for it to be put into a plain brown bag.
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Post by debjorgo on Oct 19, 2019 15:37:18 GMT -5
AR50 hit #1 in the U.K. and those people don't even like The Beatles anymore, bored of them and call them passé! I suspect that many of my fellow Brits are idiots! More likely that after 50 years they think it's no longer cool/wicked/rad/whatever to admit that they like the Beatles. I wonder whether those that bought the CD did what buyers of Mr Lennon's first solo album did, and asked for it to be put into a plain brown bag. Well, Paul's feet were naked.
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Post by stavros on Oct 19, 2019 17:00:24 GMT -5
I haven't any major complaints about AR50. The basic CD was £8. I think I paid around twice that amount back in the 1980s. And probably more for the remastered version in 2009 as part of the box set. This is a conservative remix in line with the Pepper (which needed it) and White Album remixes. Where Giles couldn't improve the mix he gave it a few subtle changes. The Beatles are still Box Office in 2019. Although Love in 2006 did a fairly decent job of it. But there is no need for radical remixes of all albums at this stage. This was a sonic "upgrade" of the Beatles catalogue to bring it into line with 21st century production techniques and to give younger listeners and long term fans a contemporary Beatles sound. The icing on the cake rather than a new recipe. Pepper needed it because of the archaic panning of vocals and instruments in the original mixes. The White Album only needed subtle changes. Which in the main Giles succeeded at. Some of John's vocals sound so much better, Martha and Goodnight are more expressive due to wider soundscape and Long, Long, Long sounded so much crisper and audible in it's new form. I think the true audiophiles will benefit most from the 96kHz/24 bit remixes/remastering. To all accounts it is crystal clear and jaw dropping. Alas I am not an audiophile and so only purchased the 2xCD set. Which disappointingly omits the takes of Goodbye, Come and Get It, Ballad of John and Yoko and Old Brown Shoe. But the outtakes are interesting for sure. As for the remix here's my appraisal. Come Together and Something sound splendid with slight adjustments. Maxwell has never sounded better with that Moog track clearer in the mix. Despite it being a major factor in the break up of the Beatles, Paul's insistence on 525 takes appears to have finally sounded perfect with this mix. Oh! Darling has been over sweetened for my taste. But is at least different with more prominent harmonies. Octopus's Garden is still a great, fun Ringo song with the enhanced undersea bubble effects a nice touch. I Want You, however saw the Beatles venturing into uncharted territory in 1969 with a fusion of styles. This updated mix sounds a touch like Carlos Santana doing prog rock. IWY 2019 is sonically superior to its original. It not only sounds edgily experimental, it slowly builds and builds as the white noise drenches the track and then it stops abruptly. As it always did. Originally ending side 1... Next, here comes the wonderfully, joyous Here Comes the Sun. How can any Beatles fan, or indeed anyone, not love this track? The Beatles liked their meteorological themed songs. Yet George wrote the finest of them all. The simple understated counter melody of the Moog synth, the orchestra, the guitars, the harmonies and the vocals all sound even more perfect than they ever had before in this mix. A great song is just a great song isn't it? Because follows with a now enhanced and beautiful multi-tracked, three part harmony from John, Paul and George. Pierced only by a shimmering harpsichord that shines even brighter on this mix. The short but haunting Moog synthesizer solo sounds almost like the melody that drops of rain would make as they slowly fall in the warmth of the sun from the previous track. You Never Give Me Your Money has Paul's vocals sharply up front with a widening of the stereo picture of the instrumentation to great effect.
But oh! Then Sun King melts into the mix like a piece of left over chocolate cake in the sun. The chirping of the crickets over that slow lazy bass line makes you feel like "The Sun" king, Rupert Murdoch himself. On the hottest of hot, hot days, while ignoring Greta Thunberg and her teenage angst about climate change. You might feel a twinge of guilt as that ice slowly melts in your drink. But you enjoy the moment as you doze off in your hammock knowing full well she won't be part of the headlines in your newspaper next day. Mean Mr. Mustard isn't mustard as mustard as people in the south of England say. It's fine but I prefer John's almost drunken sounding outtake... Polythene Pam is another John song where he's doing characters like Paul would. The thick scouse vocal is cool. The guitars bite. But that ". ..she's so good looking that she looks like a man" line would never be tolerated by people in this day and age. People who have had their gender neutered by means I am never quite particularly clear about. Then there's the whole discussion about polythene and the damage to our environment it has caused. I don't feel like Rupert Murdoch any more now......"Oh Look Out!"..... This is where I took a BREAK to take a load off my mind.....Next up - Bathroom Window which is a track that seems to have been given a mix with more breathing space ..This reminded me to go back and open my bathroom window too. Nothing better than some breathing space is there? Although it sounds improved. Those harmonies and lead guitar lines seem to float around to some irritation....But moving on swiftly. Golden Slumbers - oh my! Smiles awoke me as I rose. I'm not referring to remembering to open the bathroom window as that joke has now gone stale. Does that orchestra not sweep around Paul's vocals, the bass and Ringo's drums and hit a sweet spot somewhere in your soul listening to this? Carry That Weight - Luckily I'd taken that weight off my mind earlier and was no longer carrying it. Ringo's singing is clearer. But the orchestra and horn section sound like they are in outer space. They are that distant. Not sure about this one....The reverb seems to have been set way too out there. The End - And what an ending it is! You can now hear John singing the "love you" lines in a low register. The guitars are duelling left, right and centre and Ringo's drums are busting at your ears. A glorious Beatles finale. What a conclusion! But ultimately the love you take is equal to whatever you make of this remix....
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