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Post by sayne on Jul 23, 2014 1:52:04 GMT -5
I don't know about the actual play, but I saw the movie today and was somewhat put-off by the Ringo insult at the end of the movie. If you've seen it, am I over-reacting or were you okay with it?
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 23, 2014 11:10:51 GMT -5
Now I must go see this film. I wasn't aware of any such insult.
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 23, 2014 12:19:22 GMT -5
First rate show. The film was OK. I didn't register any Ringo thing, but it wouldn't have worried me if I had - it's a line in a film.
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Post by sayne on Jul 23, 2014 16:57:38 GMT -5
First rate show. The film was OK. I didn't register any Ringo thing, but it wouldn't have worried me if I had - it's a line in a film. If you were Ringo, not knowing you were going to be named, would you have thought that line was a compliment? What if you were Barbara Bach. Would you have been happy for your husband when you heard it? It was a joke at Ringo's expense. One of my complaints about the movie is that there was absolutely no mention of any other 1960s performers. It was as if the Four Seasons were in a vacuum. In fact, I think Ed Sullivan and Topo Gigio were the only 60s references. In reality, I bet the Four Seasons HAD to have had some reaction to the Beatles when they saw them on Ed Sullivan. Either an "Oh, shit" moment, or "Those guys suck, we're better" or something. The only pop/rock reference I recall was of Ringo and it was disrespectful, to me. It was based on an in accurate meme that Ringo did not matter and that he was insignificant.
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Post by vectisfabber on Jul 24, 2014 3:23:27 GMT -5
You attached a lot more weight to it than I did, then.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 24, 2014 9:01:42 GMT -5
The movie is a filmed version of the Broadway musical, so the storyline is closely going to adhere to the plot of the play and focus on the main characters and their initial relationships. The movie biographies of the Beatles like Backbeat and Nowhere Boy didn't really reference other music stars at the time either but mostly focused on the main characters as well.
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Post by sayne on Jul 24, 2014 13:29:07 GMT -5
The movie is a filmed version of the Broadway musical, so the storyline is closely going to adhere to the plot of the play and focus on the main characters and their initial relationships. The movie biographies of the Beatles like Backbeat and Nowhere Boy didn't really reference other music stars at the time either but mostly focused on the main characters as well. Yes, but the movie did manage to put in a clip of Clint Eastwood in a movie or TV appearance as a nod to who was directing the movie. That Eastwood clip wasn't in the stage production. So much for adhering to the play. Movies of stage productions are adaptations, not recreations, or else we would be seeing the stage production on film. My guess is that if Clint Eastwood was more of a rock fan, rather than a jazzoid, he would have worked some historical pop/rock context into the movie. It would have made what was going on with the Four Seasons more filled out. It's like American Graffiti or Apocalypse Now. The music of the times helped put the settings of the films in perspective. I'm not saying that the entire Top 40 should have been in the soundtrack because you're right, the movie is about the Four Seasons. But, a mention here or there about someone who was a peer would have been good. Also, seeing as how I have an album in my house titled The Beatles vs the Four Seasons, I think a Fab Four mention would have been in order.
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Post by OldFred on Jul 24, 2014 20:31:16 GMT -5
The movie is a filmed version of the Broadway musical, so the storyline is closely going to adhere to the plot of the play and focus on the main characters and their initial relationships. The movie biographies of the Beatles like Backbeat and Nowhere Boy didn't really reference other music stars at the time either but mostly focused on the main characters as well. Yes, but the movie did manage to put in a clip of Clint Eastwood in a movie or TV appearance as a nod to who was directing the movie. That Eastwood clip wasn't in the stage production. So much for adhering to the play. He's the director of the movie. The way I see it, he was doing a 'Hitchcock' cameo appearance in his own movie.
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