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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 14, 2009 14:06:36 GMT -5
..Baseball more enjoyable than Football..Not for me whatsoever.. P.S. JoeK why insult those that do like Football? Different strokes for different folks I guess. How is what I said against football being insulting to anyone personally? What's the difference between what I said, and what you wrote above here, saying "not for me whatsoever" that you don't care for baseball? I'm not insulted by that. Keep in mind too that my football comment was in response to sayne's playful tweaking of "leading real and more productive lives". And speaking of insulting people, why don't you focus on sayne for bringing my wife into it and incorrectly judging our relationship and insulting both of us?
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Post by gripweed on Sept 14, 2009 14:42:57 GMT -5
Paul often liked crisp, clean recordings and man do his songs recorded as such really jump out on these remasters. As an example, "Good Day Sunshine" on the 2009 stereo Revolver explodes out of the speakers in the remastered version. John liked distorted, filtered, altered recordings and from the same album "She Said She Said" isn't nearly so dramatic in improvement(still, the bass and drums are better there but the vocals seem about the same) yet the remastered 2009 stereo "Tomorrow Never Knows" is very exciting so go figure? I was a little disappointed with "Fool On The Hill" from the remastered stereo MMT. I thought that would literally have the lads step out of my speakers into my room but it didn't quite feel that way. I do absolutely love the 2009 stereo remastered MMT though. The rest is very, very good! Hearing SFF and PL there reminded me exactly why I fell in love with this band 34 years ago and never left this odyssey. Your post is amazing because I honestly though the same thing while Listening to the Mono Revolver. Paul's songs sound so crisp and alive(especially Good Day Sunshine..maybe the Mono Mix is just better). However some of the other Tracks were impressive such as I'm Only Sleeping and TNKs in Mono. I also thought the same about MMT..I thought Fool would be better than it was but it was still great. Your SFF/PL experience was the same for me only regarding I Am The Walrus. It's Tracks like this one that always keep me amazed with the Beatles. I was also lucky that My Football Team..The Steelers played Thursday Night..and pulled out a win(it was close)..Baseball more enjoyable than Football..Not for me whatsoever..Go Stillers Go!! P.S. JoeK why insult those that do like Football? Different strokes for different folks I guess. Revolver you just had to bring up the Steelers beating my Titans. Just for that I am stomping on a terrible towel. ;D
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 14, 2009 14:48:34 GMT -5
True..Sayne was out of line. I guess he took your comments out of context and responded negatively.Unfortunately talking about one's personal life can get some of that on this board.Maybe Sayne was just joking and if came off as an Insult. My Baseball statement came from Steve saying Football talk is boring compared to Baseball(just a friendly jab really). I have nothing against any sport..How one lives their Life whether another thinks it is productive or not is their own choice. I mean there are many who think spending days or weeks listening to these Beatles Box Sets is a waste..Who cares??? We will still listen and love them. I also re-read your Football post and it sounded a bit mean spirited to those who do watch Football(not just Sayne). Be honest! I am not on this Beatles Board to argue or Condemn anyone as we all have VALID Opinions.
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 14, 2009 14:50:03 GMT -5
Your post is amazing because I honestly though the same thing while Listening to the Mono Revolver. Paul's songs sound so crisp and alive(especially Good Day Sunshine..maybe the Mono Mix is just better). However some of the other Tracks were impressive such as I'm Only Sleeping and TNKs in Mono. I also thought the same about MMT..I thought Fool would be better than it was but it was still great. Your SFF/PL experience was the same for me only regarding I Am The Walrus. It's Tracks like this one that always keep me amazed with the Beatles. I was also lucky that My Football Team..The Steelers played Thursday Night..and pulled out a win(it was close)..Baseball more enjoyable than Football..Not for me whatsoever..Go Stillers Go!! P.S. JoeK why insult those that do like Football? Different strokes for different folks I guess. Revolver you just had to bring up the Steelers beating my Titans. Just for that I am stomping on a terrible towel. ;D I really thought the Titans had it after Ward screwed up! Please not the Towel!! ;D
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Post by fabdba on Sept 14, 2009 17:43:05 GMT -5
Now I realize I can sometimes be an over-emotional female, but I Me Mine brought tears to my eyes, even though LIB is not my favorite album.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 14, 2009 19:59:26 GMT -5
Now I realize I can sometimes be an over-emotional female, but I Me Mine brought tears to my eyes, even though LIB is not my favorite album. I haven't gotten to LIB yet but I remember being delighted at the LIB...Naked version of "For You Blue" and hearing for the first time the acoustic guitar runs that were previously buried. I can't wait to hear LIB. I need to pull myself away from the damn computer and just listen!
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Post by wolfsblood on Sept 15, 2009 21:03:45 GMT -5
I thought Abbey Rd was fantastic and Let It Be has been restored to it's rightful place as the definitive Let It Be. I prefer the remastered Let It Be in every way to Let It Be... Naked, sound quality, mixes, Spector's production and track order. Speaking of Let It Be... Naked, isn't it true that it actually retains a few of Spector's additions? Such as some choir effects on the song Let It Be? I think that album was sort of a waste in hindsight, except for the nice alternate take of The Long And Winding Road of course. On Saturday 9-12 I went to Target and they had a great sale on the new Beatles discs. They were marked down to $11.99 (White Album was $16.99), and they were giving away $5 gift card for the purchase of any two Beatle discs. I picked up the White Album, Yellow Submarine, Sgt. Pepper, and Let It Be. I've listened to YS and LIB and I'm happy with the sound overall. I'd say they sound about as good as The Doors remasters. However I'd say they may not be as good as the job Ted Jensen did with The Capitol Albums box sets, which seem to have a bit more punch. But that's not a complaint, these are very good and I like the new booklets a lot. They're worth the money. I think this may have been mentioned but I noticed that for some reason you almost can't hear Lennon's classic comment before For You Blue about the Queen saying no to pot-smoking FBI members! I admit that pisses me off! Another thing I noticed is that it seems like they made a mistake in the booklet for YS. The notes they say are from the original UK LP jacket seem to be from the US version, and vice versa. Just wondering, do the mono versions of the new CDs have the same booklets as the stereo versions?
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 16, 2009 1:00:20 GMT -5
I thought Abbey Rd was fantastic and Let It Be has been restored to it's rightful place as the definitive Let It Be. I prefer the remastered Let It Be in every way to Let It Be... Naked, sound quality, mixes, Spector's production and track order. Speaking of Let It Be... Naked, isn't it true that it actually retains a few of Spector's additions? Such as some choir effects on the song Let It Be? I think that album was sort of a waste in hindsight, except for the nice alternate take of The Long And Winding Road of course. On Saturday 9-12 I went to Target and they had a great sale on the new Beatles discs. They were marked down to $11.99 (White Album was $16.99), and they were giving away $5 gift card for the purchase of any two Beatle discs. I picked up the White Album, Yellow Submarine, Sgt. Pepper, and Let It Be. I've listened to YS and LIB and I'm happy with the sound overall. I'd say they sound about as good as The Doors remasters. However I'd say they may not be as good as the job Ted Jensen did with The Capitol Albums box sets, which seem to have a bit more punch. But that's not a complaint, these are very good and I like the new booklets a lot. They're worth the money. I think this may have been mentioned but I noticed that for some reason you almost can't hear Lennon's classic comment before For You Blue about the Queen saying no to pot-smoking FBI members! I admit that pisses me off! Another thing I noticed is that it seems like they made a mistake in the booklet for YS. The notes they say are from the original UK LP jacket seem to be from the US version, and vice versa. Just wondering, do the mono versions of the new CDs have the same booklets as the stereo versions? There are no booklets with the Mono Cds.There is a book for the set that is 44 pages(I think as my set is in another room at the moment). However Yellow Sub was never issued in True Mono so that Cd isn't in the set(although all the Beatles Tracks from the Sub LP are).The Mono Set doesn't include Abbey Road or Let It Be for the same reason. Also with regards to the Capitol Boxsets. They will always sound different than the UK versions(these Remasters). They are from different Tapes often embelished with Added Echo/Reverb etc. Different EQ levels were also used that make the Music sound different. It wasn't what the Beatles intended but some of those Mixes sound really good. I think the New Remasters are Excellent(some sound better in Mono and some are better in Stereo).
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Post by sayne on Sept 16, 2009 7:32:21 GMT -5
Why is the mono set more expensive? It's fewer records. Am I missing something? Is it a supply thing? If so, that's a rip. They could have pressed more and not made them limited.
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 16, 2009 7:47:59 GMT -5
Why is the mono set more expensive? It's fewer records. Am I missing something? Is it a supply thing? If so, that's a rip. They could have pressed more and not made them limited. You do get two more albums worth, but it's as a two-fer of RS and HELP having the stereo '65 mixes included. Otherwise, it's the b.s. excuse of it being " Limited Edition" Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by mikev on Sept 16, 2009 8:26:00 GMT -5
I thought Abbey Rd was fantastic and Let It Be has been restored to it's rightful place as the definitive Let It Be. I prefer the remastered Let It Be in every way to Let It Be... Naked, sound quality, mixes, Spector's production and track order. Speaking of Let It Be... Naked, isn't it true that it actually retains a few of Spector's additions? Such as some choir effects on the song Let It Be? I think that album was sort of a waste in hindsight, except for the nice alternate take of The Long And Winding Road of course. The Let it Be version on LIBN utilized the Paul, George and Linda "ahhs" recorded in 1970, as well as George's 1970 overdubbed lead (I think). This replaced John and George's live "oohs"-which were nice-but a little weak. Anthology of course features the full 5.1 version live-so in effect-not counting the remasters there are 4 official versions-single, Let it Be, Anthology, LIBN
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 16, 2009 8:29:07 GMT -5
I tell you, I'm just overwhelmed with the everything done to these Beatles albums. The mono box has wonderful packaging, with the CDs in cardboard sleeves with a plastic overwrap (resealable like a Dr. Ebbetts release) and they are easy to remove from the sleeves. Comes with a 40+page booklet. The stereo discs are in beautiful digipacks with glossy booklets with new liner notes, session info, etc. Classy presentation all around. The audio is what makes these remasters the talk of the town though. The mono discs are crisp, full of snap and punch. There are times things like a cowbell jumps out at you unexpectedly from a mono recording. Case in point: MONO MASTERS disc #1, "I Call Your Name". Whoa. How'd they do that? SGT. PEPPER'S rocks harder. The WHITE ALBUM same thng. Stereo PAST MASTERS - just listen to the opening part of "Thank You Girl" with the hard strumming guitars and pounding drums by Ringo. It will knock you out of your seat. Crank up "Paperback Writer" and you are enwrapped in a rock and roll song that gains power like never before. Guitar jabs on "I Me Mine" from LET IT BE pierce your ear drums. They want to bleed. ABBEY ROAD...the drums. Ringo's drums benefit as well as Paul's bass. My speakers never heard such bass frequences before. It rattles and I have to turn the bass down! The moog synthesiser isn't muddy. The anvil on "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" feels like a lightning bolt to the brain. I've never heard bongos on "A Hard Day's Night" until I spun the stereo remaster. This clarity and newfound power to these recordings is remarkable. A hazy layer that always masked these recordings are now gone. It's almost like hearing new mixes...but they're not! They sound like a revitalized band thanks to the wonderful and superb job done by the mastering team. Right now, I'm redescovering them, hearing new anomolies, and detail with such definition that I never expected to hear. I'm now in Abbey Road's Studio 2! Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 16, 2009 10:17:16 GMT -5
I tell you, I'm just overwhelmed with the everything done to these Beatles albums. Help, I need "Beatles' Intervention!" I am experiencing diminishing returns on these remasters. Each new one I am listening to sounds less amazing than the one before! I need people here to tell me, "Hold on John, John hold on, it's going to be alright..." It is possibly: (1) Beatles' burn-out; (2) the late hours I am forced to play them when I can get the stereo by myself and I am tired and cranky; and (3) related to #2 when I do play these late I can't crank the volume like I should. My stereo system is good enough although based on these remasters I am shopping for a new system! Help! As to packaging, I hate the way the stereo discs are slid into the cardboard covers! The mono discs come with both a plastic c.d. sleeve and a reproduction of the original paper sleeve the vinyl album came with: you get to choose which one the disc slides into. And as Beatle Bob mentions, I love the mono album covers having the plastic overwrap to protect the covers themselves. But on the stereo ones you must slide the disc into a sleeve built into the cardboard album cover. Already I have had two stereo c.d.'s skip on first play because of dust or some other foreign object on my otherwise virgin discs! Once I clean the disc it is fine but I haven't had a c.d. skip or be defective in 20 years. My player reads discs accurately and these damn things are only 35 to 40 minutes long! Not a lot of information on the disc to get messed up. I am also going to store the stereo box standing up as otherwise the stereo albums are piled on top of each other in those two storage drawers and they will press against each other and over time could damage the covers if the Box is placed on its side. Another small beef is the Yellow Submarine booklet has no pictures of the real Beatles, it is all cartoon images. Why not have a nice photo of the lads from their appearance at the end of the film? I don't know but each album I play is diminishing in greatness to me. Maybe it is because I can't play them ever before 9:30 p.m and I can't crank them.
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 16, 2009 10:48:17 GMT -5
I have the same issue in regards to being able to enjoy them on the stereo and to play them loud. I have to usually play them at a lower volume in the evening (my kids have homework to do and wife whines) in the evening. I've had a few rare moments where I can open up the volume and let the remasters rattle the walls Playing it at a lower volume it's harder to discern any big differences, naturally. I've been using my portable CD player and iPod a lot. Yes, i can hear improvements via these playback systems, but it's on the stereo, loud, in full fidelity that I hear the differences fully. There is so much to hear and discover. Admittingly it's material we know well, but for me, to find new things in the recordings is what's making is special and revelatory for me. Though it's a lot of familiar material to go through again, so that's where the fatigue may also come into play? For the stereo discs, take your old '87 discs out of the jewel cases and replace them with the remasters. Store the old discs in paper sleeves and forget about 'em. This way you'll protect the new discs from being scratched coming out of the digipacks. Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 16, 2009 10:57:40 GMT -5
I have the same issue in regards to being able to enjoy them on the stereo and to play them loud. I have to usually play them at a lower volume in the evening (my kids have homework to do and wife whines) in the evening. I've had a few rare moments where I can open up the volume and let the remasters rattle the walls Playing it at a lower volume it's harder to discern any big differences, naturally. I've been using my portable CD player and iPod a lot. Yes, i can hear improvements via these playback systems, but it's on the stereo, loud, in full fidelity that I hear the differences fully. There is so much to hear and discover. Admittingly it's material we know well, but for me, to find new things in the recordings is what's making is special and revelatory for me. Though it's a lot of familiar material to go through again, so that's where the fatigue may also come into play? For the stereo discs, take your old '87 discs out of the jewel cases and replace them with the remasters. Store the old discs in paper sleeves and forget about 'em. This way you'll protect the new discs from being scratched coming out of the digipacks. Regards, Beatle Bob Thanks Bob, I feel better! How much do I owe you and do you accept Medicaid for payment? ;D
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 16, 2009 11:12:14 GMT -5
I have the same issue in regards to being able to enjoy them on the stereo and to play them loud. I have to usually play them at a lower volume in the evening (my kids have homework to do and wife whines) in the evening. I've had a few rare moments where I can open up the volume and let the remasters rattle the walls Playing it at a lower volume it's harder to discern any big differences, naturally. I've been using my portable CD player and iPod a lot. Yes, i can hear improvements via these playback systems, but it's on the stereo, loud, in full fidelity that I hear the differences fully. There is so much to hear and discover. Admittingly it's material we know well, but for me, to find new things in the recordings is what's making is special and revelatory for me. Though it's a lot of familiar material to go through again, so that's where the fatigue may also come into play? For the stereo discs, take your old '87 discs out of the jewel cases and replace them with the remasters. Store the old discs in paper sleeves and forget about 'em. This way you'll protect the new discs from being scratched coming out of the digipacks. Regards, Beatle Bob Thanks Bob, I feel better! How much do I owe you and do you accept Medicaid for payment? ;D I accept Visa, Master Card, American Express and Money orders only ...just a thanks is fine Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by lowbasso on Sept 16, 2009 12:21:21 GMT -5
For the stereo discs, take your old '87 discs out of the jewel cases and replace them with the remasters. Store the old discs in paper sleeves and forget about 'em. This way you'll protect the new discs from being scratched coming out of the digipacks. Regards, Beatle Bob That's a great idea! I was thinking that myself as I am already tired of repeatedly trying to "squeeze" the new Remasters out of the cardboard sleeves they came in.
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 16, 2009 14:39:32 GMT -5
I tell you, I'm just overwhelmed with the everything done to these Beatles albums. The mono box has wonderful packaging, with the CDs in cardboard sleeves with a plastic overwrap (resealable like a Dr. Ebbetts release) and they are easy to remove from the sleeves. Comes with a 40+page booklet. The stereo discs are in beautiful digipacks with glossy booklets with new liner notes, session info, etc. Classy presentation all around. The audio is what makes these remasters the talk of the town though. The mono discs are crisp, full of snap and punch. There are times things like a cowbell jumps out at you unexpectedly from a mono recording. Case in point: MONO MASTERS disc #1, "I Call Your Name". Whoa. How'd they do that? SGT. PEPPER'S rocks harder. The WHITE ALBUM same thng. Stereo PAST MASTERS - just listen to the opening part of "Thank You Girl" with the hard strumming guitars and pounding drums by Ringo. It will knock you out of your seat. Crank up "Paperback Writer" and you are enwrapped in a rock and roll song that gains power like never before. Guitar jabs on "I Me Mine" from LET IT BE pierce your ear drums. They want to bleed. ABBEY ROAD...the drums. Ringo's drums benefit as well as Paul's bass. My speakers never heard such bass frequences before. It rattles and I have to turn the bass down! The moog synthesiser isn't muddy. The anvil on "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" feels like a lightning bolt to the brain. I've never heard bongos on "A Hard Day's Night" until I spun the stereo remaster. This clarity and newfound power to these recordings is remarkable. A hazy layer that always masked these recordings are now gone. It's almost like hearing new mixes...but they're not! They sound like a revitalized band thanks to the wonderful and superb job done by the mastering team. Right now, I'm redescovering them, hearing new anomolies, and detail with such definition that I never expected to hear. I'm now in Abbey Road's Studio 2! Regards, Beatle Bob Beatle Bob..It is so great to hear a review from you(as you have so many boots etc and would really know the score). I agree with you 100%!! Even though there may be vinyl that sounds better tracking it down and then finding it in NM/Mint shape and then the price..These remasters are a Godsend!! I was also amazed at how some of the Mono sounds so great(I'll bet many would think it was Stereo! With that in mind I also thought I Call Your Name was killer though as we know the cowbell is different on the Mono & The Stereo(JSD did you catch that)?? It is true that what is happening with JSD is listening to the Later Cds is less rewarding(but it is rewarding for sure) because the Old Cds did a better job on the Later Titles. I would love it if you did a review of the Monos VS The Stereos and tell us which one you prefer(or if it is a tie). Thanks Beatle Bob..Your enthusiasm is exactly what JSD needs..Yeah Yeah Yeah....It's a Great Time To Be A Beatles Fan!!
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 16, 2009 14:44:31 GMT -5
Why is the mono set more expensive? It's fewer records. Am I missing something? Is it a supply thing? If so, that's a rip. They could have pressed more and not made them limited. It is supposed to be limited but it is so much nicer than the Stereo Box Set. Super Classy with Inner sleeves,Plastic to protect the covers(which are killer reproductions of all the Original UK LP Covers down to all the small details). It was also designed for the Hardcore Beatles Fan and when that happens the price is usually higher(but in this case worth every penny)!! Think about it. If you were to want a NM/Mint Original UK Press of any Beatle Mono LP you would have to pay between 300-500 Dollars!! The UK Mono White Album can actually command 1000.00 or more. In that mind set the Box Set is a Steal. I guess as George H said "It's All Up To What You Value"
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 16, 2009 14:51:49 GMT -5
I tell you, I'm just overwhelmed with the everything done to these Beatles albums. Help, I need "Beatles' Intervention!" I am experiencing diminishing returns on these remasters. Each new one I am listening to sounds less amazing than the one before! I need people here to tell me, "Hold on John, John hold on, it's going to be alright..." It is possibly: (1) Beatles' burn-out; (2) the late hours I am forced to play them when I can get the stereo by myself and I am tired and cranky; and (3) related to #2 when I do play these late I can't crank the volume like I should. My stereo system is good enough although based on these remasters I am shopping for a new system! Help! As to packaging, I hate the way the stereo discs are slid into the cardboard covers! The mono discs come with both a plastic c.d. sleeve and a reproduction of the original paper sleeve the vinyl album came with: you get to choose which one the disc slides into. And as Beatle Bob mentions, I love the mono album covers having the plastic overwrap to protect the covers themselves. But on the stereo ones you must slide the disc into a sleeve built into the cardboard album cover. Already I have had two stereo c.d.'s skip on first play because of dust or some other foreign object on my otherwise virgin discs! Once I clean the disc it is fine but I haven't had a c.d. skip or be defective in 20 years. My player reads discs accurately and these damn things are only 35 to 40 minutes long! Not a lot of information on the disc to get messed up. I am also going to store the stereo box standing up as otherwise the stereo albums are piled on top of each other in those two storage drawers and they will press against each other and over time could damage the covers if the Box is placed on its side. Another small beef is the Yellow Submarine booklet has no pictures of the real Beatles, it is all cartoon images. Why not have a nice photo of the lads from their appearance at the end of the film? I don't know but each album I play is diminishing in greatness to me. Maybe it is because I can't play them ever before 9:30 p.m and I can't crank them. Intervention here..Take A Break. These need to be cranked to get the Full Effect!! Also listen with another Beatles Fan if possible! As I said above the later Lps aren't as stunning as the Earlier ones because the Older Cds were done better in regards to these titles. However the Bass & Drums really shine on all the Remasters. Also reading others enthusiasm like Beatle Bob's will do the trick. It also helps to be in the mood for certain Cds(and not just listening to them in order or because you got the box and want to hear them all before it goes on the shelf). These Remasters are to be savored like fine wine..so don't rush them. I have the Mono Box and some of the Stereo ones. I have listened to alot but am waiting for the Mono Pepper..soon very soon. How was MMT in Mono compared to the Stereo? I have both and the Stereo was a real treat..Hope the Mono is too....
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 16, 2009 15:10:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the compliments, sir! . How was MMT in Mono compared to the Stereo? I have both and the Stereo was a real treat..Hope the Mono is too.... They are two different experiences. Some songs have mixing variations from mono to stereo as you know. There are many great sounding bootlegs out there of different stereo pressing and mono pressing. BUT these remasters ARE superior!. The stereo has a clarity (like the other stereo remasters) that is remarkable. Something I never expected to get out of these CDs. Or at least not to this extent! The mono still kicks butt! Thumping, pounding along. Two different experiences and both worthy of experiecing. Though I prefer (just slightly) the mono PEPPER experience. It seems to rock a bit more. Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by gripweed on Sept 16, 2009 21:20:29 GMT -5
Bob, which albums or songs do you think are hands down best heard on mono and the same with stereo.
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 16, 2009 21:27:37 GMT -5
Bob, which albums or songs do you think are hands down best heard on mono and the same with stereo. That's really hard since I like all variations. I may not be the best to ask in that regards. Comes down to personal preference. Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by sayne on Sept 16, 2009 22:13:08 GMT -5
. . . Thanks Bob, I feel better! How much do I owe you and do you accept Medicaid for payment? ;D I think 3 of the 5 health care proposals are going to cover this.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 16, 2009 23:56:59 GMT -5
Help, I need "Beatles' Intervention!" I am experiencing diminishing returns on these remasters. Each new one I am listening to sounds less amazing than the one before! I need people here to tell me, "Hold on John, John hold on, it's going to be alright..." It is possibly: (1) Beatles' burn-out; (2) the late hours I am forced to play them when I can get the stereo by myself and I am tired and cranky; and (3) related to #2 when I do play these late I can't crank the volume like I should. My stereo system is good enough although based on these remasters I am shopping for a new system! Help! As to packaging, I hate the way the stereo discs are slid into the cardboard covers! The mono discs come with both a plastic c.d. sleeve and a reproduction of the original paper sleeve the vinyl album came with: you get to choose which one the disc slides into. And as Beatle Bob mentions, I love the mono album covers having the plastic overwrap to protect the covers themselves. But on the stereo ones you must slide the disc into a sleeve built into the cardboard album cover. Already I have had two stereo c.d.'s skip on first play because of dust or some other foreign object on my otherwise virgin discs! Once I clean the disc it is fine but I haven't had a c.d. skip or be defective in 20 years. My player reads discs accurately and these damn things are only 35 to 40 minutes long! Not a lot of information on the disc to get messed up. I am also going to store the stereo box standing up as otherwise the stereo albums are piled on top of each other in those two storage drawers and they will press against each other and over time could damage the covers if the Box is placed on its side. Another small beef is the Yellow Submarine booklet has no pictures of the real Beatles, it is all cartoon images. Why not have a nice photo of the lads from their appearance at the end of the film? I don't know but each album I play is diminishing in greatness to me. Maybe it is because I can't play them ever before 9:30 p.m and I can't crank them. Intervention here..Take A Break. These need to be cranked to get the Full Effect!! Also listen with another Beatles Fan if possible! As I said above the later Lps aren't as stunning as the Earlier ones because the Older Cds were done better in regards to these titles. However the Bass & Drums really shine on all the Remasters. Also reading others enthusiasm like Beatle Bob's will do the trick. It also helps to be in the mood for certain Cds(and not just listening to them in order or because you got the box and want to hear them all before it goes on the shelf). These Remasters are to be savored like fine wine..so don't rush them. I have the Mono Box and some of the Stereo ones. I have listened to alot but am waiting for the Mono Pepper..soon very soon. How was MMT in Mono compared to the Stereo? I have both and the Stereo was a real treat..Hope the Mono is too.... Good advice, R66! I need to have the house to myself for a wekend, that would be unbelievable! Just me and the remasters.....and lots of beer. I next need to burn these onto blank c.d.'s so I can take them in my car. No way do I take these wonderfully packaged remasters in the car.
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Post by Cosmos on Sept 17, 2009 15:23:25 GMT -5
[quote author=jsd board=cds2 thread=1310 post=13444 time=1253163419 Good advice, R66! I need to have the house to myself for a wekend, that would be unbelievable! Just me and the remasters.....and lots of beer. I next need to burn these onto blank c.d.'s so I can take them in my car. No way do I take these wonderfully packaged remasters in the car. [/quote] To ALL Whom It May Concern; At the risk of being obvious; Bose makes a killer set of headphones also. The non-"noise-cancelling" variety is every bit as good as the other, and are pretty darn reasonable in comparison. MANY problems have been solved by such an investment. As an added bonus feature, they will also plug in to most modern T.V.'s in order to alleviate another whole set of potential problems. Just make sure if you have Bose equipment, to TURN OFF THE EQUALIZER for your Bose speakers when you listen to the headphones, as they are not compatible! These will allow you to "crank it up" at any hour of the day and still experience top-notch sound quality, for a relatively minimal dollar investment to your current sound system. Cosmos
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 17, 2009 18:12:13 GMT -5
My MONO box set arrived today. Excellent Packaging!! Love the way these discs are presented!! But the price tag --- whoa.
Anyway ... I just played MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR.. Blah. I'll take the STEREO version of MMT in just about every way.
The only two things which really leapt out at me were in BLUE JAY WAY and ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE. In BJW, some of the background sounds were missing. Not for me - I'll take the Stereo version with all the sounds intact.
As for ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, I was rather impressed with the MONO version. What stood out to me was the background singing and how loud it was, even above & during George's guitar solo! I always thought they were singing "Love, Love, Love" all the time ... but now it was sometimes more clearly than ever before: "LOO--OOO--OOVE". I really liked this.
Did anyone else notice that the STEREO version of I AM THE WALRUS had those extra few notes at the intro? The one on the MONO version is the intro we're more used to.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 17, 2009 18:15:49 GMT -5
Thanks Cosmos.
I have the pretty decent Grado SR80 headphones but I don't want the constraints of cords when experiencing remastered Beatles!
If I want to expand my "Mumbo Stomp" to the remasters, I don't want to stomp only within four feet of my receiver: I want to roam through the room, the house and maybe even the yard if I have the music cranked. I can't dance aound a fire with headphones on with a four foot cord!
When I am mellow I'll use the 'phones.
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 17, 2009 18:48:49 GMT -5
My MONO box set arrived today. Excellent Packaging!! Love the way these discs are presented!! But the price tag --- whoa. Anyway ... I just played MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR.. Blah. I'll take the STEREO version of MMT in just about every way. The only two things which really leapt out at me were in BLUE JAY WAY and ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE. In BJW, some of the background sounds were missing. Not for me - I'll take the Stereo version with all the sounds intact. As for ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, I was rather impressed with the MONO version. What stood out to me was the background singing and how loud it was, even above & during George's guitar solo! I always thought they were singing "Love, Love, Love" ... but now it was loudly and more clearly than ever before: "LOO--OOO--OOVE". I really liked this. Did anyone else notice that the STEREO version of I AM THE WALRUS had those extra few notes at the intro? The one on the MONO version is the intro we're more used to. Glad you received your mono box! It's probably the most interesting set. For many it's new and revelatory. Also, one of the nicest surprises are the mono mixes from the unreleased YS EP scheduled for early '69, on the Mono Masters set. Give 'em a listen soon: Only A Northern Song It's All Too Much Across the Universe Hey Bulldog All Together Now It's All All To Much is one of the nicest surprises. Different texture and more densely psychedelic than the stereo mix. It now rates up there with the best of John's psychedelic work, such as A Day In the Life, I Am The Walrus, Strawberry Fields Forever. This track deserves to have a resurgence! Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by sayne on Sept 17, 2009 19:54:37 GMT -5
What would happen if the mono and stereo masters were mixed together? Would it be killer to have left track, right track, and the mono filling the scope of the left to center to right pan or would it just be garbage or would there be no noticeable differences compared to the mono and/or stereo versions, respectively. Just curious, for I'm no audiophile.
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