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Post by OldFred on Aug 5, 2009 18:50:14 GMT -5
For those who are just going to get the stereo versions of the Remasters (like Moi), and unless you can afford or win them, are you going to pass by the mono box set (Moi again), and just keep the first four of the 1987 CD's? The first four CD's ('Please Please Me', 'With The Beatles', 'A Hard Day's Night', 'Beatles For Sale') were issued in mono. I know everyone is hopped up about getting the mono 'Sgt. Pepper' and 'White Album', but the first four are excellent albums in their own right too. My intention, unless the mono set falls into my lap at no extra cost, was to give my previous Beatles' CD's to a friend or to my brother and perhaps keep the first four as those are in mono. Does anyone have a similar strategy for their '87 CD's?
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 5, 2009 21:36:00 GMT -5
That is a good question. How can the first four Beatles' c.d.'s we all already have differ from the respective mono versions in this upcoming mono box? We already have the first four of that box!
I was hoping President Obama would initiate a "cash for clunkers" program pertaining to The Beatles' 1987 compact discs. We turn them in and we get $450.00 of new money to buy the stereo and mono boxes.
That's a better use of taxpayer money than 99% of the entitlement programs out there.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 6, 2009 16:26:10 GMT -5
That is a good question. How can the first four Beatles' c.d.'s we all already have differ from the respective mono versions in this upcoming mono box? We already have the first four of that box! I was hoping President Obama would initiate a "cash for clunkers" program pertaining to The Beatles' 1987 compact discs. We turn them in and we get $450.00 of new money to buy the stereo and mono boxes. That's a better use of taxpayer money than 99% of the entitlement programs out there. Great thought! Can I steal that one, John??
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Post by OldFred on Aug 6, 2009 16:40:09 GMT -5
That is a good question. How can the first four Beatles' c.d.'s we all already have differ from the respective mono versions in this upcoming mono box? We already have the first four of that box! I was hoping President Obama would initiate a "cash for clunkers" program pertaining to The Beatles' 1987 compact discs. We turn them in and we get $450.00 of new money to buy the stereo and mono boxes. That's a better use of taxpayer money than 99% of the entitlement programs out there. Great thought! Can I steal that one, John?? Hey, wait a minute. It's my idea! I've got dibs!!!!
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 6, 2009 21:32:36 GMT -5
That is a good question. How can the first four Beatles' c.d.'s we all already have differ from the respective mono versions in this upcoming mono box? We already have the first four of that box! I was hoping President Obama would initiate a "cash for clunkers" program pertaining to The Beatles' 1987 compact discs. We turn them in and we get $450.00 of new money to buy the stereo and mono boxes. That's a better use of taxpayer money than 99% of the entitlement programs out there. Great thought! Can I steal that one, John?? Sure unless I pulled a George and subconsciously plagiarized Fred? I just did the real cash for clunkers and thought how funny if the Prez did it to those old Beatles' c.d.'s. Sorry Fred if you earlier suggested this; if so I didn't see it!
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Post by nine on Aug 6, 2009 23:17:40 GMT -5
When I get around to photographing them etc I'll be putting mine on EBay.
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Post by OldFred on Aug 7, 2009 7:21:54 GMT -5
Great thought! Can I steal that one, John?? Sure unless I pulled a George and subconsciously plagiarized Fred? I just did the real cash for clunkers and thought how funny if the Prez did it to those old Beatles' c.d.'s. Sorry Fred if you earlier suggested this; if so I didn't see it! I just wanted my cut, Steve! ;D
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 10, 2009 6:46:57 GMT -5
That is a good question. How can the first four Beatles' c.d.'s we all already have differ from the respective mono versions in this upcoming mono box? We already have the first four of that box! Well, I would hope that the new CDs simply sound better, more crisp and full of life, than the first 4 1987 CDs. There were also some instances, if memory serves, where the songs from the old CDs end too abruptly or don't fade out as long as I was so accustomed to memorizing from the original vinyl days. Still, my plan - at least I THINK at this point - is to spring only for the STEREO releases in 2009, and I'll keep the 4 old original Mono CDs on hand. Or I just may keep everything, I'll see how it goes. I still prefer playing the U.S. Capitol albums anyway! I'm past the days when I was an avid collector who drooled over any rare mixes and odd versions. I even sold off my Japanese MONO vinyl White Album some years ago. If I could, I'd try to get only the Mono White Album and Sgt. Pepper on CD ... but odds are I wouldn't play them much these days anyway.
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Post by nine on Aug 10, 2009 10:13:38 GMT -5
That is a good question. How can the first four Beatles' c.d.'s we all already have differ from the respective mono versions in this upcoming mono box? We already have the first four of that box! Well, I would hope that the new CDs simply sound better, more crisp and full of life, than the first 4 1987 CDs. There were also some instances, if memory serves, where the songs from the old CDs end too abruptly or don't fade out as long as I was so accustomed to memorizing from the original vinyl days. Still, my plan - at least I THINK at this point - is to spring only for the STEREO releases in 2009, and I'll keep the 4 old original Mono CDs on hand. Or I just may keep everything, I'll see how it goes. I still prefer playing the U.S. Capitol albums anyway! I'm past the days when I was an avid collector who drooled over any rare mixes and odd versions. I even sold off my Japanese MONO vinyl White Album some years ago. If I could, I'd try to get only the Mono White Album and Sgt. Pepper on CD ... but odds are I wouldn't play them much these days anyway. My Cds are now on E Bay. I know what you mean about fades etc and differences... I was very upset about the original vinyl fades disappearing of the LEnnon re-releases... "well it must be mine coz your's don't look like that..." (The end of I Found Out ... ) I'm Stepping Out misses out a bit of the ad lib on CD too I think...
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 10, 2009 10:40:11 GMT -5
That is a good question. How can the first four Beatles' c.d.'s we all already have differ from the respective mono versions in this upcoming mono box? We already have the first four of that box! The frequency levels can be improved and the sound can be sharper and cleaner? That would be my thinking.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 10, 2009 11:15:09 GMT -5
That is a good question. How can the first four Beatles' c.d.'s we all already have differ from the respective mono versions in this upcoming mono box? We already have the first four of that box! The frequency levels can be improved and the sound can be sharper and cleaner? That would be my thinking. LOL! Now the obsessive-compulsive in me says that I must have the mono boxset. It will be different. [Sigh] I am waiting for when the powers-that-be announce next year that they will issue a Beatles' Box of remixed albums! Where will it end? ;D
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Post by revolver66 on Aug 10, 2009 14:01:29 GMT -5
Well keep in mind that the Mono Box Set will be limited and sure to sell out. The Stereo Editions will be the standard. If you have to have it all get the Mono Set First as the Stereo Set will be around longer. Also the individual Cds will all be Stereo. I anticipate the Mono Set going for Big Bucks when all are sold out. If these truely sound better than ever Mono will be the way to go for many of the Tracks!! Just one example but I Want To Hold Your Hand is killer in MONO and not so much in Stereo. I know the opposite can be said for some of the stuff but more so for the latter years. I do like the cash For Clunkers idea though!!!!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 11, 2009 5:38:31 GMT -5
If these truely sound better than ever Mono will be the way to go for many of the Tracks!! Just one example but I Want To Hold Your Hand is killer in MONO and not so much in Stereo. That's true, and it made me think of something I haven't considered until now. I've forgotten all about the first PAST MASTERS set! Will PAST MASTERS VOL. 1 also be in MONO?? I've been saying I'll only buy the Stereo discs, and will hold onto the first 4 original 1987 CDs in Mono, so at least I'll retain all the early tracks in Mono --- but I forgot that PM 1 also has many early tracks on it as well. I'm certainly not going to buy the Mono Box just to get PM 1 in Mono.
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Post by OldFred on Aug 11, 2009 6:48:13 GMT -5
Oh, that's right. I forgot about the mono tracks on the Past Masters CD's. I guess we may have to consider holding on to the original issues of Past Masters too.
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Post by Beatle Bob on Aug 11, 2009 9:29:40 GMT -5
I'm actually keeping all the original '87 CDs. Being a collector it's hard to ditch them. PLUS, I really believe there will be a flood of them turning up at used CD shops shortly and they'll stop buying them from us quite soon after the remasters are issued. In regards to whether it will be worth getting the mono of the first four in mono (only available from the mono box) and the answer should be a resounding yes! The technology and people involved have (from what they've said/press releases/interviews) sound like they just weren't pressing album masters as if they were pressing them to vinyl (as what happened with the '87 CDs) and is the main reason why those CDs suffer. (Plus they just didn't bring in Jeff Jones from Sony to do it wrong. He has a great reputation working on archival material) The '87 CDs could have/should have been diffinitive, but in the 80's their was an assumption, because it wasn't on vinyl, it should naturally sound better. Wrong. My Dr. Ebbetts "RED MONO" series of needledrops sound night and day BETTER than the legitimately issued '87 CDs. Full-bodied, crisp, full of snap and punch that lack from the '87 mono CDs. Just imagine what these new remasters will sound like being done right. I'm excited and heading right for the mono box first on 9/9/09 ;D Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 11, 2009 10:05:32 GMT -5
I'm actually keeping all the original '87 CDs. Being a collector it's hard to ditch them. PLUS, I really believe there will be a flood of them turning up at used CD shops shortly and they'll stop buying them from us quite soon after the remasters are issued. LOL! I am with you Bob about not wanting to get rid of my 1987 Beatles' c.d.'s and that would be true even if the Feds had a "Cash for Clunkers" program on the old Beatles' discs. ;D The problem I am getting is from my wife! She has said that for every new Beatles' c.d. I bring home, an old one must go out as she says I am taking up too much space with my c.d./dvd collection! She is dead serious and says I don't need two sets of the albums. I haven't even approached her on the mono box yet! I suspect my old set will come to the office as my records have (and where I discovered some water damage to a couple of my albums in the lower crate when a central air conditioning unit leaked water when malfunctioning). I was fit to be tied with her and I am again. THESE ARE THE BEATLES' REMASTERS DAMN-IT!
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Post by revolver66 on Aug 11, 2009 12:46:04 GMT -5
I didn't think about this until now but isn't it true that a few Beatles songs do not exist in Stereo? I think Love Me Do/PS I Love You/She Loves You/I'll Get You..and one of George's from the Sub Soundtrack. If that is so they wouldn't be included in the Stereo Set would they??? I mean imagine someone buying the Stereo Set and thinking they got it all to be missing a few Tracks!!
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Post by Beatle Bob on Aug 11, 2009 12:58:29 GMT -5
I didn't think about this until now but isn't it true that a few Beatles songs do not exist in Stereo? I think Love Me Do/PS I Love You/She Loves You/I'll Get You..and one of George's from the Sub Soundtrack. If that is so they wouldn't be included in the Stereo Set would they??? I mean imagine someone buying the Stereo Set and thinking they got it all to be missing a few Tracks!! Those were singles and should be on the Mono Past Masters if I'm correct. Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by Beatle Bob on Aug 12, 2009 11:01:43 GMT -5
Here is the stereo Past Masters tracklisting from Amazon: Disc: 1 1. Love Me Do (Single Version) 2. From Me To You 3. Thank You Girl 4. She Loves You 5. I'll Get You 6. I Want To Hold Your Hand 7. This Boy 8. Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand (I Want To Hold Your Hand) 9. Sie Liebt Dich (She Loves You) 10. Long Tall Sally 11. I Call Your Name 12. Slow Down 13. Matchbox 14. I Feel Fine 15. She's a Woman 16. Bad Boy 17. Yes It Is 18. I'm Down Disc: 2 1. Day Tripper 2. We Can Work It Out 3. Paperback Writer 4. Rain 5. Lady Madonna 6. The Inner Light 7. Hey Jude 8. Revolution 9. Get Back 10. Don't Let Me Down 11. The Ballad Of John And Yoko 12. Old Brown Shoe 13. Across The Universe 14. Let It Be 15. You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by revolver66 on Aug 12, 2009 11:06:40 GMT -5
Here is the stereo Past Masters tracklisting from Amazon: Disc: 1 1. Love Me Do (Single Version) 2. From Me To You 3. Thank You Girl 4. She Loves You 5. I'll Get You 6. I Want To Hold Your Hand 7. This Boy 8. Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand (I Want To Hold Your Hand) 9. Sie Liebt Dich (She Loves You) 10. Long Tall Sally 11. I Call Your Name 12. Slow Down 13. Matchbox 14. I Feel Fine 15. She's a Woman 16. Bad Boy 17. Yes It Is 18. I'm Down Disc: 2 1. Day Tripper 2. We Can Work It Out 3. Paperback Writer 4. Rain 5. Lady Madonna 6. The Inner Light 7. Hey Jude 8. Revolution 9. Get Back 10. Don't Let Me Down 11. The Ballad Of John And Yoko 12. Old Brown Shoe 13. Across The Universe 14. Let It Be 15. You Know My Name (Look Up The Number) Regards, Beatle Bob What I'm saying is if a few of these tracks weren't ever released in Stereo will they be available in the Stereo Box Set? I mean She Loves You would have to be Fake Stereo!!
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Post by Beatle Bob on Aug 12, 2009 13:35:11 GMT -5
What I'm saying is if a few of these tracks weren't ever released in Stereo will they be available in the Stereo Box Set? I mean She Loves You would have to be Fake Stereo!! Exactly. Just like what's on the Capitol Versions....Duophonic stereo! Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by revolver66 on Sept 10, 2009 2:47:11 GMT -5
What I'm saying is if a few of these tracks weren't ever released in Stereo will they be available in the Stereo Box Set? I mean She Loves You would have to be Fake Stereo!! Exactly. Just like what's on the Capitol Versions....Duophonic stereo! Regards, Beatle Bob I heard that if there is no true Stereo Version that the Mono was used such as Love Me Do/She Loves You etc..So No Fake Stereo! I like that idea.
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 12, 2009 20:48:51 GMT -5
Exactly. Just like what's on the Capitol Versions....Duophonic stereo! Regards, Beatle Bob I heard that if there is no true Stereo Version that the Mono was used such as Love Me Do/She Loves You etc..So No Fake Stereo! I like that idea. Yes, that's what happened. For a collector like me, it's not being 100% faithful to the original releases, Especially where in the stereo PPL CD they used the mono version of Love Me Do! If you're gonna issue these CDs like they originally came out, then put it out with the original duophonic stereo version of that track! It's the only blemish I can find in the remasters. Regards, Beatle Bob
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