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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 13, 2008 10:02:39 GMT -5
Just finished watching this on YouTube:
And am I the only one that gets the feeling that the combination of Rodgers and Queen works better, for the most part, than the All-Starrs? Maybe because the Queen arrangement is semi-permanent, while the All-Starrs change every time out? And Brian May is such a damn good player? I will say that Rodgers doesn't work on the Queen songs as well as he does on his own, but he sounds much better with them in this clip than when I first saw video of him a couple of years ago.
I wish Ringo could borrow something from this. Maybe a permanent big sideman?
Any comments??
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Post by mikev on Aug 13, 2008 12:01:03 GMT -5
As a huge fan of Bad Company, I compare Rodgers' stint with Queen more to Sammy Hagar joining Van Halen than Phil Collins taking over as vocalist in Genesis. In other words, he is his own force with his own fan base, playing with a excellent and intact (sans original vocalist) band, so it is going to sound great, but it is not the original Queen. Collins pretty much sounded like Gabriel for the first few albums before morphing into a more commercialized sound.
Ringo has had his array of multi-timers including Joe Walsh, Mark Rivera and Sheila E-with Rivera closest to what you describe (a big SIDEMAN albeit not a big star).
I would love to see Ringo grab Mike Nesmith for an All-star tour. But you would never get him on a permanent basis, nor any mega classic rocker.
Nilsson is long gone-he would have done it maybe.
My fantasy All-Starr band: Mike Nesmith, Mickey Dolenz, Joey Molland, Chris Difford, Glenn Tilbrook, Jools Holland.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 13, 2008 16:14:51 GMT -5
As a huge fan of Bad Company, I compare Rodgers' stint with Queen more to Sammy Hagar joining Van Halen than Phil Collins taking over as vocalist in Genesis. In other words, he is his own force with his own fan base, playing with a excellent and intact (sans original vocalist) band, so it is going to sound great, but it is not the original Queen. Collins pretty much sounded like Gabriel for the first few albums before morphing into a more commercialized sound. Ringo has had his array of multi-timers including Joe Walsh, Mark Rivera and Sheila E-with Rivera closest to what you describe (a big SIDEMAN albeit not a big star). I would love to see Ringo grab Mike Nesmith for an All-star tour. But you would never get him on a permanent basis, nor any mega classic rocker. Nilsson is long gone-he would have done it maybe. My fantasy All-Starr band: Mike Nesmith, Mickey Dolenz, Joey Molland, Chris Difford, Glenn Tilbrook, Jools Holland. I don't agree with the comparison as that Sammy isn't nearly the talent Rodgers is. Not that Rodgers is a megastar, but Sammy is such an offensive twerp. I'd love to see Ringo go for Nesmith, but he's basically retired. Davy Jones or Dolenz would be fun, though. Somehow, I don't think they would.
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Post by OldFred on Aug 13, 2008 17:12:28 GMT -5
I would love to see Ringo grab Mike Nesmith for an All-star tour. But you would never get him on a permanent basis, nor any mega classic rocker. My fantasy All-Starr band: Mike Nesmith, Mickey Dolenz, Joey Molland, Chris Difford, Glenn Tilbrook, Jools Holland. I'd love to see Ringo go for Nesmith, but he's basically retired. Davy Jones or Dolenz would be fun, though. Somehow, I don't think they would. Nesmith would never do it since as cited he's pretty much retired from live concerts. Plus, there's still a bad taste since he pulled out of the American leg of the 1997 Monkees Reunion Tour after the British leg got a bad drubbing from the press there, though the fans loved it. (The British Press has always been considered the worst). As much as I love Nesmith, he'd be too unreliable to sign up. Dolenz, however, would be a great choice since he was the singer on most of the Monkees hits and Ringo usually has a second drummer on his tours and Micky could easily fit the bill. He's a better drummer than people give him credit for. As for Difford & Tilbrook, Squeeze have reunited for a tour, so that pretty much would write them off. And Joey Molland? Do you REALLY think he would ever get involved with a Beatle again?
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 13, 2008 18:04:06 GMT -5
My fantasy All-Starr band: Mike Nesmith, Mickey Dolenz, Joey Molland, Chris Difford, Glenn Tilbrook, Jools Holland. That would be good for sure. My dream All-Starr Band was one Ringo actually assembled: His Fourth All-Starr Band in 1997 consisting of Ringo, Gary Brooker, Jack Bruce, Peter Frampton, Simon Kirke and Mark River. On paper and in the flesh that was an amazingly tight band that wasn't just fun but kicked out rock and pop anthems. I caught this line-up at the Rosemont Horizon Stadium north of Chicago and I was transfixed that entire concert. I could not believe the music I was hearing for a $35.00 ticket. That might have been the most "serious" tour what with the Cream and Procol Harum material but it was awesome. Ringo was among his peers and the playing was exquisite. Frampton is a real guitar slinger and watching Jack Bruce on bass is a special treat. Put Ringo on drums along with Brooker on keyboards and that is a "supergroup."
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Post by sayne on Aug 13, 2008 20:28:02 GMT -5
Back to Bad Company, I posted this on the old board, but have since noticed that the video of it is not around anymore, but the audio is. It's a reunited Bad Company doing a medley of "Rock n Roll Fantasy/Ticket to Ride/and I Feel Fine". You can find it at rhapsody.com. Type in Bad Company in the search. Enjoy.
The video is out there somewhere. Like Halley's Comet, it will return.
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Post by revolver66 on Aug 13, 2008 23:33:33 GMT -5
Paul Rodgers & Queen work pretty good when they are doing Free/Bad Company Tracks(Cause Paul originally sang these). However the Queen songs just don't sound right without Freddie(how can you replace him)? I would be very interested in NEW Material with this line up though. That being said this is a Group that is going for a steady membership. The All Stars concept is much different and I'll bet for many more acceptable(just ask a Hardcore Mercury Fan what they think about Queen/Rodgers).
Now it would be cool if Queen/Rodgers became part of the All Star Band for a Tour(especially if they don't plan on recording any New Material). I mean you could have the Best Of Ringo/Queen,& Free/Bad Company all in one night!! Heck you could even add a Few Firm Tracks as Paul Rodgers was in that band with Jimmy Page.
Also to be fair to Ringo..He has had some Real Rock Royalty with these All Star Shows..John Entwistle/Jack Bruce/Todd Rundgren/Billy Preston/and so many others. What would be the Perfect All Star Band? Ringo/Dylan/Neil Young/John Fogerty/Paul McCartney/Ray Davies/Pete Townshend..Yeah I know there's no way but what a show that would be!!!
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Post by mikev on Aug 14, 2008 0:32:44 GMT -5
I was fortunate to see the 2000 edition of Ringo from a 4th row in a theatre in New Brunswick. Jack Bruce was brilliant-still on his game unlike the Cream reunions post his illness where he was just a shell of himself; Ringo was great on drums for the Cream tunes.
As for Nesmith-I just thought there was some common stuff between Ringo and Nes in the early 70s.
Entwistle was a great member, and perhaps Zak wouldn't have gotten off to as good of a start without Entwistle on tour.
For the record I am not a Sammy Hagar fan, but I was pointing out that they (Van Halen) still had a successful stint with a new front man that was NOT an unknown.
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