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Post by joshferrell on Oct 11, 2010 18:20:41 GMT -5
I could swear that I hear John's voice in the party sounds that are played in the background..not sure if it's him or not but to me the voice has the same tone to it..of course it could be Ringo since has a similar tone to his voice..also there's a man talking in a high voice that ,to me,sound like pauls voice.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 12, 2010 4:56:28 GMT -5
I could swear that I hear John's voice in the party sounds that are played in the background..not sure if it's him or not but to me the voice has the same tone to it..of course it could be Ringo since has a similar tone to his voice..also there's a man talking in a high voice that ,to me,sound like pauls voice. Why oh why do so many fans insist on thinking The Beatles were always on solo recordings, or that every other solo song was written with the other Beatles in mind? The Dream Was Over.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 12, 2010 8:35:17 GMT -5
Well there you go, josh! So much for asking, huh? I'll have to put the headphones on sometime and listen, perhaps when GH-1 comes up on Joey's fun Album Side Tourney. I have never read of such a connection but maybe George grabbed a tape of crowd noises form the Revolution 9 closet.
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Post by joshferrell on Oct 12, 2010 13:22:42 GMT -5
well I'm not saying that Paul and John were in the studio with george for this but maybe it could be a tape with them on it from when they were still together that george had for the party sounds..maybe the "carnival of light" or "revolution #9" tapes or something like that
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 12, 2010 16:07:16 GMT -5
well I'm not saying that Paul and John were in the studio with george for this but maybe it could be a tape with them on it from when they were still together that george had for the party sounds..maybe the "carnival of light" or "revolution #9" tapes or something like that I thought it a good question, one I'd never heard anyone mention. That's rare on such Boards. I agree about the possibility of a previous recording and said as much that it could be archival stuff although George might have had legal problems raiding the Beatles vaults even for a conversation tape! Maybe Geoge taped them secretly!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 13, 2010 6:40:51 GMT -5
Well there you go, josh! So much for asking, huh? Well, it's how I honestly feel. I think so many fans are so Beatles-crazy that they instinctively assume all the solo Beatles thought about were the other three Beatles, practically all the time - even late into their own individual lives. These fans want the dream to go on forever, and love to think every other solo song may have a "Beatles reference" in it, or something. JSD - recently you went as far as wondering if, in John's I KNOW, I KNOW, the basic line "And I know it's getting better all the time as we share in each others' minds" was a reference to Paul, or the line from the song GETTING BETTER on PEPPER. I just would bet this was the farthest thought from John's mind. No, I do not know any more definitive than you do, but I'd highly doubt it.
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Post by brothermichael on Oct 14, 2010 23:14:21 GMT -5
These fans want the dream to go on forever, and love to think every other solo song may have a "Beatles reference" in it, or something. Actually, many solo songs do allude to the others. "Soft-Hearted Hana" is about LSD, so the idea makes sense. I've always thought George is doing a great imitation of Paul singing background and harmony on "Blow Away" ("pressures were burst" for instance) from the same album. Or...
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 15, 2010 5:12:05 GMT -5
I've always thought George is doing a great imitation of Paul singing background and harmony on "Blow Away" ("pressures were burst" for instance) from the same album. Or... Keep telling yourself that, if you need to hold onto The Beatles in your own mind. But I think this was the farthest thing from George's thinking in 1979.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 15, 2010 7:34:56 GMT -5
Wow Joe, are you always such a Thread kill? People here are stating their opinions and while you are obviously allowed to do so too, you are also sticking knives in that seem unnecessary to your point.
While I actually agree with you that "Soft Hearted Hana" doesn't have John's or Paul's voices in it, I am not going to belittle anyone who does think that because maybe I am wrong.
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Post by mikev on Oct 15, 2010 7:58:40 GMT -5
I've always thought George is doing a great imitation of Paul singing background and harmony on "Blow Away" ("pressures were burst" for instance) from the same album. Or... Keep telling yourself that, if you need to hold onto The Beatles in your own mind. But I think this was the farthest thing from George's thinking in 1979. I disagree in one way- I think "George Harrison" is his most Beatlesque LP even more so than ATMP. I don't think it was necessarily on his mind to make it sound that way. Love Comes to Everyone: sort of a disco sound, but features Clapton's lead guitar. This one doesn't count-definitely a late 70s sound. Not Guilty: nuff said-even the same type of arrangement. Here Comes the Moon: must we go on? Soft Hearted Hanna: I always thought it sounded like Beatles in the background and at the same time read a fan magazine where an interview with some record guy- he was stating that they always play on each other's records uncreditted. Now I know it's not them- but I can see where somebody could interpret that. Blow Away: very Abbey Roadish. Faster: George's passion for racing in song. While not Beatlesque, it is a fine crated pop song. Dark Sweet Lady, Your Love is Forever, Soft Touch resemble more of Long Long Long than the drawn out drab ballads from George's mid-seventies LPs. If You Believe: Not Beatlesque but definitely has a McCartney sort of feel. One of my favorites. I am biased- this is my favorite George LP along with the first two discs of ATMP (the jam LP is a throwaway-they are not even structured with chord changes-just stay in C).
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 15, 2010 17:03:17 GMT -5
Wow Joe, are you always such a Thread kill? People here are stating their opinions and while you are obviously allowed to do so too, you are also sticking knives in that seem unnecessary to your point. While I actually agree with you that "Soft Hearted Hana" doesn't have John's or Paul's voices in it, I am not going to belittle anyone who does think that because maybe I am wrong. And I might turn out to be wrong in this case as well. Maybe it WAS the Beatles. But I don't think so. Different strokes for different folks though, as far as "why do you do this when 'I' would never do that" is concerned. We don't all act exact the same, do we? I do apologize for coming on so strong here, but I didn't know how else to word my feelings. I do honestly feel sometimes as though some fans are so into "Beatles" that they just naturally assume the solo Beatles were always harking back to those days too. I just don't think it happens nearly as much as people like to think it does. I could have voiced this opinion in a more friendly way though, it's true. But I do resent you suggesting "I'm always a Thread Kill". On the contrary, I think I contribute to a lot of good discussion and keep things interesting, and not always "safe". I guess John Lennon would have been proud, but Paulie McCartney maybe not so much! ;D
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 15, 2010 18:33:34 GMT -5
But I do resent you suggesting "I'm always a Thread Kill". On the contrary, I think I contribute to a lot of good discussion and keep things interesting, and not always "safe". I guess John Lennon would have been proud, but Paulie McCartney maybe not so much! ;D Joe, I was only referring to this Thread! I didn't say, "You are always a Thread kill." I said, "are you always such a Thread kill?" That was a question I was asking, meaning I've not known you to be so acerbic to an initial inquiry. Sure, you, me and about everyone else here has gotten hot under the collar in prolonged discussions but I was surpised to see you kind of rough on josh off the bat. And you are probably right that many of us look too deep into some of these songs for connections between the ex-Beatles but I think it inspires or moves us to think these guys still cared about each other. Some of us like heartwarming stories and will see them where maybe they don't exist! ;D
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