lowbasso
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Post by lowbasso on Sept 27, 2010 19:22:18 GMT -5
Ihave a question to ask my fellow Beatlefans out there in Internet La-La Land.;
"Gotta Have It" is having an auction of R&R Memorabilia in New York Oct. 6-15. I came across an item that sparked my interest. They are auctioning a first edition (1964) of John Lennon's book "In His Own Write" that has been autographed by all four Fabs as well as Neill Aspinall, Derek Taylor, and a number of other people on the Beatles First US Tour in 1964 to a tour crew member named "Eva". So there are multiple autographs all crammed onto two pages along with the Fabs signatures. They are listing a minimum bid of $17,000 to start and expect it to go for between $18,000-$20,000 US Dollars.
Frank Caiazzo, the Beatle autograph expert, told me at a Beatlefest about 15 years ago that there are only two known copies of John's first book that are signed by all four Fabs. So this must be the other one.
Because I own one as well. I bought mine off a dealer at Beatlefest in 1995 and had it authenticated by Frank. Mine has only the four Fabs signatures in it. No one else signed it.
My question is since mine has just the four Fabs signatures and the other one has multiple signatures as well, would mine be considered more valuable on the auction circuit? I have never placed a value on it, and have no intention of selling it, but I was just curious if one with only their signatures would be more valuable?
Any opinions out there would be appreciated. No use trying to find out where I live; it is locked up in my safe box at a bank!! Best Beatle investment I ever made given what I paid for it in 1995 and what this one is going for! I feel like I own a Picasso!
Appreciate any feedback anyone might offer. I just want to know what I should tell my wife to ask for it should I kick the bucket first. I will be most interested in this item's bidding....
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Post by scousette on Sept 27, 2010 19:46:32 GMT -5
I would ask Frank.
My guess is that since yours only has the Fabs' autographs, it would be more valuable than the one with Derek, Neil et al.
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Post by lowbasso on Sept 27, 2010 22:19:14 GMT -5
I would ask Frank. My guess is that since yours only has the Fabs' autographs, it would be more valuable than the one with Derek, Neil et al. That's what I think as well, but I was curious if that opinion would be held by others as well. Thanks.
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Post by dcshark on Oct 20, 2010 14:53:05 GMT -5
Are there any reputable dealers for Beatle autographs?
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 20, 2010 20:05:22 GMT -5
Are there any reputable dealers for Beatle autographs? Frank Caiazza will authenticate any Beatle autographs anybody is offering up for sale. If it already has his endorsement, you can feel pretty confident it is authentic. The big auction houses offer Beatle autographs from time to time and back up their offerings with letters of authentication. Caveat; You can pay dearly for those items plus a 20% commission to the auction house as well. You should NEVER pay for anything autographed without first obtaining a letter of authentication. Frank Caiazza has a website with autographed Beatle items he is selling, though he often asked highly inflated prices for his items. But those kind of items are priced to what the market will bear, so you have to decide how much you are willing to spend and how bad you really want that kind of item. Prices have skyrocketed in the last 20 years for Beatle autographs, especially on album covers, but there is also speculation that once most of the first generation fans die off over the next 30 years or so, prices will drop off or at least level out for those items, so I always say if you are buying autographs, do it because you treasure the item, not for investment purposes.
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Post by dcshark on Oct 21, 2010 8:45:11 GMT -5
do it because you treasure the item, not for investment purposes. Good advice thanks. I've also found that Tracks in the UK has alot of really nice items. Any thoughts on them as a dealer. Basically I'm looking individual signed items. Whether it's a piece of paper or a signed CD or LP it doesn't matter.
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 21, 2010 21:59:02 GMT -5
do it because you treasure the item, not for investment purposes. Good advice thanks. I've also found that Tracks in the UK has alot of really nice items. Any thoughts on them as a dealer. Basically I'm looking individual signed items. Whether it's a piece of paper or a signed CD or LP it doesn't matter. The value, and asking price of an autograph has a great deal to do with what it is written on. Album covers with all four are the most coveted. A blank piece of paper is the least coveted. Individual signatures are not as desirable but more affordable for the more casual collector. John and George signatures are obviously more valuable as they are now a finite commodity, as are all four on one item. I haven't looked at Tracks in the UK recently, but if the items are autographs, just make sure they come with a certificate of authenticity from an accepted expert in the field like Frank Caiazzo. There are many fake Beatle autographs, and some of them are really, really good fakes. Neil Aspinall, their former road manager during the touring years became quite adept at forging all four Fabs signatures on hundreds of items that were passed out to worshipping fans worldwide in the 1960's. Given the high prices the genuine items command, you want to make sure they are backed up. Any reputable dealer will give you that guarrantee before they take your money. If they don't, move on and look elsewhere. I am not sure where you are located in the world, but in the USA, where I am located, Caiazzo is the accepted expert. If you are somewhere else, contact Frank thru his website and ask him to recommend someone in your neck of the woods who is comparable to him. He probably knows most of the other so-called Beatle autograph experts worldwide since that is his passion.
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Post by Zander on Feb 7, 2012 1:57:37 GMT -5
Why is something with the four autographs only worth more than four autographs with the other period people - eg Neil Aspinall, Mal Evans, Brian Epstein etc?
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Post by lowbasso on Feb 7, 2012 11:34:37 GMT -5
Why is something with the four autographs only worth more than four autographs with the other period people - eg Neil Aspinall, Mal Evans, Brian Epstein etc? Because they are peripheral individuals in the world of The Beatles. It is true in almost any field of interest. The primary individual or group autographs are most valued. For example; If you have a Winston Churchill autograph with his assistant's autograph on the same document, it will be worth less than Churchill's alone on a document. There is no rhyme or reason for the difference, but it is a fact. More of a quandary for me; why are the Fab Four autographs in a book worth significantly less than the Fab Four autographs on an album cover?
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 25, 2013 13:37:38 GMT -5
www.examiner.com/article/memorabilia-expert-says-beatles-pepper-album-could-go-higher-than-200kIt appears a 1967 signed Sgt. Pepper's album will probably be the first Beatles album to sell for more than $100,000 at auction soon. Steve's article on the auction is above. It appears signed albums show no sign of decreasing in value. I don't have an album signed by all four (wish I could afford one), but I do have Paul's autograph (got it myself) on my original Meet The Beatles Capitol album, a fan magazine page from 1964 with all four signatures on a photo collage of all four of them, and my prize memorabilia piece; John's first book "In His Own Write" (1st Edition 1964) signed by all four of them on their 1964 US Summer Tour. That piece has an authentication letter from Frank Caiazzo as well. Not sure what it's worth now, but certainly well into 5 figures I would imagine.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 25, 2013 20:13:01 GMT -5
www.examiner.com/article/memorabilia-expert-says-beatles-pepper-album-could-go-higher-than-200kIt appears a 1967 signed Sgt. Pepper's album will probably be the first Beatles album to sell for more than $100,000 at auction soon. Steve's article on the auction is above. It appears signed albums show no sign of decreasing in value. I don't have an album signed by all four (wish I could afford one), but I do have Paul's autograph (got it myself) on my original Meet The Beatles Capitol album, a fan magazine page from 1964 with all four signatures on a photo collage of all four of them, and my prize memorabilia piece; John's first book "In His Own Write" (1st Edition 1964) signed by all four of them on their 1964 US Summer Tour. That piece has an authentication letter from Frank Caiazzo as well. Not sure what it's worth now, but certainly well into 5 figures I would imagine. What Perry Cox told me (and it's in the first story I wrote) is that the signatures on the album are the best he's ever seen. Be interesting to see how high this goes up.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 31, 2013 2:22:13 GMT -5
According to Steve's latest news;
The signed Pepper album went for $290,500 at auction. Wow!! Talk about the "Next Best Thing To The Beatles" - A signed Stones album probably couldn't even command 1/5 the price at auction the Pepper album reached. Nor a signed Elvis, Sinatra, or M. Jackson album.
The Beatles are just untouchable in so many facets of their success.
Even Mozart or Beethoven autographs don't command those kind of prices!!
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 31, 2013 8:51:56 GMT -5
According to Steve's latest news; The signed Pepper album went for $290,500 at auction. Wow!! Talk about the "Next Best Thing To The Beatles" - A signed Stones album probably couldn't even command 1/5 the price at auction the Pepper album reached. Nor a signed Elvis, Sinatra, or M. Jackson album. The Beatles are just untouchable in so many facets of their success. Even Mozart or Beethoven autographs don't command those kind of prices!! This one had a rare (at least I think it is) endorsement from two well known memorabilia experts. That certainly helped the price. I learned a little about what makes a good signature from the pics of that album.
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 26, 2013 12:52:36 GMT -5
I see that at Julien's Auctions site they are having a Rock Memorabilia auction in NYC on May 18, 2013. And they are auctioning off a 1964 copy of John Lennon's book "In His Own Write" signed by all four Beatles. They indicate on the site it may be a "one-of-a-kind" item. I wrote them to say it isn't because I have one myself, signed by all four Fabs. When I bought mine at a Beatlefest in NJ about 15 years ago I also had Frank Caiazzo authenticate it. Frank told me at the time that he knew of one other that existed out there, so I have been under the impression I had a rare item of which possibly only two existed. Perhaps the other one is the one up for auction on May 18. They are listing it between $10,000-$20,000 but expect it to go for about $30,000 at the auction. I paid $2500 for mine 15 years ago. Will be interested to see what this one goes for...... I think I made a good investment. I will never sell it, but if I croak first, I want my wife to know what she can get for it....
They also have a Please, Please Me album up for auction with all four signatures on the back. Asking between $30,000-$50,000 for that item. Last month a Sgt. Pepper album with four pristine signatures went for $290,000.
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Post by Jim Miller, Toronto Canada on Aug 15, 2016 19:11:39 GMT -5
I'm looking for a Beatles USA 1966 Tour program with 4 fake Beatle signatures done by Neil Aspinall. It's a long story. Can anyone direct me someone who can aid in my search? There must be thousands of these tour books out there signed by Aspinall, Taylor, Evans etc.. Thanks, Jim Miller jimmiller003@gmail.com
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