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Post by joshferrell on Jul 5, 2014 0:34:30 GMT -5
had Lennon had lived I was thinking it would have been at least 1984 before they got back together,,, we know that they were going to reunite for the "long and winding road" special that became "anthology",, so assuming it took a good 2 or 3 years or so, after John and Yoko's 1981 tour etc...here's how I picture the album to be like..
The Beatles -"Long and winding road" Produced by George Martin side A 1.Here we go again (Lennon/McCartney)- This would have made the perfect album opener. 2.Take it away (Lennon/McCartney)- A song that ended up being produced by George Martin anyways as a McCartney solo song. 3.Circles (Harrison)- A "Beatles" era song that ended up on "Gone Troppo" 4. Strawberry fields forever (Lennon/McCartney)-the remake Lennon said he wanted to do. 5. Real Love (Lennon/Mcartney/Harrison/Starkey)-Brand new song 6.Pipes of Peace (Lennon/McCartney)-Same as "Take it away" 7.Nobody Told me- (Lennon/McCartney) -sung by Ringo, outtake from his 1981 album sessions that produced "Life begins at 40" released as a solo single in 81.
Side B. 1. Free as a bird (Lennon/McCartney/Harrison/Starkey) 2.Yesterday (Lennon/McCartney)-Give my regards version 3.Wrack My Brain (Harrison) -Sung by Ringo and George 4.So Bad (Lennon/McCartney) -see notes for "Take it away" and "Pipes of peace." 5.Back off boogaloo (Starkey) 6.Private Property (McCartney) 7.Mystical One (Harrison)
Side C 1.India (Lennon/McCartney) 2. Now and then (Lennon/McCartney) 3.Flying Hour (Harrison) 4.Dear John (Lennon/McCartney) 5.Dream Away )Harrison) 6.Good day sunshine (Lennon/McCartney) -Give my regards version 7.Here.there and Everywhere (Lennon/McCartney) Give my regards Version
Side D. 1. I'm steppin' out (Lennon/McCartney) 2.I don't want to face it (Lennon/McCartney) 3.Borrowed time (Lennon/McCartney) 4.Dehra Dun (Harrison) 5. No more lonely nights (Lennon/McCartney) 6. The Long and winding road (Lennon/McCartney) - Give my regards version 7. George Martin Beatles Orchestra medley (Lennon/McCartney ,Harrison, Starkey)-Penny lane, While my guitar gently weeps, Yellow Submarine, Hey Jude, let it be, octopus' garden and Long and winding road
the end......................................................................
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Post by joshferrell on Jul 15, 2014 11:14:51 GMT -5
no thoughts on this by anyone? interesting...
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Post by Snookeroo on Aug 10, 2014 21:03:17 GMT -5
FOUR SIDES? I think they'd have killed each other before making it through all that.
Best chance would have been "Live Aid" in '85 in my opinion. Just a nice set of Beatle tunes for a good cause - then, back to their own lives.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 3:24:36 GMT -5
If they were able to get back together at the time you nominated, i believe most of the songs you nominated wouldn't have been on the album, they would have written another batch of songs
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 11, 2014 9:01:25 GMT -5
FOUR SIDES? I think they'd have killed each other before making it through all that. Best chance would have been "Live Aid" in '85 in my opinion. Just a nice set of Beatle tunes for a good cause - then, back to their own lives. I absolutely agree with Snookeroo that if John was alive, Live Aid would have seen a four or five song set Beatles reunion. It would have been awesome but then, as Snooks posits, they are done and back on their four merry ways except for the incidental Anthology music even John testified about in a final deposition. That would have put the ! on our Beatles' fanships but of course we were robbed of all of that by John's murder.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 11, 2014 13:58:13 GMT -5
I don't think a reunion would have occurred until 1984-85 at the earliest, too ... but I think we arrive at this conclusion by looking at where Paul, George, and Ringo were at during these years. All three were pretty uncommitted to anything exclusive around the time of LIVE AID in Summer '85...
- but the thing is, we have no idea what state of mind John Lennon would have been in, had he lived in 1985. Since he died in 1980 it's natural to think of him as being open and free.... but he and Yoko could have been still touring at that time, perhaps in support of a DOUBLE FANTASY PART II, or other such albums/projects. There is a chance that John would still have been so involved in his own thing with Yoko and "leaving The Beatles in High School", that he would have been unavailable.
Finally, there is the matter nobody really wants to address: that The four ex-Beatles felt they had ended things nicely, and they did not want to risk possibly not living up to their impossible expectations. I don't think the four of them would ever have wanted to chance that -- and personally, I think it was a very wise move.
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Post by stavros on Aug 11, 2014 16:54:06 GMT -5
Paul and Ringo were heavily involved in the critical disaster of the movie that was Give My Regards to Broad Street just prior to Live Aid. It was in parts a nostalgic trip down Beatle Avenue, probably prompted in part by the tragic events of December 1980. If it had been marketed as a "long form" pop video then perhaps it would have been seen more favourably by the media? Try watching it now with that frame of mind and the music is decent quality all the way through. Would Macca and Ringo have even been considering such a project had John been alive though? We will never know of course but I really couldn't see a reformed Beatles re-recording their own 1960s songs, and as solo artists from a few years before? McCartney was in a certain place in 1984 and a lot of it was probably due to the loss of his long time song writing partner forever. I do think if the Beatles had reformed to make a new album it would have been all new songs and limited to 14 tracks.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 12, 2014 7:10:10 GMT -5
LIVE AID was in July 1985, and the release of BROAD STREET had been way back in October 1984. (And Paul and Ringo filmed it long before that). I still find BROAD STREET very dark, gray, and depressing. My favorite parts are the jam where they do "Not Such A Bad Boy", "No Values" and "So Bad", with RIngo on drums... and I also like the early scene with the medley in the studio (although even THAT is tarnished when the manager mourns: "Very Bloody Appropriate" in the middle of Paul singing "Yesterday"). I cringe when I watch the "Silly Love Songs" sequence with Paul and Linda in silly makeups while a breakdancer bops around ( !!). .. But nothing bores me more than the "Eleanor's Dream" sequence that pads out some running time and never seems to end! Was this the original question being asked (?). I don't think the four Beatles would have been re-recording their 60s classics either... but I interpreted the question of the thread as just about the Beatles reuniting in some form around 1984-1985? (Not necessarily doing a similar Broad Street arrangement)..
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Post by stavros on Aug 12, 2014 14:06:00 GMT -5
I was not too impressed by Broad Street when it first aired on TV in fact I was not really listening to Beatles and solo Beatle output at that moment in my life. But now I take it as one long pop video. I agree with you on Silly Love Songs video but do like McCartney's version of Eleanor Rigby (perhaps it is a little too long). I thought Ballroom Dancing was a better version than the original and particularly liked "No Values" which sounded like it belonged on Back to the Egg. Maybe I lost the point? Josh did post what he thought would be a "re-union album" in his original post and that's what I was referring to.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 12, 2014 14:58:28 GMT -5
Taste is funny. My favorite part of Broadstreet is that long, "Eleanor Rigby" sequence where Paul is back in "Jack The Ripper" London and then the picnic scene with Ringo, Linda and Barbara and finally the cemetery scene with Angel Linda and the White Horse. The warehouse rehearsal scene is cool too with good music.
Yeah, I hate the "Silly Love Songs" scene and any scene with Paul driving that stupid, lame hot rod, especially when they sped up the fake scenery going by.
Okay, Sunday night I watched installment one of The Hobbit and I swear, the guy who plays Bilbo Baggins makes the identical facial expressions during his "Aw gee, I'm just a hobbit not a warrior" lines(after the Eagles rescue them) as the guy who plays Harry does after Paul rescues him from being locked in the railroad platform's storage shed!!
You may need to compare the two performances but I think the Hobbit dude owes a big thank you to the Harry dude from Broadstreet as to playing kind of a bumbler who gets himself into mighty fixes!
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Post by joshferrell on Aug 13, 2014 1:26:44 GMT -5
I was not too impressed by Broad Street when it first aired on TV in fact I was not really listening to Beatles and solo Beatle output at that moment in my life. But now I take it as one long pop video. I agree with you on Silly Love Songs video but do like McCartney's version of Eleanor Rigby (perhaps it is a little too long). I thought Ballroom Dancing was a better version than the original and particularly liked "No Values" which sounded like it belonged on Back to the Egg. Maybe I lost the point? Josh did post what he thought would be a "re-union album" in his original post and that's what I was referring to. yes I posted about a re-union album but I was also under the impression that they would have to do music for the "long and winding road" documentary hence why I said something about remakes of some of their songs, as well as new ones.. I'm not sure if they would have remade some of them but at the same time since the documentary is supposed to be an overall story of their career I can picture them remaking some of the songs, after all Paul re-recorded some of the songs for Broadstreet and John had mentioned somewhere that he wanted to re-record Strawberry fields at some point..so I guess it can go either way,or maybe there would have been two albums, one specifically a soundtrack to the documentary and another with brand new songs..
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Post by stavros on Aug 15, 2014 17:37:50 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying that. Sadly we will never know how a new version of Strawberry Fields Forever would have sounded. I guess it sounded a bit too weird for 1967 at the time. But by the mid-1980s who knows?
Candy Flip made a hit out of it in the UK in the 1990s borrowing somewhat from the Police's "Wrapped Around Your Finger" for the video.
It's a long time since I listened to this version and I doubt John would have remade it this way.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 15, 2014 18:38:21 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying that. Sadly we will never know how a new version of Strawberry Fields Forever would have sounded. I guess it sounded a bit too weird for 1967 at the time. But by the mid-1980s who knows? Candy Flip made a hit out of it in the UK in the 1990s borrowing somewhat from the Police's "Wrapped Around Your Finger" for the video. It's a long time since I listened to this version and I doubt John would have remade it this way. I have this dubbed from a cassette a buddy of mine made for me of Beale cover songs. It's funny, my 'dubbed from cassette' songs all sound a little slow and dragging. It works with this song, though. It makes it sound more like the original and not as bright and poppy.
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