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Jan 12, 2010 23:53:21 GMT -5
Post by OldFred on Jan 12, 2010 23:53:21 GMT -5
Just picked up Ringo's new CD 'Y Not' today. I think it's one of the best albums he's put out since 'Time Takes Time' and 'Vertical Man'. It's very rockin' with excellent musicianship throughout. The duet with Paul, 'Walk With You' has already been discussed and it is a very nice tune with a lovely vocal performance between the two former Fabs who compliment each other well.
Other tunes I enjoy are 'The Other Side of Liverpool', a more rougher, gritty and less nostalgic song than 'Liverpool 8'. 'Peace Dream', while not a strong track, is still pretty decent with a good, positive message. 'Everyone Wins' is a remake of the song that was released as a bonus track from one of the singles off 'Time Takes Time'. The arrangement is just slightly different from the original version, but it's still a neat song.
'Can't Do It Wrong' has some really tasty, bluesy guitar work. 'Time' is a nice surprise in that the final 2 minutes of the song is practically an instrumental that really shows off the musicianship of the band. Another nice surprise is the final song 'Who's Your Daddy' with Joss Stone basically being the main vocalist with Ringo coming in during the chorus and a few verses.
In my opinion, this is a very enjoyable and rockin' Ringo album that fans should have fun listening to.
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Jan 13, 2010 13:12:13 GMT -5
Post by lowbasso on Jan 13, 2010 13:12:13 GMT -5
Just picked up Ringo's new CD 'Y Not' today. I think it's one of the best albums he's put out since 'Time Takes Time' and 'Vertical Man'. It's very rockin' with excellent musicianship throughout. The duet with Paul, 'Walk With You' is a very nice tune with a lovely vocal performance between the two former Fabs who compliment each other well. Glad you like the latest "Beatles" track!! Me Too! Far as I know, I haven't heard any negative comments on it from John or George....... ;D ;D ;D |
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Jan 15, 2010 13:01:32 GMT -5
Post by John S. Damm on Jan 15, 2010 13:01:32 GMT -5
Despite JoeK's prohibiting me from buy anymore new Ringo( ;D ), I simply cannot find this album anywhere around my home.
I had played a download but those sound crappy through my cheap computer speakers and I don't like to base any opinions on that.
It is pretty sad when an ex-Beatle's album is only readily available in the largest of cities or mail-order. I should be able to walk into any Wal-Mart and demand my copy for cold, clean cash!
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Jan 15, 2010 17:00:56 GMT -5
Post by ursamajor on Jan 15, 2010 17:00:56 GMT -5
Does Y Not have any screaming on it ?
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Jan 15, 2010 17:11:39 GMT -5
Post by Steve Marinucci on Jan 15, 2010 17:11:39 GMT -5
Does Y Not have any screaming on it ? Screaming? |
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Jan 15, 2010 17:13:20 GMT -5
Post by Steve Marinucci on Jan 15, 2010 17:13:20 GMT -5
Despite JoeK's prohibiting me from buy anymore new Ringo( ;D ), I simply cannot find this album anywhere around my home. I had played a download but those sound crappy through my cheap computer speakers and I don't like to base any opinions on that. It is pretty sad when an ex-Beatle's album is only readily available in the largest of cities or mail-order. I should be able to walk into any Wal-Mart and demand my copy for cold, clean cash! You notice how everyone in Wal-Mart looks uglier than you? |
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Jan 15, 2010 17:15:19 GMT -5
Post by ursamajor on Jan 15, 2010 17:15:19 GMT -5
Does Y Not have any screaming on it ? Screaming? Ahhhh... Steve... you haven't heard Yoko's Why and Why Not from Yoko Ono / Plastic Ono Band ... thought maybe Ringo was going to cover Yoko  lol .. |
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Jan 15, 2010 17:48:44 GMT -5
Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 15, 2010 17:48:44 GMT -5
Despite JoeK's prohibiting me from buy anymore new Ringo( ;D ), I simply cannot find this album anywhere around my home. I had played a download but those sound crappy through my cheap computer speakers and I don't like to base any opinions on that. It is pretty sad when an ex-Beatle's album is only readily available in the largest of cities or mail-order. Well, if this is the case, I wouldn't necessarily blame Ringo (not saying you're doing that - this time!  ). Apparently, according to other forums I frequent, the days of CDs are winding down, and stores are allegedly not stocking them much anymore. I don't necessarily agree with those naysayers, by the way. But at least that's what a lot of "pro-downloaders" (of which I am not one) are claiming. I haven't made the attempt to go to BEST BUY to find Ringo's CD yet; I'm hoping it'll be there when I make the trip. I've been working days, and too tired at night afterward to drive to the store and look. My wife may take a ride for me tomorrow afternoon and try to pick it up, as she'll be home. |
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Jan 17, 2010 14:55:27 GMT -5
Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 17, 2010 14:55:27 GMT -5
I just got the new album! Found it right around the corner from BEST BUY, at the FYE store - only $11.99! Even on the brief car ride home I could tell this CD's a winner, and superior to the last three albums Ringo has released*...
*(Actually, I was listening to LIVERPOOL 8 on the car ride to the store, and I really liked the first three tracks on THAT album too! I tell ya, sometimes you have to give these things more time).
My favorite Y NOT tracks so far:
the McCartney duet, of course - WALK WITH YOU - which... I must confess... is beginning to bring sentimental tears to my eyes when I hear it. This song is actually a big deal in the Beatles' history.
PEACE DREAM -- Love it, even if at first listen I winced a tad when Ringo sang the name-checking lyric: "Just like John Lennon said..."
THE OTHER SIDE OF LIVERPOOL - pretty good, down and gritty.
EVERYONE WINS -- Really like this one.
Overall, a very strong collection of songs.
I really hope more Beatles fans will give this CD a chance.
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Jan 20, 2010 23:41:29 GMT -5
Post by John S. Damm on Jan 20, 2010 23:41:29 GMT -5
I bought the only copy of Y Not at the Kokomo Indiana Best Buy last Saturday before The Colts destroyed Baltimore.
"Fill In The Blanks" starts with the lyrics:
"Talking on the telephone,
Nothing to say.
Empty conversation heading my way."
Unfortunately, on Y Not the lyrics to eight of the ten songs send "empty conversation" our way. I am starting to believe that Ringo should only do an album every 20 years as there were only two decent songs each on his last three studio albums. That is six decent songs, we need at least four more which equates to two more Ringo albums!
"Fill In The Blanks" is not rock and if Ringo thinks that it is then reports of his senility are true. "Peace Dream" is an absolute joke, an utter embarrassment when Ringo, not content to lift half the lyrics to "Imagine" and name check it and "Give Peace A Chance," name-checks John Lennon just in case some moron misses the former connection between Ringo and John. The sad thing is "Peace Dream" could have been much better with original lyrics.
"The Other Side Of Liverpool" is a good song, one of only two on this album. It is a good companion to Paul's "That Was Me" from MAF. In fact, if Paul and Ringo ever do another concert together like the TM concert last year, it would be very cool for Paul to do "That Was Me" with Ringo following right up with "The Other Side Of Liverpool." Good job here Ringo. This might be better than "Liverpool 8" because it is grittier.
The best song on Y Not is clearly "Walk With You" and that is easily because of the poignant vocal appearance by James Paul McCartney. WWY is a very touching song. It might be Ringo's best solo song since "Don't Go Where The Road Don't Go." Thinking of the long road traveled by Ringo and Paul, this song can almost choke me up. Very pretty although there is still some name checking to other songs in the lyrics but at least they are new ones. Paul sounds his age but that makes it so poignant: two old soldiers walking into the sunset. Great job Ringo(and Paul)!
"Time" is another blank space, fill in the blanks! There is a knock in this song about looking to yesterday. I wonder if that is a dig on "Yesterday," the song's sentiments? I doubt it. Ringo needed a fifth song.
"Everyone Wins" has a decent start but quickly goes nowhere with the fortune cookie lyrics. Wait a minute, fortune cookie writings are great literature compared to this song's lyrics. Ringo needed a sixth song.
When "Mystery Of The Night" started, I thought that I was listening to TESLA! That is not a good thing really. Soon enough Ringo comes crashing back in. Actually this song has a decent melody. I might have a third song I like. It goes on kind of long though.
"Can't Do It Wrong" is not accurate: Ringo did do it wrong on this song. Ringo needed a song eight for the album.
"Y Not" is the need for Ringo to have ninth song and on Who's Your Daddy I yearned for Ringo's otherwise undistinguished "Drift Away" cover on Vertical Man.
Well, two decent songs out of ten is still a F! ;D The two good songs here are very good though.
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Jan 21, 2010 6:47:04 GMT -5
Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 21, 2010 6:47:04 GMT -5
Unfortunately, on Y Not the lyrics to eight of the ten songs send "empty conversation" our way. I am starting to believe that Ringo should only do an album every 20 years as there were only two decent songs each on his last three studio albums. That is six decent songs, we need at least four more which equates to two more Ringo albums! "Fill In The Blanks" is not rock and if Ringo thinks that it is then reports of his senility are true. "Peace Dream" is an absolute joke, an utter embarrassment when Ringo, not content to lift half the lyrics to "Imagine" and name check it and "Give Peace A Chance," name-checks John Lennon just in case some moron misses the former connection between Ringo and John. The sad thing is "Peace Dream" could have been much better with original lyrics. "The Other Side Of Liverpool" is a good song, one of only two on this album. It is a good companion to Paul's "That Was Me" from MAF. In fact, if Paul and Ringo ever do another concert together like the TM concert last year, it would be very cool for Paul to do "That Was Me" with Ringo following right up with "The Other Side Of Liverpool." Good job here Ringo. This might be better than "Liverpool 8" because it is grittier. The best song on Y Not is clearly "Walk With You" and that is easily because of the poignant vocal appearance by James Paul McCartney. WWY is a very touching song. It might be Ringo's best solo song since "Don't Go Where The Road Don't Go." Thinking of the long road traveled by Ringo and Paul, this song can almost choke me up. Very pretty although there is still some name checking to other songs in the lyrics but at least they are new ones. Paul sounds his age but that makes it so poignant: two old soldiers walking into the sunset. Great job Ringo(and Paul)! "Time" is another blank space, fill in the blanks! There is a knock in this song about looking to yesterday. I wonder if that is a dig on "Yesterday," the song's sentiments? I doubt it. Ringo needed a fifth song. "Everyone Wins" has a decent start but quickly goes nowhere with the fortune cookie lyrics. Wait a minute, fortune cookie writings are great literature compared to this song's lyrics. Ringo needed a sixth song. When "Mystery Of The Night" started, I thought that I was listening to TESLA! That is not a good thing really. Soon enough Ringo comes crashing back in. Actually this song has a decent melody. I might have a third song I like. It goes on kind of long though. "Can't Do It Wrong" is not accurate: Ringo did do it wrong on this song. Ringo needed a song eight for the album. "Y Not" is the need for Ringo to have ninth song and on Who's Your Daddy I yearned for Ringo's otherwise undistinguished "Drift Away" cover on Vertical Man. Well, two decent songs out of ten is still a F! ;D The two good songs here are very good though. Looks like you're in a minority on this one, John. Y NOT is getting some pretty favorable reviews from fans and critics alike, and is already considered one of Ringo's better albums out of the last few. But there's something in the way you write when you sincerely don't like Ringo's albums, which really comes across as though you hate Ringo. I still think you expect way too much out of him; "Lyrics???" he'll never be Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, nor George Harrison. Never was. I'm wondering if you're giving WALK WITH ME and THE OTHER SIDE OF LIVERPOOL more of a passing grade because you've heard them a bit more by this time (even though in LIVERPOOL's case you somehow feel a new need to slight LIVERPOOL 8 within your comparison; can't one be gritty but the other not?). Speaking for myself, I must confess I have only listened to the first 6 of the 10 tracks. Of those 6 I thought the first 4 were quite good, with PEACE DREAM, LIVERPOOL, WALK WITH ME, and EVERYONE WINS being really exceptional Ringo music. I only heard them a couple of times so I don't even recall the lyrics; what I like are the melodies, the tunes. The words? yeah, whatever. I too first acknowledged the cringe-worthy namechecking of John Lennon in PEACE DREAM, yet I must confess that a friend of mine and I have now begun to quote that line for fun! I do like the way it fits the melody. I could have written what you wrote about WALK WITH ME word for word, so I can agree with you there. "Two old soldiers" -- I like that description. And also the two surviving Beatles... kind of like their bond has grown stronger after the departure of John and George, and now it's just the two of these old friends together, lifting one another and carrying the torch. What I liked about EVERYONE WINS was the way Ringo sings "Ahhhhhhh.... everyone wins", which is pleasantly stuck in my head from the only single time I'd heard it; that's the mark of a catchy, good song, IMO. But why do you need to write such nasty, "anti-Ringo-sounding" insults like " "Fill In The Blanks" is not rock and if Ringo thinks that it is then reports of his senility are true"...? Besides the fact that Ringo's obviously in terrific shape for age 70, this is just unfair. I'm glad Ringo doesn't only do one album every 20 years. |
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Jan 21, 2010 6:49:09 GMT -5
Post by OldFred on Jan 21, 2010 6:49:09 GMT -5
John, I understand that you don't like the album lyrically, but would you at least agree that musically it's a strong album? I felt that the musicianship on this album is some of the best I've ever heard on a Ringo album with Ringo supplying some really excellent drumming. There are some songs that have a really nice groove to them. I love how 'Time' turns into a jam for the last two minutes of the song. You didn't mention 'Who's Your Daddy', which has Joss Stone actually singing the lead with Ringo joining in later, which I thought was a nice switch.
For me, 'Y Not' is an album I can really dig musically and enjoy as music.
By the way, I have the original 1992 version of 'Everyone Wins' from the German CD single (misspelled as 'Everybody Wins') and I stuck that at the end of 'Y Not' on my iPod as a bonus cut. I like both versions of the song, though I think the 92 version has more of an edge to it.
Ironically, Ringo didn't have a copy of the song and had to go to the internet to find it and record it as the demo for the 'Y Not' version. There's a funny exchange on the Fab Fourum podcast with Ringo where Mitch Axelrod said that he had a copy of it and Ringo answered that he should have called Mitch first!
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Jan 21, 2010 7:28:46 GMT -5
Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 21, 2010 7:28:46 GMT -5
By the way, I have the original 1992 version of 'Everyone Wins' from the German CD single (misspelled as 'Everybody Wins') and I stuck that at the end of 'Y Not' on my iPod as a bonus cut. I like both versions of the song, though I think the 92 version has more of an edge to it. Too bad the song didn't make the TIME TAKES TIME album. Actually, while I love TTT, the only two songs I'm not too wild about are RUNAWAYS and WHAT GOES AROUND. I would have liked if EVERYONE WINS was there instead of one of them (probably in place of WHAT GOES AROUND)! |
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Jan 21, 2010 9:32:13 GMT -5
Post by OldFred on Jan 21, 2010 9:32:13 GMT -5
I think there's too much of a tendency amongst Beatles' fans to dismiss Ringo as a singer and lyricist, but overlook his talents as a musician.
Remember, when the fledgling Beatles first went to Hamburg, Ringo was already a professional musician with a big following in Liverpool. When the Beatles were on the verge of really hitting the big time, they knew they needed a drummer like Ringo to really put them over the edge, and their instincts were correct. Ringo's drumming gave the Beatles the additional 'Oomph' they needed musically which blended well with the musical talents of the other three, all four complimenting each other. As a song writer, of course Ringo wasn't in the same league as Lennon & McCartney and Harrison, but his songs had a charm to them that fans could enjoy.
When the band eventually broke up, there was concern about how Ringo would fare, but he surprised everyone by being as successful as the other three, actually having more hits than John Lennon! (I love the story of John sending Ringo a telegram after the success of one of Ringo's singles which read, "Congratulations - How dare you!".)
It's true that from the mid-70's to early 80's Ringo's albums were very poor, but after drying out and going back on the road in 1989, Ringo's muse came back. From 'Time Takes Time' onward Ringo has put out a series of musically excellent albums, all filled with top notch musicians.
As a band leader, Ringo could pick 'em. Even on the All-Starr tours with musicians that have raised question marks from fans, a lot came away surprised by how good the bands actually worked on stage. I too shook my head when I heard 'Richard Marx'? Then I saw the show and said, "All right, not bad". I give Sheila E a lot of credit for challenging Ringo on stage to actually do something he rarely did and that was a drum solo.
What Ringo may lack as a singer and song writer, he makes up for it with excellent musicianship, and that's why I feel that 'Y Not' is his musically best album since 'Time Takes Time' and 'Vertical Man', I dare say even going back to the 'Ringo' album. If you want to enjoy it as just music, 'Y Not' is worth a few spins.
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Jan 21, 2010 12:47:25 GMT -5
Post by John S. Damm on Jan 21, 2010 12:47:25 GMT -5
Looks like you're in a minority on this one, John. Y NOT is getting some pretty favorable reviews from fans and critics alike, and is already considered one of Ringo's better albums out of the last few. Once Ringo hit the oldies circuit in 1989, he's gotten a free ride by the critics. All the reviews are the same(and very short, not going in depth): it is good old Ringo! The reviews never dig deep into the music, just the jolly, silly persona of Ringo. RS gives Y Not 3 stars in a typical skimpy review(Liverpool 8 got 3 1/2 stars so Rings went down actually) but one RS reader agrees with me: "waldodio writes: 2 of 5 Stars Three stars is being generous on the part of RS. If this album weren't made by a former Beatle, I doubt the magazine would even be reviewing it, and if they did they'd rip it apart. The vocals are mediocre (historically typical of Starr), but the real disappointment is the completely pedestrian music and lyrics. I've created more interesting music on my PC. I'd expect a former Beatle to have more at his disposal. And the lyrics - just listen to Mystery of the Night. Does it get any more trite than this? No, it doesn't. I really like Ringo Starr, but it's really time for him to hang it up and go soak up the sun on some south France beach." Joe, I am always in the minority. I love Wings Wild Life and Driving Rain. I think Bob Dylan's Christmas album was the greatest such album ever made in the history of recordings. [To the tune of George's "Something"] I don't hate Ringo but I would love to see objectivity towards Ringo's music by Beatles' fans. We fanatics are the only ones who think Ringo's music after 1974 is good. We are the only ones. Nonfans can better understand our defense of Yoko Ono(she is a gifted artist) than they can our defenses of Ringo in anything other than drumming. Hey, I love the song "Liverpool 8"(see all my writings on that song) but it is happy-go-lucky. I wasn't slighting it; I think the new Ringo Liverpool song is just better, it is grittier talking about Ringo's dad leaving and his mom being a barmaid and all. Hey, I like the idea behind the song and it would be quit good if Ringo had not name-checked "Imagine", GPAC, Amsterdam and even John Lennon. Create your own PEACE DREAM Rings! I like your thoughts on the bond between Ringo and Paul growing stronger. That is poignant. We both like this song! Objectivity. If anyone else in the world made this album it wouldn't even be released. There is a good single in this 10 song album. My giving the album an F was too hard since I am a Beatles' fanatic. It is another C- or maybe C but I write that from a fan's viewpoint. We painfully know that Ringo can do, and has done, much worse!  I agree with OldFred on the point that the production on Y Not is better, cleaner than on his last four studio albums starting with Vertical Man. Ringo's drumming here is more pronounced and that is good. There is no "Rain", "A Day In The Life" or even "God" drumming here by which I mean drumming for the ages but we can at least hear Ringo hitting away! Ringo needs to go back to Tin Pan Alley or at least let other songwriters completely write the majority of songs. When he co-writes all the songs as is his latest trend, then we get really bland stuff. There must be hot young rock artists who still cherish The Beatles enough (as passed down to them by their great grandparents) to write really good new songs for Ringo. |
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Jan 21, 2010 19:52:02 GMT -5
Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 21, 2010 19:52:02 GMT -5
Once Ringo hit the oldies circuit in 1989, he's gotten a free ride by the critics. All the reviews are the same(and very short, not going in depth): it is good old Ringo! The reviews never dig deep into the music, just the jolly, silly persona of Ringo. And it always will, because that's the whole point -- it is just "good old, jolly Ringo"! I can't imagine any of his records - even the best ones back in the day - were really ever thoughtfully analyzed or diagnosed. There is an entirely different approach when it comes to appreciating a Ringo Starr solo album, I think. Expectations go way down, and it is just a matter of hearing good ol' Ringo having fun! One could say the same about that horrendously awful Bob Dylan Christmas album! If that album was made by anyone other than "Bob Dylan", I doubt RS would even review it and if they did, they'd rip THAT apart too! My point being, how can this guy's opinion ring true with you when his exact words could apply to that Dylan Xmas thing you like so much? I could post a bunch of ultra-positive reviews from people who liked Ringo's album, from Amazon.com too, so... Well, I sometimes am in the minority as well - don't forget my appreciation for McCARTNEY II. Why is it assumed that people who liked Ringo's Y NOT are "not being objective"? I don't like everything Ringo has done. I wasn't that wild about his last three albums at all (and I'm not even a big VERTICAL MAN fan); I didn't even have the urge to play the last three CDs after my first lukewarm listen. But I already think Y NOT is an improvement. Now, when you speak about "objectivity from Beatles fans", I'd say that I what I would love to see is fans getting away from just listening to the Beatles and giving the solo albums - and ESPECIALLY those by Ringo Starr - a chance. I don't know if this'll help you or not, but after I wrote my post this morning I read the new ROLLING STONE, which has a feature on Ringo and Y NOT. And according to them, the song PEACE DREAM is actually a deliberate homage to John Lennon. If that's the idea behind it, would that change your outlook at all? Well, again, I am also objective about Ringo and the other Beatles. No way do I love everything they ever did. But I'm saying I'd just think that with us fans we may approach our dislike of their work a little kinder than, say, a Beatles hater would. (And again, if anyone but Bob Dylan made that horrendous Christmas trash, IT wouldn't have gotten released either; I think Ringo's new album is like SGT. PEPPER next to Dylan's holiday croaking  ). I don't think these songs are "bland stuff" (that is, not 5 of the first 6 anyway). And when 70-year-old Ringo is as old as their grandparents, do you think he'd be right for those types of songs? I don't think "hot young rock artists" know how to write "for Ringo". They'd have no clue. |
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Jan 21, 2010 22:29:34 GMT -5
Post by Steve Marinucci on Jan 21, 2010 22:29:34 GMT -5
The more I hear this album, the more I like it. And I don't think it's all happy-go-lucky Ringo. "The Other Side of Liverpool" is definitely not that. And I think "Fill in the Blanks" and "Who's Your Daddy" are exceptional.
Oh well...
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Jan 22, 2010 6:21:59 GMT -5
Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 22, 2010 6:21:59 GMT -5
And I don't think it's all happy-go-lucky Ringo. "The Other Side of Liverpool" is definitely not that. Good point. And you know, another thing about the suggestion that other people should write hit songs for Ringo ... I think Ringo should at least write some lyrics, as he may relect on his own personal life experiences and feelings. I just heard PEACE DREAM again. I really love the melody, and the words convey how Ringo really feels. I think it's a fine song and I love where it's placed on the CD, as the second track. |
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Jan 22, 2010 7:07:01 GMT -5
Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 22, 2010 7:07:01 GMT -5
I finally played the entire CD, and I must admit that the final four songs didn't really grab me at all on my first listen. I don't know what the hell Ringo was thinking with WHO'S YOUR DADDY; it's not even him singing (!), and it's kind of silly, IMO. But hey, I love his silly song STOP AND SMELL THE ROSES, so perhaps WHO'S YOUR DADDY will grow on me as a fun closer one day. My updated opinion is that this is one of those types of albums that begins strong and then dissolves later, which is a shame. I think that FILL IN THE BLANKS, PEACE DREAM, THE OTHER SIDE OF LIVERPOOL, WALK WITH YOU and EVERYONE WINS are 5 good songs, and the meat of this CD. All the others are rather 'blah' for me at this point, with MYSTERY OF THE NIGHT perhaps being most salvageable for me, with the most potential to grow on me. The worst songs on this collection I would peg as TIME and the title track, Y NOT. But 5 strong tracks that I enjoyed hearing - even on my first listens - is half the album, and that's a good thing. And that's still 5 more than on Paul's DRIVING RAIN! |
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Jan 22, 2010 9:05:59 GMT -5
Post by John S. Damm on Jan 22, 2010 9:05:59 GMT -5
And I don't think it's all happy-go-lucky Ringo. "The Other Side of Liverpool" is definitely not that. Good point. And you know, another thing about the suggestion that other people should write hit songs for Ringo ... I think Ringo should at least write some lyrics, as he may relect on his own personal life experiences and feelings. I just heard PEACE DREAM again. I really love the melody, and the words convey how Ringo really feels. I think it's a fine song and I love where it's placed on the CD, as the second track. I agree and in fact I wrote that originally about "The Other Side Of Liverpool," that it was one of my favorites because it was gritty. I'd like to see Ringo do more "serious" music. Also I conceded that "Peace Dream" has the makings of a fine song but those name checks, homage or not. |
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Jan 22, 2010 15:21:18 GMT -5
Post by gloi on Jan 22, 2010 15:21:18 GMT -5
When I heard "The Other Side Of Liverpool" reminded me of something when I first heard it. I think it's "Tweeter and the Monkey Man"
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Jan 23, 2010 6:14:16 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2010 6:14:16 GMT -5
When I heard "The Other Side Of Liverpool" reminded me of something when I first heard it. I think it's "Tweeter and the Monkey Man" with better lyrics... |
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Jan 23, 2010 6:59:05 GMT -5
Post by OldFred on Jan 23, 2010 6:59:05 GMT -5
When I heard "The Other Side Of Liverpool" reminded me of something when I first heard it. I think it's "Tweeter and the Monkey Man" Hey, if Oasis can pinch from the Beatles, why can't Ringo pinch from the Wilburys? |
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Jan 23, 2010 15:10:51 GMT -5
Post by theman on Jan 23, 2010 15:10:51 GMT -5
Just bought the Ringo CD, but haven't listened to it yet.
My initial thoughts on the CD are:
Pretty skimpy packaging (and in today's eco-conscious world, I was actually a bit suprised that it was cased in an old fashioned, non eco-friendly jewel box.)
Liked the "star" logo on the CD. Reminded me a bit of the label from the "Ringo" album. Now that I think of it, the front cover reminds me of the sleeve for the "Ebony and Ivory" single. My God, Ringo has gone beyond name and lyric checking to "photo and label checking" too!!!
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Jan 23, 2010 21:49:55 GMT -5
Post by theman on Jan 23, 2010 21:49:55 GMT -5
Hard to believe, but.....
"Ringo Starr's new "Y Not" album has debuted on the Billboard 200 at #58 for the week ending Jan. 30."
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Jan 24, 2010 7:27:46 GMT -5
Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 24, 2010 7:27:46 GMT -5
Hard to believe, but..... "Ringo Starr's new "Y Not" album has debuted on the Billboard 200 at #58 for the week ending Jan. 30." You're kidding!?? That's awesome news! For Ringo this is a pretty impressive showing (though it will probably fall fast from here). How did this album get exposure to the point of it selling so well? The only thing I could imagine is the duet with Paul, but even that was not highly promoted. |
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Jan 24, 2010 9:17:53 GMT -5
Post by OldFred on Jan 24, 2010 9:17:53 GMT -5
Hard to believe, but..... "Ringo Starr's new "Y Not" album has debuted on the Billboard 200 at #58 for the week ending Jan. 30." That is great, Ringo's best chart showing in years. Sure, it's not the Top Ten, but Top 60 is not bad either. The duet with Paul probably was a factor in it's good showing, and Joe may be right that it'll fall off soon. But, it'd be nice if the duet with Joss Stone also gets some airplay, that might keep the sales up. Hmmm, maybe for his next project Ringo should consider doing a Duets album like Sinatra did. I loved the duets he did with Willie Nelson and Chrissie Hynde on his recent albums. Good job, Ritchie!  |
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Jan 24, 2010 10:11:03 GMT -5
Post by theman on Jan 24, 2010 10:11:03 GMT -5
Hard to believe, but..... "Ringo Starr's new "Y Not" album has debuted on the Billboard 200 at #58 for the week ending Jan. 30." That is great, Ringo's best chart showing in years. Sure, it's not the Top Ten, but Top 60 is not bad either. The duet with Paul probably was a factor in it's good showing, and Joe may be right that it'll fall off soon. But, it'd be nice if the duet with Joss Stone also gets some airplay, that might keep the sales up. Hmmm, maybe for his next project Ringo should consider doing a Duets album like Sinatra did. I loved the duets he did with Willie Nelson and Chrissie Hynde on his recent albums. Good job, Ritchie! I think the duet that Ringo did with Willie Nelson was great (and I'm not much of a Willie Nelson fan). I kinda wonder why he didn't push that as a single to country stations at the time? I've only listened to Y Not once, so while I'm not prepared to critique it yet, I have one initial observation. Upon initial listening, I liked the duet with Joss Stone, but it seems a bit "creepy" to me when this almost 70 year old guy is cooing "Who's your Daddy" to someone who is in her early 20s.  Shades of "You're Sixteen" |
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Jan 24, 2010 11:37:39 GMT -5
Post by winstonoboogie on Jan 24, 2010 11:37:39 GMT -5
Upon initial listening, I liked the duet with Joss Stone, but it seems a bit "creepy" to me when this almost 70 year old guy is cooing "Who's your Daddy" to someone who is in her early 20s. Shades of "You're Sixteen" Yes! I'm surprosed no one else has pointed it out yet! I mentioned to my wife that Joss Stone had a duet with Ringo on his new album, but I didn't dare mention the titile of the song!  |
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Jan 24, 2010 14:24:57 GMT -5
Post by OldFred on Jan 24, 2010 14:24:57 GMT -5
Upon initial listening, I liked the duet with Joss Stone, but it seems a bit "creepy" to me when this almost 70 year old guy is cooing "Who's your Daddy" to someone who is in her early 20s. Shades of "You're Sixteen" Yes! I'm surprosed no one else has pointed it out yet! I mentioned to my wife that Joss Stone had a duet with Ringo on his new album, but I didn't dare mention the titile of the song! In a case of a song like 'Who's Your Daddy', I look at it as the singers being actors playing characters in a play and not necessarily playing themselves, so the age difference doesn't bother me. Heck, if I want to, I can imagine that it's Joss Stone who's older than Ringo! It's just a song and should be enjoyed for what it is, a real cool Rocker.  |
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lol ..
). Apparently, according to other forums I frequent, the days of CDs are winding down, and stores are allegedly not stocking them much anymore. I don't necessarily agree with those naysayers, by the way. But at least that's what a lot of "pro-downloaders" (of which I am not one) are claiming. 
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Shades of "You're Sixteen" 
