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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 6, 2012 5:47:53 GMT -5
If you don't know this song, play it here!
Comment and/or Vote on this Solo Song
4=Great 3=Good 2=Average 1=Crap
"Not Such a Bad Boy" - Paul McCartney, GIVE MY REGARDS TO BROADSTREET (1984)
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 6, 2012 5:49:57 GMT -5
3 - I have always enjoyed this strong rocker, but I think it's got some of the worst and most nonsensical lyrics of any Macca song, ever! -- STILL, however, I think that somehow ADDS to the fun!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 6:35:08 GMT -5
Here are the lyrics including the pre song banter.....
- "Yeah, er...should we try "not such a bad boy?" - "Do we have to?" - "Yeah, this time, alright, one, two, three, four!"
I laughed at the teachers who taught in my school, They kept one armed bandits in the swimming pool. They don't understand me, but they never will, And if was there, I'd be telling them still:
I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more, I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more,
I followed the leader into her tent, But nobody told me that she owed some rent. She wanted to love me, I wanted to go. But she taught me things that I needed to know, you know, you know.
I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more, I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more.
Come on, boys! Ow!
Oh yeah, she wanted to love me, I wanted to go. Well, she taught me things that I needed to know, she know, she know.
I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more, I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more.
I talked to my lawyer, he picked up my bail. Won't someone get me out of this lousy jail? We're both in agreement that crime never pays, And I should be out in a couple of days, hey!
I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more, I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more.
I'm not such a bad boy no more, (no more, no more) I'm not such a bad boy no more, no more, no more
No more, no more, no more.
Ow!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 6:36:18 GMT -5
I like this song and the album it was released on....
I'll give it a 3
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Post by ursamajor on Apr 6, 2012 6:41:37 GMT -5
I really don't like this song at all and re-reading those lyrics is well what can I say .. awful ..
First, the song pretends to be a rocker and it's not, Paul and his band are big pussies in this song.
It's a song about a bad boy that's not a bad boy no more no more. I can't picture Paul ever being a bad boy to begin with and Paul sings it like a pussy like it's a joke.
I will stop right there, this song is a 1 only because 0 is not an option.
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Post by mikev on Apr 6, 2012 7:08:31 GMT -5
The lyrics are pretty lame, but I like the structure and melody of the song. 3
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Post by coachbk on Apr 6, 2012 8:40:57 GMT -5
Isn't the story that Paul had a dream about a Rolling Stones song with this title and then realized there wasn't actually any song with that title so he whipped this one off? I may not have the story exactly right, but I think it was something like that. Anyway the song is a decent rocker and the lyrics don't bother me (though they don't wow me either. This is a 2.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 6, 2012 8:55:19 GMT -5
Isn't the story that Paul had a dream about a Rolling Stones song with this title and then realized there wasn't actually any song with that title so he whipped this one off? I may not have the story exactly right, but I think it was something like that. Anyway the song is a decent rocker and the lyrics don't bother me (though they don't wow me either. This is a 2. I think it was the other new song from "Broadstreet" called "No Values" that Paul dreamed and thought was a Stones' song. I don't know if Mick ever responded to that but I wouldn't want to read it, Jagger was kind of catty to Paul in those days as both were struggling to stay relevant in the 1980's. Mick hated the "No More Lonely Nights" Extended, Fade-out version that ends the film but I hated it too so I cut Mick some slack on that criticism! I give this one a 3 but yeah, those lyrics look awful in print! I'll just never read along to the words when I listen to this song. I am highly critical of Broadstreet now but back in 1984 I was really into the album and even the film. Hey, in those days we saw much less of Paul than we do now. Other than the individual song video(or promos as they were called before MTV), we never saw much of Paul on live TV or otherwise. So Broadstreet gave us a lot of Paul on film.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Apr 6, 2012 10:01:37 GMT -5
I really don't like this song at all and re-reading those lyrics is well what can I say .. awful .. First, the song pretends to be a rocker and it's not, Paul and his band are big pussies in this song. It's a song about a bad boy that's not a bad boy no more no more. I can't picture Paul ever being a bad boy to begin with and Paul sings it like a pussy like it's a joke. I will stop right there, this song is a 1 only because 0 is not an option. That's a very clear cut answer. Any more clear cut and there would be blood all over the place.
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Post by coachbk on Apr 6, 2012 10:43:56 GMT -5
Isn't the story that Paul had a dream about a Rolling Stones song with this title and then realized there wasn't actually any song with that title so he whipped this one off? I may not have the story exactly right, but I think it was something like that. Anyway the song is a decent rocker and the lyrics don't bother me (though they don't wow me either. This is a 2. I think it was the other new song from "Broadstreet" called "No Values" that Paul dreamed and thought was a Stones' song. Yeah you're right! It was the other song. At least I had the right album!
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Apr 6, 2012 10:55:22 GMT -5
I give this a 3, though No Values is better.
The lyrics to this song were written about his time in jail in Tokyo. He was flashing back over his life. The "Bad Boy" idea came from that.
This verse is about the hipocracy of people in authority.
I laughed at the teachers who taught in my school. They kept one armed bandits at the swimming pool. They don't understand me, but they never will, And if was there, I'd be telling them still:
The next verse could be about Yoko and her rumored involvement with the arrest. Its more likely a reference to Yoko showing up at his door in 1966 before she knew John.
I followed the leader into her tent, But nobody told me that she owed some rent. She wanted to love me, I wanted to go. But she taught me things that I needed to know, you know, you know.
Oo oo, she wanted to love me, I wanted to go. Well, she taught me things that I needed to know, she knows, she knows.
Direct reference to the jail experience:
I talked to my lawyer, he picked up my bail. Won't someone get me out of this lousy jail? We're both in agreement that crime never pays, And I should be out in a couple of days, hey!
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 6, 2012 11:05:25 GMT -5
RTP, I am glad that you threw in your sentence "could be" as it concerns Yoko! I almost fell off my chair until I saw the "could be" bit.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Apr 6, 2012 12:22:48 GMT -5
RTP, I am glad that you threw in your sentence "could be" as it concerns Yoko! I almost fell off my chair until I saw the "could be" bit. Maybe in that song, in that verse, Paul is telling us something happened between him and Yoko at that first meeting. It could just be about his first sexual incounter with a prostitute.
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Post by acebackwords on Apr 6, 2012 15:06:24 GMT -5
I really don't like this song at all and re-reading those lyrics is well what can I say .. awful .. First, the song pretends to be a rocker and it's not, Paul and his band are big pussies in this song. It's a song about a bad boy that's not a bad boy no more no more. I can't picture Paul ever being a bad boy to begin with and Paul sings it like a pussy like it's a joke. I will stop right there, this song is a 1 only because 0 is not an option. What Ursamajor said. Another one of those paint-by-number songs that Paul could crank out by the dozen. It was probably fun for Paul to play and sing, and its harmless. But geez, talk about forgetable.
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Post by Snookeroo on Apr 6, 2012 15:36:40 GMT -5
Love it.
But we need the clip from the movie. Ringo is, well, pure Ringo in the beginning of this scene. He steals it.
How many musicians has Paul worked with since the Beatles that would say, "do we have to" after Paul suggests running through a certain song? I also wonder if that was scripted that way or if Ringo was just on fire. Here's the clip:
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Post by Snookeroo on Apr 6, 2012 15:50:06 GMT -5
Watch at the end of the clip I posted above. Paul says to Ringo "great that"(pointing) - and Ringo says, "yeah I know, it's about time you noticed".
That's the Beatles magic. I can't explain it.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 6, 2012 17:00:43 GMT -5
I give this a 3, though No Values is better. The lyrics to this song were written about his time in jail in Tokyo. He was flashing back over his life. The "Bad Boy" idea came from that. This verse is about the hipocracy of people in authority. I laughed at the teachers who taught in my school. They kept one armed bandits at the swimming pool. They don't understand me, but they never will, And if was there, I'd be telling them still: The next verse could be about Yoko and her rumored involvement with the arrest. Its more likely a reference to Yoko showing up at his door in 1966 before she knew John. I followed the leader into her tent, But nobody told me that she owed some rent. She wanted to love me, I wanted to go. But she taught me things that I needed to know, you know, you know. Oo oo, she wanted to love me, I wanted to go. Well, she taught me things that I needed to know, she knows, she knows. Direct reference to the jail experience: I talked to my lawyer, he picked up my bail. Won't someone get me out of this lousy jail? We're both in agreement that crime never pays, And I should be out in a couple of days, hey! Did Paul himself actually verify ANY of this, RTP...? Can't you just accept that sometimes Paul simply writes lyrical garbage that doesn't mean anything specific and isn't about anything? You watch interviews... plenty of time Paul admits he gets a tune and then has to come up with any words to fit the tune. And why oh why do fans like to believe that the ex-Beatles were constantly drawing on "Beatle-related" old moments for their inspiration? I don't think 1966 or Yoko were anywhere near Paul's mind when he penned this song.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 18:00:13 GMT -5
I give this a 3, though No Values is better. The lyrics to this song were written about his time in jail in Tokyo. He was flashing back over his life. The "Bad Boy" idea came from that. This verse is about the hipocracy of people in authority. I laughed at the teachers who taught in my school. They kept one armed bandits at the swimming pool. They don't understand me, but they never will, And if was there, I'd be telling them still: The next verse could be about Yoko and her rumored involvement with the arrest. Its more likely a reference to Yoko showing up at his door in 1966 before she knew John. I followed the leader into her tent, But nobody told me that she owed some rent. She wanted to love me, I wanted to go. But she taught me things that I needed to know, you know, you know. Oo oo, she wanted to love me, I wanted to go. Well, she taught me things that I needed to know, she knows, she knows. Direct reference to the jail experience: I talked to my lawyer, he picked up my bail. Won't someone get me out of this lousy jail? We're both in agreement that crime never pays, And I should be out in a couple of days, hey! If the first verse is about hypocrisy then it's very poorly expressed.. i don't think the 2nd verse is about Yoko offering Paul her Sushi before she offered it to John... The 3rd verse is definitely about getting out of Jail
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Post by ursamajor on Apr 6, 2012 18:05:24 GMT -5
I really don't like this song at all and re-reading those lyrics is well what can I say .. awful .. First, the song pretends to be a rocker and it's not, Paul and his band are big pussies in this song. It's a song about a bad boy that's not a bad boy no more no more. I can't picture Paul ever being a bad boy to begin with and Paul sings it like a pussy like it's a joke. I will stop right there, this song is a 1 only because 0 is not an option. That's a very clear cut answer. Any more clear cut and there would be blood all over the place. No More Lonely Nights was such a great song, a worldwide smash so I had high hopes for the other two new songs on Broad St but neither lived up to my expectations. Ironically, I love the new version of The Long and Winding Road and as sacralegious as this may be, I think it is the best version of this song, even the radio station I listened to back then in Sydney played it.
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Post by kc on Apr 6, 2012 18:41:07 GMT -5
I enjoy the first ten seconds of the instrumental introduction to this song very much. It suggests something really good is to follow, but, unfortunately, it doesn't arrive. Only 2 (average) from me.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Apr 6, 2012 22:08:16 GMT -5
That's a very clear cut answer. Any more clear cut and there would be blood all over the place. No More Lonely Nights was such a great song, a worldwide smash so I had high hopes for the other two new songs on Broad St but neither lived up to my expectations. Ironically, I love the new version of The Long and Winding Road and as sacralegious as this may be, I think it is the best version of this song, even the radio station I listened to back then in Sydney played it. Yes, that album was very popular at the time. It was No. 1 in the UK and had many good cuts.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 8, 2012 19:05:56 GMT -5
3.5
I really like this song, it loses a bit from the lousy lyrics but I tend to overlook them when I listen to Paul.
Did I really give this song the highest grade of any of the posters?
Gee, RTP, why are you so tough on this guy? (by the way, your analysis of the lyrics was...er...interesting. Yoko, huh...)
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Post by vectisfabber on Apr 9, 2012 17:22:20 GMT -5
Marginally better than No Values, this is pretty indifferent stuff - a mass-produced rocker with rubbish lyrics and no originality, and the horrible "No more, no more" echo line which is "enhanced" with some of Linda's most intrusive ever backing vocals. Songs like this do McCartney no credit. Fancy filming it as if it was worth it! 2.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 9, 2012 17:36:45 GMT -5
Oh, I think it was worth filming it. This performance segment is probably the highlight of BROADSTREET for me. Not that that's saying much.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 9, 2012 21:16:35 GMT -5
Alright finally a 4.0. We've had a drought with the Karlosi's Solo Songs here for a while.
I love this. This, No Values and So Bad are definitely the highlights to the album and the movie. I do not know why anyone would criticize the lyrics. It follows the singer from childhood (I'm not sure what a slot machine would be doing at a pool, the one-arnmed bandit must be something else), through young adulthood (most likely Paul's days playing in the strip clubs), and into the current time period (Paul's arrest in Japan).
I love the lines about talking to his lawyer, "We're both in agreement that crime never pays, and I should be out in a couple of days". Apparently he dropped his bad boy ways while in jail.
The theme is returned to on Flaming Pie, when he and Steve Miller sing I Used to be Bad.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Apr 10, 2012 13:04:42 GMT -5
I give this a 3, though No Values is better. The lyrics to this song were written about his time in jail in Tokyo. He was flashing back over his life. The "Bad Boy" idea came from that. This verse is about the hipocracy of people in authority. I laughed at the teachers who taught in my school. They kept one armed bandits at the swimming pool. They don't understand me, but they never will, And if was there, I'd be telling them still: The next verse could be about Yoko and her rumored involvement with the arrest. Its more likely a reference to Yoko showing up at his door in 1966 before she knew John. I followed the leader into her tent, But nobody told me that she owed some rent. She wanted to love me, I wanted to go. But she taught me things that I needed to know, you know, you know. Oo oo, she wanted to love me, I wanted to go. Well, she taught me things that I needed to know, she knows, she knows. Direct reference to the jail experience: I talked to my lawyer, he picked up my bail. Won't someone get me out of this lousy jail? We're both in agreement that crime never pays, And I should be out in a couple of days, hey! Did Paul himself actually verify ANY of this, RTP...? Can't you just accept that sometimes Paul simply writes lyrical garbage that doesn't mean anything specific and isn't about anything? You watch interviews... plenty of time Paul admits he gets a tune and then has to come up with any words to fit the tune. And why oh why do fans like to believe that the ex-Beatles were constantly drawing on "Beatle-related" old moments for their inspiration? I don't think 1966 or Yoko were anywhere near Paul's mind when he penned this song. I admit these lyrics were made up without much thought--kind of random stream of consciousness or is it stream of conscience. I was having fun with my interpretation of the song. Yes I admit he writes sometimes without a definite meaning in mind. I do think the jail verse was about Tokyo.
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Post by ReturnToPepperland on Apr 10, 2012 13:09:05 GMT -5
3.5 I really like this song, it loses a bit from the lousy lyrics but I tend to overlook them when I listen to Paul. Did I really give this song the highest grade of any of the posters? Gee, RTP, why are you so tough on this guy? (by the way, your analysis of the lyrics was...er...interesting. Yoko, huh...) My analysis of the lyrics was a bit tongue in cheek. But you're right, I have to let up on the guy a bit.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 10, 2012 19:48:34 GMT -5
Marginally better than No Values, this is pretty indifferent stuff - a mass-produced rocker with rubbish lyrics and no originality, and the horrible "No more, no more" echo line which is "enhanced" with some of Linda's most intrusive ever backing vocals. Songs like this do McCartney no credit. Fancy filming it as if it was worth it! 2. I like that no more ending, and that little yelp! I don't sense a mass-produced rock or corporate rock thing on this song.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 10, 2012 19:51:46 GMT -5
Alright finally a 4.0. We've had a drought with the Karlosi's Solo Songs here for a while. I love this. This, No Values and So Bad are definitely the highlights to the album and the movie. I do not know why anyone would criticize the lyrics. It follows the singer from childhood (I'm not sure what a slot machine would be doing at a pool, the one-arnmed bandit must be something else), through young adulthood (most likely Paul's days playing in the strip clubs), and into the current time period (Paul's arrest in Japan). I love the lines about talking to his lawyer, "We're both in agreement that crime never pays, and I should be out in a couple of days". Apparently he dropped his bad boy ways while in jail. The theme is returned to on Flaming Pie, when he and Steve Miller sing I Used to be Bad. I followed the leader, into her tent, nobody told me, that she owed some rent? Ecch. Also, it's strange that he refers to himslef as a "boy" at this point. I think with better lyrics this could have been a hit at the time.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 11, 2012 19:21:42 GMT -5
Alright finally a 4.0. We've had a drought with the Karlosi's Solo Songs here for a while. I love this. This, No Values and So Bad are definitely the highlights to the album and the movie. I do not know why anyone would criticize the lyrics. It follows the singer from childhood (I'm not sure what a slot machine would be doing at a pool, the one-arnmed bandit must be something else), through young adulthood (most likely Paul's days playing in the strip clubs), and into the current time period (Paul's arrest in Japan). I love the lines about talking to his lawyer, "We're both in agreement that crime never pays, and I should be out in a couple of days". Apparently he dropped his bad boy ways while in jail. The theme is returned to on Flaming Pie, when he and Steve Miller sing I Used to be Bad. I followed the leader, into her tent, nobody told me, that she owed some rent? Ecch. Also, it's strange that he refers to himslef as a "boy" at this point. I think with better lyrics this could have been a hit at the time. I don't see what so bad about those lyrics. He thought he had a real date but she asked him for money. Regardless, I said somewhere here recently, I don't mind bad lyrics if the song rocks. I may make that my motto.
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