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Post by sayne on Apr 27, 2009 20:06:14 GMT -5
In that nice little video that's been posted showing George looking at some old footage of the Beatles singing This Boy, George belts out a pretty good laugh when Paul comes on the screen. What do you think made him laugh?
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 28, 2009 11:56:49 GMT -5
Probably Paul's innocent-looking baby-face as he looks for approval. Given George & Paul's relationship in 1976 (when they were all suing each other) that meek look by Paul on the tape would have that effect on George, don't you think?
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 28, 2009 14:13:13 GMT -5
And real quickly, as the camera goes from George to Paul, Paul makes a strange face, kind of rolls his eyes. In fairness, George laughs at the close-up of himself but he does bust a gut when the camera goes to Paul.
Maybe someone in that room said something about Paul?
I was more interested in George's reaction to John's close-up and George comments that it is a good song and talks about John going on stage blind without his glasses. In 1976 George may have still been smarting a little from John not playing on his final 1974 tour shows in NYC although I don't think "I Me Mine" was out yet which really ticked John off.
I think that John and George were never the same with each other after George declined Yoko's offer to participate at the Concert For Bangladesh.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Apr 28, 2009 15:11:31 GMT -5
I think you guys are reading too much into this. I think George's smile was genuine affection.
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Post by beatleroadie on Apr 28, 2009 15:44:58 GMT -5
Can someone post a link to this video? thanks!
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Post by winstonoboogie on Apr 28, 2009 18:50:16 GMT -5
I think you guys are reading too much into this. I think George's smile was genuine affection. Me, too, or not unlike looking at one's high school graduation picture and saying, "Was that me?"
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Post by vectisfabber on Apr 29, 2009 6:25:01 GMT -5
Not sure about the timing, but Paul's big sheep eyes head rolling in the This Boy clip reminded me greatly of how well Eric Idle took him off in the original Rutles film, especially during A Girl Like You. Possibly that occurred to George.
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Post by sayne on Apr 29, 2009 7:36:31 GMT -5
I'm not sure who said it, I think Ringo, but someone ssid that the Beatles were the only 4 people who did not "see" the Beatles. Watching George's reaction to the clip demonstrates this in a manner. There are/were probably tons of clips that they never saw. We've seen them, but they didn't - even though they were in them.
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Post by enockss on Apr 29, 2009 10:10:17 GMT -5
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Post by beatleroadie on Apr 29, 2009 15:30:49 GMT -5
Thanks enockss...cool footage!
I agree. I think George is just laughing at some of the looks they are giving, and enjoying watching the old footage (maybe for the first time). Paul does do a funny look at the camera-look away-then back again thing...
Anyone know what that was filmed for or anything?
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Post by scousette on Apr 29, 2009 18:25:30 GMT -5
Very cool footage. George is just having fun watching the film.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 6, 2009 23:38:48 GMT -5
I think you guys are reading too much into this. I think George's smile was genuine affection. No one has suggested a freaking conspiracy here. But something triggered George to bust a gut laughing like he did. Only morons break out laughing hysterically for no reason. I still say it is the goofy face Paul makes but I am not saying that it is a bad thing that he does it! As I noted above, George first smiles and chuckles at his own image but really cracks up when the camera focuses on Paul.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on May 7, 2009 1:08:03 GMT -5
I think you guys are reading too much into this. I think George's smile was genuine affection. No one has suggested a freaking conspiracy here. But something triggered George to bust a gut laughing like he did. Only morons break out laughing hysterically for no reason. I still say it is the goofy face Paul makes but I am not saying that it is a bad thing that he does it! As I noted above, George first smiles and chuckles at his own image but really cracks up when the camera focuses on Paul. The tone of the messages seemed to take George's smile quite seriously, if I can say it like that. It was being overanalyzed.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 7, 2009 5:57:34 GMT -5
No one has suggested a freaking conspiracy here. But something triggered George to bust a gut laughing like he did. Only morons break out laughing hysterically for no reason. I still say it is the goofy face Paul makes but I am not saying that it is a bad thing that he does it! As I noted above, George first smiles and chuckles at his own image but really cracks up when the camera focuses on Paul. The tone of the messages seemed to take George's smile quite seriously, if I can say it like that. It was being overanalyzed. I agree, Steve. This kind of over-analysis occurs a lot, and often by our own JSD (sorry, Huck!). I mean, his kind of response does sound like "conspiracy thinking": "Maybe someone in that room said something about Paul?
In 1976 George may have still been smarting a little from John not playing on his final 1974 tour shows in NYC although I don't think "I Me Mine" was out yet which really ticked John off.
I think that John and George were never the same with each other after George declined Yoko's offer to participate at the Concert For Bangladesh."and also, from Lowbasso: "Given George & Paul's relationship in 1976 (when they were all suing each other) that meek look by Paul on the tape would have that effect on George, don't you think?"So you see, people do often come up with all sorts of over-analysis and - for lack of a better term at the moment - "secret motives" .
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Post by John S. Damm on May 7, 2009 13:20:58 GMT -5
The tone of the messages seemed to take George's smile quite seriously, if I can say it like that. It was being overanalyzed. I agree, Steve. This kind of over-analysis occurs a lot, and often by our own JSD (sorry, Huck!). I mean, his kind of response does sound like "conspiracy thinking": "Maybe someone in that room said something about Paul?
In 1976 George may have still been smarting a little from John not playing on his final 1974 tour shows in NYC although I don't think "I Me Mine" was out yet which really ticked John off.
I think that John and George were never the same with each other after George declined Yoko's offer to participate at the Concert For Bangladesh."and also, from Lowbasso: "Given George & Paul's relationship in 1976 (when they were all suing each other) that meek look by Paul on the tape would have that effect on George, don't you think?"So you see, people do often come up with all sorts of over-analysis and - for lack of a better term at the moment - "secret motives" . If we don't want thoughts or discussion anymore that is fine. I misunderstood sayne. I thought that he was inviting opinions and thoughts and not just sharing a neat video for its sake alone.
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Post by wooltonian on May 7, 2009 14:41:47 GMT -5
Why did George laugh? Was it Something in the way he smiled? Ahhh well - it sounded funny in my head.
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Post by sayne on May 7, 2009 15:38:53 GMT -5
. . . I misunderstood sayne. . . You didn't.
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Post by theman on May 7, 2009 18:49:25 GMT -5
I think it's fair to wonder why George broke into laughter at the site of Paul. For the most part George has an understated smile while watching the rest of the video, so it seems pretty clear that his reaction to Paul is a bit peculiar. That said, I really think he laughed at the site of Paul overly easest, Dirk McQuicly facial expression. In hindsite, it is funny!
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Post by John S. Damm on May 7, 2009 21:04:16 GMT -5
I think it's fair to wonder why George broke into laughter at the site of Paul. For the most part George has an understated smile while watching the rest of the video, so it seems pretty clear that his reaction to Paul is a bit peculiar. That said, I really think he laughed at the site of Paul overly easest, Dirk McQuicly facial expression. In hindsite, it is funny! That was well said! I agree with that and that doesn't mean George hated Paul or anything. Paul does do a funny face.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 8, 2009 5:38:12 GMT -5
I agree, Steve. This kind of over-analysis occurs a lot, and often by our own JSD (sorry, Huck!). I mean, his kind of response does sound like "conspiracy thinking": "Maybe someone in that room said something about Paul?
In 1976 George may have still been smarting a little from John not playing on his final 1974 tour shows in NYC although I don't think "I Me Mine" was out yet which really ticked John off.
I think that John and George were never the same with each other after George declined Yoko's offer to participate at the Concert For Bangladesh."and also, from Lowbasso: "Given George & Paul's relationship in 1976 (when they were all suing each other) that meek look by Paul on the tape would have that effect on George, don't you think?"So you see, people do often come up with all sorts of over-analysis and - for lack of a better term at the moment - "secret motives" . If we don't want thoughts or discussion anymore that is fine. I misunderstood sayne. I thought that he was inviting opinions and thoughts and not just sharing a neat video for its sake alone. This, too, is over-analysis though.... I never said 'no discussions or opinions', nor did I mean to imply it. That is reading something else into it. But yes, sayne did ask for opinions, this is true. He was probably laughing because Paul made the typical silly McCartney face, but I don't think there was anything "personal" cooked up behind it.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 8, 2009 8:01:17 GMT -5
If we don't want thoughts or discussion anymore that is fine. I misunderstood sayne. I thought that he was inviting opinions and thoughts and not just sharing a neat video for its sake alone. ........But yes, sayne did ask for opinions, this is true. He was probably laughing because Paul made the typical silly McCartney face, but I don't think there was anything "personal" cooked up behind it. Then we agree on that point. I suppose that George's hearty laugh could contain some sarcasm in it towards Paul. I still have on a cheap cassette the interview* George gave to WLS in Chicago in the Fall of 1976 to plug 33 1/3 and he is in good humor throughout although he does get serious at one point and says that it would be silly for any one of the ex-Fabs to try and do more or be more than The Beatles. Hmm. Who was that aimed at? John was baking bread and watching the wheels go 'round. Ringo's musical ascent was over and he was in the start of serious decline and George was just sticking his big toe back into the water with 33 1/3 which was much better than the last two offerings from him. Oh yeah, Paul had just done a world tour and was on top of the world! George's laugh in sayne's video could contain a little smirking in it like, "There Paul goes again." Maybe we don't totally agree! * I have subsequently wondered if George was really giving an interview to WLS or was this one of those canned jobs like The Beatles cleverly did(or Capitol did) when they first came to the U.S.? You know, where there is silent spots for the DJ in our hometowns to speak the pre-written question? WLS was huge in the 1960's and 1970's though.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 8, 2009 16:03:19 GMT -5
I still have on a cheap cassette the interview* George gave to WLS in Chicago in the Fall of 1976 to plug 33 1/3 and he is in good humor throughout although he does get serious at one point and says that it would be silly for any one of the ex-Fabs to try and do more or be more than The Beatles. Hmm. Who was that aimed at? John was baking bread and watching the wheels go 'round. Ringo's musical ascent was over and he was in the start of serious decline and George was just sticking his big toe back into the water with 33 1/3 which was much better than the last two offerings from him. Oh yeah, Paul had just done a world tour and was on top of the world! Y'see though, for me even this line doesn't seem that it's necessarily "aimed" at any one of the ex-Beatles. I'd have to hear the rest of the interview in full context leading up to it, but it sounds to me like a generic statement... that none of them can really be more than The Beatles. I'm sure even Paul, for all Wings' success, didn't think it was as big or bigger than the Fabs. It could be a smirk. I think the whole thing was generally good natured and fond, is all.
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