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Post by Beatle Bob on Jul 16, 2009 8:42:34 GMT -5
No one should complain about Dave's series of questions for Paul. He's a comic and he's certainly no Larry King Rarity for me....I stayed up late! Taped Letterman naturally for McCartney's performance....and the news report on the 11 am news --so it's a nice little though choppy video of news of the event, then THE event. I got about 4 hours of sleep. Man, I'm dragging my ass today. But it was cool to see the ENTIRE performance live last night from the streets of NYC. What an unexpected treat, especially since I couldn't get tickets to see him live at the Mets (Boo!), Citifield shows this weekend... Regards, Beatle Bob I think you can still get tickets at www.507tixx.com if you hurry, Bob. Also, radio station Q104.3 is giving away tickets for all three concerts, so you may still have a shot. Yeah, that's what I heard too, sir. Thanks. Just can't afford expensive tickets right now. I'm hoping I can find some "nose-bleed" tickets as I haven't had a good nose bleed in years ;D Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by jimc on Jul 16, 2009 8:48:25 GMT -5
4. Playing on the marquee was absolutely fantastic, a great idea and it seemed exciting.....until Paul and the boys do a rather subdued "Get Back." Boring! 5. "Sing The Changes" sounded awesome; Paul and guys have reverb added to vocals but that is very appropriate for this song. What greatly angered me was the absolutely lame response by the majority of the crowd. Yes, some people recognized it and were dancing but from what was shown on television, the vast majority sat there like dumbasses in their Beatles' tee shirts probably wanting nothing but Beatles' tunes. Hey folks, this was an appearance by Paul McCartney and not The Beatles! These are the same assholes who run to buy beer or expel beer or just talk through and disrupt whenever Paul plays a new song in concert. I thought that it was so cool on "Sing The Changes" but those people wanted "Let It Be." I thought it was very appropriate that Paul did GET BEACK, considering he was up there like the rooftop, playing to a bunch of onlookers in the street. Plus, it was the 40th Anniversary of the rooftop concert. The crowd really got into it, as well they should. I have to disagree about SING THE CHANGES, which I thought brought the party to a screeching halt. Now, I like the song on the album, but this live version to me did not do it justice. I don't know how you can blame the audience in the streets and get "angered" and call them "dumbasses" when 99% of them were there to see "A Beatle", and not to see "Paul McCartney the Solo Musician Who Has A New Album Out". This is pretty much the same thing we always discuss regarding Paul's set list at his concerts; the simple objective facts are, the majority of the people at his shows WANT THE BEATLES. I'd say that, unlike the fans who pay to see Paul's concerts, most of these onlookers on the streets of Manhattan were just casuals who wanted to be there, and many of them probably only had a passing familiarity with GET BACK, never mind SING THE CHANGES! Many of them were probably not even bonafide "Paul fans", but rather were just interested in being there for the action at the end of a work day. I'm thrilled he did "Sing the Changes" -- thankfully it wasn't "I Saw Her Standing There." He definitely catered to the casual fan with most of the set. And Beatles vs. Paul? No one saw the Beatles yesterday in New York. It was Paul McCartney. He has a recent record out. A very good one. And I'm proud of him for highlighting it. He's definitely playing it safe with most of the set choices, and I don't think there's a thing wrong with opening things up a bit. I'm with JSD -- people should expand and listen to some new music. OldFred's 20-year-old niece and her ilk SHOULD be more interested in "Sing the Changes."
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 16, 2009 9:05:21 GMT -5
I don't think there's a thing wrong with opening things up a bit. I'm with JSD -- people should expand and listen to some new music. OldFred's 20-year-old niece and her ilk SHOULD be more interested in "Sing the Changes." Well, first let's get Fred's niece (and her ilk) to familiarize themselves with the basic Beatles and Paul McCartney classics! I'd bet most of them haven't even heard "Got To Get You Into My Life". After that, then it's the Beatles fans themselves who need to "branch off and into more obscure solo material". - IMO - I'm just trying to be objective; personally, I PREFER than Paul shake up his set list, as I often say. But I'm in the minority with that view, and that's not who Paul is largely playing for on a New York street. And repetitious or not, the song "Get Back" was just BEGGING to be the obvious opening rocker on the Marquee-Top. The majority of lurkers in attendance probably never saw Paul in the flesh before this. As it worked, out, Paul did a well-chosen 30 minute selection of classic Beatles songs and his hit "Band on the Run", with the new "Sing the Changes" as an added "bonus", if you like. I just didn't like that the Letterman show only broadcast the two songs. Dave could have, and should have, worked the entire show into the hour.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 16, 2009 10:11:54 GMT -5
4. Playing on the marquee was absolutely fantastic, a great idea and it seemed exciting.....until Paul and the boys do a rather subdued "Get Back." Boring! 5. "Sing The Changes" sounded awesome; Paul and guys have reverb added to vocals but that is very appropriate for this song. What greatly angered me was the absolutely lame response by the majority of the crowd. Yes, some people recognized it and were dancing but from what was shown on television, the vast majority sat there like dumbasses in their Beatles' tee shirts probably wanting nothing but Beatles' tunes. Hey folks, this was an appearance by Paul McCartney and not The Beatles! These are the same assholes who run to buy beer or expel beer or just talk through and disrupt whenever Paul plays a new song in concert. I thought that it was so cool on "Sing The Changes" but those people wanted "Let It Be." I thought it was very appropriate that Paul did GET BEACK, considering he was up there like the rooftop, playing to a bunch of onlookers in the street. Plus, it was the 40th Anniversary of the rooftop concert. The crowd really got into it, as well they should. I have to disagree about SING THE CHANGES, which I thought brought the party to a screeching halt. Now, I like the song on the album, but this live version to me did not do it justice. I don't know how you can blame the audience in the streets and get "angered" and call them "dumbasses" when 99% of them were there to see "A Beatle", and not to see "Paul McCartney the Solo Musician Who Has A New Album Out". This is pretty much the same thing we always discuss regarding Paul's set list at his concerts; the simple objective facts are, the majority of the people at his shows WANT THE BEATLES. I'd say that, unlike the fans who pay to see Paul's concerts, most of these onlookers on the streets of Manhattan were just casuals who wanted to be there, and many of them probably only had a passing familiarity with GET BACK, never mind SING THE CHANGES! Many of them were probably not even bonafide "Paul fans", but rather were just interested in being there for the action at the end of a work day. Joe, you make a good point on "Get Back" and the similarity to the rooftop "show" 40 years ago. That makes sense. Still, I thought this version went on too long and Paul should have stopped before going into the extended fade-out. I like your point on song selection though. As to "Sing The Changes," I was dreading hearing it live because Electric Argument seems more of a studio creation than most of Paul's albums. I know Paul debuted it at that big festival in California(where I believe sayne attended) but I never saw a YouTube video of it. I was also worried about "Sing The Changes" on Letterman because performances on t.v. shows are never as polished as on the concert stage where all the gear is set up, in place and the performer is ready for a peak live performance. I need not have worried, I was blown away by Paul's performance of "Sing The Changes" yesterday on top of that marquee! It was awesome. It seems that no one is disagreeing with me that the majority of the crowd was disappointingly befuddled by "STC" but rather are defending that response. You have another good point, Joe, that many of those folks outside the Ed Sullivan Theater were probably just gawkers but I fear that even at these upcoming Macca concerts, where there will be no gawkers but supposed fans, that the vast majority will be indifferent to the new stuff. That is dangerous because it encourages Paul to become an oldie but moldy! I re-watched my taped Letterman video this morning and the Letterman commercial plugging Paul is blatantly exploiting The Beatles, shamelessly. I realize that this is the same theater and all but Paul alone cannot recreate all of that, no way, no how but that is the angle taken by Letterman. The questions by Dave to Paul were primarily about The Beatles("How did you guys get along?", my God, haven't we been there, done that since 1964?) and a jump to Michael Jackson. Why not discuss EA more or what exactly Paul intends as to these series of concerts? Is this a tour or not? Instead, it was "Did you guys pick on Ringo?", which was admittedly hilarious the way Dave asked that. Dave threw huge softballs to Paul which rather surprised me based on his treatment of other guest recently. It was a good appearance by Paul all in all. I have always said that Paul should do a theater tour centering around Ram but now, after seeing "Sing The Changes" live, to hell with Ram and center such an intimate tour around Electric Argument and weed out all those Beatles-only fans.
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Post by Beatle Bob on Jul 16, 2009 11:10:15 GMT -5
Being it was THE Ed Sullivan Theater where the Beatles premiered in the US on tv, I was hoping he'd open up with the same song as they did in '64, "All My Loving". Yet, I was not disappointed one bit. It was a once in a lifetime experience for me to be there and catch him playing on such an usual stage in NYC. One that will never be repeated in such a fashion by him. Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 16, 2009 11:38:13 GMT -5
Being it was THE Ed Sullivan Theater where the Beatles premiered in the US on tv, I was hoping he'd open up with the same song as they did in '64, "All My Loving". Yet, I was not disappointed one bit. It was a once in a lifetime experience for me to be there and catch him playing on such an usual stage in NYC. One that will never be repeated in such a fashion by him. Regards, Beatle Bob Maybe if Paul and band were inside then that's what he would have opened up with. As JoeK noted, it had more of the Let It Be Rooftop feel to it than the Feb. 1964 appearance hence "Get Back." I was glad that Dave clarified that Paul had been back in that theater post-Sullivan, pre-Letterman for MTV's Up Close as there was apparently some errors in pre-show publicity that this was Paul's first ever return to the theater. Also, did Paul get his stories mixed up last night: He told how he was about to go on solo to do "Yesterday" and the stagehand asked him, "Are you nervous?" and Paul fibbed and said "no" and the guy said, well you should, 73 million are watching you! Of course, Paul did a solo "Yesterday" on the 1965 Ed Sullivan appearance, it was not broadcast live but pre-recorded and I've never read that the 1965 broadcast(which is my personal favorite because of the music) drew 73 million viewers. Could Paul have misspoken there?
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Post by scousette on Jul 16, 2009 11:47:25 GMT -5
How can any of us complain about a FREE Paul McCartney concert performed on the marquee of the Ed Sullivan Theater?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 16, 2009 12:17:04 GMT -5
Also, did Paul get his stories mixed up last night: He told how he was about to go on solo to do "Yesterday" and the stagehand asked him, "Are you nervous?" and Paul fibbed and said "no" and the guy said, well you should, 73 million are watching you! Of course, Paul did a solo "Yesterday" on the 1965 Ed Sullivan appearance, it was not broadcast live but pre-recorded and I've never read that the 1965 broadcast(which is my personal favorite because of the music) drew 73 million viewers. Could Paul have misspoken there? He definitely got the events mixed up. But the story of the stagehand talking to him just before he did the "Yesterday" solo could only apply to that venue. I wonder if Paul just got the amount of people misremembered... either that, or the stagehand was just spouting that number of viewers from nowhere. Either way, the jist of the story was fun. As an aside -- I think that Paul sounded pretty good in performance, for a 67-year-old. If he can still pull it off reasonably well and not appear foolish, why not? It's amazing how long it's been that he's been performing. It's his speaking voice which sounds roughest to me now.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 16, 2009 12:30:06 GMT -5
Here's a link to a good dead-center view, with the first few minutes of Paul stalling for time before getting the cue to begin:
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 16, 2009 12:33:38 GMT -5
Here's a pro-shot multi-cam version of HELTER SKELTER. Someone leak it from the Letterman crew?
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Post by Beatle Bob on Jul 16, 2009 12:46:10 GMT -5
Here's a pro-shot multi-cam version of HELTER SKELTER. Someone leak it from the Letterman crew? That's not a leak. It's from cbs.com Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by jimc on Jul 16, 2009 13:04:57 GMT -5
I don't think there's a thing wrong with opening things up a bit. I'm with JSD -- people should expand and listen to some new music. OldFred's 20-year-old niece and her ilk SHOULD be more interested in "Sing the Changes." Well, first let's get Fred's niece (and her ilk) to familiarize themselves with the basic Beatles and Paul McCartney classics! I'd bet most of them haven't even heard "Got To Get You Into My Life". After that, then it's the Beatles fans themselves who need to "branch off and into more obscure solo material". - IMO - I'm just trying to be objective; personally, I PREFER than Paul shake up his set list, as I often say. But I'm in the minority with that view, and that's not who Paul is largely playing for on a New York street. And repetitious or not, the song "Get Back" was just BEGGING to be the obvious opening rocker on the Marquee-Top. The majority of lurkers in attendance probably never saw Paul in the flesh before this. As it worked, out, Paul did a well-chosen 30 minute selection of classic Beatles songs and his hit "Band on the Run", with the new "Sing the Changes" as an added "bonus", if you like. I just didn't like that the Letterman show only broadcast the two songs. Dave could have, and should have, worked the entire show into the hour. We generally agree, I think. We both would like to the set list shaken up, but understand the reality of the casual fans. As for the 20 year olds: I came to the Beatles through "Silly Love Songs," "Photograph," and 33 1/3 at around age 14. It was a great way to enter this world. Then I realized that "Got to Get You Into My Life" involved the same guy from "Silly Love Songs" and I was off on this journey.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 16, 2009 13:57:39 GMT -5
As for the 20 year olds: I came to the Beatles through "Silly Love Songs," "Photograph," and 33 1/3 at around age 14. It was a great way to enter this world. Then I realized that "Got to Get You Into My Life" involved the same guy from "Silly Love Songs" and I was off on this journey. Good point. Got to Get You Into My Life was probably not the best example in my case, because when it became a new hit in 1976, I was 14 and I thought it was a Wings song! (I hadn't really played that much post-RUBBER SOUL Beatles up to that point!). It was the ROCK AND ROLL MUSIC album compilation that introduced me to more later stuff, and then I soon bought all the other later albums.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jul 16, 2009 19:28:05 GMT -5
I think its great Paul has Day Tripper in his set list. He should do more Beatles songs from the early period like Hold Me Tight, What You're Doing. She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand, There's A Place, You Won't See Me, I'm Looking Through You, even Do You Want To Know A Secret, Eight Days A Week and I'm Happy Just to Dance with You. The possibilities are endless--Obladi,Oblada, Maxwell's Silver Hammer. I saw a Beatles tribute band and they used Obladi as one of their encores and it got the most applause of the the night-surprise surprise.
Sometimes Paul is influenced into thinking his best songs aren't worthy of singing live.
I am also grateful for the later songs he has added including Sing The Changes, Calico Skies and Only Mama Knows. I wish he would add Mull of Kintyre, Junior's Farm, Sally G, Soily, I'm Carrying, Somedays, Young Boy, Beautiful Night and The World Tonight. Is Monkberry or Oh Woman Oh Why out of the question.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 16, 2009 23:39:41 GMT -5
May I say I took offense with term 'ilk' when applied to my niece. The term has a snobbish connotation the way it was expressed. My niece is taking acting lessons in New York and asked me for acting tips as well and will be seeing me perform in a production of 'Beauty and the Beast' this coming weekend. (I'll be playing the part of Belle's father Maurice).
My niece is a very beautiful and intelligent young lady and has a deep appreciation for all types of music. She may not be a hardcore Beatles fan, but she does appreciate good music and has a great respect for music outside her current generation. She's a good example of the Beatles music going on to be appreciated by later generations of music fans after all us old fogeys are dead and gone.
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Post by jimc on Jul 16, 2009 23:56:13 GMT -5
May I say I took offense with term 'ilk' when applied to my niece. The term has a snobbish connotation the way it was expressed. My niece is taking acting lessons in New York and asked me for acting tips as well and will be seeing me perform in a production of 'Beauty and the Beast' this coming weekend. (I'll be playing the part of Belle's father Maurice). My niece is a very beautiful and intelligent young lady and has a deep appreciation for all types of music. She may not be a hardcore Beatles fan, but she does appreciate good music and has a great respect for music outside her current generation. She's a good example of the Beatles music going on to be appreciated by later generations of music fans after all us old fogeys are dead and gone. No offense intended, though I am often a snob. Seriously, though, you brought her into the conversation. I was only referring to her generically. As for the rest about the acting bit -- way too much information, thank you very much.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 17, 2009 5:42:31 GMT -5
I brought up my niece in my post because she happened to be there at the same time I was and we both didn't know it till later which we both found amusing. As to the reference to acting, she's taking her acting classes in the area which was the reason she was near the Ed Sullivan Theater in the first place, so it's pertinent to my story. As to mentioning the show I'm in, I'm pushing tickets sales. (After all, I'm up against Paul this weekend, for goodness sakes!)
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jul 17, 2009 5:50:07 GMT -5
May I say I took offense with term 'ilk' when applied to my niece. The term has a snobbish connotation the way it was expressed. Sorry about that, Fred; I repeated the term too when responding to Jim's post, as I was addressing his point - but I could have left the word out (it had a negative twinge). Or at least I should have used quotations around it (instead, I used parenthesis).
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Post by OldFred on Jul 17, 2009 6:00:17 GMT -5
May I say I took offense with term 'ilk' when applied to my niece. The term has a snobbish connotation the way it was expressed. Sorry about that, Fred; I repeated the term too when responding to Jim's post, but I could have left the word out. Or at least used quotations around it. That's OK, Joe. I knew you were just responding to the original post and I took your reply as a defense for my niece and her generation as future Beatles fans who will continue to love the music long after we're gone.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Jul 17, 2009 9:03:06 GMT -5
May I say I took offense with term 'ilk' when applied to my niece. The term has a snobbish connotation the way it was expressed. My niece is taking acting lessons in New York and asked me for acting tips as well and will be seeing me perform in a production of 'Beauty and the Beast' this coming weekend. (I'll be playing the part of Belle's father Maurice). My niece is a very beautiful and intelligent young lady and has a deep appreciation for all types of music. She may not be a hardcore Beatles fan, but she does appreciate good music and has a great respect for music outside her current generation. She's a good example of the Beatles music going on to be appreciated by later generations of music fans after all us old fogeys are dead and gone. Fred: I read the posts and I didn't feel they were directed at your niece. It was a comparison about teens in general. It probably could have been worded better, but I didn't interpret it as derogatory.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 17, 2009 22:54:14 GMT -5
May I say I took offense with term 'ilk' when applied to my niece. The term has a snobbish connotation the way it was expressed. My niece is taking acting lessons in New York and asked me for acting tips as well and will be seeing me perform in a production of 'Beauty and the Beast' this coming weekend. (I'll be playing the part of Belle's father Maurice). My niece is a very beautiful and intelligent young lady and has a deep appreciation for all types of music. She may not be a hardcore Beatles fan, but she does appreciate good music and has a great respect for music outside her current generation. She's a good example of the Beatles music going on to be appreciated by later generations of music fans after all us old fogeys are dead and gone. Fred: I read the posts and I didn't feel they were directed at your niece. It was a comparison about teens in general. It probably could have been worded better, but I didn't interpret it as derogatory. It wasn't so much that I felt that it was directed at my niece, Steve. I just didn't like the tone of how it was expressed.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 18, 2009 0:13:39 GMT -5
I think its great Paul has Day Tripper in his set list. He should do more Beatles songs from the early period like Hold Me Tight, What You're Doing. She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand, There's A Place, You Won't See Me, I'm Looking Through You, even Do You Want To Know A Secret, Eight Days A Week and I'm Happy Just to Dance with You. The possibilities are endless--Obladi,Oblada, Maxwell's Silver Hammer. I saw a Beatles tribute band and they used Obladi as one of their encores and it got the most applause of the the night-surprise surprise. Sometimes Paul is influenced into thinking his best songs aren't worthy of singing live. I am also grateful for the later songs he has added including Sing The Changes, Calico Skies and Only Mama Knows. I wish he would add Mull of Kintyre, Junior's Farm, Sally G, Soily, I'm Carrying, Somedays, Young Boy, Beautiful Night and The World Tonight. Is Monkberry or Oh Woman Oh Why out of the question. I only want Paul doing "Ob la di, Ob la da" live if he does not play an instrument, skips around the stage while singing it and he goes out into the audience and sits in the laps of bewildered older men who look helplessly to their wives for help as Paul sings to them but the wives just laugh making it all okay! That's how Tony Orlando sang it on his variety show and that's how I want Paul to do it.
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Post by mikev on Jul 18, 2009 1:26:50 GMT -5
Ob-la-di, while not my favorite Beatle track would still be fun live. I think it would go over big to replace the now overdone (just the people on the left side...) Hey Jude as the sing along.
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Post by nine on Jul 18, 2009 7:22:39 GMT -5
I think its great Paul has Day Tripper in his set list. He should do more Beatles songs from the early period like Hold Me Tight, What You're Doing. She Loves You, I Want To Hold Your Hand, There's A Place, You Won't See Me, I'm Looking Through You, even Do You Want To Know A Secret, Eight Days A Week and I'm Happy Just to Dance with You. The possibilities are endless--Obladi,Oblada, Maxwell's Silver Hammer.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 20, 2009 18:10:02 GMT -5
Here's one of my shots of Paul performing on the marquee of the Ed Sullivan Theater for last week's David Letterman Show. And here's the video I shot of Paul performing 'Let Me Roll It' with the 'Purple Haze' coda.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Jul 26, 2009 13:35:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, Beatle Bob! FWIW, it's nice to see "Helter Skelter" performed without all the herky-jerky camera work...
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Post by winstonoboogie on Jul 26, 2009 13:37:22 GMT -5
But I had you beat there .. I was in the front row standing right up to the stage, about 5-6 feet to Paul's right! Nyah Nyah! I was introduced to and shook Paul's hand and chatted with he and Linda at the dress rehearsal of his Liverpool Oratorio at Carnegie Hall in 1991. He autographed my "Meet The Beatles" album and he asked me my opinion of his classical work (as I am an opera singer) since he was not used to writing in the classical genre. TRIPLE NYAH NYAH ;D I hearby nominate lowbasso for Board Prince (Board King being gripweed )
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