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Post by sallyg on Apr 20, 2015 3:51:44 GMT -5
JSD and RockoRoll, it is strange that Ringo didn't perform any solo songs. I would have liked to have heard Photograph and maybe one or two from his new album Postcards From Paradise. Maybe he picked a Beatles song because Paul and the other musicians were more familiar with that.
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Post by RockoRoll on Apr 20, 2015 6:58:21 GMT -5
JSD and RockoRoll, it is strange that Ringo didn't perform any solo songs. I would have liked to have heard Photograph and maybe one or two from his new album Postcards From Paradise. Maybe he picked a Beatles song because Paul and the other musicians were more familiar with that. Nothing new Sallyg, never understand his selection of songs and why he chooses the same songs whether Beatle or Solo (even *Photograph*, has been overplayed), and why he's never preformed an entire concert, or got a decent band together? Allstar, allstars, thats all you hear? |
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Post by dcshark on Apr 20, 2015 7:36:16 GMT -5
JSD and RockoRoll, it is strange that Ringo didn't perform any solo songs. I would have liked to have heard Photograph and maybe one or two from his new album Postcards From Paradise. Maybe he picked a Beatles song because Paul and the other musicians were more familiar with that. Nothing new Sallyg, never understand his selection of songs and why he chooses the same songs whether Beatle or Solo (even *Photograph*, has been overplayed), and why he's never preformed an entire concert, or got a decent band together? Allstar, allstars, thats all you hear? He played "It Don't Come Easy.' |
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 20, 2015 13:21:01 GMT -5
Nothing new Sallyg, never understand his selection of songs and why he chooses the same songs whether Beatle or Solo (even *Photograph*, has been overplayed), and why he's never preformed an entire concert, or got a decent band together? Allstar, allstars, thats all you hear? He played "It Don't Come Easy.' I am pleased to hear that! The single "It Don't Come Easy/Early 1970" and the album RINGO by themselves are RRHF worthy! Throw in some other singles like "Back Off Boogaloo" and albums like GV and the great 1992 album Time Takes Time with the classic "Don't Do Where The Road Don't Go," a song that rocks as hard as any Solo Beatles' song, and you have an easy argument for Ringo as an artist worthy of solo induction. Then throw in Ringo's involvement as drummer on John Lennon's POB album, a drummer through much of George Harrison's ATMP, his involvement at The Concert For Bangladesh and even his years of All-Starr Tours, especially early on, that assembled some amazing talent and you have a solo career that no one can say is not RRHF worthy. And under The Snookeroo Postulate, kudos to Ringo for being among the first major male Rock Stars to tackle the classic songs of the 1930's through 1950's and doing an entire C&W album with the best cats from Nashville. Those two forgotten albums are RRHF worthy for artistic bravery alone Even the bad stuff Ringo did between GV and TTT is part of the Rock and Roll story or ethos: the talented artist so f-ing out of his mind that he puts out crap. And Ringo survived that, in fact one of the earlier Rock survivors. While his albums since TTT are not as a whole RRHF worthy, there are some great songs sprinkled in there and nothing is as bad as "Ringo's Dark Years." Nah, Paul should have started his induction words in 1970 but that of course would be edgy and uncomfortable. It would also be f-ing Rock and Roll! And Ringo should have done the same: Okay The Beatles are done, what was I going to do! Ringo did it his way both good and the bad and with some help from his friends biut still that was the last song that should have been sung Saturday night. A cool set would be: 1. I'm The Greatest 2. Photograph 3. It Don't Come Easy 4. Don't Go Where The Road Don't Go, leading into 5. Back Off Boogaloo with Paul, Joan Jett and the Green Day guys just rocking out. |
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Post by sallyg on Apr 20, 2015 20:56:00 GMT -5
He played "It Don't Come Easy.'
Thanks for posting this. It's difficult to know what was played when they only have snippets and not the a video of the entire show. I'm glad he performed at least one solo song.
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Post by sallyg on Apr 20, 2015 21:07:24 GMT -5
JSD and RockoRoll, it is strange that Ringo didn't perform any solo songs. I would have liked to have heard Photograph and maybe one or two from his new album Postcards From Paradise. Maybe he picked a Beatles song because Paul and the other musicians were more familiar with that. Nothing new Sallyg, never understand his selection of songs and why he chooses the same songs whether Beatle or Solo (even *Photograph*, has been overplayed), and why he's never preformed an entire concert, or got a decent band together? Allstar, allstars, thats all you hear? I saw Ringo in concert last summer and I like the latest line up of the Allstar band. |
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Post by sayne on Apr 20, 2015 21:25:54 GMT -5
Nothing new Sallyg, never understand his selection of songs and why he chooses the same songs whether Beatle or Solo (even *Photograph*, has been overplayed), and why he's never preformed an entire concert, or got a decent band together? Allstar, allstars, thats all you hear? I saw Ringo in concert last summer and I like the latest line up of the Allstar band. That's okay if one has never seen Ringo before, but hasn't he been stuck with these guys for the past couple of tours? I like how the ALL-Starr bands changed through the tours. It was soooo daring and off the wall to have Greg Lake, Sheila E, Ian Hunter, Howard Jones, and Roger Hodgson. Who thought that would work? But, it did, in spades. I remember way back when some of us were looking forward to Ringo bringing in new wave/punk-type artists, but he never went in that direction, except for maybe Howard Jones and Wally Palmer of the Romantics. Can you imagine if Ringo had brought in members of Duran Duran, Blondie, X, the Bangles, the Go-Gos, Midnight Oil, Gary Numan, the Cars, etc. Lost opportunity. |
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 21, 2015 6:20:05 GMT -5
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 21, 2015 18:32:10 GMT -5
Paul's speech was a little too "off the cuff" for me as well. His speech to induct John was much more prepared and organized. Sometimes I think Paul tries to act a little too "juvenile", like he is cool and with it around the young crowd. You are in your early 70's now Paul, and a respected elder statesman of Rock & Roll, not a teenybopper trying to be cool. The shaking of your head to get your hair out of the way too, when you are speaking, is a bit much... |
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Apr 22, 2015 6:03:19 GMT -5
Paul's speech was a little too "off the cuff" for me as well. His speech to induct John was much more prepared and organized. Sometimes I think Paul tries to act a little too "juvenile", like he is cool and with it around the young crowd. You are in your early 70's now Paul, and a respected elder statesman of Rock & Roll, not a teenybopper trying to be cool. The shaking of your head to get your hair out of the way too, when you are speaking, is a bit much... And the whole bit with Paul disingenuously calling Pete Best "great", when he never really felt that way -- what was up with that?? |
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Post by mikev on Apr 22, 2015 12:54:29 GMT -5
Paul's speech was a little too "off the cuff" for me as well. His speech to induct John was much more prepared and organized. Sometimes I think Paul tries to act a little too "juvenile", like he is cool and with it around the young crowd. You are in your early 70's now Paul, and a respected elder statesman of Rock & Roll, not a teenybopper trying to be cool. The shaking of your head to get your hair out of the way too, when you are speaking, is a bit much... And the whole bit with Paul disingenuously calling Pete Best "great", when he never really felt that way -- what was up with that?? Yeah, and I just bet that made Pete Best's day  |
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Post by markc on Apr 22, 2015 14:55:45 GMT -5
Are there any photos with Ringo and Pete in the same frame? Like one of those Hamburg photos of the Beatles and Rory or Ringo and the Beatles.
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Post by Panther on Apr 29, 2015 20:50:37 GMT -5
This is why I don't think he should be 'in' (still confused if he is or not). Ringo is clearly being given the Hall of Fame membership card because he was a Beatle, and not for his 'solo' work. His and Paul's words, and the songs played, highlight this fact. So, "Ringo Starr" should not be in.
Oh well, anything with Jann Wenner in charge has got to be pretty crap.
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Post by debjorgo on Apr 29, 2015 23:12:10 GMT -5
I think Ringo deserves to be in for his solo career.
But I think what really happened was he got in so Paul would show up for another show. Paul even took over lead vocals for I Want to Be Your Man. I think it was really Paul getting in again for helping Ringo in his career. Paul got a "Ringo is inducted for his solo career award" award.
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 30, 2015 10:38:05 GMT -5
I think Ringo deserves to be in for his solo career. But I think what really happened was he got in so Paul would show up for another show. Paul even took over lead vocals for I Want to Be Your Man. I think it was really Paul getting in again for helping Ringo in his career. Paul got a "Ringo is inducted for his solo career award" award.  Paul realizes that he made the biggest mistake of his life by boycotting The Beatles Induction in 1988 and is trying to make-up for that boneheaded move ever since! |
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Post by lowbasso on Apr 30, 2015 11:46:40 GMT -5
This is why I don't think he should be 'in' (still confused if he is or not). Ringo is clearly being given the Hall of Fame membership card because he was a Beatle, and not for his 'solo' work. His and Paul's words, and the songs played, highlight this fact. So, "Ringo Starr" should not be in. Oh well, anything with Jann Wenner in charge has got to be pretty crap. Paul probably now feels he has done his Penance by inducting both John and Ringo into the HOF after skipping The Beatles Induction. And Ringo was sober this time around for his "solo" induction. He was so blitzed at The Beatles induction, you could even see it on George's face that he was concerned for his fellow band mate that night. I am sure Ringo has no memory of that evening. He even said a few nights before this induction; "I am going to remember this one"....... So we'll chaulk this induction up to Ringo getting a chance to have a sober opportunity to celebrate himself as a Beatle going into the HOF. |
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Post by debjorgo on May 2, 2015 21:15:28 GMT -5
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Post by winstonoboogie on May 3, 2015 14:22:52 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that, debjorgo!  |
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Post by Snookeroo on May 29, 2015 18:03:44 GMT -5
One aspect that I think is worth mentioning, and never seems to be, is the All Starr Band thing. Ringo has given a pretty large stage for some top-flight musicians to play live on a tour. Some of these people's biggest period of fame is quite a ways behind them. Ringo provides a real nice spotlight for them, and we get a kick-ass band.
I remember when I saw the first tour. I walked away thrilled to have seen Ringo, and then I thought about thye great line up, and the great songs that I just saw live.
A nice contribution to rock and roll as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by John S. Damm on May 30, 2015 11:15:50 GMT -5
One aspect that I think is worth mentioning, and never seems to be, is the All Starr Band thing. Ringo has given a pretty large stage for some top-flight musicians to play live on a tour. Some of these people's biggest period of fame is quite a ways behind them. Ringo provides a real nice spotlight for them, and we get a kick-ass band. I remember when I saw the first tour. I walked away thrilled to have seen Ringo, and then I thought about thye great line up, and the great songs that I just saw live. A nice contribution to rock and roll as far as I'm concerned. I agree and I even threw in The Snookeroo Postulate in my post from the dark ages of April 20th when I was making the easy argument why Ringo deserves in the RRHF as a solo artist:: " The single "It Don't Come Easy/Early 1970" and the album RINGO by themselves are RRHF worthy! Throw in some other singles like "Back Off Boogaloo" and albums like GV and the great 1992 album Time Takes Time with the classic "Don't Do Where The Road Don't Go," a song that rocks as hard as any Solo Beatles' song, and you have an easy argument for Ringo as an artist worthy of solo induction. Then throw in Ringo's involvement as drummer on John Lennon's POB album, a drummer through much of George Harrison's ATMP, his involvement at The Concert For Bangladesh and even his years of All-Starr Tours, especially early on, that assembled some amazing talent and you have a solo career that no one can say is not RRHF worthy.
And under The Snookeroo Postulate, kudos to Ringo for being among the first major male Rock Stars to tackle the classic songs of the 1930's through 1950's and doing an entire C&W album with the best cats from Nashville. Those two forgotten albums are RRHF worthy for artistic bravery alone
Even the bad stuff Ringo did between GV and TTT is part of the Rock and Roll story or ethos: the talented artist so f-ing out of his mind that he puts out crap. And Ringo survived that, in fact one of the earlier Rock survivors. While his albums since TTT are not as a whole RRHF worthy, there are some great songs sprinkled in there and nothing is as bad as "Ringo's Dark Years."
Nah, Paul should have started his induction words in 1970 but that of course would be edgy and uncomfortable. It would also be f-ing Rock and Roll! And Ringo should have done the same: Okay The Beatles are done, what was I going to do! Ringo did it his way both good and the bad and with some help from his friends biut still that was the last song that should have been sung Saturday night." Of course, both Paul and Ringo were oblivious as to what Ringo was being inducted for and both mostly talked Beatles.  Sometimes they need to check their egos at the door and stop and learn why they are going to an event. Ringo might have been pleased to learn this was an induction as a SOLO artist had he taken the time to listen to some peasant assistant of his. Same with Paul but he probably had his daughter Mary McCartney write his induction speech, Mary the stalwart interviewer/researcher on the forgotten, bi-polar Wingspan. |
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 14, 2015 16:24:54 GMT -5
Here's some more footage from the event. Backstage |
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Post by sayne on Jul 15, 2015 16:12:12 GMT -5
This is why I don't think he should be 'in' (still confused if he is or not). Ringo is clearly being given the Hall of Fame membership card because he was a Beatle, and not for his 'solo' work. His and Paul's words, and the songs played, highlight this fact. So, "Ringo Starr" should not be in. Oh well, anything with Jann Wenner in charge has got to be pretty crap. Assuming that Ringo was inducted for being in the Beatles only, here's an analogy I've used before to justify his inclusion. I don't know if FIFA has a Hall of Fame, but let's say they do. Suppose they wanted to induct one of the Manchester United teams that David Beckham was on. Every member of the team would be part of the induction, even the benchwarmers. Now, years later, they decide to induct David Beckham. Well, one could say that he was already in, but that would not be true. Manchester United was in, not David Beckham. His induction as an individual would be for his singular contribution to the whole of the team. This would indicate his role on the team and his contributions to soccer as a whole as being meritorious over that of a third-string player. So, taking this back to Ringo, he could have been inducted for his singular importance to the Beatles. I think many of us here would say that unlike other bands who maybe had 2 key members and 2-3 that could be substituted freely (Jethro Tull, YES, Dave Clark Five, etc), the Beatles probably would not have been "THE BEATLES" without Ringo, equally to the others. Having said that, I think Ringo was in for his individual contributions to the Beatles, and also for being personally influential as a musician, plus 45 additional years of still being out there playing the game. Either way, as an important individual contributor to the Beatles or as a solo artist or both, Ringo should have been inducted. |
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Post by debjorgo on Jul 15, 2015 18:07:02 GMT -5
This is why I don't think he should be 'in' (still confused if he is or not). Ringo is clearly being given the Hall of Fame membership card because he was a Beatle, and not for his 'solo' work. His and Paul's words, and the songs played, highlight this fact. So, "Ringo Starr" should not be in. Oh well, anything with Jann Wenner in charge has got to be pretty crap. Assuming that Ringo was inducted for being in the Beatles only, here's an analogy I've used before to justify his inclusion. I don't know if FIFA has a Hall of Fame, but let's say they do. Suppose they wanted to induct one of the Manchester United teams that David Beckham was on. Every member of the team would be part of the induction, even the benchwarmers. Now, years later, they decide to induct David Beckham. Well, one could say that he was already in, but that would not be true. Manchester United was in, not David Beckham. His induction as an individual would be for his singular contribution to the whole of the team. This would indicate his role on the team and his contributions to soccer as a whole as being meritorious over that of a third-string player. So, taking this back to Ringo, he could have been inducted for his singular importance to the Beatles. I think many of us here would say that unlike other bands who maybe had 2 key members and 2-3 that could be substituted freely (Jethro Tull, YES, Dave Clark Five, etc), the Beatles probably would not have been "THE BEATLES" without Ringo, equally to the others. Having said that, I think Ringo was in for his individual contributions to the Beatles, and also for being personally influential as a musician, plus 45 additional years of still being out there playing the game. Either way, as an important individual contributor to the Beatles or as a solo artist or both, Ringo should have been inducted. And after all, Ringo was the best drummer in the Beatles. |
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Post by winstonoboogie on Jul 18, 2015 21:26:57 GMT -5
Here's some more footage from the event. BackstageOnce again, debjorgo, thanks for the link! I especially loved when Stevie Wonder said "Yes!" without hesitation when Paul and Ringo (jokingly told him that they were getting the band together, and did he want to join? Man, how cool what that be.....(I know, stop dreaming, Winston!)  |
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Post by John S. Damm on Jul 26, 2015 13:12:55 GMT -5
Here's some more footage from the event. BackstageI just watched this. Not a bad video but it is worth noting that MPL produced it so Paul apparently does have his own film crew follow him for big events to capture this spontaneity! I suppose that is the best time to approach Paul as a fan, if his film crew is in tow filming. He must be nice then!  |
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Sometimes they need to check their egos at the door and stop and learn why they are going to an event. Ringo might have been pleased to learn this was an induction as a SOLO artist had he taken the time to listen to some peasant assistant of his. Same with Paul but he probably had his daughter Mary McCartney write his induction speech, Mary the stalwart interviewer/researcher on the forgotten, bi-polar Wingspan.
