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Post by revolver66 on Sept 5, 2008 0:53:56 GMT -5
I wanna know what you guys and girls think of the Artists that the Fabs signed to their Apple Label. I know Badfinger is really good and a track or two by others but are there any hidden Gems or Classic Albums(not counting the Beatles/Solo or Badfinger mind you)?
I heard that Fleetwood Mac and a few other quality bands were going to sign with Apple but as we know it didn't happen. Also James Taylor became huge(again after leaving Apple). It seems Apple took a chance on Friends or so so talents that couldn't get signed elsewhere..True or False?
Last: Has anyone heard ever Apple Artist?
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Post by vectisfabber on Sept 5, 2008 3:08:02 GMT -5
Mary Hopkin - great voice, and some solid hit singles, but the direction Paul determined for her with Postcard wasn't really the right one - not that she ever really found the right direction for her. Having said that, there is some good stuff on Postcard, and pretty nearly all her singles are worth checking out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2008 5:53:48 GMT -5
There was a bootleg going around of all the artists that were on Apple,i think i have it somewhere.Badfinger were a great band,i don't really know what happened with that band or why the 2 primary members bailed out ....of life....
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Post by OldFred on Sept 5, 2008 6:06:18 GMT -5
There was a bootleg going around of all the artists that were on Apple,i think i have it somewhere.Badfinger were a great band,i don't really know what happened with that band or why the 2 primary members bailed out ....of life.... Badfinger were initially nurtured by the Beatles, Paul and George particularly, but John was not very encouraging to them and wanted Apple to focus more on projects with Yoko. The Beatles sort of lost interest in them and they were left to flounder. Bad business decisions and a crooked manager which left the members financially struggling were some of the factors that led Pete Ham to commit suicide and years later Mike Evans. A final sad irony was that the song writing credits of their biggest song, 'Without You', written by Ham and Evans, were spread out to the other members of the band AND the manager who had nothing to do with the song's creation, an injustice that should have been corrected but as yet has not been. Dan Matovina's excellent book 'Without You: The Tragic Story of Badfinger', gives you the whole story of Badfinger. It's out of print, but worth looking for. www.amazon.com/Without-You-Tragic-Badfinger-minute/dp/0965712222/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1220612384&sr=1-2
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Post by mikev on Sept 5, 2008 6:52:59 GMT -5
Badfinger's first album on the Warner Bros. Label "Wish You Were Here" (yes they beat Floyd to that name) is supposed to be very very good. I have yet to hear it myself.
As for Old Fred's subject: What about Jackie Lomax? He even had the Threetles and Clapton as backing musicians! Somewhere there is a version of Sour Milk Sea with George's guide vocal, featuring the Threetles (P,G,R) and Clapton. I'm not talking about the Cheatleg, in which someone cleverly inserted the Esher version of George's song into an Ooped (lead vocal removed) version of the Jackie Lomax cut.
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Post by mrjinks on Sept 5, 2008 8:19:38 GMT -5
My favorite overlooked Apple disc is the self-titled release from Doris Troy. For Harrison fans, there's multiple George co-writes on the album, and George, Clapton, Ringo & Steven Stills also make appearances. She sings some great bluesy numbers and there's some great guitar work on the disc, too. Aside from one or two cuts, the album is "self-produced", but I wouldn't be surprised if George did it and just let her take the credit.
And regarding Badfinger's non-Apple disc "Wish You Were Here": it's superb. It doesn't have the hit singles that some of their Apple discs do, but it's a stronger album. Listen to it, and listen to Band on The Run, and it's odd to think that one was a smash hit and the other quickly faded into obscurity...
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 5, 2008 9:06:25 GMT -5
Mary Hopkin - great voice, and some solid hit singles, but the direction Paul determined for her with Postcard wasn't really the right one - not that she ever really found the right direction for her. Having said that, there is some good stuff on Postcard, and pretty nearly all her singles are worth checking out. If you go to Mary's website, she's selling two previously unreleased albums, one a compilation of unreleased studio material, the other a vintage live album. The studio album is tremendous. You can get a package deal through her website. They deliver quickly, too, considering they send from the UK.
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Post by JMG on Sept 5, 2008 16:28:32 GMT -5
I'd have to say...
Mary Hopkin. Great talent, should have had a great career but it seems as if she chose not to. Thanks for the info on Mary Hopkin's web site, Steve. I'll have to check that out.
Badfinger. A Beatles sound alike group that I needed to hear (1970- 1972) as I missed The Beatles so very much. Still do. I have Badfinger's Greatest Hits on CD.
And, of course, James Taylor, who went on to have a great career. One of my favorite James Taylor songs...'Don't Let Me Be Lonely Tonight.' I'd like recommend a DVD, 'James Taylor, Live At The Beacon Theatre' (1998).
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 5, 2008 16:57:38 GMT -5
What about Jackie Lomax? He even had the Threetles and Clapton as backing musicians! Somewhere there is a version of Sour Milk Sea with George's guide vocal, featuring the Threetles (P,G,R) and Clapton. I'm not talking about the Cheatleg, in which someone cleverly inserted the Esher version of George's song into an Ooped (lead vocal removed) version of the Jackie Lomax cut. Go here to download the best SourMilk Sea: www.beatlesource.com/bs/mains/audio/sour/sour.htmlThere a a couple of "merged" versions of the Lomax and Harrison-Esher tracks, but this one made by Chazz Avery is REALLY excellent. Quite definitive, and shows that those dopes Lennon and Mccartney couldn't tell a good song written by someone else! BTW, I don't think there is a version of Sour Milk Sea with Harrison's guide vocal - if there is, I'd like to hear it. The two versions I've heard both use the Esher vocal. Anyway, the whole Lomax album IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT is superb. Here's what's there: great songs, George, Ringo, Paul, Eric, Klaus etc (hey, this is really a Beatles album ... almost), and that indiosyncratic Lomax voice. Get it!
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 5, 2008 17:02:28 GMT -5
What a ballsup Paul made of Hopkin's talent. Postcard is a horrible album, full of typical popsy stuff of the time.
However, after Paul tired of Mary Hopkin, and decided to concentrate on someone else's career - viz his own, she DID record a great Apple album: Earth Song Ocean Song. Mary is in great voice (as always), singing songs with a bit of meaning and feeling in them.
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Post by mikev on Sept 6, 2008 1:25:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the "Sour Milk" link Joseph. It seems to be much crisper than the version I have. Nice mix-too bad he didn't have the Esher version we heard other copies of on Anthology-even clearer. What a cut that could have been for Yellow Submarine.
George did record a guide vocal, but unless it was put on acetate or tape, it was probably recorded over.
Also on the Lomax LP, I think all three Beatles only appear on acouple of cuts, but hell, can you imagine boasting that kind of a back up band?
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Post by Sir Frankie Crisp on Sept 6, 2008 8:27:06 GMT -5
In addition to "Sour Milk Sea" I always liked Billy Preston’s album "That's the Way God Planned It." There's a nice R&B vibe throughout and the band is smoking hot. The album jacket offers no information as to who’s performing but I think it’s safe to say that Harrison and Clapton are present. I seem to recall reading somewhere that Keith Richards lends a hand although I can’t be certain. At any rate, it’s a good album and I think I’ll dust it off and give it a spin.
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Sept 8, 2008 10:24:21 GMT -5
Were Splinter on Apple or were they one of George's projects on Dark Horse? They have a really nice sound. Badfinger were one of the best groups ever to be saddled with the tag "New Beatles". Of course they weren't the "New Beatles" (nobody was) but they had 4 fantastic singles ("Come And Get It", "No Matter What", "Day After Day" and "Baby Blue") wrote the classic "Without You", and had a minor hit as the Iveys with "Maybe Tomorrow" (which they later recorded as Badfinger). Several other excellent songs. My favorite album is their first, MAGIC CHRISTIAN MUSIC. I also think Goerge's song "Sour Milk Sea" is outstanding and (along with "Not Guilty") should have been on THE WHITE ALBUM. I have never heard Jackie Lomax's version, but I'm sure it is good.
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Post by mikev on Sept 8, 2008 10:34:32 GMT -5
Splnter was on George's Dark Horse label. I have their first LP, which features George on guitar on a few of the cuts. I would label them as a mix between Badfinger and America.
Speaking of "new Beatles" tags, I just saw a great rockumentary on the Knack on Netflix.
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Sept 8, 2008 11:49:40 GMT -5
The Knack had, in my opinion, one great song: "Your Number Or Your Name". "Good Girls Don't" and "My Sharona" were fun singles. They did a nice cover of The Kinks "The Hard Way". There were a few more decent songs sprinkled throughout. They were deserving of neither the original hype nor the ensuing backlash.
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Post by mikev on Sept 8, 2008 13:03:49 GMT -5
In June of 1979-it was an interesting summer for me...
I was a laborer for building houses in south Jersey. We were building a new home for a Philly DJ, who had a garage full of promo albums. He gave me a promo of Get the Knack and Splinter, as well as a couple of Nesmith albums, the band Night (with Nicky Hopkins) and a few other choice selections.
Later that summer I saw my first real rock concert-Yes at the Spectrum. It was the classic line up. Last week I rented a DVD from Netflix of that VERY SHOW!!!
How many can say they have some sort of recording of the first concert they ever went to? (Deadheads need not reply)
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Post by JCV on Sept 9, 2008 12:10:29 GMT -5
In June of 1979-it was an interesting summer for me... I was a laborer for building houses in south Jersey. We were building a new home for a Philly DJ, who had a garage full of promo albums. He gave me a promo of Get the Knack and Splinter, as well as a couple of Nesmith albums, the band Night (with Nicky Hopkins) and a few other choice selections. Later that summer I saw my first real rock concert-Yes at the Spectrum. It was the classic line up. Last week I rented a DVD from Netflix of that VERY SHOW!!! How many can say they have some sort of recording of the first concert they ever went to? (Deadheads need not reply) That is cool, mikev! Could you pick yourself out of the crowd? JCV
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Post by mikev on Sept 9, 2008 13:39:03 GMT -5
Nah I was in the nose bleeds. I have to say- for an official release the quality was pretty shabby-both the video and audio.
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Post by jimc on Sept 10, 2008 13:04:33 GMT -5
So much to talk about in this thread.
First, I remember the Knack being a fresh sound on the AM radio during my senior year. I was already into Elvis Costello, but you didn't hear him on WLS -- so the Knack represented New Wave to many us Midwestern kids. They were a throwback, fun and simple. Didn't they even have Rickenbacher guitars? I know Tom Petty seemed to always play one.
As for Apple, I like Badfinger (Day After Day, GH on slide? is amazing), and the James Taylor LP. I also have a Chris Hodge 45 (can't remember the name) -- he was a late Apple artist. I have that CD somewhere with the Apple artists -- mine is called the Apple Cart. I'm sure some kind soul on this board traded it to me.
A question about Badfinger: I remember in 1979 they released an album and I was excited because of the Beatle connection. Airwaves was the LP. I seem to remember a single that received a lot of airplay was it "Lost Without Your Love"? Anyway, local radio in Illinois played the track a lot for a couple of months. Then years later I found the Airwaves CD but that track I thought I remembered sounded nothing like the 1979 version, or my memory of it. Does anyway know, was there a drastic remix or something? Or is my memory slipping? (And it's not the Bread song I'm thinking of.)
Just check and it's called Lost Inside Your Love. Still, has it been remixed or something?
Airwaves was the first album without Pete Ham. And Andy Newmark drums on it. He would shortly be working on the 1979 GH LP (or maybe I have the chronology reversed), then on to Double Fantasy.
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Post by jimc on Sept 10, 2008 13:11:23 GMT -5
More: I just copied the Splinter LP The Place I Love from vinyl to iTunes. I bought a turntable to hook to the Mac this summer and that LP was my first transfer. I thought it was in better shape, but it's at least listenable until released on CD. Are you listening, Olivia? George's guitar and production are just beautiful on the LP. If only he could made his records from the period sound like this.
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Post by ChuckE on Sept 12, 2008 11:37:04 GMT -5
First, I remember the Knack being a fresh sound on the AM radio during my senior year. I was already into Elvis Costello, but you didn't hear him on WLS -- so the Knack represented New Wave to many us Midwestern kids. They were a throwback, fun and simple. Didn't they even have Rickenbacher guitars? I know Tom Petty seemed to always play one. I can't answer your "Lost Inside Your Love" question, but at least I can address the q about the Knack's guitars. Bassist Prescott Niles often played a black Rickenbacker 4003 bass, but guitarists Doug Fieger and Berton Averre usually played Fender Strats/Teles and Gibson Les Pauls (respectively), as I recall. I recommend the great "Getting The Knack" DVD, if you have any interest in the Knack at all. www.amazon.com/Getting-Knack/dp/B0002J4ZVE/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1221237127&sr=8-2
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