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Post by acebackwords on Sept 9, 2011 18:51:27 GMT -5
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Post by theman on Sept 11, 2011 8:53:25 GMT -5
I can't believe it has been 10 years. I told myself that I would not watch the media coverage, but, of course, I have. Some of it has been helpful, some of it does reawaken painful memories, 10 years later.
I was lucky to have not lost anyone directly. However, my family is still in NYC, my brother is a firefighter who spent much time dealing with the clean up and loss of his colleagues and buddies.
I think the memorial is well done (at least what I've seen on TV).
I need to go for a walk.
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Post by OldFred on Sept 11, 2011 9:45:29 GMT -5
I was working at my temp job in mid-town Manhattan, very near to the Empire State Building, when the attacks happened. Like everyone else at first we thought it was an accident, then when the second plane hit we knew we were under attack. From the street we could see the towers in the distance covered in black smoke. Then we heard that the south tower collapsed and when I looked in the distance I saw only one tower. Then the second tower fell and the ache in my heart when I saw that they weren't there anymore. The memory of that moment still hurts. Our office let us out early and I got home as best I could, observing the stunned look on people's faces. A couple of days later going back to work there was a dismal rain that hit the city and looking up from my perspective it seemed as if the buildings of New York were weeping for their lost brothers. I've been watching the ceremony at Ground Zero and I've been crying all morning. The grief in my heart will always be there. God bless the families of the victims and the heros of 9/11, may God comfort and ease their pain.
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Post by OldFred on Sept 11, 2011 10:42:26 GMT -5
The latest Fab Fourum podcast highlights Paul's 'Love You Make' documentary, and it's directed by Albert Maysles who with his brother filmed the acclaimed documentary on the Beatles first visit to America. Paul had commissioned Al to direct a documentary on him and his album 'Driving Rain', then the events of 9/11 happened and the documentary took a whole other turn. Mitch Axelrod who conducted the interview for the podcast with Maysles worked at the World Trade Center and he was apprehensive about approaching this documentary, but was relieved to find that it didn't so much dwell on the tragic events of that day but dealt with the healing process that Paul instigated with the Concert for New York City. Paul didn't want a puff piece and told Al to make the film his own. Here's the link to listen to both the podcast of the documentary and the exclusive complete interview with Albert Maysles. www.fabfourum.com/audio-gallery.htmlI don't have Showtime so I've not seen the documentary yet but hope to get the DVD or a copy of it. I hope someone who has seen the documentary will write and give an honest assessment of it.
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Post by mikev on Sept 11, 2011 11:11:07 GMT -5
Well sayne, as one who lost a best friend in tower one, I actually agree with you that this has been an over the top week of way too much news coverage. I mean, 200,000 people perished in the tsunami a few years later- now that is a disaster of epic proportions. But, as we in the NYC area reflect today, there is almost no family in this area that didn't lose a friend or a loved one. I mean for a metropolitan area as big as ours, the trickle effect was still tremendous. I tried to ignore it this morning but my friends called in to remember our departed college mate and I ended up sobbing with them almost as much as the day it happened. Our society and country changed forever on that day, and really only the people in the NYC area and the DC area will ever retain that whole feeling of vunerability. Fortunately for you sayne, LA only got battered by terrorists over the last 10 years in Jack Bauer's world of TV fiction . NYC still remains their punching bag and we know it. But yes, absolutely, we must move on. I'm going to band practice today-looking forward to it.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 11, 2011 11:49:24 GMT -5
This Thread will be closed if it becomes a forum of political diatribe, hate spewing aimed in any direction(including and especially at the victims) and the advancement of conspiracy theories.
sayne got his intended shot in but if this becomes anything other than a "Where were you" Thread it will be closed.
There are a million other places on the Web that welcome political argument and the placing of blame for this event but not this Board and not this Thread.
John S. Damm
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Post by sayne on Sept 11, 2011 12:24:50 GMT -5
Well sayne, as one who lost a best friend in tower one . . . Mikev, I'm glad you exactly understood that I was not questioning YOUR need to mourn.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 11, 2011 16:00:59 GMT -5
I was at a park when I heard the first reports. I went home and was glued to the TV set. It was incredibly hard to watch what was happening. One can only imagine (no pun) what John Lennon would have had to say today.
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Post by OldFred on Sept 11, 2011 19:31:19 GMT -5
Somethings I forgot to add in my previous post, I worked a couple of times at the World Trade Center doing some temp jobs and once went with friends to the Windows on the World restaurant at the top of one of the towers. I have a friend whose husband was suppose to be at a business breakfast at WOTW and was late and was not at the restaurant when the first plane hit. And my sister had a friend whose daughter was going to the World Trade Center for a job interview and a subway delay made her late for her appointment. I also have friends like Mitch Axelrod who lost friends on that terrible day. I still wonder to this day if any of the people I worked with at the Trade Center managed to survive. This sculpture used to sit in the plaza in between the two towers in the Trade Center plaza. It was discovered after the attacks, battered and bruised, but still standing. It now sits in Battery Park at the tip of Manhattan, near where my current job is. I used to pass the sculpture when I worked at the World Trade Center and to see it again at my current job is bitter sweet.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 11, 2011 21:49:33 GMT -5
Fred: That's not the Dakota in the background of the second picture, is it?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 12, 2011 5:40:09 GMT -5
I was at work. We were in the middle of a morning break when someone came into the break room saying that a plane had gone into the WTC. At first we figured it was an accident. Then we heard a SECOND plane crashed into the buildings. Then when I heard a THIRD plane had hit the Pentagon, I figured we were being attacked... it felt like an alien invasion..
My wife at the time was in a NYC taxi on the way to her job very near the WTC, when she saw the planes strike the building right in front of her eyes.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 12, 2011 5:44:39 GMT -5
And sayne - frankly, I found your dismissive remarks insulting to people who lost loved ones. And I see nothing wrong whatsoever in commemorating this day on its "10 Year Anniversary". I think there should be a national holiday for it.
I say this as a person who lost no one on that horrible day.
But a few days ago I did lose my little sister to years of prescription drug abuse. That is what my family and I are currently crying about, so we have not been thinking at all about 9/11.
(But still)...
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Post by OldFred on Sept 12, 2011 7:01:47 GMT -5
Fred: That's not the Dakota in the background of the second picture, is it? Steve: No, Battery Park is at the tip of Manhattan near the South Ferry and Statue of Liberty. The Dakota is on W. 72nd Street and Central Park West. The sculpture is called 'The Sphere' and it's survival through the 9/11 attacks is symbolic and inspirational.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Sept 12, 2011 7:48:46 GMT -5
And sayne - frankly, I found your dismissive remarks insulting to people who lost loved ones. And I see nothing wrong whatsoever in commemorating this day on its "10 Year Anniversary". I think there should be a national holiday for it. I say this as a person who lost no one on that horrible day. But a few days ago I did lose my little sister to years of prescription drug abuse. That is what my family and I are currently crying about, so we have not been thinking at all about 9/11. (But still)... Joe: My condolences on the loss of your sister.
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Post by mikev on Sept 12, 2011 9:14:09 GMT -5
Joe, I'm very sorry for the loss of your sister.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 12, 2011 12:11:50 GMT -5
And sayne - frankly, I found your dismissive remarks insulting to people who lost loved ones. And I see nothing wrong whatsoever in commemorating this day on its "10 Year Anniversary". I think there should be a national holiday for it. I say this as a person who lost no one on that horrible day. But a few days ago I did lose my little sister to years of prescription drug abuse. That is what my family and I are currently crying about, so we have not been thinking at all about 9/11. (But still)... Joe, I am sincerely distraught at your sad news and my thoughts and prayers to you and your family. JSD
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Post by lowbasso on Sept 12, 2011 12:47:32 GMT -5
And sayne - frankly, I found your dismissive remarks insulting to people who lost loved ones. And I see nothing wrong whatsoever in commemorating this day on its "10 Year Anniversary". I think there should be a national holiday for it. I say this as a person who lost no one on that horrible day. But a few days ago I did lose my little sister to years of prescription drug abuse. That is what my family and I are currently crying about, so we have not been thinking at all about 9/11. (But still)... Sorry to hear about your sister Joe. Condolences to your family for your loss.
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Post by OldFred on Sept 12, 2011 17:36:55 GMT -5
Condolences to you Joe. I know how it feels to lose a sister.
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Post by OldFred on Sept 12, 2011 18:32:12 GMT -5
Before going to work this morning I went to Battery Park and took pictures of the World Trade Center Sphere. A ceremony was held yesterday to honor the victims and heros of the 9/11 attacks, with flags representing those whose lives were lost on that day. It was very moving to see the display and the eternal flame in front of the Sphere. If it appears I take the events of 9/11 a little personally, I have my reasons. In 1975 I was an extra in the 1976 remake of 'King Kong' and was part of the crowd that surrounded the body of Kong at the foot of the Towers at the end of the film. I already mentioned that I used to work at the World Trade Center, but also my college, Borough of Manhattan Community College, was just blocks away from the Trade Center, and all the time I attended classes I always had a wonderful close-up view of the Towers. When I worked at the Trade Center I used to take lunch in the Plaza near the Sphere. Sometimes I used to bump into one of my professors as he was either heading to class or going home. My college also had a building that was across the street from World Trade Center 7 which got damaged when that building collapsed. I even have wonderful Monkees memories as Davy Jones and Davy and Micky Dolenz had played concerts in the Plaza as part of the Trade Center's Summer Concert Series. Micky Dolenz and Davy Jones in concert in the World Trade Center Plaza The hotel behind Micky was also destroyed when the Towers fell. My friend Alex used to work in the post office directly across the street from the Trade Center and he was working the day of the attacks, actually seeing the second plane plow into the South Tower. He and his co-workers took refuge inside the post office when they heard an unbelievably horrible and thunderous sound as the South Tower fell. They emerged from the building seeing the rising clouds and Alex said "Where's the South Tower?". When they realized what had happened they made the decision to evacuate the post office before the North Tower fell, and were blocks away and witnessed the North Tower falling. I'm glad Alex made it out safely, another friend unfortunately lost co-workers in the Towers, as did Mitch Axelrod of the Fab Fourum who also lost friends in the attacks. My friends Barry, Moi, Alex (just over my left shoulder) and Carl after one of our 'Jack Benny Show' recreations. A week after the attacks I had to go and see for myself what happened. The police barricades kept the crowds at least a block away from the destruction. Everyone stared in shocked disbelief at the carnage. I saw the burnt corners of the buildings where I used to see my professor as we greeted each other. The smell of burning metal (as well as other things too horrible to think about) hung heavy in the air. Even ten years later I can still remember the smell. There was a shoe shop near where I was and in the display window you could see the shoes caked in dust. I think I did take pictures of that day, I've yet to locate them and I'm kind of afraid to find them. Ten years later, it's difficult to forget what happened and grieves me to remember. But, I feel it's my duty to remember the victims and the heros of that day, it would be a grave disservice to their memory to forget.
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Post by theman on Sept 12, 2011 20:50:28 GMT -5
www.fabfourum.com/audio-gallery.htmlI don't have Showtime so I've not seen the documentary yet but hope to get the DVD or a copy of it. I hope someone who has seen the documentary will write and give an honest assessment of it. I wrote a little about this under the VH1 post, but I think it make Paul look shallow and small. It's no puff piece, I'll tell you that. There are lots of awkward moments that make Paul look like an a**.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 13, 2011 5:49:41 GMT -5
Thanks , folks, for your kind thoughts.
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