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Post by Steve Marinucci on Oct 18, 2008 10:05:13 GMT -5
Stole this idea from a mailing list, but I thought it was interesting.
My mom was OK about them in 1964, but I remember my dad criticizing them when we were watching the first Ed Sullivan Show.
Six months later, he saw the Stones and became a Beatles fan. True story.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Oct 18, 2008 19:35:32 GMT -5
My parents (my dad, especially ) thought it was "noise", although my mom did like "All My loving" and "Yesterday" (Naturally! ) However, in my later years, Dad mellowed somewhat. They even recorded that Beatles special in 2000 or 2001 (where they showed clips and various talking heads praising the group), and my dad was disappointed that it was clips and not a full performance! I will also never forget the look of shock on my mom's face when she told me John Lennon had been killed....
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Post by sayne on Oct 18, 2008 20:01:27 GMT -5
My mom was cool with them. She took me to see them in 1965. My dad disapproved of them, especially after they "snubbed" Imelda Marcos.
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Post by JMG on Oct 18, 2008 20:28:13 GMT -5
My Dad (born August 30, 1914) was indifferent toward The Beatles as he was toward most things except for automobiles and sports, especially the Green Bay Packers. Musically, he was into Big Bands of the 30s and 40s, some Jazz and some Country Western. On the other hand, my Mom (born September 30, 1914) was very fond of The Beatles, especially Paul McCartney and she loved 'Yesterday'. She was also a big Frank Sinatra and Nat King Cole fan. Like me, she was a big Chicago Bear fan which made for some interesting Autumn Sunday afternoons when the Bears played the Packers.
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Post by OldFred on Oct 18, 2008 21:09:20 GMT -5
My parents weren't that crazy about them at the time. They didn't understand it all. After John Lennon's death and they read all the newspaper reports about his life and career they appreciated his and The Beatles importance to music and art a little better.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2008 3:57:01 GMT -5
Thats a good question,i've got no idea what my old man thought of them and he's no longer around so i can't ask him.
My Mother thought they were ok but i know she was critical of Paul because when i was learning music i used to play a lot of Paul's stuff and she used to criticise Paul and tell me to learn someone else's songs...
Did i listen.......No
I still play mostly Paul songs.....
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Post by lowbasso on Oct 19, 2008 11:51:13 GMT -5
My parents were the ones who dragged me in ( I was 8 years old) to watch the "funny guys from England with the long hair" on Ed Sullivan that fateful February night in 1964. I was able to comb my hair forward the next day, but they wouldn't let me buy Beatle Boots as they said they would damage my toes since the front of the shoe was so pointed. But they let me buy Beatle 45's as they came out as well as getting me my first Beatle album that Christmas (Meet The Beatles), which now has Paul's autograph scribbled across the front which I got when I personally met him at Carnegie Hall at the dress rehearsal of his Liverpool Oratorio when it premiered. (I had an "in" to attend the dress) My mother did draw the line however when I brought home a 45' of Bob Dylan's single "Lay, Lady Lay" and when she heard the lyrics as I was blasting the song on my record player, she said I could not play that song in her house anymore.... I never forgave them for not taking me to Shea Stadium in 1965 when tickets were a mere $4.50 to see The Beatles. Years later when my mother retired, and I gave her as a gift, tickets to hear Frank Sinatra at Carnegie Hall (she had grown up in Brooklyn and was an original "Bobbysoxer" who cut school to see Sinatra at The Paramount), I kidded her that I was "letting" her see Sinatra, but I never got to see The Beatles back in '65!! And the Sinatra tickets ran me $150.00/ticket....
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 19, 2008 12:16:48 GMT -5
My mother took me to see HELP! (I can barely recall it so I must have been very young) and to the best of my knowledge, at the time she wasn't a big Beatles fan at all (she was more of an "Elvis Person"). But I had the 45s, I had albums, I watched the TV show -- I even have a photo somewhere of mom holding me on her lap and she's wearing a Ringo Halloween mask for a laugh (not as devastating as it reads). I'm going to call my mother later in Florida, and I think I'll ask her specifically what she thinks. I recall one time when I was a teenager and I brought up The Beatles and she joked: "I don't care about your ugly Beatles!" (to her, Elvis was gorgeous). I also watched Elvis with her in 1973 for his "Aloha From Hawaii" satellite TV special. I recall, at age 11, being amazed at how the girls in the audience freaked any time Presley made even the slightest movement while singing "Fever".
My mom had two younger female cousins in the Beatlemania days (I had a crush on one of them even as a child) who got me into The Fabs. They were sisters and one of them loved George, the other loved Ringo. Whenever I'd visit them, I'd freak out and play all their records. They saw the Beatles at Shea, had all their U.S. albums up to 1966 (No REVOLVER), some toys and tour books. I have a photo of me (no date - I'm guessing I am age 5 or 6) in their basement with my Beatles hair combed down and holding their HELP! soundtrack LP!
(Which is why, as I always say, I guess I consider myself somewhat of a Firstie).
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Oct 19, 2008 13:13:42 GMT -5
"update"... so I called my mom in Florida, and she confirmed that she took me to see HELP! when it was new (that makes me 3) and that she remembers because she "HATED that movie!" Then she said she liked some of the Beatles' slower songs, but "not things like 'She Loves You' or 'I want to Hold Your Hand' " . Jeez -- and my mother was only 23 when the Beatles came to America! I got more than I bargained for when she told me some old stories. You see, I had a father who was a drunk, and my parents got divorced when I was 6. My mom just told me a story about my dad coming home drunk one time and smashing some of my records in a fury, because he "wanted me to play ball" instead of listening to records. Hmmmm.. I hadn't heard that one before. And now at 46 I STILL live for records -- and movies! So there! But I love The Mets! ;D
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Post by cosmo on Oct 19, 2008 16:42:57 GMT -5
When the Beatles first arrived on U.S. shores, my parents liked them enough to let us watch any show they were on (even on a school night!) and to buy us the first U.S. Capital single, but not enough to take us to City Park to see their show (or to buy us any of the albums).
Later, in 1969, when I became a complete Beatle fanatic, my mom liked Paul ok, but was not a huge fan of John. Yet in the 80s when Paul said something critical about John (don't remember what it was), she went out of her way to criticize Paul for not being respectful. Kinda funny. When Paul came to town to record and I didn't drive yet, she did drive me around looking for him, which I thought was nice.
My dad kinda bought into all that "the Beatles are responsible for the downfall of Western Civilization" b.s., so he was kind of a pain during my teenage years. At least there was always Mick and the Stones to seem worse, though, so he couldn't complain too much.
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Post by vectisfabber on Oct 20, 2008 2:58:52 GMT -5
My mother is musical and my dad isn't (he knows what he likes! Abba, The Carpenters, and Status Quo[?]). My mother has spent much of her life in musical activity of one sort or another and, I think, has always appreciated The Beatles musically. My dad quite likes a lot of their stuff. Both of them felt that, particularly when they started getting public about drugs, and Lennon took up with that peculiar Ono woman, that they were a bad influence on the teenaged me. In particular, when I left home, my dad was convinced that I was going from the sticks up to London to join a pop group (I wish! I learned how to do tax returns...)
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Post by nine on Oct 20, 2008 5:23:14 GMT -5
My Dad liked a lot of their stuff. He had the My Sweet Lord single and Something but when he heard Got My Mind Set On You he thought George had totally sold out trying to play crap 1980s songs. I told him it was an old song but he didn't listen...
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Oct 20, 2008 11:43:41 GMT -5
I was one of the few kids my age who had parents who liked rock and roll. It was never about rebellion to me. It was just good music and the Beatles were the best. (I was born in 1958, my dad in 1934 and my mom in 1936). My mother bought The Beatles 2nd Album so I knew those songs very well. I remember my dad butchering Beatles lyrics trying to sing along in the car, "I love you yeah yeah yeah". My mom's favorite groups were the Mamas & Papas and Simon & Garfunkel. My dad like the Supremes and Johnny Cash. My mom's all time favorite groups are ACDC and Dire Straits!
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 20, 2008 22:17:27 GMT -5
I think that my parents were bemused by The Beatles but I am not real sure. They weren't fans and I grew up with no Beatles' records in the 1960's. I was the oldest child(born late 1962) so I could turn to no older siblings for help.
My mom says that they did not(and thus I did not) watch Ed Sullivan on Feb. 9, 1964. Ed was not part of their Sunday nights. My parents both graduated from high school in 1952 and they were about the last of the non-rock and rollers.
By 1969 and 1970, my dad was convinced that hippies were all murderers like the Manson Family and I think that he blamed the long hair and drugs on the Beatles. He was a sharp guy though so I don't think he fully believed that. He later liked much of their music once I bombarded the house with Beatles starting in 1975. He did hate "Working Class Hero" when I first blasted it from my bedroom in late 1976, my exact objective what with the two f-bombs therein.
I don't think my parents thought about the Beatles too much in the 1960's although as educators, their students must have talked about them sometimes.
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Post by alltouttt on Oct 22, 2008 10:39:53 GMT -5
My dear mother took my 14 y/o sister and her friend to see The Beatles in Montréal back in 64 and I got to tag along as the 4th wheel I guess. I was 11 at the time... Sheer madness it was but not much worse than the hockey games she used to enjoy and brought me to see as a kid! She used to sing and play the piano and came from a pretty musical family so The Beatles, while not her cup of tea, were welcomed in the house. The one artist she couldn't stand because of his voice was Bob Dylan and if I wanted to see her leave the room, I just had to put *All I really Want To Do*... Gawd! She hated that song... She used to retaliate by dragging me to classical concerts(which I now love) and operas(which to this day, I still hate as much as Abba and The Bee Gees ) She started to appreciate The Beatles more after "Yesterday" and she loved *Sgt-Pepper's*
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Post by sayne on Oct 22, 2008 15:59:33 GMT -5
. . . I still hate as much as Abba . . . Ooooh, dem's fight'n' words!
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Post by ChokingSmoker on Oct 22, 2008 17:07:27 GMT -5
She used to retaliate by dragging me to classical concerts(which I now love) and operas(which to this day, I still hate as much as Abba and The Bee Gees ) Mine dragged me to "the Nutcracker" when I was ten. Still have not forgiven her or Tchaikovsky for that endeavor. Basically, she despised the Beatles and still does to this day. They ruined the world in so many words according to her.
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Post by John S. Damm on Oct 22, 2008 18:02:06 GMT -5
She used to retaliate by dragging me to classical concerts(which I now love) and operas(which to this day, I still hate as much as Abba and The Bee Gees ) Mine dragged me to "the Nutcracker" when I was ten. Still have not forgiven her or Tchaikovsky for that endeavor. Basically, she despised the Beatles and still does to this day. They ruined the world in so many words according to her. But that is a great parent reaction! I don't think I wanted my parents to like my music and cranking POB never failed to piss my old man off. I am guilty of this too but too many Beatles fans want to smother their kids in Beatles, hoping their kids will be rabid fans also. When my stepsons once showed minor interest in the Fabs, I went overboard and drowned their curiosity. I was at first put off when they bowed out of forced Beatles worship but after thinking about it, I came to really respect their decision to walk away from phony Beatlemania because it was coming from one of their parents. Screw me! I would have hated if my dad had crammed Johnny Ray down my throat or whoever. Kids have to find the Beatles on their own. Sure, kids need to bum cash off the parents to buy the music but parents should then back off. The cool thing is that my stepsons have come around to thinking that The Beatles are okay but it is not coming from me.
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Post by sayne on Oct 22, 2008 21:42:17 GMT -5
. . . Mine dragged me to "the Nutcracker" when I was ten. Still have not forgiven her or Tchaikovsky for that endeavor . . . Do you still dislike the Nutcracker Suite or have you recovered?
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Post by ChokingSmoker on Oct 23, 2008 16:55:40 GMT -5
. . . Mine dragged me to "the Nutcracker" when I was ten. Still have not forgiven her or Tchaikovsky for that endeavor . . . Do you still dislike the Nutcracker Suite or have you recovered? Still reeling after all these years. Don't dislike classical, just tolerate it. It is a lot better than any hip-hop or rap vibe coming in my direction. Seriously though, if I did go see it after all these years, I'd probably enjoy it. I've mellowed over the years as I suspect a lot of others on this board have as well. I probably could even get through an opera at this point in my life.
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Post by sayne on Oct 23, 2008 19:45:35 GMT -5
I probably could even get through an opera at this point in my life. Careful, now. You have to walk before you can run. Take it slow, pardner.
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Post by alltouttt on Oct 23, 2008 21:17:09 GMT -5
Raised my two boys on a steady diet of Frank Zappa ...
They learned much of their english that way ...
Should have seen them at the ski center, when they were 4 or 5 y/O riding the chairlift belting away *Yellow Snow* ... ;D
They do know their Beatles but they have their own musical tastes, mainly heavy, heavy metal ... Oh well!
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Post by winstonoboogie on Oct 23, 2008 21:28:05 GMT -5
Raised my two boys on a steady diet of Frank Zappa ... They learned much of their english that way ... Should have seen them at the ski center, when they were 4 or 5 y/O riding the chairlift belting away *Yellow Snow* ... ;D You didn't play "T*tt**s and Beer" for them, did you? ;D FWIW, I will be out of town this weekend- camping with the kids, so keep the home fires burning while I'm gone!
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Post by johnpaulharstar on Oct 24, 2008 11:47:24 GMT -5
That whole rebellion thing about the music never happened with either me or my own kids. My parents like and listened to rock and roll and I loved it too. The Beatles, the rest of the British Invasion groups, and all the folk/rock stuff was simply fantastic. I continually kept discovering new stuff. I played stuff because I liked it and never thought about pissing off my parents. A lot of the 60's stuff I love now I never even heard in the 60's (Velvet Underground, Small Faces, Traffic for example). My own kids picked right up on my Beatles obsession, not because I forced it on them, but because it is the best. They also both love the Kinks and my son is a huge Who fan. My daughter liked the early danceable hip hop (Hammer, CC Music Factory) and I liked that fine too. She like the alternative female types like Liz Phair, Allanis, Sarah McLaughlin, etc) which I did too. My son really likes Coldplay, Beck, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, White Stripes, Weezer, as well as more obscure groups like the Ponies, Shins, and Of Montreal. Neither has been a fan of rap or the angry metal stuff. They introduce me to a lot of stuff now and there are still things that I'll introduce them too. In short, there has been no rebellion in either direction. I feel very fortunate that things worked that way for me because the music matters so much more than any thing else.
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Post by vectisfabber on Oct 25, 2008 4:26:09 GMT -5
The Beatles crept into conversation with my parents (now both in their 80s) last night. While my Mum was talking about Beatles music and its impact, my Dad changed the subject to soccer (which neither my Mum nor I give a stuff about!).
They both love the Mamma Mia! movie too, by the way, and have actually been to the cinema multiple times to see it, the first time my Dad has done that since The Adventures Of Robin Hood with Errol Flynn in 1939!
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Post by JMG on Oct 25, 2008 9:38:12 GMT -5
I doubt my parents were too knocked out when I started playing Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin records and burning incense in my room. They probably thought I was turning into the antichrist. I'm sure The Beatles seemed tame by comparison. ;D
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Post by nine on Oct 28, 2008 4:08:55 GMT -5
"Whoa, this Revolutiom 9 gets me feet tappin'!"
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Post by Panther on Oct 28, 2008 13:04:43 GMT -5
My parents were 13 when the Beatles played the Ed Sullivan show, so if anything you'd think they'd be bigger fans than I am. However, neither of them were particularly Beatle fans, and neither ever owned a Beatle record.
My mom had lots of classical stuff (she became a piano teacher), Donovan's Sunshine Superman, Dylan's Self-Portrait (of all things!), Joan Baez's Greatest Hits, and Judy Collins' third (or fourth?) album (featuring a great cover of "In My Life"). My Dad had more country-blues stuff like Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson.
I became a Beatle-fan around 1984 when I was 8, amidst the bad MTV-era, hair-blower, legwarmers period. So, my childhood rebellion was becoming a classic rock fan, which was very uncool at my school where you either liked heavy metal or country.
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Post by Riff Raff on Oct 28, 2008 13:17:37 GMT -5
"Whoa, this Revolutiom 9 gets me feet tappin'!" ;D
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Post by cosmo on Oct 28, 2008 18:42:42 GMT -5
My two kids (now 23 and 24) were raised on the Beatles, you could say, in that we played their records a lot and had posters of them hanging here and there. Also we had a 20th anniversary Sgt. Pepper party when they were young which they got a big kick out of, helping us decorate the house.
They saw "Yellow Submarine" a lot when they were in grammar school, and then later watched "A Hard Day's Night" enough times that they could recite the lines.
Yet it never seemed forced in our house - they were free to like whatever bands they wanted to from an early age, and we never passed judgement or said turn that racket off! (remembering how much we hated it when our parents did that to us)
My son long ago stole all of my Beatles and solo Beatles tee shirts, and when Chris and I are looking for one of our Beatles cds, the first place we look is in the kids' rooms or their cars. We just went to visit my son in Houston, and the only thing he wanted us to bring him was "A Hard Day's Night" so he and his girlfriend could watch it.
A lot of the kids at the high school where I work know and love the Beatles. We just had our big intramural competition, where each class picks a theme, and the juniors' theme was Beatles. I watched them while they were practicing one day and the Number One cd was playing, and those kids - almost the whole class full - were singing along with every song. I told them they must have had good raising! ;D
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