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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 10, 2015 11:59:52 GMT -5
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 10, 2015 13:56:10 GMT -5
This is very cool and I was happy to see it all over the internet today! I hope there is more to come!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 6:53:37 GMT -5
Good find, that is one weird looking axe..
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Post by markc on Aug 11, 2015 8:38:40 GMT -5
Was this video made at the time of the Lennon Anthology?
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 11, 2015 10:13:07 GMT -5
Was this video made at the time of the Lennon Anthology? From what I've read on the internet, the Cheap Trick guys and animation, yes. The footage of John playing guitar no. Someone has speculated that the John footage might not even be John playing "I'm Losing You" but perhaps John jamming on a Yoko track and thus the footage survived but this Revolver person used it for "I'm Losing You" because John is rocking out. But it by all accounts seems to be John at the DF sessions and that is amazing and historic if all too brief.
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Post by stavros on Aug 12, 2015 17:04:51 GMT -5
I could've sworn I've seen a few seconds of this footage of John before! But maybe it's one of those Deja Vu moments?
Anyway I love this version with Cheap Trick. It has a raw "Yer Blues" type feel to it and wish John had used this version on the DF album.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 12, 2015 20:03:10 GMT -5
A new Beautiful Boy with additional footage set to the Stripped Down version.
Again courtesy of Revolution Records & Video.
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 13, 2015 6:54:18 GMT -5
More great previously unseen footage. Lennonmania!
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Post by Joe Karlosi on Aug 20, 2015 9:21:19 GMT -5
Well, Yoko has now pulled the video(s) due to copyright violation. I honestly don't fault her for that, and I understand why she did it. I was actually surprised that she hadn't removed them much sooner. But I have faith that the videos were up long enough for those who specialize in these rarities to have captured them. I have a feeling that the footage of John doing "I'm Losing You" and Sean's Birthday Party will keep surfacing on collector's DVDs.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 20, 2015 11:47:49 GMT -5
I agree Joe, no sense anyone getting mad at Yoko as she has a duty to protect John's image and music. I also remain optimistic that someday soon we will get official releases of as much 1980 film footage of John as possible.
That would be a good project for Yoko to work on as we approach the 35th anniversary of the release of Double Fantasy but more realistically maybe the 40th in 2020 is when we could get it! Imagine!
As to Double Fantasy, Joe mentioned "Lennonmania" in a post above and those of us of a certain age remember that glorious Summer of 1980 when word broke that John Lennon(and Yoko Ono) were really in a studio making a new album! We had had false alarms from 1975 through 1979 but when it was basically accepted as true, man, Lennonmania hit big! The first thing I saw in print was from good old Creem Magazine which had a section called "In The Studio" and it listed John Lennon and Yoko Ono with Cheap Trick. We know that was mostly true but sadly that was not what was originally released.
And once the album was released, at least in Chicago where I was close to, John's new songs were played all over A.M. and F.M. radio stations! "(Just Like) Starting Over" and "Woman" were on heavy rotation on A.M. Top 40 WLS while songs like the aforementioned "Woman, " "I'm Losing You," and "Watching The Wheels" were getting heavy FM play on WXRT-FM, "The LOOP" and WMET, the three most popular FM "album oriented" stations in Chicago. Even "Beautiful Boy" and "Clean-Up Time."
I don't care what the anti-Lennon crowd pop-off about claiming DF was tanking before John's death, that was not true in Chicago and we were getting heavy John Lennon airplay here up to John's murder(and it went off the charts afterwards) and it was heaven on earth for me and other Beatles fans. John was back but too damn short!
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Post by Steve Marinucci on Aug 21, 2015 11:43:54 GMT -5
It wasn't tanking, though it sure shot up after he died, naturally.
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Post by stavros on Aug 21, 2015 15:19:30 GMT -5
As to Double Fantasy, Joe mentioned "Lennonmania" in a post above and those of us of a certain age remember that glorious Summer of 1980 when word broke that John Lennon(and Yoko Ono) were really in a studio making a new album! ...... I don't care what the anti-Lennon crowd pop-off about claiming DF was tanking before John's death, that was not true in Chicago and we were getting heavy John Lennon airplay here up to John's murder(and it went off the charts afterwards) and it was heaven on earth for me and other Beatles fans. John was back but too damn short! Yep here in Britain John Lennon's new album was not received that well and sales began falling away pretty soon after release. They were different days back then and the music scene here was all over the place in 1980. But now I think some of John's finest songs are on that album. "Woman", "Watching the Wheels" along with "Losing You" are three of my favourite John solo tracks. It is so sad that we never got to hear this rejuvenated John Lennon carry on making music.
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Post by mikev on Aug 21, 2015 15:38:48 GMT -5
It wasn't tanking, though it sure shot up after he died, naturally. Yoko's songs were palatable, but it wasn't a John Lennon album, so it is hard to gauge the LP as a "stand=alone" Lennon album, and it's not fair to throw in the Milk and Honey Lennon songs, which were all technically unfinished.
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Post by debjorgo on Aug 21, 2015 18:22:07 GMT -5
It wasn't tanking, though it sure shot up after he died, naturally. Yoko's songs were palatable, but it wasn't a John Lennon album, so it is hard to gauge the LP as a "stand=alone" Lennon album, and it's not fair to throw in the Milk and Honey Lennon songs, which were all technically unfinished. I liked the Yoko songs on Double Fantasy better than the John songs. That flipped on Milk and Honey. The John songs are better on it. I liked John's Milk and Honey songs better than his Double Fantasy songs. I liked Yoko's Double Fantasy songs better than her Milk and Honey songs. I have to add though that Watching the Wheels is probably one of my top ten Lennon songs, Beatle songs included.
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Post by John S. Damm on Aug 22, 2015 4:01:02 GMT -5
It wasn't tanking, though it sure shot up after he died, naturally. No question about it. But DF was not a failure in John's lifetime as some critics and certain Beatle people themselves like to gloat. John's hugely anticipated Playboy interview did not hit the stands until December 6, 1980, just in time to help crank up the Christmas sales. A printed interview in a popular magazine meant a lot in 1980, pre-internet! Albums had chart lives back then and just look at Paul's BOTR, it is associated primarily with 1974 when it and the title song ruled the charts but it was released at the end of 1973 but didn't catch fire until the new year! We also don't know how DF would have done if John had in fact toured or released official videos. Sure, he may not have liked how he looked in August 1980(thus the rare video of this Thread) but he was looking great by December 1980 with even a Hamburg haircut and nothing would have stopped him from filming new videos. Who knows, a live SNL musical appearance could have pushed DF to the top. DF was certainly not done when John died, it and John were just getting started. Sadly this is all moot because John was murdered and DF shot to #1. But one of my pet peeves is the argument that John did not earn that #1 for DF or "Starting Over" either. John was just getting warmed up and the real promotion for DF was just starting in early December with the release of the Playboy interview(conducted back in August) and anticipated live appearances on TV and concerts. All that and much more taken away.
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