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Post by Panther on Mar 30, 2014 3:10:57 GMT -5
www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Run-Paul-McCartney-1970s/dp/1846972396Surprised not to see anything about this on here, yet. I haven't got it, but wondered if it's any good? Seems to be getting appreciative notices. Also seems to push the 'JSD Postulate', more or less. Book Description: "The most famous living rock musician on the planet, Paul McCartney is now regarded as a slightly cosy figure, an (inter)national treasure. Back in the 1970s, however, McCartney cut a very different figure. He was, literally, a man on the run. Desperately trying to escape the shadow of the Beatles, he became an outlaw hippy millionaire, hiding out on his Scottish farmhouse in Kintyre before travelling the world with makeshift bands and barefoot children. It was a time of numerous drug busts and brilliant, banned and occasionally baffling records. For McCartney, it was an edgy, liberating and sometimes frightening period of his life that has largely been forgotten. Man on the Run paints an illuminating picture: from McCartney's nervous breakdown following the Beatles' split through his apparent victimisation by the authorities to the rude awakening of his imprisonment for marijuana possession in Japan in 1980 and the shocking wake-up call of John Lennon's murder. Ultimately, it poses the question: if you were one quarter of the Beatles, could you really outrun your past?"
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Post by scousette on Mar 30, 2014 21:22:47 GMT -5
Well, this is interesting. I'm gonna read the reviews on Amazon before I commit to buying this.
JSD and RTP, please post here!!!
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Post by John S. Damm on Mar 31, 2014 11:59:48 GMT -5
Wow, this book does indeed sound intriguing!
I about choked though when I saw the title because the tentative title of my McCartney book(still being written) is Band in the Bum: Why The "Band On The Run" Album Began The Demise Of Paul McCartney's Artistic Integrity.
I must search this book out though so thanks panther for the head's up!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2014 7:00:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up.
I've ordered it from Amazon
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Post by Panther on Apr 12, 2014 19:56:35 GMT -5
This book is already on the shelves here in Tokyo... in Japanese! But I haven't seen an English version yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2014 6:23:31 GMT -5
This book is now on the shelf at my place, the unread Beatle/Solo books are starting to outnumber the read ones... I need to get a move on...
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Post by Panther on Apr 29, 2014 18:45:06 GMT -5
I've ordered this book from Amazon Japan. Should be here in a day or two. Looking forward, etc.
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Post by Panther on May 3, 2014 23:13:56 GMT -5
I've got Man on the Run: Paul McCartney in the 1970s now and have started reading it.
It's a bit odd, as the writer (a Scotsman, Tom Doyle) begins by outlining his history of interviews with Paul in recent years... all of which has nothing to do with Paul in the 70s. It comes off as him trying to establish his 'cred' as a Beatle authority or something... not necessary.
Anyway, once it gets going, it's an easy-to-read book in a nice style. It has to be said that 90% of what I've read so far is a re-hash of stuff we're all read 100 times before. I am looking forward to getting out of the immediate post-Beatle years, which is so well documented already. So far, I'm up to Wings hitting the road in February 1972 for the universities tour.
A few things so far struck me:
-- I didn't know (or had forgotten) that Paul said to Life magazine (dated: 7 November, 1969): "I would rather do what I began doing, which is making music. But the Beatle thing is over. It has been exploded, partly by what we have done, and partly by other people."
It's hilarious that this quote -- published in one of the world's biggest magazines, internationally -- was completely overlooked at the time. Yet, Paul's self-serving 'interview' in press copies of McCartney half a year later was blown out of proportion and jumped upon as evidence that 'Paul quits The Beatles' (which he never actually said).
-- You'd think 'Maybe I'm Amazed' -- Paul's pick as his greatest-ever song, and Rolling Stone's only Paul song on its '500 Greatest Songs of All-Time' would get more than a passing reference in this book. It doesn't.
-- Doyle claims that in October, 1970, Klein tried to bring the 4 Beatles back together. The story goes: "He instructed John to call Paul and say, 'We're recording next Friday, are you coming?' Dutifully, John did just that, having been advised by Klein that any signs of detente might limit Paul's powers in being able to legally extricate himself from the group.... Paul simply didn't show up."
I've never heard this story before... Accurate?
-- Then, according to Doyle, when Paul didn't show up, "the three others" worked on Ringo's 'Early 1970' together.
Again, I've never heard that John had anything to do with 'Early 1970' or was even present. Accurate?
-- Doyle then claims that in November 1970, the McCartneys, Harrison, and Lennon were all in New York (coincidentally) at the same time. "While there, John arranged a meeting with Paul. McCartney cancelled, and Lennon later claimed that he hadn't planned to turn up anyway." He says that Paul and George, however, did meet in person in New York, and Doyle claims this meeting was the site of George's famous "You'll say on the fucking label. Hare Krishna!" comment, although I distinctly remember Paul telling that this occurred on the phone.
Accurate?
-- Disappointingly, Doyle tells the John-threw-a-brick-through-Paul's-Cavendish-avenue-house tale yet again, having no sources for it other than "according to...eyewitness accounts".
-- Doyle writes that John and Paul's first face-to-face meeting post-1969 was at John and Yoko's apartment in Greenwich Village, on January 29th 1972 (the day before 'Bloody Sunday' in N.Ireland -- which they both immediately wrote songs about). This would be only three months after 'How Do you Sleep' came out.
Seems plausible, but I've never seen this date/location confirmed. Accurate?
More to follow...
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Post by mikev on May 4, 2014 0:03:54 GMT -5
I've got Man on the Run: Paul McCartney in the 1970s now and have started reading it. It's a bit odd, as the writer (a Scotsman, Tom Doyle) begins by outlining his history of interviews with Paul in recent years... all of which has nothing to do with Paul in the 70s. It comes off as him trying to establish his 'cred' as a Beatle authority or something... not necessary. Anyway, once it gets going, it's an easy-to-read book in a nice style. It has to be said that 90% of what I've read so far is a re-hash of stuff we're all read 100 times before. I am looking forward to getting out of the immediate post-Beatle years, which is so well documented already. So far, I'm up to Wings hitting the road in February 1972 for the universities tour. A few things so far struck me: -- I didn't know (or had forgotten) that Paul said to Life magazine (dated: 7 November, 1969): "I would rather do what I began doing, which is making music. But the Beatle thing is over. It has been exploded, partly by what we have done, and partly by other people." It's hilarious that this quote -- published in one of the world's biggest magazines, internationally -- was completely overlooked at the time. Yet, Paul's self-serving 'interview' in press copies of McCartney half a year later was blown out of proportion and jumped upon as evidence that 'Paul quits The Beatles' (which he never actually said). -- You'd think 'Maybe I'm Amazed' -- Paul's pick as his greatest-ever song, and Rolling Stone's only Paul song on its '500 Greatest Songs of All-Time' would get more than a passing reference in this book. It doesn't. -- Doyle claims that in October, 1970, Klein tried to bring the 4 Beatles back together. The story goes: "He instructed John to call Paul and say, 'We're recording next Friday, are you coming?' Dutifully, John did just that, having been advised by Klein that any signs of detente might limit Paul's powers in being able to legally extricate himself from the group.... Paul simply didn't show up." I've never heard this story before... Accurate? -- Then, according to Doyle, when Paul didn't show up, "the three others" worked on Ringo's 'Early 1970' together. Again, I've never heard that John had anything to do with 'Early 1970' or was even present. Accurate? -- Doyle then claims that in November 1970, the McCartneys, Harrison, and Lennon were all in New York (coincidentally) at the same time. "While there, John arranged a meeting with Paul. McCartney cancelled, and Lennon later claimed that he hadn't planned to turn up anyway." He says that Paul and George, however, did meet in person in New York, and Doyle claims this meeting was the site of George's famous "You'll say on the fucking label. Hare Krishna!" comment, although I distinctly remember Paul telling that this occurred on the phone. Accurate? -- Disappointingly, Doyle tells the John-threw-a-brick-through-Paul's-Cavendish-avenue-house tale yet again, having no sources for it other than "according to...eyewitness accounts". -- Doyle writes that John and Paul's first face-to-face meeting post-1969 was at John and Yoko's apartment in Greenwich Village, on January 29th 1972 (the day before 'Bloody Sunday' in N.Ireland -- which they both immediately wrote songs about). This would be only three months after 'How Do you Sleep' came out. Seems plausible, but I've never seen this date/location confirmed. Accurate? More to follow... Lennon said on Dick Cavett I believe around this time that he and Paul had lunch together, so that is not far fetched.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 8:00:35 GMT -5
I've got Man on the Run: Paul McCartney in the 1970s now and have started reading it. It's a bit odd, as the writer (a Scotsman, Tom Doyle) begins by outlining his history of interviews with Paul in recent years... all of which has nothing to do with Paul in the 70s. It comes off as him trying to establish his 'cred' as a Beatle authority or something... not necessary. Anyway, once it gets going, it's an easy-to-read book in a nice style. It has to be said that 90% of what I've read so far is a re-hash of stuff we're all read 100 times before. I am looking forward to getting out of the immediate post-Beatle years, which is so well documented already. So far, I'm up to Wings hitting the road in February 1972 for the universities tour. A few things so far struck me: -- I didn't know (or had forgotten) that Paul said to Life magazine (dated: 7 November, 1969): "I would rather do what I began doing, which is making music. But the Beatle thing is over. It has been exploded, partly by what we have done, and partly by other people." It's hilarious that this quote -- published in one of the world's biggest magazines, internationally -- was completely overlooked at the time. Yet, Paul's self-serving 'interview' in press copies of McCartney half a year later was blown out of proportion and jumped upon as evidence that 'Paul quits The Beatles' (which he never actually said). -- You'd think 'Maybe I'm Amazed' -- Paul's pick as his greatest-ever song, and Rolling Stone's only Paul song on its '500 Greatest Songs of All-Time' would get more than a passing reference in this book. It doesn't. -- Doyle claims that in October, 1970, Klein tried to bring the 4 Beatles back together. The story goes: "He instructed John to call Paul and say, 'We're recording next Friday, are you coming?' Dutifully, John did just that, having been advised by Klein that any signs of detente might limit Paul's powers in being able to legally extricate himself from the group.... Paul simply didn't show up." I've never heard this story before... Accurate? -- Then, according to Doyle, when Paul didn't show up, "the three others" worked on Ringo's 'Early 1970' together. Again, I've never heard that John had anything to do with 'Early 1970' or was even present. Accurate? -- Doyle then claims that in November 1970, the McCartneys, Harrison, and Lennon were all in New York (coincidentally) at the same time. "While there, John arranged a meeting with Paul. McCartney cancelled, and Lennon later claimed that he hadn't planned to turn up anyway." He says that Paul and George, however, did meet in person in New York, and Doyle claims this meeting was the site of George's famous "You'll say on the fucking label. Hare Krishna!" comment, although I distinctly remember Paul telling that this occurred on the phone. Accurate? -- Disappointingly, Doyle tells the John-threw-a-brick-through-Paul's-Cavendish-avenue-house tale yet again, having no sources for it other than "according to...eyewitness accounts". -- Doyle writes that John and Paul's first face-to-face meeting post-1969 was at John and Yoko's apartment in Greenwich Village, on January 29th 1972 (the day before 'Bloody Sunday' in N.Ireland -- which they both immediately wrote songs about). This would be only three months after 'How Do you Sleep' came out. Seems plausible, but I've never seen this date/location confirmed. Accurate? More to follow... Good work Panther, you don't muck around, when you get a book you read it, when i get a book i put it in the bookshelf and it could be an eon before i get to it.
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Post by Panther on May 5, 2014 7:50:02 GMT -5
I'm about 3/4 done now (it's not a long book).
Basically, the book is okay, but after Lewisohn raised the bar for Beatle-related historical writing, this kind of book isn't going to impress me. The musical analysis is minimal to non-existent, and the history part is entertaining but standard -- we've heard it all before. The book is fast-paced, skipping through periods that probably require three or four times the length to be dealt with adequately.
As mentioned above, there are a few little items of trivia that surprised me / raised my hackles of suspicion of accuracy. I can't say where Doyle got his info because he provides exactly no citations for anything (which is now terrible in the post-'Tune In' era), so apparently his sources are merely the scant less-than-2-pages of Beatle-related books in his 'Bibliography' -- a number of sources that most on this forum have probably casually read well in excess of.
There's nothing much here, sorry to say. I'm a bit disappointed.
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Post by stavros on May 11, 2014 6:53:29 GMT -5
I've got Man on the Run: Paul McCartney in the 1970s now and have started reading it. -- Then, according to Doyle, when Paul didn't show up, "the three others" worked on Ringo's 'Early 1970' together. Again, I've never heard that John had anything to do with 'Early 1970' or was even present. Accurate? John working on Early 1970 is referenced in Pete Doggett's book -You Never Give Me Your MoneyWhich seems to suggest that John worked on the song with Ringo but doesn't make it clear if he was actually on the record itself.
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Post by stavros on May 11, 2014 7:27:44 GMT -5
I've got Man on the Run: Paul McCartney in the 1970s -- Disappointingly, Doyle tells the John-threw-a-brick-through-Paul's-Cavendish-avenue-house tale yet again, having no sources for it other than "according to...eyewitness accounts". This has been repeated in a couple of TV documentaries (I think it was in BBCs Lennon Naked about 4 years ago). It is not entirely without foundation although there may not have been any brick throwing involved. Ian McDonald's - Revolution in the Head There are also a couple of pictures of John outside McCartney's home. One of him scaling the wall! However the appearance of Mr Lennon in these photos, if genuine, seems to be around the time of the filming of Let it Be, not the making of Abbey Road. The trees are also bare which would place the time of the photos in the depths of an English winter.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 12, 2014 9:48:39 GMT -5
Those two photos of John outside Paul's home are amazing (especially the one where he is scaling the wall). I've never seen them before. Go, Johnny, Go!
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Post by vectisfabber on May 12, 2014 10:06:13 GMT -5
Wearing that scabby Let It Be fur coat, too.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 12, 2014 12:15:12 GMT -5
Wearing that scabby Let It Be fur coat, too. LOL, Yoko's fur coat as it is too small for John! Amazing photos!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on May 12, 2014 12:30:45 GMT -5
LOL, Yoko's fur coat as it is too small for John! I still wonder about that. Are we sure it's Yoko's and not John's? I've seen Yoko wearing the fur too, especially in the photo displayed on the back of the "Life With The Lions" cover where they're being swamped and Yoko's freaking out. But is John lending Yoko his coat for that distressful event, or was it Yoko lending John HER coat? It seems that John is seen wearing the fur far more often than Yoko is. A quick Google photo search shows many pics of John in a fur from 1968 and 1969. In one photo, little Julian is sitting with John and Yoko; John's wearing the brown fur, and Yoko's got a black fur on.
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Post by stavros on May 12, 2014 13:39:03 GMT -5
The photos are from the Oct 1996 edition of Mojo. It's possible, that it is John's fur coat. He seemed to like wearing them a lot. John and Yoko were still covering up in the late 1970s with fur. And to get the thread back onto the original topic of the book it seems that the story of John throwing a brick through Paul's window may be an amalgamation of both fact and fiction. Badman's Beatle's After the Break Up says: So, even if there is some truth, when did this alleged incident really happen. During the Let it Be sessions? During Abbey Road sessions or even later after the split in 1971?
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Post by Panther on May 13, 2014 5:40:31 GMT -5
I think we can say with 99% likelihood that it never happened, but never let the truth get in the way of a good story!
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Post by stavros on Jul 1, 2014 15:13:46 GMT -5
Found a couple of reviews from the Daily Mail (not a newspaper I am particularly fond of but hey!) and Boston Globe on "Man on the Run". Daily Mail reviewThe above one tells me nothing really that I didn't know. Some interesting snippets This sort of re-inforces Panther's review for me. Not a great book but not a bad read either. So it's on the nice to have list for me and might pick it up at a later date.
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Post by nicole21290 on Jul 1, 2014 22:23:22 GMT -5
-- Doyle claims that in October, 1970, Klein tried to bring the 4 Beatles back together. The story goes: "He instructed John to call Paul and say, 'We're recording next Friday, are you coming?' Dutifully, John did just that, having been advised by Klein that any signs of detente might limit Paul's powers in being able to legally extricate himself from the group.... Paul simply didn't show up." I've never heard this story before... Accurate? -- Then, according to Doyle, when Paul didn't show up, "the three others" worked on Ringo's 'Early 1970' together. Again, I've never heard that John had anything to do with 'Early 1970' or was even present. Accurate? -- Doyle then claims that in November 1970, the McCartneys, Harrison, and Lennon were all in New York (coincidentally) at the same time. "While there, John arranged a meeting with Paul. McCartney cancelled, and Lennon later claimed that he hadn't planned to turn up anyway." He says that Paul and George, however, did meet in person in New York, and Doyle claims this meeting was the site of George's famous "You'll say on the fucking label. Hare Krishna!" comment, although I distinctly remember Paul telling that this occurred on the phone. Accurate? The first one, yes. It was a horrible manipulative plan and John talked about it in 1971 with McCabe at the St Regis Hotel. Parts were published in that 1972 Apple to the Core book, though the full text didn't come to light until 1984, IIRC: Q: ...we gather that Klein was still hoping that Paul would return to the group.
John: Oh, he'd love it if Paul would come back. I think he was hoping he would for years and years. He thought that if he did something, to show Paul that he could do it, Paul would come around. But no chance. I mean, I want him to come out of it, too, you know. He will one day. I give him five years, I've said that. In five years he'll wake up.
Q: What else was Klein doing to try and lure Paul back?
John: [laughs] One of his reasons for trying to get Paul back was that Paul would have forfeited his right to split by joining us again. We tried to con him into recording with us too. Allen came up with this plan. He said, "Just ring Paul and say, 'We're recording next Friday, are you coming?' " So it nearly happened. It got around that the Beatles were getting together again, because EMI heard that the Beatles had booked recording time again. But Paul would never, never do it, for anything, and now I would never do it. - Re. 1970. No, he wasn't present. However, Doggett says he was present a few days earlier where Lennon, Klaus and Ringo laid down a skeleton of the song. From some of Chip Madinger's posts on the Steve Hoffman forum: ' Early 1970' was recorded during a break in the Plastic Ono Band sessions, on October 3rd, 1970. However, John does not play on the track.
Who plays on "Early 1970"? I always assumed it was George Harrison playing slide guitar there ... George was not booked that evening at E.M.I., so he's on electric. Klaus Voormann played bass, piano was Billy Preston and the acoustic guitar was Stephen Stills. It was recorded under the title "When I Come To Town (4 Knights In Moscow)" in Studio Three. Also taped that night was the aptly-titled, "Happy Birthday, John" Believe it or not, John was at home that night, in bed, watching TV - specifically, "On Trial: The Chicago Conspiracy Trial" on BBC1.The credits on Photograph: the very best of Ringo Starr, however, say this: Drums, acoustic guitar, piano = Ringo Starr Acoustic guitar, piano, electric slide guitar = George Harrison Bass, acoustic guitar and dobro = Klaus Voormann - They were all in New York at the time. In Peter Doggett's book, he says the conversation between George and Paul took place there; the quote he uses is from Many Years From Now, where Paul doesn't specify where it took place. I remember having one classic conversation with George Harrison, I said, 'Look, George, I want to get off the label,' and George ended the conversation, and as I say it now I almost feel like I'm lying with the devil's tongue, but I swear George said to me, 'You'll stay on the fucking label. Hare Krishna.' That's how it was, that's how the times were.What this new book says is identical to Doggett and it looks pretty well copied word for word... The reality was that Lennon had arranged a meeting with McCartney in Manhattan, but McCartney had cancelled the appointment. Just as well, Lennon revealed later, as he hadn't planned to turn up either. At the moment, I can't recall the source for that tidbit, though, sorry.
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Post by Panther on Jul 19, 2014 9:29:54 GMT -5
Thanks for that info, Nicole.
Regarding the Klein-suggested recording invitation in 1970, however, John's words (above) don't specify that anyone actually invited Paul to a session. He just says that Klein had this idea, and "it nearly happened". He probably means that they "nearly" called Paul to invite him, not that Paul nearly came.
I think Tom Doyle misinterprets this, because he clearly writes that they did invite Paul to a "Beatles" recording session in 1970.
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