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Post by acebackwords on Feb 10, 2012 11:15:03 GMT -5
If John Lennon had been nominated for knighthood would he have accepted? Or would they even have nominated him in the first place given that he snubbed the establishment by returning his MBE?
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Post by lowbasso on Feb 10, 2012 11:59:59 GMT -5
If John Lennon had been nominated for knighthood would he have accepted? Or would they even have nominated him in the first place given that he snubbed the establishment by returning his MBE? It has been commented on quite a bit over the years that John quashed his chances of ever getting knighthood by his return of his MBE. Doubt it will ever happen. Can you even get knighthood after you are dead?
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 10, 2012 13:15:00 GMT -5
If John Lennon had been nominated for knighthood would he have accepted? Or would they even have nominated him in the first place given that he snubbed the establishment by returning his MBE? It has been commented on quite a bit over the years that John quashed his chances of ever getting knighthood by his return of his MBE. Doubt it will ever happen. Can you even get knighthood after you are dead? And John chose to leave the Empire and live in the U.S. Mick Jagger was knighted though and he was a famous tax exile. He must have paid current on his taxes or was given amnesty. ;D
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Post by acebackwords on Feb 10, 2012 13:52:20 GMT -5
I guess a more interesting question would be: Would Lennon have WANTED to be knighted?
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Post by kc on Feb 10, 2012 16:11:21 GMT -5
If John Lennon had been nominated for knighthood would he have accepted? Or would they even have nominated him in the first place given that he snubbed the establishment by returning his MBE? It has been commented on quite a bit over the years that John quashed his chances of ever getting knighthood by his return of his MBE. Doubt it will ever happen. Can you even get knighthood after you are dead? No, they are not awarded posthumously.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 10, 2012 17:00:14 GMT -5
I guess a more interesting question would be: Would Lennon have WANTED to be knighted? My guess is no, he wouldn't have wanted that. Or if he accepted he might have pulled a new stunt even more bold than returning the MBE. Like Monty Python at The Concert For George, maybe he walks up to be knighted with his buttocks exposed! ;D
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Post by lowbasso on Feb 10, 2012 19:19:28 GMT -5
It has been commented on quite a bit over the years that John quashed his chances of ever getting knighthood by his return of his MBE. Doubt it will ever happen. Can you even get knighthood after you are dead? No, they are not awarded posthumously. Then no way was he ever going to get it by 1980. The British govt. was still smarting at that point over the return of his MBE. Had he lived then maybe at some later date they might have reconsidered. I love the idea of him showing up to be knighted in the Monty Python waiters outfit that the guys wore at George's Memorial concert! He could have had "Thanks" & "Liz" tatooed on each cheek!! (He would have done it too)
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Post by vectisfabber on Feb 10, 2012 20:06:15 GMT -5
Anyway, what's he got to complain about? He got a bloody airport, didn't he?
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Post by ursamajor on Feb 10, 2012 20:12:13 GMT -5
No I don't think he would have wanted it but it may have irked him to see Paul, Mick and Elton John get knighted.
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Post by scousette on Feb 10, 2012 20:25:47 GMT -5
No I don't think he would have wanted it but it may have irked him to see Paul, Mick and Elton John get knighted. Absolutely
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 10, 2012 21:08:01 GMT -5
No I don't think he would have wanted it but it may have irked him to see Paul, Mick and Elton John get knighted. Absolutely John and Keith Richards would have gotten together and taken the mick out of Paul, Mick and Elton!
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 28, 2012 10:34:26 GMT -5
Better yet, instead of "Sir" how about Saint John Lennon: "] This ought to infuriate some of the "Paul People" here but I thought it was funny
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 28, 2012 12:16:39 GMT -5
Better yet, instead of "Sir" how about Saint John Lennon: "] This ought to infuriate some of the "Paul People" here but I thought it was funny Do you think John is the most popular person in Heaven??? ;D
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 28, 2012 12:21:09 GMT -5
Better yet, instead of "Sir" how about Saint John Lennon: "] This ought to infuriate some of the "Paul People" here but I thought it was funny Do you think John is the most popular person in Heaven??? ;D This is a true story, I have the records to prove it; I was born in Greenwich Village, NYC in 1955 into a Catholic family. The priest at the local church who baptized me was Father John Lennon..... I figured from that point on it was inevitable that I would love The Beatles........
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 28, 2012 12:31:43 GMT -5
Do you think John is the most popular person in Heaven??? ;D This is a true story, I have the records to prove it; I was born in Greenwich Village, NYC in 1955 into a Catholic family. The priest at the local church who baptized me was Father John Lennon..... I figured from that point on it was inevitable that I would love The Beatles........ Wow! I bet Father Lennon got hounded for his name after Feb. 1964!
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 28, 2012 13:08:03 GMT -5
This is a true story, I have the records to prove it; I was born in Greenwich Village, NYC in 1955 into a Catholic family. The priest at the local church who baptized me was Father John Lennon..... I figured from that point on it was inevitable that I would love The Beatles........ Wow! I bet Father Lennon got hounded for his name after Feb. 1964! I heard he was transferred later in 1955 to a diocese in Liverpool, England, then decided to form a rock band and made a lot of money...... ;D Seriously though; that was his name!! I didn't realize it until many years later when I dug out my baptismal record and saw his name on it!!
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Post by scousette on Mar 28, 2012 15:03:17 GMT -5
Wow! I bet Father Lennon got hounded for his name after Feb. 1964! I heard he was transferred later in 1955 to a diocese in Liverpool, England, then decided to form a rock band and made a lot of money...... ;D Seriously though; that was his name!! I didn't realize it until many years later when I dug out my baptismal record and saw his name on it!! ;D
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 28, 2012 16:22:52 GMT -5
Wow! I bet Father Lennon got hounded for his name after Feb. 1964! I heard he was transferred later in 1955 to a diocese in Liverpool, England, then decided to form a rock band and made a lot of money...... ;D Seriously though; that was his name!! I didn't realize it until many years later when I dug out my baptismal record and saw his name on it!! He may have worked with Father McKenzie.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 28, 2012 16:41:07 GMT -5
If John Lennon had been nominated for knighthood would he have accepted? Or would they even have nominated him in the first place given that he snubbed the establishment by returning his MBE? It has been commented on quite a bit over the years that John quashed his chances of ever getting knighthood by his return of his MBE. Doubt it will ever happen. Can you even get knighthood after you are dead? If Mick Jagger can get anyone, anyone can. Well, almost, since neither Keith nor Ringo, who was badder than Keith (sarcasm), have one. And no, you can't be knighted once you die.
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Post by ursamajor on Mar 28, 2012 16:50:44 GMT -5
It has been commented on quite a bit over the years that John quashed his chances of ever getting knighthood by his return of his MBE. Doubt it will ever happen. Can you even get knighthood after you are dead? If Mick Jagger can get anyone, anyone can. Well, almost, since neither Keith nor Ringo, who was badder than Keith (sarcasm), have one. And no, you can't be knighted once you die. I'll scratch your back and you knight mine ... ;D
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Post by winstonoboogie on Mar 31, 2012 10:58:58 GMT -5
It has been commented on quite a bit over the years that John quashed his chances of ever getting knighthood by his return of his MBE. Doubt it will ever happen. Can you even get knighthood after you are dead? If Mick Jagger can get anyone, anyone can. Well, almost, since neither Keith nor Ringo, who was badder than Keith (sarcasm), have one. And no, you can't be knighted once you die. So how did Mick get knighted again? Does he do charity work that we know of? Did he make a sufficient contribution to the PM's re-election fund?
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 31, 2012 11:05:56 GMT -5
If Mick Jagger can get anyone, anyone can. Well, almost, since neither Keith nor Ringo, who was badder than Keith (sarcasm), have one. And no, you can't be knighted once you die. So how did Mick get knighted again? Does he do charity work that we know of? Did he make a sufficient contribution to the PM's re-election fund? He slept with the Queen's Mum, that cheeky rascal.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 31, 2012 15:36:44 GMT -5
So how did Mick get knighted again? Does he do charity work that we know of? Did he make a sufficient contribution to the PM's re-election fund? He slept with the Queen's Mum, that cheeky rascal. Yeah, sympathy for the devil.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Mar 31, 2012 15:38:55 GMT -5
I guess a more interesting question would be: Would Lennon have WANTED to be knighted? I think he would have appreciated it. People mellow as they get older. Not the greatest example, but look at Jane Fonda.
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 31, 2012 16:55:54 GMT -5
He slept with the Queen's Mum, that cheeky rascal. Yeah, sympathy for the devil. LMAO! Seriously, I love Mick, I love The Rolling Stones but I don't know how he became a Knight! Actually, I don't know how any Rock and Roller got such title but, more importantly, I don't know why any Rocker would want such title! It's a sell out to the Establishment.
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Post by ursamajor on Mar 31, 2012 17:38:55 GMT -5
Yeah, sympathy for the devil. LMAO! Seriously, I love Mick, I love The Rolling Stones but I don't know how he became a Knight! Actually, I don't know how any Rock and Roller got such title but, more importantly, I don't know why any Rocker would want such title! It's a sell out to the Establishment. Yes , being accepted by the same people who's parties they didn't want to attend or who wanted to use their fame to boost their profiles/election/re-election campaigns is a sell out.
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 31, 2012 21:22:31 GMT -5
I guess a more interesting question would be: Would Lennon have WANTED to be knighted? I think he would have appreciated it. People mellow as they get older. Not the greatest example, but look at Jane Fonda. Ah, "The Grand Dame of Hanoi"....... Isn't there a statue of her there???
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 4, 2012 9:03:12 GMT -5
My guess is that he became more conservative as he became older (and wiser)--speaking out in support of Reagan over Carter. I think he would have considered it an honour by that time in his life.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on May 4, 2012 9:10:21 GMT -5
Better yet, instead of "Sir" how about Saint John Lennon: "] This ought to infuriate some of the "Paul People" here but I thought it was funny Do you think John is the most popular person in Heaven??? ;D God (represented by St. Peter) at the gates: So you want to get into heaven do you Mr. Lennon? John: I would appreciate consideration for that eventuality--uh, yes. God: What about that business about "imagine there's no heaven"? John: Oh that's Yoko's lyric. Its from "Grapefruit". Have you ever read it. God: No, but I had it for breakfast this morning. John: Yeah, I should have given her offical credit on that song. But I was snake bit by another songwriting partner of mine--McCartney. Have you ever heard of Lennon/McCartney. God: McCartney? Wasn't he with that group Wings? John: That's right. God: Oh yes. Wings--very popular up here. John: Really? God: I tell you what. I'll let you in if you answer one question honestly? John: OK. God: Did you write the melody for 'In My Life"? John (to himself: "You gotta believe he knows the real answer to that"). Uh, what do you think? God: I sent it down from Heaven. I know who I sent it to. John: That's what I thought. God: Oh never mind. What about the lyrics to Eleanor Rigby. Are they yours? John: Did you read Pete Shotten's book? God: Remember I am all knowing and all seeing. John: Like the Maharishi? God: No, not like that giggling fool. I know who wrote every word and every note of every song written by you and Paul. John: There is no one on Earth who has such knowledge, not even Paul! God: Yes there is one person on Earth to whom I have imparted that knowledge. He goes by the name RTP. Now about getting you into Heaven. Let me tell you a secret. Do you promise not to tell? John: Oh brother. Yes. God: You can get into Heaven even if you had some negative things to say about Jesus if you have goodness and love in your heart. If you have a pure heart, you can enter into my kingdom. John: Oh I regret what I said about religion and Jesus and God as a thing what ever it is. God: Huh? No matter. I sense you are pure of heart. You have done good works--bed ins, growing your hair for peace, Day Tripper. You may enter the Kingdom of God. John: Oh, thank you. I'm more impressed with you than I was with Allen Klein. God: Yes well. John: I have a question for you. Is that the real Paul walking around on Earth? God: Don't you know? John: We we had drifted apart by 1966. God: I see. Well, you know how I sent Jesus down to Earth and he died and he rose from the dead? John: Yeah. God: Well, I pulled the same trick with Paul. He was killed in an accident in 1966, but I couldn't let him die at that time. Too popluar. He is actually half man and half God. John: I knew it!
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Post by mikev on May 4, 2012 10:03:02 GMT -5
Do you think John is the most popular person in Heaven??? ;D God (represented by St. Peter) at the gates: So you want to get into heaven do you Mr. Lennon? John: I would appreciate consideration for that eventuality--uh, yes. God: What about that business about "imagine there's no heaven"? John: Oh that's Yoko's lyric. Its from "Grapefruit". Have you ever read it. God: No, but I had it for breakfast this morning. John: Yeah, I should have given her offical credit on that song. But I was snake bit by another songwriting partner of mine--McCartney. Have you ever heard of Lennon/McCartney. God: McCartney? Wasn't he with that group Wings? John: That's right. God: Oh yes. Wings--very popular up here. John: Really? God: I tell you what. I'll let you in if you answer one question honestly? John: OK. God: Did you write the melody for 'In My Life"? John (to himself: "You gotta believe he knows the real answer to that"). Uh, what do you think? God: I sent it down from Heaven. I know who I sent it to. John: That's what I thought. God: Oh never mind. What about the lyrics to Eleanor Rigby. Are they yours? John: Did you read Pete Shotten's book? God: Remember I am all knowing and all seeing. John: Like the Maharishi? God: No, not like that giggling fool. I know who wrote every word and every note of every song written by you and Paul. John: There is no one on Earth who has such knowledge, not even Paul! God: Yes there is on person on Earth to whom I have imparted that knowledge. He goes by the name RTP. Now about getting you into Heaven. Let me tell you a secret. Do you promise not to tell? John: Oh brother. Yes. God: You can get into Heaven even if you had some negative things to say about Jesus if you have goodness and love in your heart. If you have a pure heart, you can enter into my kingdom. John: Oh I regret what I said about religion and Jesus and God as a thing what ever it is. God: Huh? No matter. I sense you are pure of heart. You have done good works--bed ins and growing your hair for peace. You may enter the Kingdom of God. John: Oh, thank you. I'm more impressed with you than I was with Allen Klein. God: Yes well. John: I have a question for you. Is that the real Paul walking around on Earth? God: Don't you know? John: We we had drifted apart by 1966. God: I see. Well, you know how I sent Jesus down to Earth and he died and he rose from the dead? John: Yeah. God: Well, I pulled the same trick with Paul. He was killed in an accident in 1966, but I couldn't let him die at that time. Too popluar. He is actually half man and half God. John: I knew it! that is pretty funny.
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