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Post by debjorgo on Jul 25, 2013 18:20:54 GMT -5
Not an expression this Brit has ever heard. Here's the others. You Brits have funny expressions. 10. "Exiting the tube" 9. "Premiering Mr. Bean" 8. "Piersing your Morgan" 7. "Being tossed from the pub" 6. "Bucking the ham" 5. "BBC-section" 4. "Kicking out Pete Best" 3. "Bending it like Beckham" 2. "Blowing a crumpet through a trumpet" 1. "Opening big in the West End"
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Post by mikev on Jul 25, 2013 19:29:04 GMT -5
Not an expression this Brit has ever heard. Here's the others. You Brits have funny expressions. 10. "Exiting the tube" 9. "Premiering Mr. Bean" 8. "Piersing your Morgan" 7. "Being tossed from the pub" 6. "Bucking the ham" 5. "BBC-section" 4. "Kicking out Pete Best" 3. "Bending it like Beckham" 2. "Blowing a crumpet through a trumpet" 1. "Opening big in the West End" Sounds more like the top ten of that Harry and John photo...
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 25, 2013 20:01:19 GMT -5
Here's the others. You Brits have funny expressions. 10. "Exiting the tube" 9. "Premiering Mr. Bean" 8. "Piersing your Morgan" 7. "Being tossed from the pub" 6. "Bucking the ham" 5. "BBC-section" 4. "Kicking out Pete Best" 3. "Bending it like Beckham" 2. "Blowing a crumpet through a trumpet" 1. "Opening big in the West End" Sounds more like the top ten of that Harry and John photo... Now that's funny! Letterman should recruit you on the basis of that alone.
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 26, 2013 4:40:36 GMT -5
10, 7 and 1 are expressions one might encounter in real life. Never heard of any of them in the context of childbirth, though. I think this is some lads' mag making stuff up.
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 26, 2013 6:14:24 GMT -5
10, 7 and 1 are expressions one might encounter in real life. Never heard of any of them in the context of childbirth, though. I think this is some lads' mag making stuff up. They are jokes, vectis, made up. They're supposed to be funny. They were made up by comedy writers. When he read them off, people laughed.
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 26, 2013 18:08:09 GMT -5
Apologies. I got the impression they were being thrown out as genuine slang expressions.
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 26, 2013 18:58:55 GMT -5
Apologies. I got the impression they were being thrown out as genuine slang expressions. No need to apologize to me, Letterman and his staff maybe. mikev's saying it is the top ten for the John/Harry photo is much more funny.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 29, 2013 14:28:47 GMT -5
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 29, 2013 17:58:09 GMT -5
He's entitled to his opinion. I don't share it.
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Post by sayne on Jul 29, 2013 22:37:55 GMT -5
It's not really a put-down on the Beatles. It's a put-down on the state of pop music and the people who listen to it. He's basically saying that we have to let go of the Beatles and find our (current generation's) own "Beatles." A band or performer that is good, plays instruments, writes songs, has good full albums, influences fashion, stands for something important politically, and so forth. Although he does seem to go back and forth with praise and damnation about the Lads, I think any perceived slagging off on the Beatles is really frustration about things being so pathetic today that a 50 year old band is still popular to a lot of people.
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 30, 2013 0:19:23 GMT -5
It's not really a put-down on the Beatles. It's a put-down on the state of pop music and the people who listen to it. He's basically saying that we have to let go of the Beatles and find our (current generation's) own "Beatles." A band or performer that is good, plays instruments, writes songs, has good full albums, influences fashion, stands for something important politically, and so forth. Although he does seem to go back and forth with praise and damnation about the Lads, I think any perceived slagging off on the Beatles is really frustration about things being so pathetic today that a 50 year old band is still popular to a lot of people. Good point! He makes a semi-valid point that it does't seem right that some kids today are playing music over 45 years old! 1968 was 45 years ago. In 1975 had a 12 year old me been played music from 45 years before which was 1930, should I be expected to jump up and down and scream awesome or cool and sing along to the lyrics? "Wow, Irving Berlin is hot!" "I dig that swinging Cole Porter(born in next door Peru, Indiana)!" "Hoagy Carmichael(born and raised in Bloomington Indiana) sends me to the moon, brother!" No of course not. A 12 year old me in 1975 would have said WTF!? "This is lame" or I would have laughed at it. And yet those three mentioned men are considered songwriters at least equal to Lennon/McCartney if not perhaps as famous now because of the passage of time. Heck, our Beatles loved those three cats I mentioned.
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 30, 2013 3:25:53 GMT -5
Irving Berlin - classic. Hoagy Carmichael - quirky melodist: George fans would enjoy the way he never goes where you expect him to. Cole Porter - Paul, pay attention: this is what a lyricist is supposed to do.
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Post by mikev on Jul 30, 2013 7:33:59 GMT -5
It's not really a put-down on the Beatles. It's a put-down on the state of pop music and the people who listen to it. He's basically saying that we have to let go of the Beatles and find our (current generation's) own "Beatles." A band or performer that is good, plays instruments, writes songs, has good full albums, influences fashion, stands for something important politically, and so forth. Although he does seem to go back and forth with praise and damnation about the Lads, I think any perceived slagging off on the Beatles is really frustration about things being so pathetic today that a 50 year old band is still popular to a lot of people. That is how I read it too. Problem today is that any band with momentum has no staying power or is flavor of the day. Only a handful of modern artists can fill a stadium. A group today would need the versatility to blend hard rock, pop and hip hop in a way that they can put together something with mass appeal. Almost impossible by today's standards. Don't forget they also need personality. Justin Timberlake- though in a boy band early in his career comes to mind. He is always hilarious on SNL. He has some great musical instincts- would like to see him do a pure rock album along with the likes Madonna and Lady Gaga. But, it ain't gonna happen just cuz us geezers still like rock...but maybe the 12-15 year olds listening to the Beatles would pay attention.
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 30, 2013 17:18:14 GMT -5
I thought Jet was going to be big. 4 top forty singles, one of them, Cold Hard Bitch, number 1. Rock and Roll like I like it. Rolling Stone says "Jet arrives just in time to save Rock and Roll". A strong follow-up album would put them over the top.
It was three years later before they finally released the second album. It sounded just like the first album without the hits.
Speaking of Lady Gaga, her album Born This Way, released in May 2011, was number 1 everywhere. But her follow-up album has not charted. Of course it won't be released until November, a good two and a half years later. Who want's to bet it sounds like her last album but without the hits.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 1, 2013 22:12:03 GMT -5
Rookie Blue from tonight: One cop looking at a video of another cop from a few years back, "Oh my god, you were so cute. You look like one of the Beatles". Everyone giggles.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 2, 2013 21:40:12 GMT -5
On Would You Fall For That?, an ABC news magazine type show, they have a young lady and they are pretending she's a famous pop star to see if people fall for it.
She's on the street, drawing a crowd. They come up on a photo/poster vendor, (a poster of New York City Lennon is prominent) and they ask the sales lady if she has any pictures of Sasheer, the fake star. She says she is sold out. They say, "So you normally would have a picture of her right here next to like, the Beatles?"
The Beatles are still the biggest stars around.
But.... they also had a lost dog, disguised as Elvis Presley. But that's another thread.
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Post by sayne on Aug 3, 2013 10:57:42 GMT -5
... It was three years later before they finally released the second album. It sounded just like the first album without the hits. Speaking of Lady Gaga, her album Born This Way, released in May 2011, was number 1 everywhere. But her follow-up album has not charted. Of course it won't be released until November, a good two and a half years later. Who want's to bet it sounds like her last album but without the hits. I think the proof of the pudding will be to look at what people do at the end of 8 years. If we go by British releases as the standard, the Beatles first real studio album came out in 1963 and the last in 1970 (although we should really say 1969 because Abbey Road was "last"). If other artists can go from their Please Please Me to their Let It Be, then they get props. Throw in the singles and they deserve respect. Just for comparison, Justin Bieber released his first real studio album in 2010. Now, in 2013, he's had 3 total. From 1963 to 1965, the Beatles grew from Please, Please Me to Rubber Soul. What's that, about 6 albums? It's hard to be the "next Beatles." It's not just about the fame, it's about the quality and number of the output. The Beatles were questioned for not having released something in months, but Pepper was the payoff. Artists like Jet, mentioned above, and others have years between product and there's no progress.
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Post by winstonoboogie on Aug 3, 2013 13:40:25 GMT -5
On Would You Fall For That?, an ABC news magazine type show, they have a young lady and they are pretending she's a famous pop star to see if people fall for it. She's on the street, drawing a crowd. They come up on a photo/poster vendor, (a poster of New York City Lennon is prominent) and they ask the sales lady if she has any pictures of Sasheer, the fake star. She says she is sold out. They say, "So you normally would have a picture of her right here next to like, the Beatles?" The Beatles are still the biggest stars around. But.... they also had a lost dog, disguised as Elvis Presley. But that's another thread. I like it! Was it.....a hound dog? Sorry - couldn't resist! Ain't I a stinker?
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 7, 2013 17:23:45 GMT -5
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 7, 2013 23:15:58 GMT -5
That was a good article but I noticed this claim which seems the norm now days because of certain claims by a certain bass player: "Instead, McCartney, who was largely driving the creative bus in the band's last days, came up with a simpler and decidedly more local idea, drawing a sketch "with four little stick men crossing the zebra," studio historian Brian Southall recently recalled to the BBC." I guess there is no room on the "creative bus" for "Come Together," "Something," "I Want You(She's So Heavy)," and "Here Comes The Sun" because twee "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" and overwrought "Oh!Darling" have taken all the seats on that bus!
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 14, 2013 19:07:53 GMT -5
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 14, 2013 19:51:40 GMT -5
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 16, 2013 22:20:38 GMT -5
10, 7 and 1 are expressions one might encounter in real life. Never heard of any of them in the context of childbirth, though. I think this is some lads' mag making stuff up. They are jokes, vectis, made up. They're supposed to be funny. They were made up by comedy writers. When he read them off, people laughed. I'm in an apologetic mood. I'm going back through some of my earlier comments, trying to explain myself. I didn't mean to be snotty here. It was supposed to be sort of a Monty Python, Dead Parrot kind of comment. I didn't quite get there but I tried.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 16, 2013 22:34:39 GMT -5
New TV item that mentions the Beatles as a living force of nature in todays world:
20/20 is doing a story on actor Jason Patrick and he is trying to gain custody of his son. To illustrate his presence in his son's life, he quotes a letter from his partner where she writes for the son "thank you for teaching me to pee in the toilet, watch airplanes, learn Beatles songs, ...".
Teaching your children about the Beatles has become a thing. If you have kids, you should have to do it, shouldn't you?
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 16, 2013 22:59:59 GMT -5
I was watching Access Hollywood and they were talking about how the self-indulged spawn of celebrities use twitter to mess with their famous families and Paris Jackson tweeted the lyrics from "Yesterday" to show her despair before trying to off herself!
I wonder if she knew her old man had an ownership interest in the song?
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 16, 2013 23:26:44 GMT -5
I was watching Access Hollywood and they were talking about how the self-indulged spawn of celebrities use twitter to mess with their famous families and Paris Jackson tweeted the lyrics from "Yesterday" to show her despair before trying to off herself! I wonder if she knew her old man had an ownership interest in the song? Hey, if you are going to do it, you might as well make a few bub for the family.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 26, 2013 17:58:05 GMT -5
I think this qualifies as showing that the Beatles are not just nostalgia. A story from Steve. www.examiner.com/article/one-direction-s-member-s-arrogant-remarks-about-beatles-cut-from-documentaryApparently Harry doesn't think music is going to pull out of its slump. He thinks one day One Direction will be bigger than the Beatles were. I think more likely, because music is so blasé now, people will just lose interest. I saw One Direction on one of those morning shows recently. I swear, they were getting more screams than Al Roker. Steve, are you sure he didn't say one day they would be bigger than the Beiber?
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Post by acebackwords on Aug 26, 2013 21:42:46 GMT -5
All I know is every time this thread pops up I think: I sure hope Beatles fans are wallowing in nostalgia. I know I am.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 26, 2013 22:41:41 GMT -5
All I know is every time this thread pops up I think: I sure hope Beatles fans are wallowing in nostalgia. I know I am. Well sure ace. You know that's true. No question.
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Post by acebackwords on Aug 26, 2013 23:42:09 GMT -5
I dont know if the good old days were better. But i was better back back then.
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