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Post by debjorgo on Oct 15, 2016 11:06:32 GMT -5
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 21, 2017 18:44:33 GMT -5
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Post by lowbasso on Aug 21, 2017 19:01:01 GMT -5
If you are going to disagree with Lewisohn and refuse to accept his point of view on their history, don't waste your money on the book. But he does back up his facts in as much evidence and footnotes as are available. But you have to let go of a lot of stories you thought were true about the band. Even The Beatles learned facts about their history they did not know, especially why they got their first recording contract at Parlophone and who made that decision. (It was not George Martin.)
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 22, 2017 5:47:17 GMT -5
If you are going to disagree with Lewisohn and refuse to accept his point of view on their history, don't waste your money on the book. But he does back up his facts in as much evidence and footnotes as are available. But you have to let go of a lot of stories you thought were true about the band. Even The Beatles learned facts about their history they did not know, especially why they got their first recording contract at Parlophone and who made that decision. (It was not George Martin.) I think I may reserve the right to question his interpretation of some of the events when they conflict with the principal parties in the event. He doesn't have to be 100% right about everything for the book to be interesting and informative.
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Post by lowbasso on Aug 22, 2017 21:55:15 GMT -5
If you are going to disagree with Lewisohn and refuse to accept his point of view on their history, don't waste your money on the book. But he does back up his facts in as much evidence and footnotes as are available. But you have to let go of a lot of stories you thought were true about the band. Even The Beatles learned facts about their history they did not know, especially why they got their first recording contract at Parlophone and who made that decision. (It was not George Martin.) I think I may reserve the right to question his interpretation of some of the events when they conflict with the principal parties in the event. He doesn't have to be 100% right about everything for the book to be interesting and informative. "He doesn't have to be 100% right", but I found it difficult to prove him wrong when he backs up his view with numerous footnotes and evidence. He clearly states when he does not have concrete evidence to back up an event and just does not print anything he cannot back up with evidence. That is what makes his history of the band so interesting and fairly reliable. I note the lyrics Paul writes and sings in his song "Early Days", but I can't recall him refuting anything directly that is in the Lewisohn book. Nor Ringo as well. Nor Pete Best for that matter.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 22, 2017 22:09:21 GMT -5
I said I was going to put up or shut up. My plan right now was to shut up. I don't have the $180 buck to put up.
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Post by hofner61 on Jan 28, 2021 4:42:04 GMT -5
This book was published way back in 2013 which is about the year i purchased and read it, Volume 2 is still a couple of years away so i think i'm going to re-read The first volume, Tune In. I've watched a few Lewisohn interviews recently and listening to the Beatle discussions during the interviews has made me want to re-read this book.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 28, 2021 18:07:56 GMT -5
I have still not read Volume I as I wanted to wait and read all three together.
I may need to re-think that strategy least I not get to read any of it!
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Post by hofner61 on Jan 28, 2021 20:04:37 GMT -5
Lewisohn is 62, he'll be at least 64 or maybe 65 when volume 2 is released, he may well be in his mid 70's when volume 3 is released, that could be in 2033. That'll make him and some of us quite old by the time all 3 volumes are out there, hopefully he lives long enough to get this mammoth project finished. I'm roughly the same age as Lewisohn so i'm reading each book as it's released, read them whilst i can is my motto.
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Post by hofner61 on Jan 29, 2021 0:45:56 GMT -5
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Post by John S. Damm on Jan 29, 2021 2:24:15 GMT -5
Lewisohn is 62, he'll be at least 64 or maybe 65 when volume 2 is released, he may well be in his mid 70's when volume 3 is released, that could be in 2033. That'll make him and some of us quite old by the time all 3 volumes are out there, hopefully he lives long enough to get this mammoth project finished. I'm roughly the same age as Lewisohn so i'm reading each book as it's released, read them whilst i can is my motto. LOL, yeah I must start reading Volume I because I can no longer wait for Volume II and certainly not III. I got distressed when Lewisohn had to put research and writing on hold and engage in money-making gigs like speaking tours. I thought then that he should get a professorship at some university so he could have a salary to support himself and his family yet stay pretty focused on the books.
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Post by hofner61 on Aug 5, 2021 4:17:45 GMT -5
Haven't heard any Lewisohn news for quite awhile, hopefully he is at home being a paperback writer.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 19, 2021 9:02:05 GMT -5
Haven't heard any Lewisohn news for quite awhile, hopefully he is at home being a paperback writer. It has been quiet on the Lewisohn front! My long-held plan to read all three Lewisohn Volumes together, once all are out, is starting to look like a real bad plan! Maybe I better knock the dust off my Volume I and at least read that in my lifetime. I mean I am 58.
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Post by hofner61 on Aug 21, 2021 2:31:45 GMT -5
Haven't heard any Lewisohn news for quite awhile, hopefully he is at home being a paperback writer. It has been quiet on the Lewisohn front! My long-held plan to read all three Lewisohn Volumes together, once all are out, is starting to look like a real bad plan! Maybe I better knock the dust off my Volume I and at least read that in my lifetime. I mean I am 58. Start reading, by the time Vol 2 comes out you'll be 68, you should have finished Vol 1 by then.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 21, 2021 13:21:01 GMT -5
It has been quiet on the Lewisohn front! My long-held plan to read all three Lewisohn Volumes together, once all are out, is starting to look like a real bad plan! Maybe I better knock the dust off my Volume I and at least read that in my lifetime. I mean I am 58. Start reading, by the time Vol 2 comes out you'll be 68, you should have finished Vol 1 by then. LOL. No kidding!
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Post by hofner61 on Mar 4, 2022 3:50:46 GMT -5
I'm now reading Tune In, All These Years for the 2nd time, it's so long ago when i originally read it i'd forgotten how much detail Lewisohn goes into. I've read the Beatles story so many times i know it quite well, prior to reading Tune In for the 2nd time i read the Bob Spitz Beatles book. Regardless of what different authors think it's the same story but with that particular authors slant on it, some authors do a lot of research whereas others are not as thorough. Where is the next book Mr Lewisohn, by the time you've finished the majority of the population won't even know who The Beatles are.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jun 26, 2022 10:35:23 GMT -5
Mark Lewisohn will be at the Chicago "The Fest" (or Beatlefest as I prefer) from August 12-14.
Lewisohn is obviously very interesting and a major draw, but I would prefer that he hole-up somewhere and finish Volume II!
I know he needs the money short-term but releasing these final two Volumes should relieve that need.
I have said before that Lewisohn should associate with some University that would give him a healthy salary with minimum expectations (maybe a course or two but on Beatles which he could lecture on in his sleep) and he could then focus on his research and writing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 3:24:04 GMT -5
Lewisohn has a new speaking tour called Evolver 62. 62 fascinating history bites about one year. EVOLVER:62 is 62 sharp vivid moments that add up. It’s Beatles on the launchpad and detonation time for our huge cultural shift. Lovingly sharing items from his filing cabinets, Lewisohn will guide audiences through a galaxy of real-life moments, letting authentic archival gems transport you back where they once belonged, to see and feel how it all was before it was. People can expect to be well informed after a single two-hour show, tugged by 62 fast-moving stories of lives, loves, laughs, drama, death, beauty and music, one incredible engaging episode after another. www.marklewisohn.net/evolver-62/
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 20, 2022 12:03:16 GMT -5
I finally pulled the trigger on the book. My copy should arrive on Wednesday. I haven't read a book in so long.... I hope I can find the time to read it. I can see myself reading it and reading it and finally having to go to bed. And then not picking it up again. It may turn into a reference book where I go to the index a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 3:18:48 GMT -5
I finally pulled the trigger on the book. My copy should arrive on Wednesday. I haven't read a book in so long.... I hope I can find the time to read it. I can see myself reading it and reading it and finally having to go to bed. And then not picking it up again. It may turn into a reference book where I go to the index a lot. Try and read it all, it's a very interesting book, lot's of detail.
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 6, 2022 11:50:45 GMT -5
I got all the way through John's family tree. I stalled out when it got to Paul.
Reading IS HARD!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 4:41:13 GMT -5
I just got the extended version of Tune In - All These Years, this version is so big it needs 2 books to fit in all the information. Not sure when i'm going to read them, it's only a couple of months since i read the standard version of Tune In. www.marklewisohn.net/tune-in-extended-special-edition/
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 12, 2022 11:18:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like the way the index and the references for both books are at the end of the second book. You have to have both books out if you are wanting to look at those things.
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Post by John S. Damm on Nov 12, 2022 16:03:14 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like the way the index and the references for both books are at the end of the second book. You have to have both books out if you are wanting to look at those things. Hmm, I could use that as another justification for not reading my extended Volume I even though I have had it since it first came out! :3 Seriously, I am waiting for all three Volumes to be out then I will read them back to back to back. I did that with LOTR and with Shelby Foote's trilogy on the American Civil War.
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Post by debjorgo on Nov 13, 2022 17:46:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't like the way the index and the references for both books are at the end of the second book. You have to have both books out if you are wanting to look at those things. Hmm, I could use that as another justification for not reading my extended Volume I even though I have had it since it first came out! :3 Seriously, I am waiting for all three Volumes to be out then I will read them back to back to back. I did that with LOTR and with Shelby Foote's trilogy on the American Civil War. Works for me. But I would hate having 3 volumes of these massive 2 book sets sitting in front of me to read.
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Post by joeyself on Nov 14, 2022 18:30:08 GMT -5
This summer, I emailed Mark some links to cases in the USA that involved the Beatles, sort of. A couple of lawsuits over companies trying to cash in with products or even records. I didn't ask him about when the book would be ready, and after the second exchange, I decided I'd stop giving him MORE information that was virtually useless in the grand scheme of things.
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