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Post by stavros on Aug 28, 2016 16:30:02 GMT -5
And then the Candlestick burned out. The Beatles created 'stadium' rock but were unable to 'create' anything like a decent rock sound in the stadiums. Mainly due to the undeveloped sound systems available. It's Beatles Bank Holiday Weekend (or just Beatleweek) on Merseyside so to 'celebrate' here's a few factoids that have been hitting the headlines around the world recently. First here's the trailer to the Beatles "Eight Days a Week" movie. Next in the Liverpool Echo there's a piece about a rare (single copy) Beatles recording made for Cilla Black called "It's For You" selling for £18,000. Beatles fan buys long-lost demo for £18,000Also Paul and Ringo have both talked about the decision to stop touring in 1966. Wherever you are in the world I hope you too will celebrate our Beatleweek by raising a glass, opening a bottle or enjoying a nice cup of tea and of course listening to a bit of Beatles music.
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Post by lowbasso on Aug 28, 2016 16:50:05 GMT -5
And then the Candlestick burned out. The Beatles created 'stadium' rock but were unable to 'create' anything like a decent rock sound in the stadiums. Mainly due to the undeveloped sound systems available. It's Beatles Bank Holiday Weekend (or just Beatleweek) on Merseyside so to 'celebrate' here's a few factoids that have been hitting the headlines around the world recently. First here's the trailer to the Beatles "Eight Days a Week" movie. Next in the Liverpool Echo there's a piece about a rare (single copy) Beatles recording made for Cilla Black called "It's For You" selling for £18,000. Beatles fan buys long-lost demo for £18,000Also Paul and Ringo have both talked about the decision to stop touring in 1966. Wherever you are in the world I hope you too will celebrate our Beatleweek by raising a glass, opening a bottle or enjoying a nice cup of tea and of course listening to a bit of Beatles music. Seems like a few months ago we celebrated the 50th Anniversary of first The Ed Sullivan Show they were on. How very brief in time was the period of 30 months between their first US appearance and their last.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 28, 2016 17:18:45 GMT -5
Cilla: "You have a song for me. What's it called?"
"It's For You!"
"Yes, thank you, but what's it called?"
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 28, 2016 19:00:17 GMT -5
CBS Money Watch which came on right after the 60 Minutes intro, covered the Beatles' demo sale. There was no mention of what it was, just how much it sold for ($23,000).
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Post by Panther on Aug 28, 2016 19:44:23 GMT -5
I'm afraid these Grandpa Paul and Ringo quotes are gonna be cringe-worthy...
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 29, 2016 13:07:40 GMT -5
I will hoist a stein of beer in honor of 50 years since Candlestick Park and the end of Beatles concerts proper. To me it is a sad affair, the start of the death of The Beatles as a band.
I am one who greatly regrets that The Beatles stopped truly live performances after Candlestick with the exception of the Rooftop performance. Maybe not tours but proper concerts even if sporadic to an actual audience of normal fans.
Performing live is a key element in being a great Rock and Roll Band or a great Rock and Roll Artist and The Beatles self-yielded this aspect to many other bands/artists by deliberate default.
The Beatles were very good live up through and including 1964 and had some great live performances in 1965. If they weren't great live by 1966 it is because they did not try to be great not that they could not have been great if they put some effort into it(such as simply rehearsing) and choosing a more challenging setlist. The Rooftop is damn good but rather short in terms of the setlist and it was kind of a novelty, filmed on a rooftop with very little true audience who could actually see it.
With George getting back into guitar by 1968 and sound systems for Rock bands coming out of the Stone Age finally, The Beatles could have been exceedingly good live as they started getting back to Rock and Roll in 1968! It is a crime in my opinion that all we have then is the Rooftop(and we don't have that in a great format yet) and three semi-live promo appearances.
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Post by stavros on Aug 29, 2016 15:40:16 GMT -5
I'm afraid these Grandpa Paul and Ringo quotes are gonna be cringe-worthy... Ha! You might be right. We'll see hey? Although I am looking forward to seeing the archive footage.
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Post by stavros on Aug 29, 2016 16:38:43 GMT -5
I will hoist a stein of beer in honor of 50 years since Candlestick Park and the end of Beatles concerts proper. To me it is a sad affair, the start of the death of The Beatles as a band. I am one who greatly regrets that The Beatles stopped truly live performances after Candlestick with the exception of the Rooftop performance. Maybe not tours but proper concerts even if sporadic to an actual audience of normal fans. Performing live is a key element in being a great Rock and Roll Band or a great Rock and Roll Artist and The Beatles self-yielded this aspect to many other bands/artists by deliberate default. The Beatles were very good live up through and including 1964 and had some great live performances in 1965. If they weren't great live by 1966 it is because they did not try to be great not that they could not have been great if they put some effort into it(such as simply rehearsing) and choosing a more challenging setlist. The Rooftop is damn good but rather short in terms of the setlist and it was kind of a novelty, filmed on a rooftop with very little true audience who could actually see it. With George getting back into guitar by 1968 and sound systems for Rock bands coming out of the Stone Age finally, The Beatles could have been exceedingly good live as they started getting back to Rock and Roll in 1968! It is a crime in my opinion that all we have then is the Rooftop(and we don't have that in a great format yet) and three semi-live promo appearances. I am hoping Ron Howard's film throws new light (and obviously sound) on what the Beatles were like live. I've only ever seen video clips and some are better than others. But I tend to agree with your view. To me the rooftop concert proves they still had that magic and could have pulled of a show or two had they hung around together. I think the Beatles were still in shock from how the fallout from John's "..more popular than Christ" comments had affected their tour of bible belt America and the truly scary moments in the Philippines. Plus their music had matured to a level where certain songs could not be recreated on stage with mid-1960s technology. Giles Martin says : Giles is possibly correct. Although I don't know. I think they just needed a break and those new songs would have flowed naturally once they got it together again. Once they stopped touring it all becomes a case of what ifs. What if the "Magical Mystery Tour" had simply been a showcase of the Beatles songs. What if Brian hadn't died? What if Paul hadn't hauled everyone back to make the 'Let it Be' movie and album so soon after working on the White Album? What if the Beatles had all simply taken a break to pursue solo work in 1970? What if John hadn't gone to live in America? I'd have loved to have seen a full Beatles concert with them playing some of those late period classics and some of those solo songs might have become Beatle tracks too. Paul's post 1990 tours have given a glimpse to what they might have been like. But he doesn't really play any John Lennon or George Harrison songs (or not many) or claims them as his own! And Paul and his band is not the Beatles. Oh well we can't change history. But we can imagine..... even if that means imagining Paul really was dead and some right hander replaced him. I think I preferred the guys doing Pure McCartney but still.....
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Post by nine on Aug 30, 2016 0:39:39 GMT -5
Giles is possibly correct. Although I don't know. I think they just needed a break and those new songs would have flowed naturally once they got it together again. Once they stopped touring it all becomes a case of what ifs. What if the "Magical Mystery Tour" had simply been a showcase of the Beatles songs. What if Brian hadn't died? What if Paul hadn't hauled everyone back to make the 'Let it Be' movie and album so soon after working on the White Album? What if the Beatles had all simply taken a break to pursue solo work in 1970? What if John hadn't gone to live in America? I'd have loved to have seen a full Beatles concert with them playing some of those late period classics and some of those solo songs might have become Beatle tracks too. Paul's post 1990 tours have given a glimpse to what they might have been like. But he doesn't really play any John Lennon or George Harrison songs (or not many) or claims them as his own! And Paul and his band is not the Beatles. Some more what ifs... Yoko, Klein, George (allowed more songs), Lennon (not on heroin).... It was interesting to hear Giles mention that the recording of Come Together was pretty much a live track. So was Yer Blues from what I've read. The late 60s/early 70s Beatles would have made a great post moptop band....
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Post by cosmo on Aug 31, 2016 12:18:25 GMT -5
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