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Post by joeyself on Sept 28, 2010 12:54:54 GMT -5
ALL THINGS MUST PASS, Side 1 vs. GOODNIGHT VIENNA, Side 2
ALL THINGS MUST PASS, Side 1
1. "I'd Have You Anytime" (George Harrison/Bob Dylan) 2:56
2. "My Sweet Lord" 4:38
3. "Wah-Wah" 5:35
4. "Isn't It a Pity (Version 1)" 7:08
GOODNIGHT VIENNA, Side 2
1. "All By Myself" (Vini Poncia/Richard Starkey) – 3:21
2. "Call Me" (Richard Starkey) – 4:07
3. "No No Song" (Hoyt Axton/David Jackson) – 2:33
4. "Only You (And You Alone)" (Buck Ram/Ande Rand) – 3:26
5. "Easy For Me" (Harry Nilsson) – 2:20
6. "Goodnight Vienna (Reprise)" (John Lennon) – 1:20
There are a lot of sides in this tournament that I suspect GV 2 could beat, but I'm betting ATMP 1 isn't one of them. We'll see...
JcS
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 28, 2010 13:42:52 GMT -5
Is there even any point in running this match?  Unless someone votes for Ringo just as a lark, it's gotta be ATMP 1. |
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Post by joeyself on Sept 28, 2010 13:48:58 GMT -5
I fear poor Richard may find that happening to him a lot in this tourney...
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 28, 2010 13:53:14 GMT -5
I fear poor Richard may find that happening to him a lot in this tourney... JcS Team up ANY Ringo LP side with either side of Paul's DRIVING RAIN, amd Richie will have my vote!  |
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Post by scousette on Sept 28, 2010 14:04:28 GMT -5
ALL THINGS MUST PASS, Side 1
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 28, 2010 15:59:06 GMT -5
I'll be wanting to rave about ATMP Side 1, AND sides 2, 3, 4 for that matter: that will come later against more worthy opponents.
What can one say about Vienna, side 2? Not much: the whole album was well overrated in 1974, and has not weathered the years well. Here we go:
1. "All By Myself" Poor
2. "Call Me" Poor
3. "No No Song" Cute - well, cute-ish
4. "Only You (And You Alone)" John Lennon was supposed to have recommended that Ringo record this song. Error. Ringo's version is ... poor.
5. "Easy For Me" Hard on the listener, though
6. "Goodnight Vienna (Reprise)" Not bad, but pointless. How can a reprise of a title track be the best song on a side?
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 28, 2010 16:01:25 GMT -5
There are a lot of sides in this tournament that I suspect GV 2 could beat------------------- Quite so: and they'd almost all be Ringo sides! |
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Post by ursamajor on Sept 28, 2010 16:07:54 GMT -5
No contest, it's like Ringo vs Goliath.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 28, 2010 16:29:36 GMT -5
ALL THINGS MUST PASS, Side 1
I am not a huge Goodnight Vienna fan, although the album has its very good moments. There are few of those on Side 2 however. It is not original of me to observe that GV shows the rot already setting in on what was a good formula for the RINGO album.
Ringo got amazingly lazy(and increasingly stoned/drunk) as the 1970's progressed and I get a sense of entitlement from Ringo: his Beatles buddies and other music heavyweights owed him help in making hopefully hit records.
That is just my opinion based upon how bad his albums started getting with the decline starting with GV. Had Ringo been sober and had he had the work ethic he now has then he would be much better off I suspect as to his current place in music where he is reduced to oldies tours and lackluster albums that sell about 800 copies each. Ringo dug too deep of a career hole for himself in the 70's and 80's to really dig out of and be that superstar he was for a few glorious years in the early-mid 1970's.
But he did sober-up and seems remarkably fit for his age so that is a blessing and what really counts.
Having said that, I do not automatically bow and pay homage to ATMP. There is already too much bowing and scraping to this album which is greatly handicapped by Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound" or in this case "Tsunami of Sound." Side 3 is the best Side of ATMP anyway.
I love the Dylan/Harrison song on Side 1 as one really hears the exchange between these two music giants and their initial shyness around each other. MSL is okay if one can forget about the litigation. "Isn't It A Pity" is okay but I get uncomfortable with the seeming mocking of "Hey Jude." When George recorded this song I can't see him paying sincere tribute to Paul in any shape or form even as to the majestic "Jude."
Still ATMP-1 beats GV-2 by a country mile and then some. We might have some Ringo diehards though who will vote for it.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Sept 28, 2010 16:59:43 GMT -5
I'll be wanting to rave about ATMP Side 1, AND sides 2, 3, 4 for that matter: that will come later against more worthy opponents. What can one say about Vienna, side 2? Not much: the whole album was well overrated in 1974, and has not weathered the years well. Here we go: 1. "All By Myself" Poor 2. "Call Me" Poor 3. "No No Song" Cute - well, cute-ish 4. "Only You (And You Alone)" John Lennon was supposed to have recommended that Ringo record this song. Error. Ringo's version is ... poor. 5. "Easy For Me" Hard on the listener, though 6. "Goodnight Vienna (Reprise)" Not bad, but pointless. How can a reprise of a title track be the best song on a side? You know, I must say I'm not readily familiar with all the songs off GOODNIGHT VIENNA as I am with many of Ringo's other albums. I think NO NO SONG and ONLY YOU are two fine "Ringo Songs". The rest of this side is mediocre, though I can deal with ALL BY MYSELF and the GV REPRISE. Joseph, a word about ONLY YOU -- yes, Lennon not only suggested this song for Ringo, but he also did this particular arrangement (if you've ever heard the version with John doing Ringo's lead). I don't like the Ringo version nearly as much as the original, but I disagree in that I think it was a good choice for Ringo and a good rendition. |
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 28, 2010 18:31:55 GMT -5
Joseph, a word about ONLY YOU -- yes, Lennon not only suggested this song for Ringo, but he also did this particular arrangement (if you've ever heard the version with John doing Ringo's lead). I don't like the Ringo version nearly as much as the original, but I disagree in that I think it was a good choice for Ringo and a good rendition. Yes, I've heard John singing lead on this particular arrangement. Only You is not my cup of tea. It's not likely any arrangement will improve it: certainly not this one. To boot, Ringo does not sing it well as far as I'm concerned. Ugh. |
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Post by joeyself on Sept 28, 2010 21:45:34 GMT -5
There are a lot of sides in this tournament that I suspect GV 2 could beat------------------- Quite so: and they'd almost all be Ringo sides! Or either side of WILD LIFE or RED ROSE SPEEDWAY or EXTRA TEXTURE or DARK HORSE or WONDERWALL or SOMETIME IN NEW YORK CITY or WALLS AND BRIDGES--just to name a few. JcS |
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Post by Joseph McCabe on Sept 28, 2010 23:52:09 GMT -5
Quite so: and they'd almost all be Ringo sides! Or either side of WILD LIFE or RED ROSE SPEEDWAY or EXTRA TEXTURE or DARK HORSE or WONDERWALL or SOMETIME IN NEW YORK CITY or WALLS AND BRIDGES--just to name a few. JcS I'll agree that GV2 would trump some of these; for example, Red Rose Speedway. But WONDERWALL - no, sir. I'll hold my fire now, but I'm going to rip and tear to defend that under-appreciated psychedelic masterpiece. ;D McCabe |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2010 3:27:10 GMT -5
ALL THINGS MUST PASS, Side 1
It was a close contest but only one of these albums was a hit.... ;D
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Post by joeyself on Sept 29, 2010 7:18:02 GMT -5
ALL THINGS MUST PASS, Side 1 It was a close contest but only one of these albums was a hit.... ;D Depends on how you define "hit," I think. In the US, GV made it to number 8; in Australia, it reached number 11. Not chart topping, to be sure, but still what I think many would consider to be a "hit" in those markets. In the UK, it stalled at 30. JcS |
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Post by joeyself on Sept 29, 2010 12:00:25 GMT -5
I went for ATMP 1, and without too much thought. I like GV, but prefer the first side. On GV 2, I like "All By Myself" and "Only You" quite a bit; I tired of the novelty of "The No-No Song" when it was a hit in '74. On ATMP 1, it starts and ends with great tunes, and "My Sweet Lord" is good. "Wah-Wah" drags it down, but not enough to lose in this match-up.
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Post by coachbk on Sept 29, 2010 12:04:53 GMT -5
I cast my vote for ATMP side 1 before I even looked at the track listing. Once I looked at the track listing I had no regrets about doing so. ATMP sides 2 and 3 are my favorites, but side 1 is still good. GV is mediocre at best.
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Post by JCV on Sept 29, 2010 12:17:16 GMT -5
George all the way on this one! JCV  |
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Post by theman on Oct 9, 2010 9:46:07 GMT -5
I want to know who voted for Goodnight Vienna 2  Man (or Woman) up!!! |
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 9, 2010 11:37:02 GMT -5
I want to know who voted for Goodnight Vienna 2 Man (or Woman) up!!! LOL! GV was still Ringo's "glory days" so it is obvious someone here yearned for those mostly fun, innocent songs Ringo gave us for RINGO and GV. Ringo's "inglorious days" were soon to hit us and hit us hard |
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Post by stavros on Oct 9, 2010 13:55:02 GMT -5
After much Guinness and cogitation on other album sides I realised I had not voted in this thread. However this vote was entirely down to the Guinness. A sip of the black stuff - a slip of the mouse. And then I realised it was Goodnight Vienna. As it was for me on this thread |
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Oct 9, 2010 21:33:13 GMT -5
ATMP, side 1
...which, song for song, may well be the best post-Beatles album side ever released.
JSD is no doubt shocked I voted against Ringo in his first matchup, but no doubt there will be more of that to come. Never cared for No No Song, a novelty as much as Paul's Let Em In, which I also voted against. Buts what this against Only You? I think Ringo's version is great, no doubt aided by Lennon. Some good stuff hear, but nothing to go against ATMP1, which I would expect to be a monster in this tourney.
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Unless someone votes for Ringo just as a lark, it's gotta be ATMP 1.
