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Post by stavros on Feb 25, 2011 18:49:25 GMT -5
Well it's been a while and a couple of Guinnesses was very welcome as I listened and judged the output of two very, very good album sides. My problem with the decision is that both writers have totally played to their strengths on these albums. John let's you know exactly where he's at and he spits and strains those lyrics at you. He's right in your face.The simplicity of the song structures means you can focus on his heavy lyrical content and his way of fitting the tune around the sound of those words. But "Hold On"! Paul is back to his melodic best with "Band on the Run" and his music has more harmonic modulation and variation to it than John's. It's less introspective but more likely to get you to singalong with it. Of course I am making a stereotypical comment here because "For No One" is a tremendously moody song by Paul. Despite it's third person perspective it strikes me as very introspective lyrically and uses just a few chords. I would class "Let it Be" as being in a similar vein. Meanwhile John gave us "Goodnight" or rather he gave it to Ringo but it sounds like Paul may have written it and "Because" is a wonderful melody but the lyrics are rather meaningless as well Because the world is round it turns me on Because the world is round...aaaaaahhhhhh
Macca could have wrote that and been slaughtered for it. But this is why I love the Beatles and never gave up loving them even though they lost something when they split apart. Paul and John were not too far away from each other in their musical palettes. They both loved old fashioned rock 'n roll and could write pop/rock/ballads but would also throw something new and different into the mix on each album. I guess they invented what is now deemed "indie" music. (Feel free to correct that one ) I still can't decide which is better, the pure joy of BOTR, or the deep starkness of POB. They are both excellent but are poles apart in an artistic sense. But as BOTR is running away at the moment I clicked POB. Even though I think both album sides are great for totally different musical reasons.
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Post by joeyself on Feb 25, 2011 22:25:15 GMT -5
Of course I am making a stereotypical comment here because "For No One" is a tremendously moody song by Paul. Despite it's third person perspective it strikes me as very introspective lyrically and uses just a few chords. I would class "Let it Be" as being in a similar vein. "Few chords" is an indefinite measure, and we may think of it differently, but I believe that phrase doesn't fit "For No One." Here's just one take of it I found on-line--saved me a trip downstairs to get my music books. Everything between A and G are covered, albeit with a flat B: MAIN VERSE C / / / Em / / / Am / / / Your day ... | your ...| you find ... C/G / / / Fmaj7 / / / Bb6add9 / / / all her ...| kindness l... | on when ... C / / / / / / / / / longer ...| - | She wakes ... Em / / / Am / / / C/G / / / she makes ... | she takes ... | time and ... Fmaj7 / / / Bb6add9 / / / C / / / feel she ...| hurry; she ... | longer ... C / / / Dm / / / A7 / / / And in her ... | you ... | nothing... Dm / / / / / A7 Dm / / / no sign ... | love ... | tears cried ... A7 / / / Dm / / / / / / A7 no one ... | a love ... |should ... Dm / / / G7sus4 G7 years | | years END ON G7 AFTER YOU HIT G7sus4
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Feb 25, 2011 23:07:48 GMT -5
You wouldn't make that remark if you had seen what I'd originally written! McCabe You obviously want to post it, so post it. Enough with the condescension and coy posts. You're missing the point - I DON"T want to post it. And why? Because I'm a thoughtful bloke. As I say, I edited out the iffy stuff I'd originally written, in the interests of being nice. You should congratulate me, rather than giving me a hard time. McCabe
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Feb 25, 2011 23:17:23 GMT -5
As I step in between the mixing posters. I see now why some don't play these tourneys because let's face it, they are very competitive no matter how we try to intellectualize it. These are geared for fans to vocalize and argue their loyalties. Humans are competitive. We all want our team to win. Nothing to worry about, Mr D. Speaking for myself, I don't care who wins any particular match, so long as we discuss (as I've said over and over). But I'll admit that there IS an attractive feature about these tournaments that I hadn't quite realized before. That is, I can bash solo Fabs' mediocre work. The irony is that a surprising amount of this work from one Fab in particular keeps winning match-ups, so I can keep bashing it. McCabe
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Post by nicole21290 on Feb 26, 2011 0:02:49 GMT -5
As I step in between the mixing posters. I see now why some don't play these tourneys because let's face it, they are very competitive no matter how we try to intellectualize it. These are geared for fans to vocalize and argue their loyalties. Humans are competitive. We all want our team to win. Nothing to worry about, Mr D. Speaking for myself, I don't care who wins any particular match, so long as we discuss (as I've said over and over). But I'll admit that there IS an attractive feature about these tournaments that I hadn't quite realized before. That is, I can bash solo Fabs' mediocre work. The irony is that a surprising amount of this work from one Fab in particular keeps winning match-ups, so I can keep bashing it. McCabe I hadn't noticed...
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Feb 26, 2011 0:22:18 GMT -5
Nothing to worry about, Mr D. Speaking for myself, I don't care who wins any particular match, so long as we discuss (as I've said over and over). But I'll admit that there IS an attractive feature about these tournaments that I hadn't quite realized before. That is, I can bash solo Fabs' mediocre work. The irony is that a surprising amount of this work from one Fab in particular keeps winning match-ups, so I can keep bashing it. McCabe I hadn't noticed... Don't tell lies, Nickie. Tut tut. McCabe
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Post by nicole21290 on Feb 26, 2011 2:19:04 GMT -5
I hadn't noticed... Don't tell lies, Nickie. Tut tut. McCabe I'm as honest as John. And Paul...
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 26, 2011 13:20:28 GMT -5
Don't tell lies, Nickie. Tut tut. McCabe I'm as honest as John. And Paul... ;D LOL, I'm glad you threw in your second line as I thought that you were referring to me by John(no I have no John Lennon complex!) as you were responding to Sir Joe McCabe who was responding to me!
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 26, 2011 13:28:08 GMT -5
Okay, it is time to throw in the towel for POB. We need to shake hands across the aisle and remember that we are really fans of all The Beatles. I had earlier thought that we POB admirers should do what Democrat legislators in Wisconsin and Indiana have done in leaving their respective States to stall the legislative process. But that would be childish(like those Dems) and in addition only result in no votes for POB so our friend RTP could cite that as evidence at mccartney.com that POB is without any support. We must come together, all together now.
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Post by brothermichael on Feb 26, 2011 14:32:48 GMT -5
But that would be childish(like those Dems) No, what's childish is being unwilling to negotiate. None of the Republican actions are surprising really though -- Tea Party thinking in general is childish. Chris Rock recently said that the Tea Party gives him a lot of hope -- he compared it to the last gasps (screaming, whining, destructive behavior) of tired, unruly children before they fall asleep. One minute you have chaos, the next reasonable adults awake after the children have passed out. Bed time, nut wings.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 26, 2011 16:47:53 GMT -5
But that would be childish(like those Dems) No, what's childish is being unwilling to negotiate. None of the Republican actions are surprising really though -- Tea Party thinking in general is childish. Chris Rock recently said that the Tea Party gives him a lot of hope -- he compared it to the last gasps (screaming, whining, destructive behavior) of tired, unruly children before they fall asleep. One minute you have chaos, the next reasonable adults awake after the children have passed out. Bed time, nut wings. So you're saying the POB fans would be justified to boycott the tourney because we have watched Round after Round where the BOTR Army(a/k/a The Macca Mad Hatters) has consistently voted against POB no matter what the challenger because of their deep resentment of the universal critical praise for POB? In other words, the BOTR Army has failed to negotiate and compromise herein so we should take our toys and leave? Okay!
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Post by diego on Feb 26, 2011 20:16:49 GMT -5
Ah, the BOTR Army, you can hear them at every poll voting against Lennon chanting their battle hymn: "Ho, Hey Ho, Ho, Hey Ho"
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Feb 27, 2011 20:57:28 GMT -5
POB
This could have gone either way for me. Two of the best sides ever. I went with POB because while I feel the greatness in BOTR, I feel the genious in POB. I've been going back and forth on this vote all week, it's an apples and oranges thing.
Not that it matters at this point, the votes pretty much decided.
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Post by bayuabuutsman on May 15, 2013 18:31:49 GMT -5
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