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Post by pbirdchat on Sept 28, 2012 21:59:06 GMT -5
Hi there,
I have a small project studio in my home and for years I've always enjoyed the Lennon Anthology 73' 74' tracks to be 100% better, punchier, and soulful than the commercial studio albums. A few mistakes but MAN, nice stuff. This has aged well over the years. I for one, loved Walls And Bridges when it came out, but I was still hoping for something I" thought "I wanted from John. Maybe something so rocking that I could share with my friends who were into Zep and stuff.
Very tasty!
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Post by debjorgo on Sept 28, 2012 22:58:34 GMT -5
Hi there, I have a small project studio in my home and for years I've always enjoyed the Lennon Anthology 73' 74' tracks to be 100% better, punchier, and soulful than the commercial studio albums. A few mistakes but MAN, nice stuff. This has aged well over the years. I for one, loved Walls And Bridges when it came out, but I was still hoping for something I" thought "I wanted from John. Maybe something so rocking that I could share with my friends who were into Zep and stuff. Very tasty! I know what you mean about the Zep thing. The Beatles did Helter Skelter, Yer Blues, Happiness is a Warm Gun and the ending from Abbey Road. There was no reason not to believe that they would do some guitar heavy hard rock music. But they never really did. For John, Plastic Ono had its moments but after that, he never did reallly rock out again. George, no heavy rock guitar on anything either. Paul came the closest, with a track here and there. I'll have to listen through the Anthology tracks again. The best alternate track that comes to my mind is the I Don't Want To Be a Soldier track from the Signature Box Set. The droning number from Imagine becomes a nice little grovin' song.
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Post by mikev on Sept 29, 2012 3:35:17 GMT -5
Hi there, I have a small project studio in my home and for years I've always enjoyed the Lennon Anthology 73' 74' tracks to be 100% better, punchier, and soulful than the commercial studio albums. A few mistakes but MAN, nice stuff. This has aged well over the years. I for one, loved Walls And Bridges when it came out, but I was still hoping for something I" thought "I wanted from John. Maybe something so rocking that I could share with my friends who were into Zep and stuff. Very tasty! I know what you mean about the Zep thing. The Beatles did Helter Skelter, Yer Blues, Happiness is a Warm Gun and the ending from Abbey Road. There was no reason not to believe that they would do some guitar heavy hard rock music. But they never really did. For John, Plastic Ono had its moments but after that, he never did reallly rock out again. George, no heavy rock guitar on anything either. Paul came the closest, with a track here and there. I'll have to listen through the Anthology tracks again. The best alternate track that comes to my mind is the I Don't Want To Be a Soldier track from the Signature Box Set. The droning number from Imagine becomes a nice little grovin' song. When I started discovering the solo Beatles as a first generation teen, I had the impression that Lennon was the hard rocker. McCartney came closest to "arena" rock, but strangely enough he never embraced Helter Skelter in the live setting. Lennon- other than the riff heavy vibes of early Plastic Ono really had no scorchers and certainly nothing on George's end other than some horns and funk. Nicholas Schafner strangely called Ringo's Devil Woman a metal rocker. It was rock but certainly not metal. Maybe if Jimmy McCullough didn't pass so young- Paul could have got Wings into some heavier stuff...but then again in the height of Wings "mania" he was penning Let em In and Silly Love Songs. I think one thing we got out of Lennon's Menlove Avenue and Anthology, is that he did live in the studio rehearsals of his new material. It rocked and it was refreshing. I think if he put it out that way at the time he would have gotten raves. I also think a live album late in his career would have sounded excellent, and that was where he was going.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 29, 2012 10:41:06 GMT -5
I love the live studio run-throughs of the Walls And Bridges songs. Excellent! One of my favorites is "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" as John just sings a single tracked guide vocal but it is tons better than the totally Elton dominant commercial version.
I forget, are there such live studio run-throughs of the Mind Game songs? Those would be awesome if so.
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Post by mikev on Sept 29, 2012 12:54:02 GMT -5
I love the live studio run-throughs of the Walls And Bridges songs. Excellent! One of my favorites is "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" as John just sings a single tracked guide vocal but it is tons better than the totally Elton dominant commercial version. I forget, are there such live studio run-throughs of the Mind Game songs? Those would be awesome if so. From my quick scan of the box set, there are additional Menlove Ave type tracks from Walls and Bridges and also Double Fantasy. Milk and Honey was also the same live in the studio format and that is why they souind studio quality- yet "unfinished". I also believe from listening to the tracks that POB was a lot of live in the studio stuff. Imagine...a little bit in between, and Mind Games I think was mostly straight studio. I'm the Greatest early takes also sound live in the studio.
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Post by John S. Damm on Sept 29, 2012 13:08:02 GMT -5
I love the live studio run-throughs of the Walls And Bridges songs. Excellent! One of my favorites is "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" as John just sings a single tracked guide vocal but it is tons better than the totally Elton dominant commercial version. I forget, are there such live studio run-throughs of the Mind Game songs? Those would be awesome if so. From my quick scan of the box set, there are additional Menlove Ave type tracks from Walls and Bridges and also Double Fantasy. Milk and Honey was also the same live in the studio format and that is why they souind studio quality- yet "unfinished". I also believe from listening to the tracks that POB was a lot of live in the studio stuff. Imagine...a little bit in between, and Mind Games I think was mostly straight studio. I'm the Greatest early takes also sound live in the studio. Thanks for the summary Mike! Yeah, that POB live stuff was great! I absolutely love the electric guitar version of "Mother." Wouldn't live, studio, stripped-down versions of Mind Games songs be awesome!? Like Mike said, we only get alternate studio takes or home demos of the MG songs if my memory is correct. I would give anything for a studio quality, stripped down live run-through of "I Know(I Know)".
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Post by acebackwords on Sept 29, 2012 13:26:11 GMT -5
I have an alternate take of "I Found Out" with Lennon wailing on electric fuzz-tone guitar that rocks like hell. And some of the vocals are even more tortured then the extreme stuff on POB. I definitely prefer it to the track he used, but I could see how it wouldn't have quite fit in with the format of the rest of the songs.
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Post by mikev on Sept 29, 2012 15:44:06 GMT -5
From my quick scan of the box set, there are additional Menlove Ave type tracks from Walls and Bridges and also Double Fantasy. Milk and Honey was also the same live in the studio format and that is why they souind studio quality- yet "unfinished". I also believe from listening to the tracks that POB was a lot of live in the studio stuff. Imagine...a little bit in between, and Mind Games I think was mostly straight studio. I'm the Greatest early takes also sound live in the studio. Thanks for the summary Mike! Yeah, that POB live stuff was great! I absolutely love the electric guitar version of "Mother." Wouldn't live, studio, stripped-down versions of Mind Games songs be awesome!? Like Mike said, we only get alternate studio takes or home demos of the MG songs if my memory is correct. I would give anything for a studio quality, stripped down live run-through of "I Know(I Know)". Yes....Mind Games outtakes include One Day at a Time with John singing an octave lower for example and demos but I'm pretty certain there are no live takes. Doesn't mean they don't exist- who knew anything about the Menlove songs other than the Rock and Roll outtakes? I absolutely loved Since My Baby Left Me.
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