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Post by RockoRoll on Apr 5, 2015 7:50:02 GMT -5
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Post by sayne on Apr 5, 2015 10:47:35 GMT -5
Here's a Wiki article on her. Looks like she was pretty big in her day. When she "hipped" herself up in the 60's, I think she was pretty hot in that "Mrs. Robinson" kind of way. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_Cogan
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Post by John S. Damm on Apr 8, 2015 9:16:27 GMT -5
I think I have seen Cogan's name thrown around as someone John had an affair with but I had never read anything about her. Weird how this all gets press now with the passing of Cynthia. The "reincarnation" aspect is weird. I can't tell if Cynthia meant that literally or that John just viewed Cogan as someone with a personality like his mother. Cogan was alive when Julia was alive. I didn't think reincarnation worked like that.
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Apr 8, 2015 18:08:55 GMT -5
I think I have seen Cogan's name thrown around as someone John had an affair with but I had never read anything about her. Weird how this all gets press now with the passing of Cynthia. The "reincarnation" aspect is weird. I can't tell if Cynthia meant that literally or that John just viewed Cogan as someone with a personality like his mother. Cogan was alive when Julia was alive. I didn't think reincarnation worked like that. John, I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to the Alma Cogan story. I'd be more curious about what Lewisohn has to say.
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Post by scousette on Apr 9, 2015 10:19:37 GMT -5
Lewisohn's book on the Lennon-Cogan years won't be out for at least 10 years.
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Post by cosmo on Apr 11, 2015 16:40:07 GMT -5
Confused- I thought Paul wrote "Yestersay" on the piano in his flat at the Ashers'? I can see John wanting a "Mimi" figure in his life to tell him what to do (so he could ignore her!) but a Mimi figure that he would sleep with?? Confused again!
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Post by pegasus on Jul 31, 2015 5:32:30 GMT -5
Alma Cogan was a MASSIVE Star in Britan in the fifties - she had alot of hits (on EMI's HMV label & a final hit in 1962 on Columbia))
- Alma also had her own TV show on BBC and she was a fine singer with great range - however she was primarily known for her comedy records such as 'Never Do a Tango with an Eskimo', 'In The Middle of The House', 'Twenty Tiny Fingers' - she was known as 'The Girl with the 'Laugh" in her voice' as she always sounded so bright, vivacious, and happy-go-lucky (something similar to Connie Francis in the USA) etc
Alma wore expensive sequined dresses on her fifties TV show and was a rare fifties star who updated herself well to the sixties look
Alma had a later overseas hit with 'Love Ya Illya' (re David mcCallum's character in 'The Man From UNCLE'), her celebrated London parties drew in everyone in showbiz, from visiting American stars such as Danny Kaye, Sammy Davis Jnr to Roger Moore (then 'The Saint'), Michael Caine, and many pop stars....hence The Beatles became part of her 'in crowd' and Alama & John hit it off immediately
There is some 'Ready Steady Go !' footage of John being interviewed by Keith Fordyce when Alama looking glamourous walks by them with a placard urging them to play her new single - John cheekily says 'lets hear 'T-T-T-Tennessee Waltz' ...by Alma WARREN ! - Alma lifts the placard as if to crown John with it...Lennon quickly dives away grinning, the record begins & you can see John & Alma chatting away while it plays & the crowd dance...
John & Alma apparently (it's been said) had a torrid HOT affair ! and were close 'soul mates' thereafter
Paul first played 'Yesterday's melody with 'Scrambled eggs' lyrics to Alma as he knew her musical knowledge was vast & she'd know if it was an existing melody...Alma confirmed it was NOT !
Alma cut several great Beatle covers in a big band style - 'I Feel Fine', 'Help', 'Eight Days A Week' etc with the possibility of her doing an album of Beatle songs
she was due to appear on the panel of BBC's 'Juke Box Jury' TV show but was taken ill and Lulu took her place
Alma collapsed and was rushed to hospital...sadly she had cancer and was taken from us in her early 30's in the early months of 1966 - all were saddened and deeply shocked, many top showbiz 'names' were at her funeral, John was particularly upset (I think The Beatles were overseas at the time but they were all devastated at her sudden loss)
In 1967 EMI released a posthumous Album 'Alma' on Columbia records of unissued songs with tribute from Disc Jockey Alan 'Fluff' Freeman
in recent years several CD compilations and 'Best of...' sets have kept Alma's great music alive, she was a far stronger singer with big band and full orchestra than her most famous commonly known comedy or novelty hits of the fifties would indicate, and the three or four albums she recorded still sound strong today.
John, Paul, George and Ringo were good friends of Alma Cogan and they we introduced to many influential showbiz figures via their friendship with her.
I bet John & Alma have renewed their relationship !
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