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Post by nine on May 8, 2009 1:24:07 GMT -5
I am not happy with the new George best of... 1. It should be a double disc. 2. Many of the tracks double up with either Best Of GH or Best Of Dark Horse. 3. Finally I reckon these tracks should have been contenders... I'd Have You Anytime Wah Wah If Not For You Behind That Locked Door Let It Down Beware Of Darkness Apple Scruffs I Live For You Ding Dong This Guitar True Love This Song Soft Hearted Hannah Faster Teardrops Devil's Radio Fish On The Sand Devil And The Deep Blue Sea Stuck Inside A Cloud 9 PS - I know Got My Mind Set On You sold heaps of records but does it have to be on there!!!!! ? Marwa Blues won a Grammy didn't it? I guess that's why that's included in the new collection.... As for The Rising Son... well, it ain't that great. I can think of a lot better material than that. Didn't Dhani co-write hits?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 8, 2009 5:28:12 GMT -5
PS - I know Got My Mind Set On You sold heaps of records but does it have to be on there!!!!! ? Of course. It was not only #1, but it's the last #1 single by any of the former Beatles. And it's a decent, popular song that actually gets some airplay here and there and which people are familiar with still.
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Post by mikev on May 8, 2009 6:51:55 GMT -5
I always felt Horse on the Water didn't get its fair due. I know Jools didn't want to capitalize on it, but it is a solid tune.
Here Comes the Moon is a pretty good album cut.
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Post by beatleroadie on May 8, 2009 16:17:01 GMT -5
If Not for You (dylan duet), Wah-Wah (either studio or CFB, bother are rad), Stuck Inside a Cloud, Photograph (demo/guide vocal) would have all been cool.
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Post by wiseblood on May 8, 2009 17:07:38 GMT -5
Fact of the matter remains that people don't buy music like they used to. The powers that be are well aware of the fact that these songs are available in other places so why go through the effort of putting together 2 discs and take an even bigger hit than what they are already set up to take with this single disc?
This is just a money grab/contractual thing and if any of you actually buy it, I will be very surprised.
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Post by gripweed on May 8, 2009 20:40:21 GMT -5
I know Got My Mind Set On You sold heaps of records but does it have to be on there!!!!! ? Marwa Blues won a Grammy didn't it? I guess that's why that's included in the new collection.... As for The Rising Son... well, it ain't that great. I can think of a lot better material than that. Didn't Dhani co-write hits? I remember "Got My Mind Set on You" getting heavy airplay on MTV but I can't figure out for the life of me why that was such a big hit. George wrote better songs than this cover. Only thing I can figure is that MTV exposed a whole generation to a Beatle and that was enough.
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Post by winstonoboogie on May 9, 2009 18:55:27 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding flip, does anyone like the lineup? Also, is anyone (beyond the completists) going to buy the CD? I haven't heard one positive comment either here or on the Examiner pages! Not being disrespectful to George or his memory or anything....
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Post by mikev on May 9, 2009 20:51:48 GMT -5
I know Got My Mind Set On You sold heaps of records but does it have to be on there!!!!! ? Marwa Blues won a Grammy didn't it? I guess that's why that's included in the new collection.... As for The Rising Son... well, it ain't that great. I can think of a lot better material than that. Didn't Dhani co-write hits? I remember "Got My Mind Set on You" getting heavy airplay on MTV but I can't figure out for the life of me why that was such a big hit. George wrote better songs than this cover. Only thing I can figure is that MTV exposed a whole generation to a Beatle and that was enough. I think MTV helped it along. Not my favorite Harrysong (and a cover to boot), and joins Coming Up in my least favorite no. 1 solos.
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Post by jimc on May 9, 2009 21:47:47 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding flip, does anyone like the lineup? Also, is anyone (beyond the completists) going to buy the CD? I haven't heard one positive comment either here or on the Examiner pages! Not being disrespectful to George or his memory or anything.... Just realized...isn't it interesting that neither of the non-remastered albums -- Dark Horse and Extra Texture -- are represented with a single track on this disc? Of course, there aren't a lot of contenders, but surely "You," "Dark Horse," "This Guitar," or "Ding Dong" might have made the cut? Then again, there's nothing from 33 1/3. I don't think we're being unreasonable. We're only going to be satisfied by a boxed set/rarities collection -- long overdue. This set, I can't imagine anyone buying other than completists. And that would be me -- cheap, I hope. And I can stop looking for Porky's Revenge. Thanks for adding that one track, Dhani, or whoever. It truly is a cynical addition -- why this and not "Crackerbox Palace" or "You"? Because we have been thrown $15 bone. I know, none are being forced to buy it. I'll look for it used.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 10, 2009 5:32:32 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding flip, does anyone like the lineup? Also, is anyone (beyond the completists) going to buy the CD? That's a good question. I USED to be a diehard completist for all things "Beatle" related, but now that I'm in my late 40s I just don't feel I need everything. In the case of Ringo's PHOTOGRAPH - THE VERY BEST OF RINGO, there was nothing on that CD that I didn't already have except for the expendable Act Naturally duet with Buck Owens... yet I thought it was an exceptional collection, and it would be nice to have all these songs together in one package to play everything all together once in awhile, so I was eager to buy it. And though it's not the deciding factor, I really liked the cover. Back to George's LET IT ROLL --- yes, I'll probably buy it. But that's only because of the song I Don't Want To Do It, which I only have on the vinyl LP of PORKY'S REVENGE. The lineup of songs here is so underwhelming that I would not buy it if not for that one extra song.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on May 10, 2009 8:18:00 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding flip, does anyone like the lineup? Also, is anyone (beyond the completists) going to buy the CD? I haven't heard one positive comment either here or on the Examiner pages! Not being disrespectful to George or his memory or anything.... Winston: I don't think anyone can fathom exactly what they were thinking when they came up with this. My only redeeming thought it is that they're hoping it get interest in George by people who don't have it now. But they could have used different tracks.
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Post by ChokingSmoker on May 12, 2009 12:38:52 GMT -5
I know Got My Mind Set On You sold heaps of records but does it have to be on there!!!!! ? Marwa Blues won a Grammy didn't it? I guess that's why that's included in the new collection.... As for The Rising Son... well, it ain't that great. I can think of a lot better material than that. Didn't Dhani co-write hits? I remember "Got My Mind Set on You" getting heavy airplay on MTV but I can't figure out for the life of me why that was such a big hit. George wrote better songs than this cover. Only thing I can figure is that MTV exposed a whole generation to a Beatle and that was enough. Because it was a super cool video. Here is an alternate video that I have just seen for the very first time. Man, I must be out of touch.
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Post by revolver66 on May 12, 2009 14:40:11 GMT -5
It is interesting to note that this is called Let It Roll:The Songs Of George Harrison and not the Best Of or Essential etc.. That being said it's great to get a New Remastered George Collection. However this is probably the last to be issued and it is far from what it could/should be!
Of course adding Live "Beatles" Tracks is a selling point but again to who(as many have stated)? Why not add Solo Live Harrison Tracks if you must? This should have been done as the definitive Best Of if indeed it is done with the Novice in mind. If it is for the Hardcores(which I agree is where most sales will be) then more rarities or at least different mixes(if available) should be here!
I think not including Dark Horse/You/This Song(which has never been included on a Comp)/Crackerbox Palace and a few of the other singles that were issued in hopes of a Hit by George is a Miss. I know the contention surrounding This Song but it actually was a minor hit and I like it.
Every LP should have a Track or Two selected to give a full over-view. As Joe stated the Ringo collection was done so nice that even the hardcores that wanted to pass on it probably bought it.
Maybe there will be a Deluxe edition of this Comp so let's wait and see. As it stands it is a suprising if somewhat dissapointing Track Listing.
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Post by hobnailboots on May 12, 2009 17:10:26 GMT -5
Not including "Crackerbox Palace" is just unforgivable. What were they thinking?
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Post by Steve Marinucci on May 13, 2009 0:47:27 GMT -5
Not including "Crackerbox Palace" is just unforgivable. What were they thinking? You mean this?
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Post by hobnailboots on May 13, 2009 9:24:21 GMT -5
Not including "Crackerbox Palace" is just unforgivable. What were they thinking? You mean this? Ah yes, I love that video. Pure Python and damn, Olivia was hot in 1976! At any rate, "Crackerbox Palace" was the 1st non-Macca solo-fabs record I bought as a kid and to this day I consider it among George's top 3 solo songs. Why leave it off? Or "This Song"? They were BOTH hits (BIG radio hits where I was at least) and if there was ever a George video compilation DVD I can't IMAGINE them not being included. That said, I will buy this package probably. I (casually)know the guy who's writing the notes (Warren Zanes) and I'm very interested in his take on George's solo oeuvre.
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Post by Panther on May 13, 2009 12:46:34 GMT -5
Yes, it's an incredibly bad track selection, even for a 1-disc collection. Here are my reasons why it sucks testicles: -- Obvious and inexplicable ommissions: 'Crackerbox Palace' and anything from 1974 to 1980 -- Too many Bangladesh tracks, interring George in his Beatle-phase (the very thing he didn't want) -- Living in the Material World, an album that spent 5 weeks at #1, is represented by one song -- Opens with a cover song
Now, here's what it should be:
1. My Sweet Lord 2. This is Love 3. That's The Way It Goes 4. Awaiting On You All 5. Dark Horse 6. What Is Life 7. Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) 8. All Those Years Ago 9. Sue Me, Sue You Blues 10. Isn't It A Pity 11. Here Comes The Sun (live, Concert for Bangladesh) 12. Don't Let Me Wait Too Long 13. Got My Mind Set On You 14. Behind That Locked Door 15. You 16. Crackerbox Palace 17. Horse To The Water (w/Jools Holland) 18. When We Was Fab 19. Any Road 20. All Things Must Pass
This would (just) fit on an 80-minute CD. But that's far too good for the record companies to come up with. Luckily, we can all burn our own CDs!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 13, 2009 13:52:22 GMT -5
Now, here's what it should be: 1. My Sweet Lord 2. This is Love 3. That's The Way It Goes 4. Awaiting On You All 5. Dark Horse 6. What Is Life 7. Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) 8. All Those Years Ago 9. Sue Me, Sue You Blues 10. Isn't It A Pity 11. Here Comes The Sun (live, Concert for Bangladesh) 12. Don't Let Me Wait Too Long 13. Got My Mind Set On You 14. Behind That Locked Door 15. You 16. Crackerbox Palace 17. Horse To The Water (w/Jools Holland) 18. When We Was Fab 19. Any Road 20. All Things Must Pass MUCH better selection, panther! Only thing I'd want to do is add Blow Away, Teardrops, Bangladesh, I don't Want To Do It, This Song and This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying. To allow for these six I might find the most expendable six off your list to be: Here Comes the Sun (Live), Behind That Locked Door, Sue Me Sue You Blues, Don't Let Me Wait Too Long, You, and That's The Way It Goes
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Post by Panther on May 13, 2009 14:04:08 GMT -5
Fair enough, Joe. I did actually forget about "Bangladesh", but I'm not sure it's quite good enough, musically speaking. It's debatable.
There's a reason I didn't add "Blow Away" -- I've never heard it! But come to think of it, it was a popular tune. I'll have to check that...
The others you suggest are not exceptional tracks for me. I would want to include something from the first half of the 80s (besides 'All Those Years Ago', which isn't that great of a song, but was a big hit), so I like 'That's the Way it Goes' from Gone Troppo, which is a rather great track.
In any case, either of our preferences kicks ass on the wretched album that has been compiled officially.
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Post by cboxpalace on May 14, 2009 6:52:37 GMT -5
Like others, I don't care for the songs that were chosen either. I can't believe the song Dark Horse wasn't chosen. I think the 3 Beatle songs from The Concert for Bangla Desh should be removed, and replaced by Awaiting On You All, Wah Wah, and Bangla Desh. How the song Bangla Desh could be ignored is beyond me.
I also agree George has to many songs for 1 disc and this should've been a 2 disc CD.
I believe Got My Mind Set On You should be included because it was a hit and the last number 1 by a Beatle, and Marwa Blues (although I don't care for it) should be included because it won a Grammy. While I do like Rising Sun I don't think it's necessary.
A few other songs which should've been included You, This Guitar, Love Comes To Everyone, Faster, and something from Live In Japan. I can't believe 33 1/3 was completely overlooked. Crackerbox Palace and This Song...
I'll get the CD but the song lineup is disappointing.
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Post by revolver66 on May 15, 2009 11:45:22 GMT -5
Yes, it's an incredibly bad track selection, even for a 1-disc collection. Here are my reasons why it sucks testicles: -- Obvious and inexplicable ommissions: 'Crackerbox Palace' and anything from 1974 to 1980 -- Too many Bangladesh tracks, interring George in his Beatle-phase (the very thing he didn't want) -- Living in the Material World, an album that spent 5 weeks at #1, is represented by one song -- Opens with a cover song Now, here's what it should be: 1. My Sweet Lord 2. This is Love 3. That's The Way It Goes 4. Awaiting On You All 5. Dark Horse 6. What Is Life 7. Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth) 8. All Those Years Ago 9. Sue Me, Sue You Blues 10. Isn't It A Pity 11. Here Comes The Sun (live, Concert for Bangladesh) 12. Don't Let Me Wait Too Long 13. Got My Mind Set On You 14. Behind That Locked Door 15. You 16. Crackerbox Palace 17. Horse To The Water (w/Jools Holland) 18. When We Was Fab 19. Any Road 20. All Things Must Pass This would (just) fit on an 80-minute CD. But that's far too good for the record companies to come up with. Luckily, we can all burn our own CDs! Another Sue Another Sue Me Sue You Blues Fan!!! Yes..One of my favorites. I also love Living In The Material World..Good Selections for sure. It would have been nice if the powers that be actually polled fans like us as to what should be included. I mean the big hits are obvious(but not so with the Album Highlights).
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Post by mrjinks on May 20, 2009 16:11:56 GMT -5
I remember "Got My Mind Set on You" getting heavy airplay on MTV but I can't figure out for the life of me why that was such a big hit. George wrote better songs than this cover. Only thing I can figure is that MTV exposed a whole generation to a Beatle and that was enough. I recall this single's release pretty clearly, and I think the reason it did so well was because it appealed to such a broad demographic. George had been away so long - 5 years - that there was some built-up excitement just for that reason. But then the song seemed to "click" with all kinds of US radio station formats. It was catchy enough for "pop/top 40" stations to play (and play and play...). It wasn't too hard rocking, so the "adult contemporary" stations loved it, but it wasn't too soft, either, so "Rock" stations played it, too (and there weren't that many "hard rock" stations back then). "Classic rock" stations, which it seemed were just starting to emerge at this time, ate it up. I think that's why it was a #1. Within a couple of years, "classic rock" had figured out that their listeners don't want to hear NEW music by their favorites, they just want to hear the same old songs over and over again, so "My Brave Face" couldn't garner many spins. "Rock" stations started to play harder-edged material, "softer" stations got even softer, and so on. It's pretty rare for a song to light up the charts on multiple radio formats anymore, and I think that was what helped "Got My Mind" be such a smash. YMMV, of course...
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Post by jimc on May 20, 2009 22:55:47 GMT -5
Steve's Examiner column talks about his preview of Let It Roll. He notes that Giles Martin is said to have digitally remastered the tracks. So does this mean remastering beyond the reissues of this decade? I don't understand.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on May 20, 2009 23:38:55 GMT -5
Steve's Examiner column talks about his preview of Let It Roll. He notes that Giles Martin is said to have digitally remastered the tracks. So does this mean remastering beyond the reissues of this decade? I don't understand. I wouldn't combine the two. They're separate issues. "Digital remastering" is the term used on the back of the promo, however. By the way, "The Best of GH" is not going out of print.
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Post by jimc on May 22, 2009 18:40:22 GMT -5
Steve's Examiner column talks about his preview of Let It Roll. He notes that Giles Martin is said to have digitally remastered the tracks. So does this mean remastering beyond the reissues of this decade? I don't understand. I wouldn't combine the two. They're separate issues. "Digital remastering" is the term used on the back of the promo, however. By the way, "The Best of GH" is not going out of print. Two what? I still don't understand...separate issues? I'm trying to understand if there's been an upgrade to say, "My Sweet Lord" or "Give Me Love" by Giles Martin. It sounds as if they're saying that?
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Post by Steve Marinucci on May 22, 2009 20:52:38 GMT -5
I wouldn't combine the two. They're separate issues. "Digital remastering" is the term used on the back of the promo, however. By the way, "The Best of GH" is not going out of print. Two what? I still don't understand...separate issues? I'm trying to understand if there's been an upgrade to say, "My Sweet Lord" or "Give Me Love" by Giles Martin. It sounds as if they're saying that? Jim: No, there aren't any major sonic upgrades to any tracks, except maybe the Bangladesh tracks, which sounded cleaner than I remember them.
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Post by jimc on May 22, 2009 22:39:18 GMT -5
Thanks, Steve. So the Bangladesh tracks sound better than the release of a couple of years ago?
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Post by John S. Damm on May 22, 2009 23:50:30 GMT -5
Two what? I still don't understand...separate issues? I'm trying to understand if there's been an upgrade to say, "My Sweet Lord" or "Give Me Love" by Giles Martin. It sounds as if they're saying that? Jim: No, there aren't any major sonic upgrades to any tracks, except maybe the Bangladesh tracks, which sounded cleaner than I remember them. Well, this comp just piggybacks then off the remastered Bangladesh from a few years ago. Man, if this upcoming album isn't a source of sonic clarity and brilliance, then this comp really sucks!
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 14, 2009 16:45:44 GMT -5
Best Buy's Sunday circular had the cover image of George Harrison: Let It Roll and listed the price as the very decent $9.99 for Tuesday.
I was glad to see it so advertised as more and more, solo Beatle releases are not getting much publicity for Tuesday "new release day"(in the U.S.) and in fact, things like Ringo's new releases may or may not be available at many retailers on release day.
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