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Post by nine on Jan 27, 2010 7:44:34 GMT -5
Incidentally, the title of this thread kind of suggests that Paul has never done anything to match JLPOB and might not be capable of it. I take issue with the whole idea of a question phrased like that a little bit. It's as unfair as asking whether John could match Liverpool Oratorio. That's how I honestly feel. I honestly do NOT think Paul was capable of the kind of raw, pained, introspective honesty that John displayed on POB. That's not a shot at Paul's musical ability; I'm just saying I don't think he was that type of person. Paul was much more private and protective of himself; John let it all hang out, which is why I've always preferred Lennon as a person. On the other hand, your suggestion of whether or not John was capable of a LIVERPOOL ORATORIO is more of a "music abilities" question. And frankly, to balance the scales somewhat, I am not so sure that John could have done the Oratorio. The Oratorio isn't highly regarded anyway... the Sometime In New York City of that genre....
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Post by ursamajor on Jan 27, 2010 17:51:05 GMT -5
I agree John Lennon POB is a masterpiece. It is heartfelt and emotionally deep. I always thought John took his que from the deep emotion of Maybe I'm Amazed, a track in which Paul lays bare his feelings about the Beatles breakup (baby I'm a lonely man whose in the middle of something that he doesn't really understand.) and exposes his vulnerability regarding his dependence on his love for Linda (maybe I'm afraid of the way I need you. ...you pulled me out of time, hung me on the line). I think that track can at match anything on POB. Perhaps Paul did not assemble one album as intense as POB. However, Paul was not always good at assembling his best tracks into one package. At the same time those songs are there if you put them together. John gets credit for putting it all into a neat package. But consider these songs by Paul: 1. Maybe I'm Amazed 2. Every Night These were written during the depths of his depression about the Beatles. And for a very naturally optimistic and less exhibishionist person, these songs are very honest and personal. In Every Night he talks about not being able to get up and out of his bed because of his depression. He just doesn't always spell these things out again because of a need for keeping some things private. But the songs are there if you look. Maybe I'm Amazed would have been on a Paul/POB album, not just the lyrics but the vocal style. He screams it with fear and passion, a great song but like you said Paul would not do a whole album like that. I also really like Dear Friend. I like emotional stirring songs even if they repeat abit.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jan 27, 2010 19:13:16 GMT -5
That's how I honestly feel. I honestly do NOT think Paul was capable of the kind of raw, pained, introspective honesty that John displayed on POB. That's not a shot at Paul's musical ability; I'm just saying I don't think he was that type of person. Paul was much more private and protective of himself; John let it all hang out, which is why I've always preferred Lennon as a person. On the other hand, your suggestion of whether or not John was capable of a LIVERPOOL ORATORIO is more of a "music abilities" question. And frankly, to balance the scales somewhat, I am not so sure that John could have done the Oratorio. The Oratorio isn't highly regarded anyway... the Sometime In New York City of that genre.... That's only be stuffy, superior minded and haughty critics who think the only classical music possible is by trained musicians or people who lived at least one hundred years ago--certainly not by some upstart rock star who can't even read music. Give me a break.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jan 27, 2010 19:50:06 GMT -5
Other songs by Paul that fit this idiom:
6. Too Many People Directed toward John and/or George: "Too Many People preaching practices. Don't let them tell you what you want to be." It rocks harder than anything on Ram 7. Uncle Albert Uncle Albert was a real uncle of Paul's who used to quote the bible all the time. This is a confessional song about guilt over not doing what you are meant to do from a religious and social point of view: We're so sorry if we caused you any pain. Being lazy: We're so sorry but we haven't done a bloody thing all day. Not keeping in touch: But if anything should happen we'll be sure to give a ring. 8. 3 Legs This is clearly about the breakup. "My dog he got three legs, but he can't run (the Beatles can't go on without Paul). I thought you was my friend, but you let me down, put my heart around the bend." 9. Man We Was Lonely A song about the ISOLATION Paul felt immediately after the breakup. 10. Some People Never Know A little swipe at John and Yoko. 11. Here Today About John 12. The Pound Is Sinking The middle section where Paul screams "Oh it didn't happen (John's death or the breakup?) only for a minute (like it was a bad dream). Your heart just wasn't in it anymore (John leaving the group). The scream and emotion is heartwrenching and real. Remember this was just after John was killed.) 13. Daytime Nighttime Suffering This is Paul asking himself if it had been worth it to put Linda though everything she went through--sniping critics, being the wife of a Beatle, being a musician when she really didn't have that as an ambition: What does she get for all the love she gave you, there on the ladder of regret. Daytime, nighttime suffering...Where are the prizes for the game she entered with little chance of much success. It is a very frank song of regret. 14. Summer's Day Song This is the song that Yoko told Paul that John cried when he heard this song in the spring/summer of 1980. There are quotes of John saying about the McCartney II album (other than Coming Up (Live) which was very optimistic and which he said was "a good piece of work") was that the album had a sad and depressed feeling to it. 15. Calico Skies A very heartfelt song to Linda written while she was ill. "I will hold you for as long as you like, I'll hold you till the end of my life". 16. Little Willow A very emotionally moving song about Maureen Starkey's death written to her children left behind: "Bend little willow. Winds gonna blow you hard and cold tonigt. Now and forever came too soon. No one's out to break your heart. It only seems that way" 17. Try Not To Cry This song was one of the first written after Linda's death. Of the album David Wild of Rolling Stone wrote: Run Devil Run -- produced by McCartney and featuring backing by, among others, Pink Floyd guitarist David Gilmour and Deep Purple drummer Ian Paice -- is simultaneously heartbreaking and life affirming. It's a hint that the upbeat optimism that has caused this man to so often be critically undervalued is tied to the same strength that is seeing him through. As for the rest of us, we get a great, unpretentious rock & roll record into the bargain.
18. Nothing Too Much Just Out of Site This is his raw emotion coming through after his break-up with Heather Mills.
19. Vanity Fair Another very personal song about his relationship with Heather breaking apart.
20. That Was Me A more lighthearted but still moving self reflection of his life.
21. Too Much Rain An mature view of life about the pain everyone must endure.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 28, 2010 6:13:38 GMT -5
7. Uncle Albert Uncle Albert was a real uncle of Paul's who used to quote the bible all the time. This is a confessional song about guilt over not doing what you are meant to do from a religious and social point of view: We're so sorry if we caused you any pain. Being lazy: We're so sorry but we haven't done a bloody thing all day. Not keeping in touch with family: But if anything should happen we'll be sure to give a ring. 8. 3 Legs I thought you were my friend 10. Some People Never Know John and Yoko. 11. Here Today About John 19. Vanity Fair Another very personal song about his relationship with Heather breaking apart. Has Paul actually admitted to any of these? We know HERE TODAY is about John. But the others?
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Jan 28, 2010 18:49:47 GMT -5
7. Uncle Albert Uncle Albert was a real uncle of Paul's who used to quote the bible all the time. This is a confessional song about guilt over not doing what you are meant to do from a religious and social point of view: We're so sorry if we caused you any pain. Being lazy: We're so sorry but we haven't done a bloody thing all day. Not keeping in touch with family: But if anything should happen we'll be sure to give a ring. 8. 3 Legs I thought you were my friend 10. Some People Never Know John and Yoko. 11. Here Today About John 19. Vanity Fair Another very personal song about his relationship with Heather breaking apart. Has Paul actually admitted to any of these? We know HERE TODAY is about John. But the others? Paul has talked about his Uncle Albert in interviews quotes in a couple books including the Beatles Biography by Bob Spitz. He said he remembered him with great affection and that the song was an ode to the values he imparted to Paul. Paul has not talked directly about 3 Legs and Some People Never Know. But 3 Legs is clearly (I think) a reference to the breakup. But you have to look at the timing of these songs. What was happening in his life at the time. For example, Some People Never Know was written in 1969 when tensions with John and Yoko were at a fever pitch. Remember the letter John sent to Paul saying "you and Linda will never last" as a married couple. Hence the line: "No one else will ever see how much faith you have in me. Only fools would disagree that its so. Some people never know" and "some people can't sleep at nighttime believing that love is a lie..." Maybe that is where John thought up "How Do You Sleep?". As for Riding to Vanity Fair, it was written during the breakupo with Heather and though it is veiled, Paul is talking about her opportunism and need for fame. She threw him under the bus while she was talking to Vanity Fair to make herself look good. If someone really loves you, they don't treat you that way: The definition of friendship...showing support for the one you love. For someone to feel it, it has to be real or it wouldn't be right. I think I've had enough of your familiar song. I'll try to take my mind off you".
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Post by secretfriend on Jan 28, 2010 21:36:07 GMT -5
I have heard or read ("Wingspan"?) that "Dear Boy" was written about Linda's first husband, not John.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 29, 2010 6:53:33 GMT -5
Paul has talked about his Uncle Albert in interviews quotes in a couple books including the Beatles Biography by Bob Spitz. He said he remembered him with great affection and that the song was an ode to the values he imparted to Paul. I heard him on a 1980s radio show (maybe one of the Rockline appearances, I'm not sure) where he basically said UNCLE ALBERT was about nothing in particular. He may have gotten the name from his real uncle, but more often than not Paul's songs are just gobbeldy-gook. Especially this one, which is a favorite of mine and great fun but ultimately a load of nonsense. Maybe Paul changed his mind in between interviews about this song. I think it's just a load of nothing, though I do enjoy it as that. Perhaps. It's possible. But generally I think you give Paul too much credit when more often than not he just likes to write a catchy song and fit whatever words in. Oh sure. So I guess now we can also give partial songwriting credit to Paul for the song HOW DO YOU SLEEP? Again, you're speaking in absolutes. I happen to believe it IS a veiled song about Heather myself, but that doesn't mean we can actually prove it, unless Paul says so. But it's one of the rare times that Paul had some songwriting balls.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 6, 2010 17:57:33 GMT -5
Paul's main style is to try to not be so obvious with a lyric. When he says a song is about nothing in particular or about Linda's first husband, you have to take it with a grain of salt.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 7, 2010 3:29:24 GMT -5
Paul's main style is to try to not be so obvious with a lyric. When he says a song is about nothing in particular or about Linda's first husband? Try telling that to our friend JoeySelf. I agree with you about "Little Lamb Dragonfly" being a heartfelt examination of Paul's then nonexistent relationship with John. I wrote that once and Joey thought that I was high again(the first time he thought that I was high was when I first praised Wings Wild Life and he accused me of huffing jet fuel fumes!). ;D
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 7, 2010 8:19:40 GMT -5
Paul's main style is to try to not be so obvious with a lyric. When he says a song is about nothing in particular or about Linda's first husband? Try telling that to our friend JoeySelf. I agree with you about "Little Lamb Dragonfly" being a heartfelt examination of Paul's then nonexistent relationship with John. Funny you should mention that song. I was going to possibly start a discussion elsewhere about solo albums we have ignored for far too long or which need more listens. I began by pulling out Paul's RED ROSE SPEEDWAY album, which I have never been very familiar with other than Big Barn Bed and My Love. I enjoyed When the Night , One More Kiss, and Get On the Right Thing, but I HATED that song Little Lamb Dragonfly. I had no clue who or what it's supposed to be about, but that was one of the worst things Paul has ever done, IMO. So unappealing and neverending that I have no desire to ever suffer through it again.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 7, 2010 8:22:54 GMT -5
Paul's main style is to try to not be so obvious with a lyric. But yet he's also confessed that some songs just aren't about anything in particular when he's asked. I don't like to think he was lying just to perpetuate his subtle image or anything. Many (I dare say monst) of his songs are about writing good melodies and tunes and being commercial, and little else.
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Post by nine on Feb 7, 2010 21:35:16 GMT -5
Try telling that to our friend JoeySelf. I agree with you about "Little Lamb Dragonfly" being a heartfelt examination of Paul's then nonexistent relationship with John. Funny you should mention that song. I was going to possibly start a discussion elsewhere about solo albums we have ignored for far too long or which need more listens. I began by pulling out Paul's RED ROSE SPEEDWAY album, which I have never been very familiar with other than Big Barn Bed and My Love. I enjoyed When the Night , One More Kiss, and Get On the Right Thing, but I HATED that song Little Lamb Dragonfly. I had no clue who or what it's supposed to be about, but that was one of the worst things Paul has ever done, IMO. So unappealing and neverending that I have no desire to ever suffer through it again. Little Lamb Dragonfly is a secret pleasure of mine. I wouldn't like my mates catch me singing along to it though!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2010 6:29:22 GMT -5
Paul's main style is to try to not be so obvious with a lyric. When he says a song is about nothing in particular or about Linda's first husband? Thats what he says but when he explains what a song is about and then you read the lyrics it's hard to match the two... My take on Paul and his lyrics is he pays too much attention on the rhyme,hence,as long as the rhyme works the rest of the lyric is irrelevant....thats why his lyricism is the bottom end of his craft..
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 13, 2010 12:26:45 GMT -5
Funny you should mention that song. I was going to possibly start a discussion elsewhere about solo albums we have ignored for far too long or which need more listens. I began by pulling out Paul's RED ROSE SPEEDWAY album, which I have never been very familiar with other than Big Barn Bed and My Love. I enjoyed When the Night , One More Kiss, and Get On the Right Thing, but I HATED that song Little Lamb Dragonfly. I had no clue who or what it's supposed to be about, but that was one of the worst things Paul has ever done, IMO. So unappealing and neverending that I have no desire to ever suffer through it again. Little Lamb Dragonfly is a secret pleasure of mine. I wouldn't like my mates catch me singing along to it though! No kidding! I melt like butter when I hear this heartfelt confessional by Paul. In this dog-eat-dog world of ours, it is sometimes tough being a Beatles' fan when their music often reduces us to tears. This is a mean age where only the strong will survive. And then Ringo goes and throws out gorgeous songs like "A Man Like Me"(from Bad Boy) or "I'm Yours" (from VerticalMan) and I sob like a child.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 16, 2010 10:45:17 GMT -5
Little Lamb Dragonfly is a secret pleasure of mine. I wouldn't like my mates catch me singing along to it though! No kidding! I melt like butter when I hear this heartfelt confessional by Paul. In this dog-eat-dog world of ours, it is sometimes tough being a Beatles' fan when their music often reduces us to tears. This is a mean age where only the strong will survive. And then Ringo goes and throws out gorgeous songs like "A Man Like Me"(from Bad Boy) or "I'm Yours" (from VerticalMan) and I sob like a child. I am sorry Joe K didn't get into at least the Dragonfly part of LLD. That is the part I like best. Joe, listen that section again. You might find you missed something good. I think it is one of Paul's standout solo tracks. He really is putting his heart on the line in this song. It is certainly heartfelt if nothing else...and a nice melody. La La La La La La La, La La La La La La La...come on back.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 16, 2010 11:19:21 GMT -5
No kidding! I melt like butter when I hear this heartfelt confessional by Paul. In this dog-eat-dog world of ours, it is sometimes tough being a Beatles' fan when their music often reduces us to tears. This is a mean age where only the strong will survive. And then Ringo goes and throws out gorgeous songs like "A Man Like Me"(from Bad Boy) or "I'm Yours" (from VerticalMan) and I sob like a child. I am sorry Joe K didn't get into at least the Dragonfly part of LLD. That is the part I like best. Joe, listen that section again. You might find you missed something good. I think it is one of Paul's standout solo tracks. He really is putting his heart on the line in this song. It is certainly heartfelt if nothing else...and a nice melody. La La La La La La La, La La La La La La La...come on back. RTP, as you know I share your thoughts completely on Little Lamb Dragonfly, both that it is a great song and that it is aimed at John and the state of affairs between the men post-split. I have Googled the heck out of this song in search of a detailed explanation by Paul of the song's lyrics with no luck. Have you ever found anything? Also, I just noticed above your post saying that Yoko told Paul that John was tearful after hearing "Summer's Day Song." That is an amazingly beautiful and haunted song and if John was somewhere in Japan and heard this song in the very early morning when the mist or fog were still present in a beautiful Japanese garden surrounding his abode, I could see how powerful that could be. I heard this song that way once but with the misty cornfields of LaPorte County, Indiana as the backdrop one cool summer dawn in 1980! Very cool. John also had to have been impressed with "On The Way" as I think that is as "Plastic Ono Band" or more than "Let Me Roll It." I must give credit where credit is due and I played McCartney II about three or four times in 1980(one of which was the aforementioned 5:00 a.m time when I was having a bronchial asthma attack, couldn't sleep and was playing the album waiting for the medicine to kick in!) and then put it away for almost good. When Joe Karlosi ran the Survivor Games, he picked Macca II and I was forced to sit down and really listen to it for the first time in years. I rediscovered several songs I truly love like "Summer's Day Song."
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Post by OldFred on Feb 16, 2010 16:37:57 GMT -5
I am sorry Joe K didn't get into at least the Dragonfly part of LLD. That is the part I like best. Joe, listen that section again. You might find you missed something good. I think it is one of Paul's standout solo tracks. He really is putting his heart on the line in this song. It is certainly heartfelt if nothing else...and a nice melody. La La La La La La La, La La La La La La La...come on back. RTP, as you know I share your thoughts completely on Little Lamb Dragonfly, both that it is a great song and that it is aimed at John and the state of affairs between the men post-split. I have Googled the heck out of this song in search of a detailed explanation by Paul of the song's lyrics with no luck. Have you ever found anything? According to the Graham Calkin Beatles Pages, 'Little Lamb Dragonfly' was inspired by the death of one of Paul's sheep on his Scottish farm. www.jpgr.co.uk/pctc251.html
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 16, 2010 20:51:08 GMT -5
RTP, as you know I share your thoughts completely on Little Lamb Dragonfly, both that it is a great song and that it is aimed at John and the state of affairs between the men post-split. I have Googled the heck out of this song in search of a detailed explanation by Paul of the song's lyrics with no luck. Have you ever found anything? According to the Graham Calkin Beatles Pages, 'Little Lamb Dragonfly' was inspired by the death of one of Paul's sheep on his Scottish farm. www.jpgr.co.uk/pctc251.htmlThanks, Fred! I have heard something along those lines. My opinion is that the poor little lamb's death absolutely was the original inspiration for this heartfelt song. The death of this little animal opened up Paul's heart and he starts thinking of other things that make him sad. Naturally he comes back to the sad state of affairs between him and John. "How did two rights make a wrong?" Look at "Hey Jude." It starts about poor little Julian Lennon but then Paul opens it up to his own life and his recent loss of beautiful Jane. I can't prove all of this(yet) but I just look at the lyrics of LLD and there is a lot going on there.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 17, 2010 6:26:02 GMT -5
Look at "Hey Jude." It starts about poor little Julian Lennon but then Paul opens it up to his own life and his recent loss of beautiful Jane. I don't think HEY JUDE has anything to do with Jane. At least, not that Paul has ever mentioned (or has he?). All I've ever heard him attribute the inspiration to was Julian and the divorce.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 17, 2010 6:28:46 GMT -5
According to the Graham Calkin Beatles Pages, 'Little Lamb Dragonfly' was inspired by the death of one of Paul's sheep on his Scottish farm. Now that sounds more like the Paul songwriting inspiration I know (a la MARTHA MY DEAR).
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 17, 2010 6:49:17 GMT -5
I am sorry Joe K didn't get into at least the Dragonfly part of LLD. That is the part I like best. Joe, listen that section again. You might find you missed something good. I think it is one of Paul's standout solo tracks. He really is putting his heart on the line in this song. It is certainly heartfelt if nothing else...and a nice melody. La La La La La La La, La La La La La La La...come on back. Sorry, RTP, but I seldom dislike a song as much as I disliked LLD. It was meandering, dull, and neverending. I don't mind being in the minority on this one.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 17, 2010 13:42:48 GMT -5
Look at "Hey Jude." It starts about poor little Julian Lennon but then Paul opens it up to his own life and his recent loss of beautiful Jane. I don't think HEY JUDE has anything to do with Jane. At least, not that Paul has ever mentioned (or has he?). All I've ever heard him attribute the inspiration to was Julian and the divorce. "Well, when Paul first sang 'Hey Jude' to me-or played me the little tape he'd made of it-I took it very personally. 'Ah, it's me!' I said. 'It's me.' He says, 'No, it's me.' I said, 'check, we're going through the same bit,' so we all are. Whoever is going through that bit with us is going through it, that's the groove." John LennonFrom that quote and other things I have read(and don't have the time to find now), I believe "Hey Jude" developed into a pick-me-up for not just Julian but Paul too. Paul clearly starts the song about Julian. No doubt about that, the whole, "Hey Jules" as he is going out to see Cynthia and Julian. But as the song progresses in Paul's mind and as he further works on it, it also becomes a mantra of encouragement to Paul himself. "Take a sad song, and make it better." I am just saying that "Hey Jude" became a song of encouragement or pep talk to Paul himself too and one of the things that was going on with him by 1968 was the increasingly complicated relationship he had with Jane. Apparently he wanted to get married and have kids, Jane wanted to go slower to maximize her acting career, it being at its height, and ultimately Paul started cheating, got caught and Jane suddenly was gone. I'll try to find more on that but I think it safe to say for now that "Hey Jude" morphed from just a pep talk to Julian to also a pep talk to Paul himself and the then the world adopted it as an anthem for making things better.
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Post by acebackwords on Feb 17, 2010 15:48:15 GMT -5
I love both Paul and John's first solo albums. For different reasons, of course. You take the best half of each, put em together on one album, add some great Harrison guitar riffs and a goofy Ringo track, slick it up with George Martin's production, and you'd have another great Beatles album.
I don't know if other Beatles fans did this, but back when the four ex-Beatles were releasing solo albums at the same time, I'd sort of combine them in my head like they were 4-sided White Albums.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 20, 2010 13:20:25 GMT -5
I am sorry Joe K didn't get into at least the Dragonfly part of LLD. That is the part I like best. Joe, listen that section again. You might find you missed something good. I think it is one of Paul's standout solo tracks. He really is putting his heart on the line in this song. It is certainly heartfelt if nothing else...and a nice melody. La La La La La La La, La La La La La La La...come on back. RTP, as you know I share your thoughts completely on Little Lamb Dragonfly, both that it is a great song and that it is aimed at John and the state of affairs between the men post-split. I have Googled the heck out of this song in search of a detailed explanation by Paul of the song's lyrics with no luck. Have you ever found anything? Also, I just noticed above your post saying that Yoko told Paul that John was tearful after hearing "Summer's Day Song." That is an amazingly beautiful and haunted song and if John was somewhere in Japan and heard this song in the very early morning when the mist or fog were still present in a beautiful Japanese garden surrounding his abode, I could see how powerful that could be. I heard this song that way once but with the misty cornfields of LaPorte County, Indiana as the backdrop one cool summer dawn in 1980! Very cool. John also had to have been impressed with "On The Way" as I think that is as "Plastic Ono Band" or more than "Let Me Roll It." I must give credit where credit is due and I played McCartney II about three or four times in 1980(one of which was the aforementioned 5:00 a.m time when I was having a bronchial asthma attack, couldn't sleep and was playing the album waiting for the medicine to kick in!) and then put it away for almost good. When Joe Karlosi ran the Survivor Games, he picked Macca II and I was forced to sit down and really listen to it for the first time in years. I rediscovered several songs I truly love like "Summer's Day Song." Yes John, you reminded me of On the Way. It really is a standout song.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 20, 2010 13:22:26 GMT -5
RTP, as you know I share your thoughts completely on Little Lamb Dragonfly, both that it is a great song and that it is aimed at John and the state of affairs between the men post-split. I have Googled the heck out of this song in search of a detailed explanation by Paul of the song's lyrics with no luck. Have you ever found anything? According to the Graham Calkin Beatles Pages, 'Little Lamb Dragonfly' was inspired by the death of one of Paul's sheep on his Scottish farm. www.jpgr.co.uk/pctc251.htmlPaul said that because he didn't want the Dragonfly part (which is about John) to be discovered to be about John. He rarely admits to or talks about what his songs are about unless its obvious (Here Today).
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 20, 2010 13:25:59 GMT -5
I love both Paul and John's first solo albums. For different reasons, of course. You take the best half of each, put em together on one album, add some great Harrison guitar riffs and a goofy Ringo track, slick it up with George Martin's production, and you'd have another great Beatles album. I don't know if other Beatles fans did this, but back when the four ex-Beatles were releasing solo albums at the same time, I'd sort of combine them in my head like they were 4-sided White Albums. What a great idea to combine the best of both albums. Add a couple of killer tracks from All Things Must Pass and you have another great Beatles album. I'll have to make a track listing for that. You know It Don't Come Easy was recorded in early 1970.
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Post by mikev on Feb 20, 2010 15:49:14 GMT -5
I love both Paul and John's first solo albums. For different reasons, of course. You take the best half of each, put em together on one album, add some great Harrison guitar riffs and a goofy Ringo track, slick it up with George Martin's production, and you'd have another great Beatles album. I don't know if other Beatles fans did this, but back when the four ex-Beatles were releasing solo albums at the same time, I'd sort of combine them in my head like they were 4-sided White Albums. What a great idea to combine the best of both albums. Add a couple of killer tracks from All Things Must Pass and you have another great Beatles album. I'll have to make a track listing for that. You know It Don't Come Easy was recorded in early 1970. Some of us have gone quite overboard with the concept... www.beatlemoney.com/sliderindex.htm
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Post by acebackwords on Feb 22, 2010 13:28:22 GMT -5
[ I am sorry Joe K didn't get into at least the Dragonfly part of LLD. That is the part I like best. Joe, listen that section again. You might find you missed something good. I think it is one of Paul's standout solo tracks. He really is putting his heart on the line in this song. It is certainly heartfelt if nothing else...and a nice melody. La La La La La La La, La La La La La La La...come on back. "Little Lamb Dragonfly" has always been one of my favorite songs in the entire Beatles catalogue. But until I got on this message board I had never heard a comment from anybody about that song. So I always wondered if it was just me, if I had just over-rated the song because of certain associations at the time I heard it (you know how it is with love songs, if they just happen to hit you right when its "your song" ). So its nice to hear that some other people dug it, too. Maybe its just one of those great songs that slipped through the cracks, beneath the radar. "C'mon People" is another great one that nobody seems to have heard about.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 22, 2010 14:24:55 GMT -5
...... "C'mon People" is another great one that nobody seems to have heard about. LOL, there is a love/hate relationship on this Board for "C'mon People." I am in the "okay" camp which isn't loving or hating it. JoeySelf has strong opinions on the lyrics and his analysis of the lyrics are a good read. It might be found in this McCartney Section somewhere.
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