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Post by RockoRoll on Feb 9, 2011 7:27:37 GMT -5
Double banger this round, *Nowhere Man* and *Baby Your A Rich Man* got equal amount of votes, hence both are now gone...... We are now down to the final songs, who will come in fourth place........ Select Your Least FavouriteHey Bulldog Eleanor Rigby Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds All You Need Is Love Video Clip Of The Day
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - The Beatles
From the YS - Film
In November 1966, on the flight back to England after a holiday, McCartney conceived an idea in which an entire album would be role-played, with each of The Beatles assuming an alter-ego in the "Lonely Hearts Club Band", which would then perform a concert in front of an audience. The inspiration is said to have come when roadie Mal Evans innocently asked McCartney what the letters “S” and “P” stood for on the pots on their in-flight meal trays, and McCartney explained it was for salt and pepper. This then led to the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band concept, as well as the song. According to producer George Martin, the song was recorded before the album, but he also said that it started the idea of a concept album based around the main Sgt. Pepper character.
The group's road manager Neil Aspinall suggested the idea of Sergeant Pepper being the compère, as well as the reprise at the end of the album. According to his diaries, Evans may have also contributed to the song. John Lennon attributed the idea for Sgt. Pepper to McCartney, although the song is officially credited to Lennon/McCartney. The song was recorded in Abbey Road's number 2 studio, with Martin producing, and Geoff Emerick engineering. Work on the song started on 1 February 1967, and after three further sessions the recording was complete on 6 March 1967
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Post by RockoRoll on Feb 9, 2011 7:29:44 GMT -5
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 9, 2011 8:17:38 GMT -5
ELEANOR RIGBY
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Post by joeyself on Feb 9, 2011 8:30:45 GMT -5
"Lucy" for me this time.
JcS
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Post by ursamajor on Feb 9, 2011 8:36:37 GMT -5
Tough call but Eleanor Rigby
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Post by scousette on Feb 9, 2011 11:29:42 GMT -5
Eleanor Rigby.
Tough call for me too, but one must go. Sorry, ma'am.
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Post by coachbk on Feb 9, 2011 13:38:16 GMT -5
Gotta go with "Hey Bulldog". It is great fun and an awesome rocker, but the other three songs are more universal and would be great even without rock and roll ever being a popular music form.
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Post by vectisfabber on Feb 9, 2011 18:19:27 GMT -5
I'll go with All you need is love, just to make it interesting. In my book, AYNIL, Lucy, and Eleanor Rigby should all have gone before Nowhere Man and Baby you're a rich man.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Feb 9, 2011 20:52:33 GMT -5
ELEANOR RIGBY for the reasons outlined earler....
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 9, 2011 21:47:10 GMT -5
Eleanor Rigby
At the risk of setting RTP off like an atom bomb, it is interesting that the apparent final three survivors here will be songs that are mostly John Lennon's once Eleanor is buried along with her name.
I wonder what we can read into this?
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Post by wooltonian on Feb 10, 2011 3:16:21 GMT -5
I'm putting 'Hey bulldog' to one side, because it is my overall winner. Out of the other three how on earth do you separate them? They're just a trio of great Beatles classics -- old family favourites that it would seem churlish to differentiate between. Do I prefer chocolate digestives to McVities Hobnobs, steak and kidney pudding to toad-in-the-hole? Do I love my auntie Hilda more than my uncle Stan? I don't know -- don't ask me. Folks, we don't need to do this. Oh, OK then - 'All you need is love'. There. You happy now?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 3:43:50 GMT -5
Hey Bulldog
at least this time i'm not the dissenter ;D
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Post by wooltonian on Feb 10, 2011 5:00:29 GMT -5
Eleanor RigbyAt the risk of setting RTP off like an atom bomb, it is interesting that the apparent final three survivors here will be songs that are mostly John Lennon's once Eleanor is buried along with her name. Yes. I think more and more people are coming to the conclusion that Paul's back catalogue is possibly contaminated by too much cheese. By contrast, John's Beatle hits are still firm favourites on many message boards, forums and with contributors to youtube. Maybe Apple could 'turn this negative into a positive' by collecting all the cheese together and putting it out on one singe (possibly double) album. It could be called something like Paul McCartney - Cheesy Moments and include songs such as: - Ob la di ob la da - Maxwell's silver hammer - Teddy boy - Frog chorus - Mull of Kintryre - The girl is mine - Mary had a little lamb - Another day - Band on the run This strategy could obviously backfire and might cement Paul's reputation and legacy in entirely the wrong way (i.e. as a complete cheesemonger), but it could be worth the risk. Too much cheese is bad for you.
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Post by vectisfabber on Feb 10, 2011 6:03:47 GMT -5
To be paired up with the companion volume John Lennon - Quality Always Tells (In Praise Of The Unpredictable {especially lyrics}) featuring the following gems: What's The New Mary Jane Revolution 9 Dig It Mean Mr Mustard Polythene Pam I Don't Want To Be A Soldier Mama Luck Of The Irish Sunday Bloody Sunday
And there you have it - a pair of albums showing that both of them could churn out memorable melodies coupled with lyrics which might, from time to time, leave something to be desired.
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Post by wooltonian on Feb 10, 2011 6:14:24 GMT -5
To be paired up with the companion volume John Lennon - Quality Always Tells (In Praise Of The Unpredictable {especially lyrics}) featuring the following gems: What's The New Mary Jane Revolution 9 Dig It Mean Mr Mustard Polythene Pam I Don't Want To Be A Soldier Mama Luck Of The Irish Sunday Bloody Sunday And there you have it - a pair of albums showing that both of them could churn out memorable melodies coupled with lyrics which might, from time to time, leave something to be desired. Available in the bargain bucket at all good stores priced £1.99, with buy one get one free.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 10, 2011 16:34:28 GMT -5
Eleanor RigbyAt the risk of setting RTP off like an atom bomb, it is interesting that the apparent final three survivors here will be songs that are mostly John Lennon's once Eleanor is buried along with her name. Yes. I think more and more people are coming to the conclusion that Paul's back catalogue is possibly contaminated by too much cheese. By contrast, John's Beatle hits are still firm favourites on many message boards, forums and with contributors to youtube. I had to wait until I stopped shaking before I posted this. What real evidence do you have of this idea that more people are coming to the conclusion? Where? On this board? Its interesting how people like to draw the world the way THEY see it in their minds. Yeah Paul is cheese, John is steak (fillet mignon). Yes it means John's the one JDS. This whole exercise is meaningless. I think a better indicator is how the songs are selling on i-tunes. I haven't made much of this but Paul's songs have done very well. In addition to his song Hey Jude being the most downloaded Beatles song around the world Paul did very well in the US top 20. This is a list I compiled during the months after the availablity of the Beatles songs. 1. Here Comes the Sun G 2. Let It Be P 3. Blackbird P 4. In My Life J&P 5. Hey Jude P 6. Come Together J 7. With A Little Help From My Friends P 8. While My Guitar Gently Weeps G 9. A Day in the Life J&P 10. I Saw Her Standing There P 11. Eleanor Rigby P 12. Yesterday P 13. Ob La Di, Ob La Da P 14. Something G 15. Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds J 16. Help! J 17. Can't Buy Me Love P 18. A Hard Day's Night J 19. Dear Prudence J 20. When I'm Sixty-Four P I know its limited to the top 20, but no Bulldog, no All You Need, but we do see Eleanor crawling out of her grave. We can become so provincial in our tastes sometimes. Some are ready to write Paul's Beatles songs off to the bargain bin. One of the songs wooltonian wants to put in the dustbin on the cheesy album is actually one of their most popular songs. How about that?
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 10, 2011 16:43:59 GMT -5
What real evidence do you have of this? Its interesting how people like to draw the world the way THEY see it in their minds. Yeah Paul is cheese, John is steak (fillet mignon). Typical commie crapola. This whole exercise is meaningless. I think a better indicator is how the songs are selling on i-tunes. I haven't made much of this but Paul's songs have done very well. In addition to his song Hey Jude being the most downloaded Beatles song around the world Paul did very well in the US top 20. This is a list I compiled during the months after the availablity of the Beatles songs. 1. Here Comes the Sun 2. Let It Be 3. Blackbird 4. In My Life 5. Hey Jude 6. Come Together 7. With A Little Help From My Friends 8. While My Guitar Gently Weeps 9. A Day in the Life 10. I Saw Her Standing There 11. Eleanor Rigby 12. Yesterday 13. Ob La Di, Ob La Da 14. Something 15. Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds 16. Help! 17. Can't Buy Me Love 18. A Hard Day's Night 19. Dear Prudence 20. When I'm Sixty-Four No Bulldog, No All You Need, but we do see Eleanor. We can become so provincial (parochial, catholic) in our tastes sometimes. Some are ready to write Paul's Beatles songs off to the bargain bin. One of the songs wooltonian wants to put in the dustbin on the cheesy album is actually one of their most popular songs. How about that? You're a sore loser. You just cannot accept that John's HEY BULLDOG may win this poll, huh? Oh, sure -- it's a "meaningless exercise", unless Paulie Boy comes out on top, right? Then it's suddenly a "significant exercise". HERE COMES THE SUN is the #1 downloaded song on iTunes, so what are you whining about? I guess that means George is better liked than either John or Paul? It means nothing. Of course most people are not downloading HEY BULLDOG ... when do they ever hear it? But we hear that overplayed ELEANOR RIGBY yawner along with typical bores like YESTERDAY and HEY JUDE every single day on every radio station. Thus, OF COURSE most people will go right for what they already know. Get over this crusade of yours. You'll die without it ever changing for Paul.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 10, 2011 16:53:41 GMT -5
What real evidence do you have of this? Its interesting how people like to draw the world the way THEY see it in their minds. Yeah Paul is cheese, John is steak (fillet mignon). Typical commie crapola. This whole exercise is meaningless. I think a better indicator is how the songs are selling on i-tunes. I haven't made much of this but Paul's songs have done very well. In addition to his song Hey Jude being the most downloaded Beatles song around the world Paul did very well in the US top 20. This is a list I compiled during the months after the availablity of the Beatles songs. 1. Here Comes the Sun 2. Let It Be 3. Blackbird 4. In My Life 5. Hey Jude 6. Come Together 7. With A Little Help From My Friends 8. While My Guitar Gently Weeps 9. A Day in the Life 10. I Saw Her Standing There 11. Eleanor Rigby 12. Yesterday 13. Ob La Di, Ob La Da 14. Something 15. Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds 16. Help! 17. Can't Buy Me Love 18. A Hard Day's Night 19. Dear Prudence 20. When I'm Sixty-Four No Bulldog, No All You Need, but we do see Eleanor. We can become so provincial (parochial, catholic) in our tastes sometimes. Some are ready to write Paul's Beatles songs off to the bargain bin. One of the songs wooltonian wants to put in the dustbin on the cheesy album is actually one of their most popular songs. How about that? You're a sore loser. You just cannot accept that John's HEY BULLDOG may win this poll, huh? Oh, sure -- it's a "meaningless exercise", unless Paulie Boy comes out on top, right? Then it's suddenly a "significant exercise". HERE COMES THE SUN is the #1 downloaded song on iTunes, so what are you whining about? I guess that means George is better liked than either John or Paul? It means nothing. Of course most people are not downloading HEY BULLDOG ... when do they ever hear it? But we hear that overplayed ELEANOR RIGBY yawner along with typical bores like YESTERDAY and HEY JUDE every single day on every radio station. Thus, OF COURSE most people will go right for what they already know. Get over this crusade of yours. You'll die without it ever changing for Paul. Yes. I think more and more people are coming to the conclusion that Paul's back catalogue is possibly contaminated by too much cheese. By contrast, John's Beatle hits are still firm favourites on many message boards, forums and with contributors to youtube.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 10, 2011 16:56:32 GMT -5
What real evidence do you have of this? Its interesting how people like to draw the world the way THEY see it in their minds. Yeah Paul is cheese, John is steak (fillet mignon). Typical commie crapola. This whole exercise is meaningless. I think a better indicator is how the songs are selling on i-tunes. I haven't made much of this but Paul's songs have done very well. In addition to his song Hey Jude being the most downloaded Beatles song around the world Paul did very well in the US top 20. This is a list I compiled during the months after the availablity of the Beatles songs. 1. Here Comes the Sun 2. Let It Be 3. Blackbird 4. In My Life 5. Hey Jude 6. Come Together 7. With A Little Help From My Friends 8. While My Guitar Gently Weeps 9. A Day in the Life 10. I Saw Her Standing There 11. Eleanor Rigby 12. Yesterday 13. Ob La Di, Ob La Da 14. Something 15. Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds 16. Help! 17. Can't Buy Me Love 18. A Hard Day's Night 19. Dear Prudence 20. When I'm Sixty-Four No Bulldog, No All You Need, but we do see Eleanor. We can become so provincial (parochial, catholic) in our tastes sometimes. Some are ready to write Paul's Beatles songs off to the bargain bin. One of the songs wooltonian wants to put in the dustbin on the cheesy album is actually one of their most popular songs. How about that? You're a sore loser. You just cannot accept that John's HEY BULLDOG may win this poll, huh? Oh, sure -- it's a "meaningless exercise", unless Paulie Boy comes out on top, right? Then it's suddenly a "significant exercise". HERE COMES THE SUN is the #1 downloaded song on iTunes, so what are you whining about? I guess that means George is better liked than either John or Paul? It means nothing. Of course most people are not downloading HEY BULLDOG ... when do they ever hear it? But we hear that overplayed ELEANOR RIGBY yawner along with typical bores like YESTERDAY and HEY JUDE every single day on every radio station. Thus, OF COURSE most people will go right for what they already know. Get over this crusade of yours. You'll die without it ever changing for Paul. If that list is even a minor indication, nothing has to change.
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 10, 2011 21:08:36 GMT -5
"In My Life" should have just a "J" next to it. If Paul had a bigger hand in it, we'd get his overwrought voice shouting through it like "Oh! Darling."
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Post by winstonoboogie on Feb 10, 2011 22:32:47 GMT -5
Eleanor RigbyAt the risk of setting RTP off like an atom bomb, it is interesting that the apparent final three survivors here will be songs that are mostly John Lennon's once Eleanor is buried along with her name. Yes. I think more and more people are coming to the conclusion that Paul's back catalogue is possibly contaminated by too much cheese. By contrast, John's Beatle hits are still firm favourites on many message boards, forums and with contributors to youtube. Maybe Apple could 'turn this negative into a positive' by collecting all the cheese together and putting it out on one singe (possibly double) album. It could be called something like Paul McCartney - Cheesy Moments and include songs such as: - Ob la di ob la da - Maxwell's silver hammer - Teddy boy - Frog chorus - Mull of Kintryre - The girl is mine - Mary had a little lamb - Another day - Band on the run This strategy could obviously backfire and might cement Paul's reputation and legacy in entirely the wrong way (i.e. as a complete cheesemonger), but it could be worth the risk. Too much cheese is bad for you. Or alternatively, "behold the power of cheese!" ;D
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Post by brothermichael on Feb 10, 2011 23:29:08 GMT -5
- Band on the run Too much cheese is bad for you. All silliness aside, "Band on the Run"? WTF? There is some consistency to your list ("Mull" doesn't belong there either, IMO), but "Band on the Run" caps the list as a drunken rant.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Feb 11, 2011 7:02:29 GMT -5
Yes. I think more and more people are coming to the conclusion that Paul's back catalogue is possibly contaminated by too much cheese. Well, there's a good reason for that -- BECAUSE IT'S TRUE! ;D But people also are saying John's back catalogue is weak and not worthy of him as a Beatle .. that is happening too. And that bugs you, right? You want to change that?
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 11, 2011 8:57:10 GMT -5
Yes. I think more and more people are coming to the conclusion that Paul's back catalogue is possibly contaminated by too much cheese. Well, there's a good reason for that -- BECAUSE IT'S TRUE! ;D But people also are saying John's back catalogue is weak and not worthy of him as a Beatle .. that is happening too. And that bugs you, right? You want to change that? I don't want to change that. The part I object to is the corollary to that statement-- the "by contrast" reference to Paul. I think that is untrue.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Feb 11, 2011 9:00:43 GMT -5
"In My Life" should have just a "J" next to it. If Paul had a bigger hand in it, we'd get his overwrought voice shouting through it like "Oh! Darling." They sing pretty close harmony throughout most of the song. Its not a hard and fast rule that the composer always sings. Example: Every Little Thing. Besides John wrote the words so he should sing them.
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Post by wooltonian on Feb 12, 2011 4:48:25 GMT -5
- Band on the run Too much cheese is bad for you. All silliness aside, "Band on the Run"? WTF? There is some consistency to your list ("Mull" doesn't belong there either, IMO), but "Band on the Run" caps the list as a drunken rant. No, that's true. I got a bit carried away at that point. BOTR is slightly cheesy (those terrible synths - ewwwww... slight whiff of Cheddar), but doesn't deserve a place on my all-time cheese 'hitlist'. On the other hand, I'm sure there are several glaring examples missing from my list....and I never really got started on 'Granny music'. Anyway, a little cheese is good for you.
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Post by coachbk on Feb 12, 2011 11:55:06 GMT -5
John Lennon and Paul McCartney music with the Beatles is the greatest collection of popular music the world has ever seen and probably ever will see. To be popular and innovative and to be able to appeal to such a broad range of people is extremely difficult to do, but John and Paul pulled it off. Add in the high quality He just didn't have the quantity yet) of George's songs plus Ringo's "Octopus Garden" and you have something nobody else can touch. I really wish more people would celebrate the greatness rather than trying to criticize or elevate one Beatle over the other. If you go beyond Beatles to solo, George surpasses his Beatles work, while with John and Paul, if you pick out their best stuff, they come pretty close to their Beatles production. At the very least all three are among the best of the post 1960's popular song writers. Even Ringo has at least two classics ("It Don't Come Easy" and "Photograph"). I'll choose to celebrate the diversity of the songwriting catalogue of the Beatles, rather than criticize one of more aspect of it!
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Post by John S. Damm on Feb 12, 2011 15:38:53 GMT -5
John Lennon and Paul McCartney music with the Beatles is the greatest collection of popular music the world has ever seen and probably ever will see. To be popular and innovative and to be able to appeal to such a broad range of people is extremely difficult to do, but John and Paul pulled it off. Add in the high quality He just didn't have the quantity yet) of George's songs plus Ringo's "Octopus Garden" and you have something nobody else can touch. I really wish more people would celebrate the greatness rather than trying to criticize or elevate one Beatle over the other. If you go beyond Beatles to solo, George surpasses his Beatles work, while with John and Paul, if you pick out their best stuff, they come pretty close to their Beatles production. At the very least all three are among the best of the post 1960's popular song writers. Even Ringo has at least two classics ("It Don't Come Easy" and "Photograph"). I'll choose to celebrate the diversity of the songwriting catalogue of the Beatles, rather than criticize one of more aspect of it! Noble sentiments coachbk but this is freaking Survivor, Man! Dog-eat-dog where only the strongest survive! Macca goes down in flames in this Survivor!I originally thought that your posting name stood for Coach Bobby Knight and Bobby wouldn't hesitate to literally throw the weaker songs across the floor! Here he is tossing "When I'm 64":
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Post by RockoRoll on Feb 12, 2011 18:58:20 GMT -5
Voting is over for R#10....... ;D
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