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Post by theoak on Sept 25, 2008 10:41:13 GMT -5
Surprisingly, not that many. Ringo nailed it for one album (and only one album). This one ranks possibly in the top-five solo-Beatles albums for me, and I love all of the Ringo co-penned numbers on it:
1. "I'm the Greatest" (John Lennon)
2. "Have You Seen My Baby" (Randy Newman)
3. "Photograph" (George Harrison/Richard Starkey)
4. "Sunshine Life For Me (Sail Away Raymond)" (George Harrison)
5. "You're Sixteen" (Bob Sherman/Dick Sherman) – 2:48 6. "Oh My My" (Vini Poncia/Richard Starkey) – 4:16
7. "Step Lightly" (Richard Starkey) – 3:15
8. "Six O'Clock" (Paul McCartney) – 4:06
9. "Devil Woman" (Vini Poncia/Richard Starkey) – 3:50
10. "You and Me (Babe)" (George Harrison/Mal Evans) – 4:59
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Post by JMG on Sept 25, 2008 15:13:31 GMT -5
I'd place 'Ringo' in my top five solo-Beatles albums. It's the closest we'd ever have to a post-Beatle Beatle album since John, Paul and George participated in the recording, not together, of course but they all had a hand in the record. Still sounds great today.
The other four CD's, not in this order, would be John's 'Walls and Bridges', George's 'All Things Must Pass' and Paul's 'Band on the Run' and maybe 'Tug of War' or 'Ram'. Much like The Beatles albums, this is subject to change but I'd always put 'Ringo' in my top five.
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Post by joeyself on Sept 25, 2008 17:05:15 GMT -5
I think there are BETTER solo albums--ALL THINGS MUST PASS, BAND ON THE RUN, even CHAOS AND CREATION--but there are none that are more ENJOYABLE from start to finish.
If that makes sense.
JcS (who sticks by it even if it doesn't make sense)
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Post by mikev on Sept 25, 2008 19:03:32 GMT -5
3 top 5 hits on "Ringo", plus, If I'm the Greatest was released with full Threetle publicity-it too would have been a top ten hit.
Walls and Bridges ATMP Ram Ringo London Town-what can I say- it reminds me of senior year in HS.
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Post by ursamajor on Sept 25, 2008 21:06:43 GMT -5
I think the Ringo album is an enjoyable listen but ultimately it does nothing for me. Like a Big Mac , tastes good at the time but leaves you feeling empty later.
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Post by gottafeelin on Sept 26, 2008 10:03:25 GMT -5
1. Ram 2. Chaos 3. Ringo 4. All Things Must Pass (the wall of sound production always makes me rate this one lower) 5. Memory Almost Full
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Post by theoak on Sept 26, 2008 10:31:08 GMT -5
1. Imagine 2. Ram 3. All Things Must Pass 4. Ringo 5. Walls & Bridges/Band On The Run
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 26, 2008 11:13:06 GMT -5
I'd rate Imagine, John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band, Ram, Chaos, Band On The Run, All Things Must Pass, and Cloud Nine better than RINGO but it is close as to all of them.
I have Ringo's Time Takes Time only slightly below RINGO as I love that effort by Ringo too.
I know a lot of non-Beatles' people who love RINGO and nothing else by the Fabs or the individual members. If one was into popular music in 1973, it would have been hard not to like this album as it was so hit laden.
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Post by mikev on Sept 26, 2008 11:19:46 GMT -5
I agree with the concept-getting into RINGO is more like getting into an AM-singles collection, where as with solo J,P, & G it is more of an FM album side type of thing.
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Post by ChuckE on Sept 26, 2008 11:52:57 GMT -5
I'm probably the ONLY person who would rate Ringo's RingoRama *higher* than 1973's Ringo... but I'm serious about that! It's not quite the '70s AM radio hitfest, but it's more diverse, with pretty strong songwriting from Ringo and the Roundheads. And it was arguably before Mark Hudson wore out his welcome (though some of you may well disagree with me on that point). Having said that, there are several albums from John, Paul, and even George that I'd rank higher than Ringo's best-selling album of '73... probably 10 or 12 total. NP: Dee Long, "Across The Universe," It Was 40 Years Ago Today (I'm pretty sure this is the guy from Klaatu)
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 26, 2008 18:00:38 GMT -5
I can remember vividly playing RINGO for the first time. My cricket match had been washed out on a Sat morning, so I went to my favorite import record shop to see if anything good had turned up. RINGO had, so a sale, and home to play it.
My expectations were low, so this fine album really impressed. And with the "spirit" of the Fab Four hanging over it, how could it lose? It was a very popular album, and I played it over and over (skipping the awful Six O'Clock every time).
But it WAS a lightweight. My favorite tracks were the B-side to Photograph (Down & Out), Greatest, Raymond, and You & Me (Babe). Heck, listening to RINGO was like drinking light beer. It's good, but lots and lots of drinks are better.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 26, 2008 18:17:07 GMT -5
Amongst the dozens of solo albums, there are many better than RINGO. Here's my selection, in no particular order:
1 All Things Must Pass (always listening to it) 2 JL/POB (a very special album: a great classic) 3 Wonderwall (yes, I'm in a minority - but I just love the whole Wonderwall thing!) 4 Ram (I get bored with Ram easily, mostly around the awful Uncle Albert. But I pull Ram out for a listen more often than I do RINGO.) 5 Living In The Material World (quite underrated imo) 6 Imagine (It's funny but I don't play it often, but enjoy it when I do. A bit of a shallow album, but perhaps I like the "sugar coating".) 7 Unplugged (Paul). A very cool album. Paul is better with smaller audiences, and it shows here. 8 Somewhere in England (the original intended album, that is) 9 Cloud 9 10 Live in Japan (George) 11 Sometime in New York City (a great snapshot of those far-off days. An album of passion and commitment. Another underrated effort.) 12 Traveling Wilburys Volume 1 (well, yeah!)
A round dozen will do!
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Post by jimc on Sept 26, 2008 19:26:41 GMT -5
1. Band on the Run 2. POB 3. Ram 4. Tug of War 5. Flaming Pie 6. ATMP 7. Brainwashed 8. Cloud Nine 9. Memory Almost Full 10. Imagine
In no particular order there...that's a bunch, yet I fully understand what JoeySelf meant!
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Post by Panther on Sept 27, 2008 2:58:24 GMT -5
Here are the solo albums I'd place above Ringo:
John: Plastic Ono Band / Imagine / Walls & Bridges / Double Fantasy
Paul: McCartney / Ram / Band On The Run / Wings Over America / Tug Of War / Pipes of Peace / Flowers In The Dirt / Unplugged
George: All Things Must Pass / Living in the Material World / Cloud 9 / Live in Japan
Ringo: Beaucoups of Blues
As you see, I'm not a huge fan of Ringo. It's certainly his most accessible set, but it's so slight that it just slips away. I really like "Photograph", though.
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Sept 27, 2008 21:20:05 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of RINGO. I made a 100 favorite album list in 2000 and proudly placed this album at #99. The Beatles solo albums I placed ahead of it were (in order): All Things Must Pass, Band On The Run, Tug Of War, Ram, and Imagine. I also had the Travelling Wilburys first album ahead of it and I've always said that a combined Starting Over/Milk And Honey of just John's songs would rank as my favorite Lennon solo effort.
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Sept 27, 2008 21:23:22 GMT -5
[quote author=mccabe board=general thread=308 post=3127 time=1222470038 It was a very popular album, and I played it over and over (skipping the awful Six O'Clock every time). [/quote] You have got to be kidding? ? "Six O'Clock" is among Paul's most melodic solo works! I remember thinking, "Why the heck is he giving this to Ringo and not recording it himself?" It would have been one of the better songs on RED ROSE SPEEDWAY!
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Sept 27, 2008 21:27:34 GMT -5
4 Ram (I get bored with Ram easily, mostly around the awful Uncle Albert. Again, You have got to be kidding? ? RAM may have some flaws, but it is certainly NOT boring. The musical cleverness throughout this album is very Beatleish. Calling "Uncle Albert" awful seems to be a crime against catchy melodies with a lot of changes thrown in throughout! I feel sorry for anyone who finds that boring!
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 27, 2008 23:38:02 GMT -5
You have got to be kidding? ? "Six O'Clock" is among Paul's most melodic solo works! I remember thinking, "Why the heck is he giving this to Ringo and not recording it himself?" It would have been one of the better songs on RED ROSE SPEEDWAY! Kidding? No, but do remember it's all a matter of taste. 6 O'clock melodic - well, it does have a melody, as do most songs. But it's dreary and lyrically nil (IMO, remember). It's because of this Macca might have given it away: not for him this turkey, so give it good ol' Ring. Again, no I'm not. RAM is a funny album. It starts SO well: vocals, playing, lyrics, everything. Especially the vocals - RAM is a tour-de-force of Paul's vocal talents. But that Uncle A/Admiral H is one of the silliest songs ever penned by Macca. I cannot bear lyrical wastelands, no matter how good the melody etc is. And Monkberry is the last interesting song because it's obviously for his kids. (Oh, and just to head off a possible objection: Monkberry's lyrics aren't silly; they're "nonsense" lyrics. There's a difference.) Further, may I say that to call the muscial "cleverness" in RAM "Beatle-ish" is - well, it ain't to these ears.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 27, 2008 23:47:02 GMT -5
------ I've always said that a combined Starting Over/Milk And Honey of just John's songs would rank as my favorite Lennon solo effort. And I've always said that Lennon's work on DF and M&H is pretty awful, largely (there are a couple of good spots). It's so domestic, it's so daytime TV, it's so manufactured (especially M&H). If John had not been killed, history would have judged Double Fantasy quite differently. And hopefully M&H would not have seen the light of day.
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Post by mikev on Sept 28, 2008 11:52:40 GMT -5
Milk and Honey was unfinished live in the studio stuff, much the way Walls and Bridges was-see Menlove Ave.
John's last three studio albums (not counting Rock and roll & M & H)) were more studio polish than "Plastic Ono"-meaning less band "feel", though Walls and Bridges had a bit of a funk vibe.
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Post by jellyzero79 on Sept 28, 2008 17:50:48 GMT -5
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1. JL - Plastic Ono Band 2. JL - Imagine 3. PM - Band On The Run 4. PM - Memory Almost Full 5. PM - Chaos & Creation 6. JL - Walls & Bridges 7. GH - Brainwashed 8. PM - Ram 9. PM - Flaming Pie 10. PM - Red Rose Speedway
I'm sure I'll catch Hell for not naming ALL THINGS MUST PASS but I can'st stand the sound of it. The songs are great, well, a lot of them are - just not a favorite album. I like RED ROSE a lot. Even though it isn't a classic it has a great single "My Love" and some great overlooked tunes like "Big Barn Red" and "Little Lamb Dragonfly".
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Post by jimc on Sept 28, 2008 19:49:49 GMT -5
------ I've always said that a combined Starting Over/Milk And Honey of just John's songs would rank as my favorite Lennon solo effort. And I've always said that Lennon's work on DF and M&H is pretty awful, largely (there are a couple of good spots). It's so domestic, it's so daytime TV, it's so manufactured (especially M&H). If John had not been killed, history would have judged Double Fantasy quite differently. And hopefully M&H would not have seen the light of day. "So daytime TV"...that's a fantastic observation. It's probably been in the back of mind, after all I don't play those discs much, but you've really made me take a hard look at the last of Lennon's work. Compared to much of what was going on at the time, DF and its leftovers are very conventional. I listen to Peter Gabriel (melting), Tusk, Talking Heads, Bowie, Clash, etc. from that era all the time. And McCartney II and GH 1979. I guess it's important to remember that Jack Douglass -- very much in the mainstream and often bland -- was producing.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Sept 28, 2008 22:29:17 GMT -5
Better than "Ringo"? I'd say Imagine, ATMP and Band on the Run. Maybe POB.
That's it.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Sept 28, 2008 22:32:52 GMT -5
I'm probably the ONLY person who would rate Ringo's RingoRama *higher* than 1973's Ringo... but I'm serious about that! It's not quite the '70s AM radio hitfest, but it's more diverse, with pretty strong songwriting from Ringo and the Roundheads. And it was arguably before Mark Hudson wore out his welcome (though some of you may well disagree with me on that point). RingoRama certainly comes close. It's one of my favorite albums by any artist in the last 10 years, its solid, melodic, and rocks in spots. Any easy 3 or so hits if released in 1973. Too often dismissed, just a victim of being released in the wrong decade. I feel bad for those that can't appreciate latter-day (or any-day) Ringo.
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