lowbasso
A Hard Day's Knight
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Post by lowbasso on Mar 14, 2014 14:17:07 GMT -5
George in 1977 goes Disco!!
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Post by mikev on Mar 14, 2014 14:41:28 GMT -5
George in 1977 goes Disco!! WOW, if the Beatles had reunited in 1977, we would have forever had to deal with that Brady fro, as we replayed the concert over and over.
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Post by debjorgo on Mar 14, 2014 17:06:19 GMT -5
WOW, if the Beatles had reunited in 1977, we would have forever had to deal with that Brady fro, as we replayed the concert over and over. "One more weight to bear."
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 15, 2014 1:51:01 GMT -5
Wow! George has a bad case of "happy feet" in that video! He often does even when really playing live. A bad habit in baseball, golf and guitar playing!
The crowd sure isn't discoing, they look dead as can be.
I like George's hair but then again I had a "man perm" in 1980 so I can relate. Hey, we all make mistakes and have bad hair years!
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Post by coachbk on Apr 17, 2014 11:35:09 GMT -5
In the book PAPERBACK WRITER, when the Beatles reunite, one of George's songs is called "Disco Jesus".
Sample lyrics:
Well it's Saturday night and I'm feeling bored Can't wait til Sunday morning, get to bump with the Lord Yeah Jesus, get down When it comes to boogie, he's the boss Ought to see him do the hustle Up there on that funky cross
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 2:31:58 GMT -5
George in 1977 goes Disco!! Very versatile our George, and a great uke player, much better than Paul
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Post by vectisfabber on Apr 18, 2014 4:43:28 GMT -5
It raises an interesting question. The Beatles were great at assimilating influences and, after the first few albums, setting musical trends rather than following them. Had they not split up, would we have seen disco, punk etc., and would the Beatles have followed them, or would they have continued to blaze trails?
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Post by mikev on Apr 18, 2014 6:57:24 GMT -5
It raises an interesting question. The Beatles were great at assimilating influences and, after the first few albums, setting musical trends rather than following them. Had they not split up, would we have seen disco, punk etc., and would the Beatles have followed them, or would they have continued to blaze trails? Besides the once rocking Bee Gees, Kiss, the Stones, and Rod Stewart embraced disco even if only on a song or two. The best thing of the Beatles breaking up is that we never had to even deal with that.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 18, 2014 7:05:51 GMT -5
Besides the once rocking Bee Gees, Kiss, the Stones, and Rod Stewart embraced disco even if only on a song or two. The best thing of the Beatles breaking up is that we never had to even deal with that. Unless you like Disco, which I do. (Especially compared to cRap) . "I Was Made For Loving You" is easily my favorite KISS song.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 18, 2014 9:57:42 GMT -5
Besides the once rocking Bee Gees, Kiss, the Stones, and Rod Stewart embraced disco even if only on a song or two. The best thing of the Beatles breaking up is that we never had to even deal with that. Unless you like Disco, which I do. (Especially compared to cRap) . "I Was Made For Loving You" is easily my favorite KISS song. My brother still has his Disco Sucks tee-shirt from 1978 that he would hide in his gym bag and put on at the bus stop, outside the view of our parents. I hated Disco back then. I was heartbroken when Paul did "Goodnight Tonight." Chicago D.J. Steve Dahl apologized on air to Paul and then proceeded to run the turntable arm/needle across that single while playing(thus destroying it) as he did to all Disco songs by so-called Rockers.
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Post by coachbk on Apr 18, 2014 13:03:34 GMT -5
I hated disco with a passion. The only song with a disco beat I liked a lot was "Superman" by the Kinks. A few others were OK (Rock The Boat by The Hues Corporation, some of Tavares, the O'Jays and Spinners, Donna Summer "Hot Stuff") but mostly I hated it at the time.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 18, 2014 17:20:28 GMT -5
Unless you like Disco, which I do. (Especially compared to cRap) . "I Was Made For Loving You" is easily my favorite KISS song. My brother still has his Disco Sucks tee-shirt from 1978 that he would hide in his gym bag and put on at the bus stop, outside the view of our parents. I hated Disco back then. I was heartbroken when Paul did "Goodnight Tonight." Chicago D.J. Steve Dahl apologized on air to Paul and then proceeded to run the turntable arm/needle across that single while playing(thus destroying it) as he did to all Disco songs by so-called Rockers. Was there a disco version of Goodnight Tonight? I never have heard it. Must have been a b-side or something. Or one of those extended EPs. I certainly never heard it when I was out dancing in the discos. The standard version was more calypso or old music hall than disco. Silly Love Songs always gets the disco label too. Disco was a steady beat and bass line all through the song. Silly's bass is all over the place. John and Yoko were a lot closer to disco with Walking on Thin Ice and Every Man Has a Woman Who Loves Him. But they were great tunes. Ringo, ...oh never mind.
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Post by sayne on Apr 18, 2014 19:03:47 GMT -5
. . . John and Yoko were a lot closer to disco with Walking on Thin Ice and Every Man Has a Woman Who Loves Him. But they were great tunes . . . I remember seeing the interview John and Yoko did with Tom Snyder when Tom asked John what kind of music he listened to or liked, and John pretty much went bonkers over disco. He thought Donna Summer's The Wanderer was an example of the next big turn in music. I was shocked.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 19, 2014 5:49:38 GMT -5
I remember seeing the interview John and Yoko did with Tom Snyder when Tom asked John what kind of music he listened to or liked, and John pretty much went bonkers over disco. He thought Donna Summer's The Wanderer was an example of the next big turn in music. I was shocked. I wouldn't say John went bonkers over Disco in the Tom Snyder interview. When Snyder asked what kind of music he liked or listened to, John stopped to consider for a moment and calmly, matter-of-factly, said: "I like the Disco music that's out now which is .. (pause)... great. Great music." What's also considerable is that this interview was conducted in April 1975, well before Disco became a huge sensation and we got John Travolta, The Bee Gees, and SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER. So I think the "disco" which Lennon was referring to was not the full-blown dance craze type that came later. Or maybe he liked that too; I'm just wondering.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 19, 2014 5:51:26 GMT -5
I hated Disco back then. I was heartbroken when Paul did "Goodnight Tonight." I didn't like Disco at the time it was huge either. I got to appreciate it later, and now I think it's very upbeat and fun stuff which is lacking in today's climate.
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Post by mikev on Apr 19, 2014 7:47:09 GMT -5
I remember seeing the interview John and Yoko did with Tom Snyder when Tom asked John what kind of music he listened to or liked, and John pretty much went bonkers over disco. He thought Donna Summer's The Wanderer was an example of the next big turn in music. I was shocked. I wouldn't say John went bonkers over Disco in the Tom Snyder interview. When Snyder asked what kind of music he liked or listened to, John stopped to consider for a moment and calmly, matter-of-factly, said: "I like the Disco music that's out now which is .. (pause)... great. Great music." What's also considerable is that this interview was conducted in April 1975, well before Disco became a huge sensation and we got John Travolta, The Bee Gees, and SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER. So I think the "disco" which Lennon was referring to was not the full-blown dance craze type that came later. Or maybe he liked that too; I'm just wondering. Early "disco" was more funk and R & B: Ohio Players, early Donna Summer, Earth, Wind and Fire, pre-SNF Bee Gees, Parliament, Chaka Khan. Also Stevie Wonders' Songs in the Key of Life. It got plasticsized in the late 70s and repulsed more hard core rockers. I briefly embraced it, then went with Goodbye Sister Disco by the Who and never looked back.
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Post by sayne on Apr 19, 2014 10:59:46 GMT -5
I remember seeing the interview John and Yoko did with Tom Snyder when Tom asked John what kind of music he listened to or liked, and John pretty much went bonkers over disco. He thought Donna Summer's The Wanderer was an example of the next big turn in music. I was shocked. I wouldn't say John went bonkers over Disco in the Tom Snyder interview. . . You're right. I must be combining memories from different sources. Here's an excerpt from the first chapter of Robert Hilburn's book: Chapter 1 John Lennon raced into Yoko Ono's home office in the mammoth old Dakota building with a copy of Donna Summer's new single, "The Wanderer." "Listen!" he shouted as he put the 45 on the record player. "She's doing Elvis!" I didn't know what he was talking about at first. The arrangement felt more like rock than the singer's usual electro-disco approach, but the opening vocal sure sounded like Donna Summer to me. Midway through the song, however, her voice shifted into the playful, hiccuping style Elvis had used on so many of his early recordings.
"See! See!" John said, pointing at the speakers.I really think I saw an interview with him and Yoko expressing the sentiment enthusiastically about disco and Donna Summer. I'll keep looking for it.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 19, 2014 12:19:46 GMT -5
I hated Disco back then. I was heartbroken when Paul did "Goodnight Tonight." I didn't like Disco at the time it was huge either. I got to appreciate it later, and now I think it's very upbeat and fun stuff which is lacking in today's climate. I agree that Disco was fun, about good clean sex! I like it better now too! Last night my buddy and I allowed ourselves to be talked into going into our town's wildest, most dangerous bar and there was hardcore Hip Hop music being played by the DJ with a large screen playing freaky videos to that Rap and I tried my luck at dancing to that with the very young wife of the dude who talked us into going. It was the ugliest display of dancing ever as I couldn't get the gang handsigns down to the slow grind. I am very lucky I didn't get my ass kicked last night! Everyone except me, my buddy(both of us 51) and the dude who talked us into going(he is 45 but has major street creds as a car garage owner and his hot wife, 27) were in their early 20's. Now had it been good old fashioned 1970's Disco, I would have kicked ass on the dance floor!
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 19, 2014 13:28:04 GMT -5
Used to be that McCartney apologists owned up that Goodnight Tonight was disco, "but it's good disco". . whatever. Now they can't even acknowledge that, that a few bars of conga drums makes it a calypso song. never mind the disco 33 that came out at the time.
It's not like this was the only time in Paul's career he chased the trends in attempts to remain relevant. A lot of rock stars did that to stay on the charts as disco was all consuming in the late seventies. Why the revisionism? It happened, we moved on.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 19, 2014 13:31:24 GMT -5
Was there a disco version of Goodnight Tonight? I never have heard it. Must have been a b-side or something. Or one of those extended EPs. I certainly never heard it when I was out dancing in the discos. The standard version was more calypso or old music hall than disco. I agree with you. I have never considered "Goodnight Tonight" to be Disco. Just because they billed it as a "Disco 12" to capitalize on the craze doesn't mean it suddenly sounds like a full-fledged Disco Song. I think "Daytime Nightime Suffering" is more of a Disco sounding song. I'm not trying to run away from anything; I wish Paul had done a Disco LP.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 19, 2014 13:43:11 GMT -5
Used to be that McCartney apologists owned up that Goodnight Tonight was disco, "but it's good disco". . whatever. Now they can't even acknowledge that, that a few bars of conga drums makes it a calypso song. never mind the disco 33 that came out at the time. Like I said, an extended track or something. They took a lot of songs and added a disco beat and made them play out for a whole side of an LP. I guess that Beatles disco track made all the original versions disco too? The Beatles were always checking out other bands and other music styles. It wasn't to stay relevant. It was for inspiration. Dylan's poetic style, The Stone raunchiness/R and B style, The Who's loud hard rock...etc. Oh, oh, I left out Elvis, Buddy Holley, Little Richard, Chuck Berry.... Boy they were really trying to stay relevant when they started out. I wouldn't begin to make apologies for the most successful entertainer of all time.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 19, 2014 13:49:05 GMT -5
Was there a disco version of Goodnight Tonight? I never have heard it. Must have been a b-side or something. Or one of those extended EPs. I certainly never heard it when I was out dancing in the discos. The standard version was more calypso or old music hall than disco. I agree with you. I have never considered "Goodnight Tonight" to be Disco. Just because they billed it as a "Disco 12" to capitalize on the craze doesn't mean it suddenly sounds like a full-fledged Disco Song. I think "Daytime Nightime Suffering" is more of a Disco sounding song. I'm not trying to run away from anything; I wish Paul had done a Disco LP. I don't mind a little disco. If disco is songs like Goodnight Tonight, bring it on! The Donna Summer type tended to get a little boring.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 19, 2014 18:45:47 GMT -5
Used to be that McCartney apologists owned up that Goodnight Tonight was disco, "but it's good disco". . whatever. Now they can't even acknowledge that, that a few bars of conga drums makes it a calypso song. never mind the disco 33 that came out at the time. Like I said, an extended track or something. They took a lot of songs and added a disco beat and made them play out for a whole side of an LP. I guess that Beatles disco track made all the original versions disco too? The Beatles were always checking out other bands and other music styles. It wasn't to stay relevant. It was for inspiration. Dylan's poetic style, The Stone raunchiness/R and B style, The Who's loud hard rock...etc. Oh, oh, I left out Elvis, Buddy Holley, Little Richard, Chuck Berry.... Boy they were really trying to stay relevant when they started out. I wouldn't begin to make apologies for the most successful entertainer of all time. But Goodnight Tonight was a disco song. That's what it was. The Beatles took in a number if influences and made them their own, created something new. Can't say that for McCartney solo, sorry. where did solo Paul ever break new ground? I'm not sure the Beatles were the most successful entertainers of all time, let alone Paul. take his Beatle years away, and Paul is a successful performer but one of many in the pop music genre of its time. As successful as Springsteen? Stevie Wonder? Not likely. Elvis? Michael Jackson? No. The BEATLES were. Paul McCartney with and without Wings, no. how they compare to movie stars, sports stars, the man juggling the pins, who can judge?
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 19, 2014 18:47:25 GMT -5
I agree with you. I have never considered "Goodnight Tonight" to be Disco. Just because they billed it as a "Disco 12" to capitalize on the craze doesn't mean it suddenly sounds like a full-fledged Disco Song. I think "Daytime Nightime Suffering" is more of a Disco sounding song. I'm not trying to run away from anything; I wish Paul had done a Disco LP. I don't mind a little disco. If disco is songs like Goodnight Tonight, bring it on! The Donna Summer type tended to get a little boring. Hated disco. But Donna Summer was a real talent, what a voice!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 19, 2014 18:56:05 GMT -5
But Goodnight Tonight was a disco song. That's what it was. Nah, I don't think it was Disco. People can tell me that's what it was all they like (including Paul, if he's so inclined)... but it doesn't sound like a Disco record to me. The Guiness Book Of World Records lists The Beatles as "most successful", and Paul McCartney as solo "most successful". And Donna Summer - always loved her voice and music.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 19, 2014 18:57:58 GMT -5
Most successful entertainers? Paul McCartney solo is the most successful entertainer if all time, without factoring in the Beatle years?
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 19, 2014 19:01:54 GMT -5
Just checked. Guinness book lists Michael Jackson, not Paul McCartney.
Suppose it all had to do with The a Girl Is Mine.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 19, 2014 20:55:55 GMT -5
Most successful entertainers? Paul McCartney solo is the most successful entertainer if all time, without factoring in the Beatle years? Why would you not factor in the Beatle years? Paul was pretty successful during that time.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 19, 2014 21:11:20 GMT -5
Most successful entertainers? Paul McCartney solo is the most successful entertainer if all time, without factoring in the Beatle years? Why would you not factor in the Beatle years? Paul was pretty successful during that time. As were John George and Ringo. If we're talking about how successful a Paul was, how do you factor in the success if a group he was but a quarter of? Ok, you can win if you keep going. I don't intend to spend my life straightening out Macca fanboys and fangirls. I'll try to interject the truth sometimes, but it's not that important to me to talk you guys down when you keep going on supernatural powers the great McCartney has. I used to be a McCartney fan until I felt I had to lend some balance when some posters could only elevate Paul by putting down the other three (why is it only Paul fans do this?) maybe if I keep going I'll end up like JoeK, completing a 180 degree change of everything he's said before. I'm just not that interested. If you want to think McCartney created a brand of calypso rock, go ahead.
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Post by anyoneanyhow on Apr 19, 2014 21:13:00 GMT -5
Most successful entertainers? Paul McCartney solo is the most successful entertainer if all time, without factoring in the Beatle years? Why would you not factor in the Beatle years? Paul was pretty successful during that time. As were John George and Ringo. If we're talking about how successful a Paul was, how do you factor in the success if a group he was but a quarter of? Ok, you can win if you keep going. I don't intend to spend my life straightening out Macca fanboys and fangirls. I'll try to interject the truth sometimes, but it's not that important to me to talk you guys down when you keep going on supernatural powers the great McCartney has. I used to be a McCartney fan until I felt I had to lend some balance when some posters could only elevate Paul by putting down the other three (why is it only Paul fans do this?) maybe if I keep going I'll end up like JoeK, completing a 180 degree change of everything he's said before. I'm just not that interested. If you want to think McCartney created a brand of calypso rock, go ahead.
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