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Post by ursamajor on May 2, 2013 7:42:46 GMT -5
Eh? What classification is that? If you had, with any sort of engagement, listened to the album, and/or seen the film, you would know that many tracks don't have any Indian instrument (which is what I presume you mean by "sitar-track"). Do you want to revist that silly statement? Do you really mean to say that the excellence of a record is how many stores stock it? Now for the real reason I'm replying to you ... what on earth do you mean by that? I showed my wife and she said, McCabe*, you know what's happening: the poster (you, ursa) is upset but can't quite put together a clever insult/putdown. Is that it? McCabe *She didn't actually say McCabe, or even Joseph. What she did call me is married-couple-private stuff, ahem! The last line is a lyric from Oasis's Wonderwall. hehee, you are a genius and genius cannot be denied ..
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Post by ursamajor on May 2, 2013 7:50:08 GMT -5
it's pretty hard to argue what a bland and tedious listening experience it is. I think you're suggesting that it is easy to argue that it's a bland and tedious listening experience and, when it first came out, I would have agreed. I have come to appreciate the subtlety and depth of much of the stuff on it which I had previously discounted and, in particular, I am a passionate advocate of be Here Now, straight out of the Long Long Long school of quiet power. To be quite honest with you veccy, yep I think it would be easy and that is what I am suggesting. No doubt George is a talented man but I think he tried hard to make this as good as ATMP and he probably tried too hard. Try the dinner party test, put on LITMW on as background music the next time you have people over at your place and I think you will find your guests will start feeling uncomfortable from the third song onwards and you will be lucky to make it to side 2 before you are threatened with switching it off in which case you should put on Dark Horse But seriously, when you say Be Here Now I can only think of this.
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Post by Joseph McCabe on May 2, 2013 15:02:10 GMT -5
Bigger Bear, I was going to say that I thought you had gone potty - but that would have been rude. McCabe
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Post by ursamajor on May 2, 2013 17:53:30 GMT -5
Bigger Bear, I was going to say that I thought you had gone potty - but that would have been rude. McCabe Bigger Bear, is that what your wife calls you ? Love it ..
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Post by debjorgo on May 2, 2013 18:38:37 GMT -5
Bigger Bear, I was going to say that I thought you had gone potty - but that would have been rude. McCabe Bigger Bear, is that what your wife calls you ? Love it .. Or is Ursa Major the Big Dipper?
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Post by ursamajor on May 2, 2013 20:05:15 GMT -5
Bigger Bear, is that what your wife calls you ? Love it .. Or is Ursa Major the Big Dipper? It is as McCabe crackingly pointed out the Great Bear .. just like Big Ted in Play Skool .. Also, I don't think Paul could Paul off Big Dipper in a song as he so brilliantly did with Ursa Major in Pretty Little Head but I wouldn't mind going to the top of a slide and taking a ride on a Big Dipper !!
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Post by acebackwords on May 2, 2013 20:45:20 GMT -5
Ursa you got class and style
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Post by Joseph McCabe on May 2, 2013 23:43:28 GMT -5
Just so you know ursamajor:
(1) Ursa Major means Bigger Bear, not Great Bear. Major (or maior) is the comparitve of the adjective magnus, which means great or big. All your name says is that you're "bigger"; but bigger than what, there is no clue.
(2) Ursa is a she-bear. If you are female, that's appropriate. If you are male, it should be ursus, a he-bear.
McCabe
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Post by ursamajor on May 3, 2013 1:04:31 GMT -5
Yes yes I didn't realise you were doing the professor humour routine .. Ursa Major the Greater Bear .. If you see me on a street corner busking to Pretty Little Head throw a coin mine way .. I'll give you some extra Major and Minors
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Post by Panther on May 4, 2013 9:42:53 GMT -5
I personally think Living in the Material World is a perfectly listenable album, whether one is a fan of 'Harrisongs' or not. "The Light That Has Lighted The World" is one of my favorite George songs, featuring a stunningly beautiful piano part played to great effect. "Living in the Material World" itself is a jaunty, bouncy number, and "The Lord Loves the One" is another of George's best tunes, with some cool picking and bluesy runs. "Be Here Now" and "The Day The World Gets Round" are just lovely -- beauty in song. No one could fail to be moved by them. Yes, they're soft and slow, but such was George's character -- he was a mellow dude. (I must admit I find 'Who Can See It' a bit of a bore, and some parts of 'Is That All' don't float my boat. Still, LITMW is easily George's second-best record, for me. I also think it's the end of The Beatles' era of music, and the last great Beatle-related record.)
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Post by acebackwords on May 4, 2013 14:56:16 GMT -5
I couldn't resist going back and revisiting "The Light That Has Lighted the World." 282 likes and 0 dislikes. The people have spoken. But shouldn't it be "Lit" not "Lighted"? (just kidding)
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Post by vectisfabber on May 4, 2013 16:43:21 GMT -5
"Lighted" is an archaic usage, and used (very well) for poetic effect.
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Post by acebackwords on May 4, 2013 18:04:16 GMT -5
There are some beautiful chords on that song that juxt kjll me every time
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Post by Joseph McCabe on May 4, 2013 19:57:00 GMT -5
"Lighted" is an archaic usage, and used (very well) for poetic effect. "Lighted" is not an archaic usage at all. The verb "light" in the sense of illuminate or kindle has as its past tense lighted or lit, and also has as its past participle lighted or lit. So all these forms are quite OK: he lit the match he lighted the match he has lit the match he has lighted the match the match has been lit the match has been lighted the match will have been lit the match will have been lighted etc This is using "light" in the sense of kindle. Exactly the same applies to "light" in the sense of illuminate: the lamp lit the room the lamp lighted the room the lamp has lit the room the lamp has lighted the room the room was lit by the lamp the room was lighted by the lamp etc None of these uses is archaic; but some are more common in one place (country/area/town) than another. I must say that none of them sound strange to my ears! McCabe
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Post by acebackwords on May 4, 2013 20:19:59 GMT -5
I was just being a wiseass but thanks for the insits ...I mean insights.
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Post by debjorgo on May 4, 2013 21:12:14 GMT -5
He insighted us all with that one.
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Post by coachbk on May 4, 2013 22:47:14 GMT -5
LIVING IN THE MATERIAL WORLD is a good album. It belongs in the discussion of George's 2nd best album (along with GEORGE HARRISON and CLOUD NINE). ALL THINGS MUST PASS is clearly #1.
Of course "Give Me Love" is a great song. In the discussion of best solo songs. "Don't Let Me Wait Too Long" should have been the followup single. Nothing else as good as that pair, but nothing really weak either.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 4, 2013 22:58:48 GMT -5
I personally think Living in the Material World is a perfectly listenable album, whether one is a fan of 'Harrisongs' or not. "The Light That Has Lighted The World" is one of my favorite George songs, featuring a stunningly beautiful piano part played to great effect. "Living in the Material World" itself is a jaunty, bouncy number, and "The Lord Loves the One" is another of George's best tunes, with some cool picking and bluesy runs. "Be Here Now" and "The Day The World Gets Round" are just lovely -- beauty in song. No one could fail to be moved by them. Yes, they're soft and slow, but such was George's character -- he was a mellow dude. (I must admit I find 'Who Can See It' a bit of a bore, and some parts of 'Is That All' don't float my boat. Still, LITMW is easily George's second-best record, for me. I also think it's the end of The Beatles' era of music, and the last great Beatle-related record.) Great post. I should print this and tack it on my wall to remind me how great this album is when I otherwise have my head up my ass. I remember "Give Me Love" when it was released even though I didn't know who George Harrison was. I loved the song. I didn't know the album though in 1973. I bought LITMW when I was like 17 or 18 which would have been 1979 or 1980. I hated it then. That is not a good age to listen to LITMW. One must be older, have lived on their own, been alone, fallen down a few times, lost in love, been hurt, lost hope or at least have been disillusioned with life. LITMW is for people with some life experiences under their belt. "Be Here Now" is like a prayer, it is sacred and endearing.
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Post by debjorgo on May 5, 2013 0:15:00 GMT -5
I hate to be like Pepper here and re-write history but George should have recorded a serious version of Miss O'Dell and it should have been the second single. After Give Me Love, it was the best song he had at the time.
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Post by Panther on May 5, 2013 7:56:47 GMT -5
I hate to be like Pepper here and re-write history but George should have recorded a serious version of Miss O'Dell and it should have been the second single. After Give Me Love, it was the best song he had at the time.
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Post by debjorgo on May 5, 2013 8:16:29 GMT -5
I hate to be like Pepper here and re-write history but George should have recorded a serious version of Miss O'Dell and it should have been the second single. After Give Me Love, it was the best song he had at the time. George was too serious at the time. But I guess if he'd spent more time with Miss O'Dell it would have turned into "Why don't you call me, Hari Krishna, Hari Rama".
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Post by vectisfabber on May 5, 2013 12:24:00 GMT -5
"Lighted" is not an archaic usage at all. The word "archaic" may have been a littleoverdramatic in an effort to express what I meant without excessive explanation. It is my experience that you will not commonly encounter "lighted" in present day English usage other than in circumstances when it is used to poetic or historic effect. It is, of course, a prefectly acceptable participle.
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Post by acebackwords on May 5, 2013 16:10:33 GMT -5
He insighted us all with that one. I wholeheartedly agree. I think I expressed myself very insightfulnessly.
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Post by acebackwords on May 5, 2013 16:15:17 GMT -5
Sometimes McCabe reminds me of this very ascerbic English professor I once had who could slice people to ribbons with a few carefully chosen words of dry wit.
This good friend of mine (former New York Times reporter) is always correcting my grammar and pronunciations. I find it very educational and very annoying (especially when he's right, which is most of the time). Verbally, I'm from the Archie Bunker school of malapropisms.
But it strikes me that this is one of the most literate and well-written boards I've ever been on. Are all you guys former English majors or something. Its somewhat ironic because, I don't know if you've seen any of Lennon's raw writing but he had atrocious grammer and spelling. One of the worst students to ever graduate from Quarrymen High School (and just barely). Its no wonder the dude never made anything of himself.
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