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Post by vectisfabber on Sept 14, 2011 7:32:49 GMT -5
Welcome to round 15 in the slowest moving internet tournament ever, and that even includes the legendary Star Trek tournament whcih started on the internet in the original TV series and had to wait for the actual internet to be invented before it could finish. I just made that up, by the way, but this is still a pretty slow tournament.
But this bit is quick - 3 titles go out: MMT, Red 62-66, and Live at the BBC. This is what's left. Make your choices, see you at Christmas!
Please Please Me With The Beatles (and Meet The Beatles US) A Hard Day’s Night (UK) Beatles For Sale Help! Rubber Soul Revolver Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band Abbey Road Let It Be 1967-70
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Post by scousette on Sept 14, 2011 10:34:19 GMT -5
HELP!
Time to dispose of this one because I really am sick of looking at it. They're starting to look like primitive Village People in capes, learning the hand movements to "YMCA."
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 14, 2011 11:29:33 GMT -5
Here are the remaining covers for Round 15! Please Please Me With The Beatles (and Meet The Beatles US) A Hard Day’s Night (UK) Beatles For Sale Help! Rubber Soul or Revolver Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band Abbey Road Let It Be 1967-70
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 14, 2011 11:31:43 GMT -5
HELP! Time to dispose of this one because I really am sick of looking at it. They're starting to look like primitive Village People in capes, learning the hand movements to "YMCA." LMAO! I vote HELP! also and I was voting for it earlier until I aimed at MMT. The movie was dazzling in color and the cover is amazingly boring with that YMCA deal going on as scousette noted.
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Post by vectisfabber on Sept 14, 2011 13:00:40 GMT -5
I'm going for Let It Be. It's the only one of the original sleeves which I didn't like when it came out. It's black, it's depressing, and it isn't a group shot - it emphasises the seperateness and non-Beatles-ness of the four of them.
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Post by Blackguard on Sept 14, 2011 13:36:57 GMT -5
My vote is to remove A Hard Days Night. It's very lacking, Black and White pictures on a blue background. It reminds me too much of the the Christmas Album. That one was voted off same should happen to this one.
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Post by mikev on Sept 14, 2011 17:37:26 GMT -5
I'm going for Let It Be. It's the only one of the original sleeves which I didn't like when it came out. It's black, it's depressing, and it isn't a group shot - it emphasises the seperateness and non-Beatles-ness of the four of them. I'm not participating, but I am a big cover art person and I think the Beatles blew it twice with the stairway photo. 1st time with Let it Be, second time with Naked. It should have been called Get Back the second time with the original intended cover art. The song content is an argument for another day.
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Post by coachbk on Sept 14, 2011 18:59:16 GMT -5
HELP
We're down to pretty good stuff now. This one is just good, but never really called any kind of a "classic" like so many of the others that are left.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 14, 2011 20:56:39 GMT -5
I'm going for Let It Be. It's the only one of the original sleeves which I didn't like when it came out. It's black, it's depressing, and it isn't a group shot - it emphasises the seperateness and non-Beatles-ness of the four of them. Your points are valid yet that's what makes the LIB cover appealing to me: it is sad and poignant, perfectly expressing the gulf between the men. Perfect for the times. The original Get Back cover is too peppy, fake band cohesion.
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 14, 2011 21:55:23 GMT -5
I'm going for Let It Be. It's the only one of the original sleeves which I didn't like when it came out. It's black, it's depressing, and it isn't a group shot - it emphasises the seperateness and non-Beatles-ness of the four of them. Your points are valid yet that's what makes the LIB cover appealing to me: it is sad and poignant, perfectly expressing the gulf between the men. Perfect for the times. The original Get Back cover is too peppy, fake band cohesion. The original Get Back cover was the revisit of the first album cover, obviously meant as the last album from the band. I don't think it was supposed to show any kind of cohesion. It was supposed to tell people, hey, we're out leaving. Bye. I like the cover they ended up using. It reflects more the motion picture and the way they looked during the recording. The Get Back cover may have worked better as the Abbey Road cover, if it had been named The End or something more appropriate.
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Post by glenn1966 on Sept 14, 2011 22:51:54 GMT -5
My vote: Still for 1966-1970
Question: Is the Get Back cover the first time a pop artist/group consciously recycled an idea for an LP cover?
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Post by starvinmarvin on Sept 15, 2011 0:06:22 GMT -5
Beatles for sale
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Post by wooltonian on Sept 15, 2011 3:17:25 GMT -5
Funnily enough, it's the three album sleeves linked to films (AHDN, Help!, LIB) that are the weakest here. I will have to go with the flow and vote for Help! The 'semaphore' poses have always left me a bit nonplussed. It isn't particularly visually striking and it lacks the fun element of AHDN.
Isn't it strange how no Beatles album released during the band's lifetime carried the classic Beatles logo - the one with the long 'T'. It has to be said, some of the alternatives were pretty naff....'Help!' being a case in point.
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Post by wooltonian on Sept 15, 2011 6:27:58 GMT -5
Question: Is the Get Back cover the first time a pop artist/group consciously recycled an idea for an LP cover? Another question: Was the 67-70 cover shot for any particular purpose? Was it explicitly done for the 'Get back' project? The photo was obviously taken several months after filming, because John is sporting a bushy beard, so if it was for 'Get back' the timing seems strange, not least because they look so different to the film -- if it wasn't then what was the reason for the photo being taken?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 15, 2011 7:24:53 GMT -5
HELP!
Of what's left, this is the most stark and uninteresting.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 15, 2011 10:05:19 GMT -5
Your points are valid yet that's what makes the LIB cover appealing to me: it is sad and poignant, perfectly expressing the gulf between the men. Perfect for the times. The original Get Back cover is too peppy, fake band cohesion. The original Get Back cover was the revisit of the first album cover, obviously meant as the last album from the band. I don't think it was supposed to show any kind of cohesion. It was supposed to tell people, hey, we're out leaving. Bye. I like the cover they ended up using. It reflects more the motion picture and the way they looked during the recording. The Get Back cover may have worked better as the Abbey Road cover, if it had been named The End or something more appropriate. I just meant they are all there smiling and standing next to each other prentending that they liked each other! And yes, I realize it was a revisit of the PPM cover and all.
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 15, 2011 18:29:43 GMT -5
I just meant they are all there smiling and standing next to each other prentending that they liked each other! And yes, I realize it was a revisit of the PPM cover and all. I may have to stand corrected on my point. The photo was from May 13, 1969 and John didn't say he was leaving until September 20, 1969, so they did not think the shot was for their last album.
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Post by nine on Sept 15, 2011 22:25:59 GMT -5
Question: Is the Get Back cover the first time a pop artist/group consciously recycled an idea for an LP cover? Another question: Was the 67-70 cover shot for any particular purpose? Was it explicitly done for the 'Get back' project? The photo was obviously taken several months after filming, because John is sporting a bushy beard, so if it was for 'Get back' the timing seems strange, not least because they look so different to the film -- if it wasn't then what was the reason for the photo being taken? Perhaps they were the thinking the film would never see the light of day and that only the album would. "I didn't want lousy versions going out, I wanted them to be as was. And I asked Capitol/EMI, or EMI/Capitol whichever, please ask George Martin would he take care of this, so at least he knows what to do. I didn't want some strange guy, you know, making dubbed versions of it and putting it out, because of the versions that were going out [on other compilations] the reissues were pretty poor. I hadn't even listened to them, because I just presumed they'd take the tape as we made it and make a master and put it out again, but they didn't, they'd been screwing around with a few of the early ones. I didn't know that until it was too late. So on that last package where they had Beatles 60... different periods - that one. I made sure. The Red and The Blue, that one. I made sure George Martin was there and I made sure they put that picture which I got Linda [sic] to take of the same pose as their very first album over the Abbey Road... No what is it that... EMI office in some other place, some square? Manchester Square. So I was involved in that respect, in that package making sure that the cover was what I wanted and that the sound was done by George Martin. So I don't mind that one. Checked the remix after he'd done it, it was as good as you could get out of whatever mono recording we did then." John Lennon, 1980 The Lennon Tapes, Andy Peebles
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Post by winstonoboogie on Sept 16, 2011 20:20:03 GMT -5
Another question: Was the 67-70 cover shot for any particular purpose? Was it explicitly done for the 'Get back' project? The photo was obviously taken several months after filming, because John is sporting a bushy beard, so if it was for 'Get back' the timing seems strange, not least because they look so different to the film -- if it wasn't then what was the reason for the photo being taken? Perhaps they were the thinking the film would never see the light of day and that only the album would. "I didn't want lousy versions going out, I wanted them to be as was. And I asked Capitol/EMI, or EMI/Capitol whichever, please ask George Martin would he take care of this, so at least he knows what to do. I didn't want some strange guy, you know, making dubbed versions of it and putting it out, because of the versions that were going out [on other compilations] the reissues were pretty poor. I hadn't even listened to them, because I just presumed they'd take the tape as we made it and make a master and put it out again, but they didn't, they'd been screwing around with a few of the early ones. I didn't know that until it was too late. So on that last package where they had Beatles 60... different periods - that one. I made sure. The Red and The Blue, that one. I made sure George Martin was there and I made sure they put that picture which I got Linda [sic] to take of the same pose as their very first album over the Abbey Road... No what is it that... EMI office in some other place, some square? Manchester Square. So I was involved in that respect, in that package making sure that the cover was what I wanted and that the sound was done by George Martin. So I don't mind that one. Checked the remix after he'd done it, it was as good as you could get out of whatever mono recording we did then." John Lennon, 1980 The Lennon Tapes, Andy Peebles Wow! I never read that specific quote! I had heard that Red and Blue were supposedly approved by the Fabs, but that's the first time I directly read a quote about it! Thanks!
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Post by glenn1966 on Sept 16, 2011 21:10:15 GMT -5
Perhaps they were the thinking the film would never see the light of day and that only the album would. "I didn't want lousy versions going out, I wanted them to be as was. And I asked Capitol/EMI, or EMI/Capitol whichever, please ask George Martin would he take care of this, so at least he knows what to do. I didn't want some strange guy, you know, making dubbed versions of it and putting it out, because of the versions that were going out [on other compilations] the reissues were pretty poor. I hadn't even listened to them, because I just presumed they'd take the tape as we made it and make a master and put it out again, but they didn't, they'd been screwing around with a few of the early ones. I didn't know that until it was too late. So on that last package where they had Beatles 60... different periods - that one. I made sure. The Red and The Blue, that one. I made sure George Martin was there and I made sure they put that picture which I got Linda [sic] to take of the same pose as their very first album over the Abbey Road... No what is it that... EMI office in some other place, some square? Manchester Square. So I was involved in that respect, in that package making sure that the cover was what I wanted and that the sound was done by George Martin. So I don't mind that one. Checked the remix after he'd done it, it was as good as you could get out of whatever mono recording we did then." John Lennon, 1980 The Lennon Tapes, Andy Peebles Wow! I never read that specific quote! I had heard that Red and Blue were supposedly approved by the Fabs, but that's the first time I directly read a quote about it! Thanks! Thanks for that. I never saw that either.
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Post by JCV on Sept 19, 2011 12:26:12 GMT -5
1967-70Yea! I can finally vote for something else! Thank you!! JCV
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Post by Snookeroo on Sept 21, 2011 23:04:36 GMT -5
HELP!
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Post by vectisfabber on Sept 22, 2011 3:23:29 GMT -5
The End.
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