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Post by Joe Karlosi on Jan 4, 2011 6:26:53 GMT -5
All Together Now is a decent kids' singalong. Honey Pie is a clever pastiche. Your Mother Should Know is an atmospheric adult singalong. I love all three and they don't need a free pass. 1.) Why don't people ever understand when someone is merely playing "Devil's Advocate", or is just trying to objectively point out something? YES, I also like all three of these songs myself (especially YOUR MOTHER SHOULD KNOW, which is my fave of these three). I'm just trying to step away and come up with three more silly and lightweight Paul Beatles songs in the MY LOVE vein, as an objective comparison (and c'mon, gang -- MY LOVE is a better song than ALL TOGETHER NOW or HONEY PIE!). Yeah, I know that ATN is a kids' singalong. So was MARY HAD A LITTLE LAMB, and you probably don't give it nearly as many free passes. 2.) Sorry, Vectis, but I'd still suspect you may have felt differently if there had never been something like ALL TOGETHER NOW on a Beatles album, but instead it popped up in 1977 on LONDON TOWN. 3.) Does anyone like Paul's YOU GAVE ME THE ANSWER as much as they adore and accept the similar HONEY PIE, just cuz it's a Beatles song, and of course since The Beatles are sacred and beyond much criticism? 4.) Yep, I do think Beatles fans are always prone to giving all Beatles songs excuses and free passes, where similar -- or even BETTER -- solo songs get bashed because they're not The Beatles.
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Post by RockoRoll on Jan 4, 2011 8:33:53 GMT -5
All Together Now is a decent kids' singalong. Honey Pie is a clever pastiche. Your Mother Should Know is an atmospheric adult singalong. I love all three and they don't need a free pass. 3.) Does anyone like Paul's YOU GAVE ME THE ANSWER as much as they adore and accept the similar HONEY PIE, just cuz it's a Beatles song, and of course since The Beatles are sacred and beyond much criticism? I love *When I'm Sixty-Four*, *Honey Pie*, *You Gave Me The Answer*, or *English Tea*, it doesn't matter whether its Beatles, Wings or Solo. Only Paul can write these 40's British music hall style numbers, they were also a tribute to his dad... But (if I was held at gun point..lol) and had to choose out of the four in order of favourite and most played, First would be *When I'm 64* absolute classic from the best FAB album Sgt Pepper, then *You Gave Me The Anwser*, from the (IMO) best Wings album Venus & Mars, Then *English Tea* from Chao's, and then *Honey Pie* from the White Album... I remember at 16yrs at school, and V & M's had come out, and we all had our guitars in our music class. There were a few of us trying to figure out the opening guitar riffs to *Letting Go* and *Let Me Roll It*....I remember asking the question, which songs from V&M's did they like most, and the singles got mentioned first i.e. LTWTMS, Rock Show, and Letting Go, and one mentioned Magneto as a good rocker, and I'II never forget another two that asked, "what's that song before Magneto, that's retro 1920's with Paul's strange voice like he's singing through a megaphone", What *You Gave Me The Answer*, yeah man love it (they replied?) There you go, we were only teens....
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 4, 2011 8:54:29 GMT -5
GEORGE HARRISON, Side 2JCV JCV, you are losing your "Rocker" credentials with me! I figured you would be sliding across the hardwood floors on your knees, perfect air-guitar solo to "Big Barn Bed!" Mind you, I love GH-2 too but of the two, RRS-1 rocks harder. That once carried weight with the JCV I use to know! ;D We have a tie, equal, neck and neck, the same, inconclusive, a draw, even-Steven, a tie-a-romis.......[Add to]
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Post by RockoRoll on Jan 4, 2011 9:22:12 GMT -5
GEORGE HARRISON, Side 2JCV JCV, you are losing your "Rocker" credentials with me! I figured you would be sliding across the hardwood floors on your knees, perfect air-guitar solo to "Big Barn Bed!" Mind you, I love GH-2 too but of the two, RRS-1 rocks harder. That once carried weight with the JCV I use to know! ;D We have a tie, equal, neck and neck, the same, inconclusive, a draw, even-Steven, a tie-a-romis.......[Add to] I played and listened to GH-2 several times, and I still find the tracks after *Faster*, boring.... Anyway, JSD whilst surfacing the internet, and reading reviews on RRS, they mentioned this album having *prog rock* (lol) influences? Definition en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prog_rockHere's an example Paul evidently perceived that the most hip thing there was to do was to reinvent himself as a... prog rocker! Yeah, I'm not afraid of that word, dammit - prog rock is certainly one of his main inspirations on this album(lol.... ;D..)
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 4, 2011 10:16:05 GMT -5
Progressive Rock!? RRS?! lol!
I hear a very organic, "from the country" sound. I can almost taste the dirt from the Red Rose Speedway as I ride my motorcycle around the dirt track!
Maybe a bit on Side 2 on the instrumental(s) but I mostly hear Paul as nature intended.
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Post by RockoRoll on Jan 4, 2011 10:30:07 GMT -5
Progressive Rock!? RRS?! lol! I hear a very organic, "from the country" sound. I can almost taste the dirt from the Red Rose Speedway as I ride my motorcycle around the dirt track! Maybe a bit on Side 2 on the instrumental(s) but I mostly hear Paul as nature intended. lol, good one JSD.... ;D I read somwhere that, Paul's favourite band at the time was Jethro Tull..... ;D Yeah your right you might hear prog rock influences in such bizarre tracks as the instrumental 'Loup (1st Indian On The Moon)' with its howling rhythm and creepy keyboard and bass breaks? (This was the new Mumbo for him.. ;D..) Or a bit with his big hit *Little Lamb Dragonfly*..... ;D
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Post by acebackwords on Jan 4, 2011 20:17:40 GMT -5
This record--all of RRS, actually--is a great example of what Paul lost when he no longer had to filter his songs through Lennon, Martin and to a lesser extent, Harrison. JcS Yeah, I think thats the best thumb-nail review I've read of RRS. The songs have all of McCartney's charm (and failings) and you can only imagine what the album would've been like with John, George, Ringo and George Martin to elevate them to greatness. Its like a bare-bones Abbey Road minus the greatness. Sigh. But what can I say, I wanted this album so much when I was 17 that I actually tried to shop-lift it (and got busted). So its a sentimental favorite. I can't begin to try and be objective about this one. Its just sort of a time capsule of my screwed up youth.
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Post by joeyself on Jan 4, 2011 20:34:59 GMT -5
This record--all of RRS, actually--is a great example of what Paul lost when he no longer had to filter his songs through Lennon, Martin and to a lesser extent, Harrison. JcS Yeah, I think thats the best thumb-nail review I've read of RRS. The songs have all of McCartney's charm (and failings) and you can only imagine what the album would've been like with John, George, Ringo and George Martin to elevate them to greatness. Its like a bare-bones Abbey Road minus the greatness. 'tis without greatness, that much is sure. Were they still together in 1973, I feel Paul wouldn't have dared to bring junk like "Get On The Right Thing" or "When The Night" to the sessions. That acid tongue of Lennon and the questioning glances of Martin would be enough to keep him from saying "Hey, lads, how about this?" The pity was that either none of the rest of the Wings crew felt able to say something, or that they heard it and said "yeah, let's put this out and charge money for it." JcS
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 4, 2011 20:48:48 GMT -5
George Harrison- a sublime side of music.
Real lame competition. Interesting voting.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Jan 4, 2011 20:50:05 GMT -5
I only see one comment supporting RRS 1 as the better side, yet it has 6 votes. I'd love to hear some more comments as to why people voted this way. I take the voting with a grain of salt. Some have points to prove. Like to read the comments though.
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